HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19870526Regular Meeting Aspen City Council May 26, 1987
CITIZEN COMMENTS 1
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS 3
ORDINANCE #17, SERIES OF 1987 - Refunding 1985 Sales Tax
Bonds 4
ORDINANCE #15, SERIES OF 1987 - Elimination of Vendors Fees 4
GMP APPEAL - 1001 Ute 5
LIQUOR LICENSE TRANSFER - Andre's 7
LIQUOR LICENSE TRANSFER - O'Leary's 7
GMP EXTENSION REQUEST - Hotel Aspen 7
COORS CLASSIC 8
RED ROOF INN REPORT 9
PISTON BULLEY AGREEMENT 9
ORDINANCE #21, SERIES OF 1987 - Self-Collection of Sales Tax 9
REEDER ANNEXATION 10
REPORT ON UNDERGROUNDING QUESTIONNAIRE 12
INCREASED APPROPRIATION FOR MAROLT BRIDGE 14
RESOLUTION #16, SERIES OF 1987 - Zoning Map Correction
Alpine Acres 15
SK I COMPANY MEETING 15
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Mayor Pro Tem Walls called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with
Councilmembers Collins, Fallin and Isaac present.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
1. Dan Arrow said he was disappointed Council took the stand
they did on the Aspen mountain improvements and that the gondola
issue was separate from the pricing issue. Arrow said although
this is a valid point, actions that indicate an overall
philosophy which are not beneficial to the entire community are
often more important than a specific issues, and there are
precedents. Arrow pointed out the federal government puts
sanctions on countries which have views that conflict with those
of the United States. The government also puts tariffs on
country when there is an overriding philosophical issue, the
welfare and benefit to the entire United State. Arrow said some
cities and counties deny application from rodeos because of
cruelty to animals. Arrow said there are plenty of precedents
for taking action on the use of the gondola during the summer.
Arrow stated government is legitimate only if it is an expression
of the people, and the people have expressed themselves in the
last few weeks. Land use issues should be judged not only on
their own merits but also on the general benefit to the
community. Arrow requested Council either re-open the issue of
recommending the gondola or come up with a resolution stating the
disagreement with the philosophy of the Skiing Company and ask
them to undo the damage that has been done and to meet with the
community in some forum. Arrow said the community wants to meet
with the Skiing Company and to work with them to make Aspen the
best skiing resort. Glenn Horn, planning office, told Council
the Commissioners met this morning on the Aspen mountain
improvements. There were many public comments on the pricing,
and there was not time to take action on the Skiing Company's
request. The meeting has been tabled until Friday, May 29th.
Councilman Isaac said Council discussed this and decided not to
send any comments. Councilman Isaac reported he sent his
comments to the Skiing Company. Councilman Isaac said this not
before the Council.
2. Richard Roth, co-chairman of ARC, urged Council to come up
with a sentiment of their feeling on the ski ticket price issue.
Rot h said Council individually discussed the pricing issue but
has not made a statement as a Council. Roth told Council over
2300 people have signed a petition asking for a meeting with the
Skiing Company. The Skiing Company has not announced a public
meeting with the community. Roth said Council is the elected
officials and they should come up with a collective view on the
pricing issue and not sit on their hands. Roth urged Council to
take some action on the pricing issue and an affordable, non-
validated ski pass.
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3. Laurie Adams requested clarity on the farmer's market issue
from the previous meeting. Ms. Adams told Council she thought
they had approval to do a farmer's market on private property and
at the Rio Grande. Ms. Adams said staff said the approval was
just for Saturday on the Rio Grande property. City Manager Bob
Anderson said his interpretation of Council's action was that the
Rio Grande was to be used on Saturdays for a farmer's market.
Anderson said Council did not direct a change in the
administrative policy in appropriate use of private property.
4. Glenn Horn, on behalf of 1010 Ute Avenue, told Council the
applicants have completed all documents f or final plat approval.
The applicants have requested to be on the June 8th agenda and to
be heard by the present Council before swearing in of the new
Council. Horn said he feels this would be a good idea because
this Council has more familiarity with the project. Horn pointed
out no one has gone through the city's subdivision process
starting in December and finishing in June.
5. David Herrington requested the Agate (Victorian Square) also
be heard on June 8th before the old Council. Glenn Horn told
Council the Agate application has not been certified as complete
by staff nor has it been referred out, and it is not ready to be
placed on a Council agenda. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said it is fine
to have these two items on the old Council agenda if they are
ready to be heard.
6. Hans Gramiger said the Council should take credit for the
Marolt bridge and should be there f or the dedication June 6th.
Gramiger said at that time Council should take a look at the
intersection of 7th Street with West Hopkins avenue. Gramiger
said it is necessary to widen that part of 7th street. Gramiger
said the city will be liable for a safe trail to the Marolt
bridge. Gramiger asked Council to lobby the Commissioners to
declare the width necessary for 7th street for legal traffic and
for a trail.
7. Jim Colombo urged Council to provide a public forum format
for discussions with the Skiing Company. Colombo said land use
issues should not be tabled because of this and the community
unsettlement should be resolved as soon as possible. Councilman
Isaac said he understood the Skiing Company has said they will
meet with members of the community. Councilman Isaac said
Council should say they are willing to meet with the Ski Company
and discuss the pricing decisions. Councilman Isaac said he
would like to keep the forum open.
Councilman Isaac moved to add to the agenda as VII (m) the
possibility of the Council meeting with the Ski Company in a
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public meeting to discuss the pricing; seconded by Councilwoman
Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
8. Laurie Adams asked if the issue of farmer's market is closed
or can the possibility of extending it to 2 or 3 days a week be
looked at. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said she would not favor using
the Rio Grande during the week as it is used f or parking. Ms.
Adams asked about using the Rio Grande for Sundays. Mayor Pro
Tem Walls said she would not object to Sundays. City Manager Bob
Anderson said the use on weekends could be adjusted as they go.
COUNCILMEMBBR COMMENTS
1. Councilwoman Fallin said she had a call from a homeowner on
Waters avenue who was upset about the commercial allocations
being reduced in the improvement district. The major concern is
that homeowners on Waters avenue are not getting the same degree
of upgrading as the rest of the district. Councilwoman Fallin
requested staff address that concern at the June 8th meeting.
2. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said Council voted down Ordinance #15 at
the last meeting. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said there are 3
Councilmembers in favor of the ordinance, and there was no public
opposition at the hearing to that ordinance. Mayor Pro Tem Walls
said Councilman Isaac requested Ordinance #15 be tabled until he
could be present. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said she voted on the
prevailing side to defeat the ordinance.
Mayor Pro Tem Walls moved to reconsider Ordinance #15, Series of
1987, Elimination of Vendor's fee; seconded by Councilwoman
Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
Mayor Pro Tem Wall s moved to add reconsideration of Ordinance
#15, Series of 1987, as item VI (c) ; seconded by Councilwoman
Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
3. Mayor Pro Tem Walls noted on the consent agenda is the Ruedi
Water and Power Authority requesting a $500 contribution to pay
for the analysis of the environmental impact statement,
biological study portion, f or the sale of Ruedi water that the
Bureau of Reclamation is planning. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said RWPA
hired a Wetlands Consultants of Boulder to analyze the study for
any possible mistakes. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said the consultants
did a very thorough job, and this shows that the conservation
f 1 ow requirement s that are part of the BOR sal a plan cannot be
supported on the basis of their benefit to endangered species and
they will automatically increase adverse impacts to Ruedi and the
Frying Pan. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said RWPA is getting support
from the Colorado River Water Conservation District. Mayor Pro
Tem Walls said the only way to f fight these sales is to f fight
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every change that is tried to be made. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said
the formation of the RWPA was brilliant and is a way to present a
united front. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said Council needs to continue
to support RWPA. Every jurisdiction in the valley belongs to
RWPA, except Garfield county.
ORDINANCE #-17 . -SERIES OF 19-87 - Refunding 1985 Sales Tax Bonds
Cindy Shafer, finance director, recommended Council table this
and the next ordinance to June 8th. Ms. Shafer said the market
may turn around in the next two weeks. Ms. Shafer said in the
refunding portion of this, the city is trying to save $200,000 in
the land fund to make the refunding feasible. Ms. Shafer said if
this cannot be accomplished, Ordinance #17 will be rewritten to
issuing the $600,000 bonds that are already authorized.
Councilman Collins moved to table Ordinances #17 and 18, Series
of 1987, to June 8; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in
favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #15-,----5~~2I-ES - OF--1987 - Elimination of Vendors Fees
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #15, Series of 1987,
as amended to be effective January 1, 1988; seconded by
Councilman Collins.
Councilman Isaac suggested using this revenue to give to the ARA
as a marketing fund. Cindy Shafer, finance director, said this
money is land fund money and can be used for any land fund
purpose. Staff projected receiving 558,000 for 1987. Councilman
Collins said it may be premature to vote for this now as it is
not going to go into effect for 6 months, and Council will be
discussing self-collection of sales tax later on the agenda.
Ms. Shafer said this is a separate issue. This is a fee the
retail person keeps when they fill out their sales tax return.
The other discussion item is whether the city finance department
should be collecting the tax from the retailer or whether the
state should collect the tax. Councilman Collins said self-
collection of sales tax may be better done jointly with the
county. Ms. Shafer said the county cannot collect their tax
right now. Councilman Isaac asked how many other cities have a
vendors fee. Ms. Shafer answered a number of cities have reduced
it or eliminated it completely.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Isaac, yes; Collins, no; Fallin,
yes; Mayor Pro Tem Walls, yes. Motion carried.
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GMP APPEAi, - 10 O1 Ute
Glenn Horn, planning off ice, reminded Council they heard an
appeal on this project several months ago and Council's decision
was to remand the scoring to P & Z to make sure there were no
abuses of discretion or violation of due process. Horn said
staff felt this process was fair for the applicant. Horn told
Council P & Z rescored the entire project, it was not limited to
any one issue, and one of the chances the applicant took when
this was rescored was that scores could change in either
direction. Horn told Council the first score was 31.67 and the
second scoring was 31.65. The minimum threshold for an
allocation is 31.8. This application did not meet the threshold
again, and the applicant has filed another appeal saying that a
P & Z commissioner abused his discretion because he changed
scores in certain categories. Horn presented to Council the
scoring from P & Z on both times. Horn told Council P & Z member
David White adjusted his scoring down in several categories.
Horn told Council it is staff's opinion when an applicant goes
through restoring, they are taking a chance on the scoring going
either way. Horn recommended Council uphold the scores awarded
by P & Z. The alternatives available are to alter P & Z's score,
as requested by the applicant; schedule a hearing to score the
project, or remand the project to P & Z again.
Ron Austin, representing the applicant, said when the last appeal
was heard, the applicant took issue with whether the Code allowed
for a remand and stated the only remedy was Council reviewing the
scores and determining whether there was an abuse of discretion
or lack of due process. Nonetheless, the applicants went along
with the remand procedure. Austin said the appeal process is
part of the code and is part of the system. Austin said when
this project was rescored, it was on all points in all areas.
The applicants had asked that the review be on the areas where
the controversial scores were in the first place. Austin t old
Council the P & Z was handed their first scores sheets, available
to determine what they had done in the first instance.
Austin said in the areas where the score was reduced by David
White, there was no new information presented at the restoring by
staff , by P & Z no r by the public. The only information
presented on storm drainage was why the applicants felt they
should have been scored higher because of offering to grant the
easement to complete the drainage system of f Aspen mountain.
Austin stated in the absence of some new information, given the
nature of the appeal with respect to specific scores, there can
be no basis for reducing scores in the areas where there were no
new issues raised. Austin said it may appear the applicant is
getting due process with this appeal, however, they may have
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gotten the wrath of a P & Z member for taking the benefit of a
code provision allowing an appeal.
Austin said the new scores, even if they are a mistake, are an
abuse of discretion because there is no new data. There is no
basis to downscore a category. Austin told Council one
commissioner kept this project from reaching the threshold, not
be decreasing scores in the areas that were appealed but by
decreasing scores in areas where there was little room for
scoring differently. Austin said this results in a lack of due
process. Austin urged Council to end the appeal process at this
meeting, to acknowledge the P & Z members can make mistakes, and
adjust the scores to the original scores of P & Z member David
White. Austin told Council this project has received conceptual
PUD approval with conditions. This is not a controversial
project. Austin reiterated the city code gives the applicant the
right to appeal.
Horn told Council the applicant presented arguments why the
scores should be the minimum. P & Z had a hearing. Austin said
there were 4 different categories in which there was no new
information detracting from the original scoring which received
lower scores. Councilman Collins said the first appeal, he
perceived a selectivity in how the applicant interpreted the
scores. Last time it was another P & Z member who was faulted
for scoring low in certain categories, and yet had a higher total
than the other commissioners. Councilman Collins said the fact
the two different scores come out so closely, indicate that the
process comes up with the same answer.
Austin said this appeal is based solely on the fact that one
commissioner by reducing his scores 1.75 points in areas where
there was not additional information and no objections raised is
an abuse of discretion. Austin said to reduce these scoring
areas without a rational basis is an abuse of discretion.
Councilman Collins pointed out one of the commissioners changed
the score in the other direction and increased his score.
Councilwoman Fallin said she favored remanding this to the P & Z
the first time because she felt the hearing might have been
rushed. Councilwoman Fallin said she is not willing to become
the P & Z and rescore this application. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said
when one goes back a second time for rescoring, it gives a chance
to score either up or way.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to deny the appeal by the applicant for
the 1001 project; seconded by Councilman Collins. All in favor,
motion carried.
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L IO UO~--L-I CEi~1 gE fi~A~SLF~ER - Andre ' s
Thi s i s a transfer f rom Compania Chinona S. A. to Andre U1 rych.
Ulrych told Council he will be operating the business, which will
be much the same with a new menu. Councilwoman Fallin said
Andre's has been known as a place where the underage can get in
and drink. Councilwoman Fallin urged Ulrych to be very strict
about this in his establishment. Ulrych told Council the 15
years he managed Andres, there was never a violation and he
always had someone stationed at the door.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to approved the transfer of the liquor
license to Andre; seconded by Councilman Collins. All in favor,
motion carried.
Ulrych told Council he would like permission to move the existing
bar over 6 feet to move open more dining area in the back.
Councilman Collins moved to approve the relocation of the bar at
Andres; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in f avor, motion
carried.
IQUOR L IC-ENSE TRAidSFE~t - 0' Leary' s
This is a liquor license transfer from O'Leary's Pub Inc. to High
Country Enterprises, Inc. owned by Rowland Krupp, Larry Mages,
Patricia Franks, Joshua Saslove, Donald Bouloukas, Maury Guttman
and Walter Stein. This business will be continued the same.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to approve the transfer of the
O'Leary's liquor license to High Country Enterprises; seconded by
Councilman Collins. All in favor, motion carried.
GMP EXTEiVSi-~T~- REQUEST - Hotel Aspen
Glenn Horn, planning office, reminded Council the Hotel As [pen
received a GMP allocation several years ago. The Code has a
provision if the building is not built within 33 months of the
conceptual submission, the allocation is lost. There is an
extension provision up to 180 days if the applicant has shown
diligence in trying to construct the units, and if it is
determined this is in the best interests of the community. Horn
told Council the applicant has been pursuing financing, which has
become more difficult to obtain because of changes in the lending
requirements. Horn told Council it is in the best interest of
the city to extend this allocation. The Hotel Aspen is a smaller
lodge, and it is important to maintain diversity in the
community. Staff is recommending 180 day extension in the GMP
allotment. Councilwoman Fallin asked w hen the next lodge
allocation is. Horn said it will be at the end of the year.
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Councilwoman Fallin asked if this extension would be up and if
f financing was not obtained, would the lodge rooms be available
for the quota. Horn said it will be very close, and the
decisions could be paired if Council chooses.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to grant a 180 days extension t o the
Hotel Aspen lodge; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor,
with the exception of Councilman Collins. Motion carried.
COORS OLA~S-I-C
Patsy Malone, personnel director, told Council the Mayor
requested this be tabled until the next Council meeting. The
Mayor has not been able to get in contact with Coors about
renegotiating the $10,000 fee down to $8,000. Ms. Malone told
Council Coors is still negotiating with ESPN for television
coverage; there will not be coverage by the major networks.
Mayor Pro Tem Walls said Coors wants to add another leg of the
race, starting in Aspen and ending in Vail. This will cost Aspen
another $2,000 as well as feeding and housing the racers for an
extra day. Ms. Malone told Council the beds and food would cost
another $6000 on top of the extra $2,000 fee. Ms. Malone said in
1986 there was $2,000 for paving in the budget, and paving will
not be needed this year.
Councilman Collins moved to table until the next meeting;
seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Councilman Isaac said he f eels the extra 52,000 is too much when
the town gets no benefit. Councilwoman Fallin said the city has
already allocated $25,000 and she is not willing to give the
Coors Classic any more money. This request would total over
531,000 and when you add in the money the lodging community loses
on the bed and further asks the restaurants for food, the
community is contributing between $75,000 and 5100,000 to put on
this event. Councilwoman Fallin said she does not feel this
expense is worth that to the community. This is one of the
busiest weekends of the summer, and the Coors Classic does not
bring that much business to Aspen. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said she
objects to Coors coming back at the last minute asking for more
money, time, beds and f ood. Dan Arrow, CCLC, said this event has
a great impact on the commercial core. There are gas station s
that have to close all day and lose business.
Councilmembers Isaac and Collins in favor; Councilwoman Fallin
and Mayor Pro Tem Walls opposed. Motion NOT carried.
Councilman Isaac moved to continue to f and the Coors Classic up
to $25,000 allocated; seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Walls. All in
favor, motion carried.
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Councilwoman Fallin moved to table the contract to June 8 for the
old Council's agenda; seconded by Councilman Collins. All in
favor, motion carried.
RED RE3E1F __ lt~N-- RE R@RT
City Manager Bob Anderson told Council he has met with Infotel in
order to give a progress report. Infotel has had a preliminary
structural report on the premises and has found one area that is
not up to what they would like. This will not stand in the way
of their deal. Infotel has proposals out to appraisers as part
of their financing. Anderson told Council Infotel is negotiating
with a sports psychologist to add into their partnership and to
expand their scope. City Attorney Taddune reported he is meeting
with Infotel this week. They are firm on their price. The
contract is contingent upon their ability to finance 70 percent
of the project. Councilman Collins said there should be some
deadline on the negotiations. Anderson said he feels it is to
both parties interest to get this completed as soon as possible.
Anderson said he hopes to have a contract for Council's review at
the next Council meeting. Taddune pointed out this will have to
be done by ordinance.
P I STAN SL~L~ E-i~-A~E~ME-N~
City Attorney Taddune told Council this is a revision to the
previously approved agreement. The reason for the revision is
that the Nordic Council is not an organization that can be used
in municipal financing for lease-purchase purposes. Taddune told
Council the new documents have not been presented to his office.
Councilman Collins moved to table this to June 8th for the new
Council; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, with the
exception of Councilman Isaac. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE --#-2.1;--SER3~--4F- -987 - Self -Collection of Sales Tax
Cindy Shafer, finance department, told Council the issue is
whether collection of sales tax by the city would pay for itself
or bring extra revenues. Ms. Shafer told Council the city could
do as good a job as the state depending on how much personnel
this would take and whether it would be cost effective. Ms.
Shafer said the other cities who collect sales ax themselves do
see additional revenues. However, Aspen can only collect the 1
percent city tax, and it is not obvious this would pay for
itself. Ms. Shafer told Council staff could commit one-half
person and break even financially but not get any better
information on the status of businesses. Ms. Shafer said the
city could assign a full time person to the collection effort
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which would yield more accurate information but perhaps not
additional revenues to cover the investment.
Ms. Shafer recommended if Council is interested in pursuing a
collection effort, they discuss this with the Commissioners. If
the County is also interested in self-collection, this could be
combined in one position. The problem is the state does not
allow counties to collect their own sales tax. Mayor Pro Tem
Wall s said combining this effort with the county seems to make
more sense. Councilwoman Fallin said there is the possibility if
a county wants to collect their own tax, they could pursue
legislation through the state. Council agreed to discuss this
with the county and indicated they are not interested in pursuing
self-collection of 1 percent sales tax.
RE EDER - AI~i3-RXAT-i6i~1
Assistant City Manager Mitchell told Council Lyle Reeder and Hans
Gramiger have brought an annexation to see if Council is
interested in going forward. Mitchell told Council the
applicants are interested in developing this property, which is
on the lower portion of Shadow mountain. Mitchell said if
Council chooses to annex this property, they will have some
control over the review of the development. Lyle Reeder
presented a map of the proposed parcels for annexation, including
the city-owned Little Cloud parcel, Hans Gramiger's Pride of
Aspen, and Reeder's lot 20. Reeder told Council both lot 20 and
the Pride of Aspen are entitled to lot splits because of their
size. Reeder told Council the adjoining property owner, John
Tucker, may also be interested in annexation.
Sunny Vann, representing Tucker, told Council his client owns
several mining claims and currently has a growth management
exemption for the construction of 4 single family dwelling units
on the property. Vann said with the nature of the site, it will
probably require this be developed in a PUD concept and will
require county review. Vann said one of the mining claims is
technically eligible for a lot split which would result in an
additional unit, raising the total development to 5 units. Vann
told Council Tucker is interested in annexation, and there are
benefits which could accrue to Tucker and to the city. Vann
pointed out that Tucker cannot do a lot split and be exempt from
growth management in the city. Vann said he is examining the
feasibility of obtaining the lot split approval in the county
prior to making a decision about proceeding with annexation.
Vann said if the site is too difficult to get approval in the
county, this would clear the way to annexation as the total
number of units in the city or county would be the same. Vann
told Council Tucker would like to develop the property to its
development potential, since these units are free and clear of
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growth management. Tucker would like to develop the units in a
way that is acceptable to the community. Vann said he would like
to know if there is interest in the city to review the applicants
under the city regulations as opposed to having them reviewed in
the county.
Mayor Pro Tem Walls asked what the advantages are of having this
property in the city. Mitchell said Council will have to deal
with the problems of development on these parcels. This is up
the slope on Shadow mountain and the neighborhood will be
concerned about view planes, road access. Mitchell said there is
a possibility of making land trades to preserve the base of
Shadow mountain if this property is annexed into the city. Mayor
Pro Tem Walls asked if this property is annexed, would there by
any right for further development in the city. Vann answered
said the build out potential is theoretically greater in the
county than the city. Vann explained the county has a lot split
provision which allows 2 units outside growth management, which
provision does not exist in the city. Vann said they would have
to compete in growth management in the city to achieve the same
results.
Reeder said some of the benefits to him in annexation would be
lower water rates, voting in city elections. The properties
would be subject to the city's real estate transfer tax.
Councilman Isaac said the county regulations better deal with
geologic and other hazards, and these sites have steep slopes and
avalanche danger. Councilman Isaac said the Council does not
have all the information and it is difficult to tell whether it
would be better to annex before or after development. City
Attorney Taddune said the petition was not sufficient and the
applicants withdrew the application. Taddune told Council one
component of the applicant was an annexation agreement, which may
address some concerns Council has. Taddune told Council this is
before them to give the applicants an indication whether they are
interested in annexation or not.
Glenn Horn said he feels it is in the city's best interest to see
these parcels are developed in a unified parcel as one planned
unit development. Horn stated there could be a signif icant
adverse impact on the city and Shadow mountain neighborhood if
these parcels are developed individually without common driveways
and common planning for all utilities. Horn said the city should
take a leadership role to see the site is planned as one site.
Horn said annexation may be the vehicle to do this. Councilman
Isaac said if the city can guarantee there will not be greater
density and can secure easements for the trails, and does not
disregard the concern for the geological hazards, annexation
makes sense.
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Mayor Pro Tem Walls said Council does not want to increase
density as a result of annexation. Councilwoman Fallin suggested
directing Mitchell proceed on annexation, work with the planning
office and come back to Council with recommendations. Mitchell
told Council staff could come up with a specific annexation
agreement containing any specific conditions. One of the issues
is the significance of the area and whether the city wants to
have any control over it. Mitchell pointed out the whole Shadow
mountain area has been identified as an annexation area.
Councilwoman Fallin asked why not do the entire area. Reeder
said in this case all the applicants would sign the petition and
there would be no one opposed to annexation. Reeder said this
area contains about 21 acres.
Horn told Council he feels everything possible should be done to
get Tucker to join in the annexation. Horn said the houses do
not make the most sense on the specific property sites. Mayor
Pro Tem Walls indicated Council is interested in going the next
ste p with the application. Mitchell said he will negotiate an
agreement and bring back specifics.
R-EP6RT _f}I~i-- L~I~~L~-R$iJ-I~H-I-~Jf~-~ESTIf~1iV-AIR~
Chuck Roth, engineering department, told Council staff mailed out
questionnaires to the property owners in the proposed improvement
district area to determine if the property owners were in f avor
of forming a district. Roth said the reason for forming a
district is that the city is burying the primary distributio n
lines but the secondary distributions were not part of the city's
plan and still need to be burred. Roth told Council 1400 of
these questionnaires were mailed out and staff received back
about 500 responses. Roth said the results seem to be in favor
of forming a district. Roth reported some residents were unhappy
with details of the questionnaire. Roth said one concern is
there are 1400 property owners but only 560 will have to bury
their service connection and why should 1400 people be voting on
this. Roth pointed out this is a neighborhood of all the people.
Roth said of the responses, 229 need to underground their service
and only 35 voted against doing a district. Roth said it appears
the city should proceed with a district.
Roth said one issue is the city going to charge people to do the
connection to change from overhead to underground and is the city
going to charge for wrecking out the overhead plant. Roth
recommended the city does not charge for these. Roth pointed out
the electric department may need to have a personnel increase to
do this work. Councilman Isaac asked if this could be paid f or
out of the electric bonds. Council agreed they would like this
paid for out of the original electric bonds.
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Councilwoman Fallin asked if a property owner has already done
the work and the utilities are underground, they will not have to
participate in the district. Roth said that is correct and
people that plan to do the undergrounding themselves by a certain
date, will not have to be in the district. Councilman Isaac
asked how it is determined who is in the district and who isn't.
Roth said if city proceeds with the formation of the district, a
list will be generated of all properties that have to have their
services undergrounded. The list will contain how much it will
cost f or this service. People will have a chance to remonstrate
at that point. City Attorney Taddune said there will be notices
to the individual property owners and in the newspapers. Roth
told Council the $27,000 includes notifying property owners,
preparation of the specifications and the contract documents for
the project.
Jan Collins told Council some property owners have come up with a
different picture of the answers to the questionnaires and
suggested an independent analysis. Ms. Collins told Council the
constituency is unanimous in its support for undergrounding. Ms.
Collins pointed out in the responses, 102 people were interested
in the district, 192 had already done undergrounding or will do
it at their own expense. Ms. Collins said the West Side
Improvement Association is anxious to get the undergrounding
completed but are concerned that all the pieces are not present.
Ms. Collins pointed out if only 200 people desire undergrounding,
perhaps a district is not needed. Ms. Collins asked how this
will be made an equitable situation with Holy Cross customers,
who are not getting the same service the city is going to give in
undergrounding secondary connections.
Roth told Council there is a policy difference between the city
and Holy Cross. Roth said the staff does not feel they have any
jurisdiction in asking Holy Cross to change their policy to match
that of the city's. Roth pointed out Holy Cross customers are
paying lower electric bills than city customers. Roth noted that
Holy Cross has buried conduit to the property line from the
transformers. Councilman Collins said the entire district may
cost between $229,000 and $500,000. The staff is asking for
527,000 plus already spent 59,000 which seems like a large
percent of the entire project. Roth said the appropriation
request tonight comes out of the underground electric bonds.
This will be backed into the district. Taddune said one of the
primary reasons for this district is to force the people who
either cannot or will not underground their secondary service.
Taddune said it is not known how many services the city will have
to take to underground nor how much it will cost. Taddune said
who will underwrite the administrative costs has been discussed.
It is presumed these will be spread out among the people whose
service has to be undergrounded. Taddune told Council the
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district format is the most available to force the property
owners to underground, because the city will do it for them.
Councilman Isaac asked if Banner is the right firm to do this
phase of the work. Roth said staff advertised for the design of
the primary system and received 8 proposals. Roth told Council
Banner seemed the best; they have done undergrounding in Snowmass
and Vail, they are local, and are familiar with what the city has
done in the past.
Councilman Collins moved to table this issue until the next
meeting f or more information. Councilman Coll ins said he would
like the 540 overhead lines identified. Councilman Collins said
the more the districts shrinks, the most cost per person to set
the district up rises. Mayor Pro Tem Walls said that cannot be
answered until this survey is done.
Councilman Isaac moved to proceed to proceed with the district,
to move that the 120 days requirement of Resolution 7, 1987, be
waived, and to approve the $27,700 contract with Banner; seconded
by Councilwoman Fallin.
Ms. Collins said when the city did the commercial core
undergrounding, the residential units were taken care of by the
city. Ms. Collins said there should be a resolution with Holy
Cross as a district cannot be formed when people are not getting
the same service . Budge B ingham pointed out there are a few
older people in the proposed district who may have f financial
hardship in dealing with this expense. Bingham requested the
city take this into consideration and mitigate any hardship of
this type. Roth said staff has discussed this but has made no
plans for hardship cases. Councilwoman Fallin suggested using
the guidelines the city uses for water customers for this
electric service. Councilwoman Fallin said the city's guidelines
exclude the value of the home in the total resources and use the
old age pension guidelines. Assistant City Manager Mitchell said
in the water department, the city charges the minimum.
Mitchell said staff would need some direction as to those people
who qualify, what type of adjustment i s needed, and will the city
pay for this. Anderson suggested deferring this assessment until
sale of the property. Council requested this be addressed in the
formation of the district.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Collins. Motion
carried.
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Chuck Roth, engineering department, reminded Council they had
awarded a construction contract for $271,000 and granted a
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$19,000 contingency fund. Roth told Council most of the
contingency fund has been used, related to poor soils found under
one of the pier f ootings. Roth told Council the city' s
restoration at the site is probably insufficient and more money
will need to be spent to bring this to an acceptable condition.
The entire appropriation for the bridge was $500,000 and there is
money to cover any existing problems. City Manager Bob Anderson
said the issue is, does staff have permission to use some of that
530,000 for additional landscaping. This money has already been
appropriated but not been approved in a specified contract.
Councilman Isaac moved that the city manager make sure that the
1 andscaping is accomplished as needed out of money already
appropriated by Council; seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Walls.
Roth told Council the original bid came in at 5315,000 and
Council awarded a contract of $271,000. The city whittled the
bid to get it to a reasonable amount, knowing that some items
would have to be put back in. Councilwoman Fallin asked what the
city promised the landowners in the area. Assistant City Manager
Mitchell said the city did promise a fair amount of landscaping.
Councilman Isaac said he would like staff to make sure the
project is done properly within the budget. Hans Gramiger said
the approach of south 7th street extended needs to be brought up
to standards to accommodate the additional traffic.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilwoman Fallin. Motion
carried.
RESOLUTIOi~i -#-lfr;---SE~IEB- OF 19-87 - Zoning Map Correction Alpine
Acres
Steve Burstein, planning office, told Council this is a small
subdivision along Matchless drive and when it was annexed into
the city it was zoned R-15; however, the official zoning map
states it is R-6. Burstein reminded Council they had initiated a
rezoning to R-6. The zoning map is in error and the city
attorney's office has recommended Council take an action to amend
the zoning map.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to approve Resolution #16, Series of
1987; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in f avor, motion
carried.
SK I COMPANY -ME E ~ ~iG
Councilman Isaac said the Skiing Company has said they were
willing to have a meeting with community leaders. Mayor Pro Tem
Walls said the Skiing Company is going to have a public meeting
within 3 weeks. Richard Roth told Council Jerry Blann has said
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the public meeting will be scheduled around Rlutznick's schedule.
It just seems like this is nebulous. Roth requested Council to
come up with a sense of resolution on these issues. Roth said
the petition has 2300 signatures on it. Councilman Collins said
the Council responded to this issue at their last meeting on the
Skiing Company's amendment for their mountain. Councilman
Collins said Council determined at that time that the two issues
were separate. Councilman Collins said outside Council meeting,
councilmembers have met or talked with various officials of the
Skiing Company. Councilman Collins suggested Council urge the
Skiing Company to look at the entire pricing questions as it is a
multi-layered community problem that needs to be addressed.
Mayor Pro Tem Walls said Council agenda item last meeting was
discussions of master plan amendments on Aspen mountain. The
city has no power over the Skiing Company or the Commissioners.
Mayor Pro Tem Walls said she did not want to leave the
Commissioners in a vacuum as to what the Council would like t o
see happen on Aspen Mountain. Councilwoman Fallin pointed out
the Commissioners, not the Skiing Company, were requestin g
comments from the Council. Councilwoman Fallin said she feels it
is in the interest of the Skiing Company to have a public
meeting, and in the very least meet with the Council and
Commissioners. Roth said individually Council has expressed an
opinion on the pricing issue but has not spoken collectively as a
group. This issue effects people on all levels of the community.
Councilman Isaac said the city should make a formal request to
the Skiing Company to discuss ski prices for next year and the
future. Councilman Isaac said this should be in a spirit of
cooperation and not attack. Roth said his committee ha s made
meaningful suggestions to the Skiing Company and would like to
get a resolution to that issue. Roth encouraged Council to take
a leadership role in this issue. The petition that has been
circulated requests a reasonable affordable pass with a daily
validation and a reconsideration of the $35 a day lift ticket and
that a public meeting be held to discuss these issues.
Councilman Isaac moved that the Mayor Pro Tem personally contact
the Skiing Company to discuss the $35 a day lift ticket and an
of f ordabl a skiing s ituation for local people; seconded by
Councilwoman Fallin on the condition this is meant in the spirit
of cooperation and is not tied to land use issues. All in favor,
motion carried.
Councilman Collins moved to approve the consent agenda; seconded
by Councilwoman Fallin. The consent agenda is Liquor License
Renewal - Chelsea's Terrace; Contribution to Ruedi Water & Power.
All in favor, motion carried.
City Attorney Taddune recommended further proceeding against the
two remaining defendants in the Castle Ridge case may be cost
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ineffective. Taddune told Council co-counsel does not feel there
are any assets that can be attached from Wilbur Carlson or from
Peco. Co-counsel is estimating proceeding with trial will cost
between 525,000 and $50,000. Mayor Pro Tem Walls asked if the
contractor had insurance. Councilman Collins said Colorado
contractors have to carry general liability and workman's
compensation. Taddune said the city obtained 5210,000 several
years ago through an insurance settlement. Taddune said there
has been much transition in city personnel and answers to some
significant questions have not been answered, one of which is why
wasn't a performance bond obtained. Taddune said the city ha s
collected on general liability on all defendants except Wilbur
Carlson and Peco.
Councilman Coll ins moved to adjourn at 8: 20 p.m. ; seconded by
Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
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Kathryn Koch, City Clerk