HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19870727Regular Meeting Aspen City Council July 27, 1987
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CITIZEN COMMENTS
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COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS
EAST MEADOW/ JUKAT I ANNEXATION 4
ORDINANCE #17, SERIES OF 1987 - Refunding 1985 Sales Tax
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Bonds
ORDINANCE #18, SERIES OF 1987 - Maroon Creek Hydropower
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Bonds
ASPEN MOUNTAIN LODGE DEVELOPMENT UPDATE 7
HISTORIC PRESERVATION INCENTIVES 8
REPORT ON HISTORIC PROGRAMS 11
REPORT ON FINANCIAL STATEMENT 11
BANKING SERVICES BID 13
LIQUOR LICENSE HEARING - Aspen Artists Gallery 14
LIQUOR LICENSE HEARING - Syzygy
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VENDOR'S LICENSE - Aspen Skiing Company 15
ASPEN MOUNTAIN LANDSLIDE 16
SKI TICKET PRICE RESOLUTION 19
REQUEST FOR FUNDS - Ice Garden Safety Improvements 22
ORDINANCE #31, SERIES OF 1987 - Rescinding Ordinance #15-
1987 22
ORDINANCE #32, SERIES OF 1987 - Flood Plain 22
REQUEST TO USE CITY PROPERTY - Aspen Auto Fest 23
CITY/COUNTY MANAGER CONTRACT 23
PITKIN COUNTY FAIR 23
CONSENT AGENDA 23
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Regular Meetinq Aspen City Council ~~1.Y 27. 1987
Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with
Councilmembers Fallin, Gassman, Isaac and Tuite present.
CITIZEN COMMENDS
1. Francis Whitaker told Council he was called down to the snow
dump site earlier this week by a concerned citizen. Whitaker
reminded Council he has spoken to them about the snow dump and
was promised something would be done about the site. Whitaker
said snow time is coming soon. Whitaker said Council has a
letter from him dated 1985 about the snow dump, and he has not
received an answer to this letter. Whitaker said Council should
be ashamed about what has been done to the Aspen One property on
the bank of the Roaring Fork river. This is a barren abused
piece of property, bought to protect the bank of the Roaring
Fork, not to be used as a dump. Whitaker pointed out Council is
the custodian of the property and must pass its custody on in
good faith. Council has an obligation to protect and preserve
its open space, and to respect and obey the letter of the law.
City Manager Bob Anderson said the staff has been studying this
question. Anderson said no matter what site the city uses, the
result will be to make the site barren. Anderson said the street
sweeper dumpings have been dumped on this property as a transfer
point. The city has built up the embankment so the sweepings do
not get into the river. Whitaker pointed out there is a Charter
amendment which requires no change in use of property purchased
with open space funds can be done without voter approval. The
city has taken it upon themselves to change the use without going
to the voters. Mayor Stirling said this was listed among the
highest goals of the Council, and it is a high priority to
complete the plan. In order to implement the Rio Grande plan,
the snow dump and impound lot have to be moved.
2. Denise Reich presented pictures of what is happening at the
Rio Grande. This is an exclusive dump for the city of Aspen.
Ms. Reich pointed out she has to dump her trash at the dump.
There is a bulldozer kept at the site permanently. Ms. Reich
said the snow gets shoved over the bank, the debris gets into the
river. Ms. Reich said she has called in the Army Corps of
Engineers and intends to have this stopped. Citizens are not
allowed to get away with what the city is getting away with.
3. Maggie DeWolfe said she is worried someone will get killed
on Bleeker street before the city gets a traffic study done. Ms.
DeWolfe said the traffic on that street is unbelievable and cars
go straight down the street without stopping. This is a very
dangerous situation. Ms. DeWolfe urged the city to hurry with
the traffic study and also not to install any more stop signs as
no one stops at them. Elyse Elliott, engineering department,
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said the staff is doing traffic counts in this area to start the
study.
4. Sally Roach requested there be a sign at Mill and Main
explaining the walk lights. The pedestrians situation has become
ridiculous. Mayor Stirling said the Council is considering doing
away with the all pedestrian cycle at this intersection. City
Manager Bob Anderson pointed out at the last transportation work
session, it was recommended to change this light ~ hasyindicated
city engineer, told Council the state departmen
this is one of the last pedestrian walk lights in the district,
and they are inclined at eliminate it. Council requested staff
address this as soon as possible.
5. Linda Summers said there is a problem at Bleeker and Sixth
with no stop sign, and requested a stop sign until the study is
done. Traffic comes off highway 82 and goes right through the
intersection. Council requested staff look at this intersection.
6. Pete Stone brought up the demolition of two houses on east
Hyman owned by Dick Butera. Butera has said he will donate them
to Ruth Stone if a place can be found to move them. Stone said
he has been looking for a place to move these before they are
torn down. Butera will donate them to the city if these can be
moved. They could be used for day care, employee housing. Stone
urged Council to try and find a place for these houses before
they are demolished. City Manager Bob Anderson said staff has
been working on this, and this is a not a community that has a
lot of available sites. Assistant City Manager Mitchell pointed
out staff has been looking at sites on Puppy Smith street and
the Koch lumber property. Mary Martin suggested these houses be
stored on the Marolt property. Council requested staff find out
the demolition time line on these structures.
7. Wainwright Dawson said Wink Jaffee may be able to help with
space for the day care center. Dawson said it is very difficult
for citizens to deal with the government, between city, county,
state agencies. Dawson pointed out citizens have to go through a
lot to get Council's attention, and priority of individual rights
is what government is about.
Ms. Reich requested that the snow dump be moved and that the city
take out the temporary bank at the art museum, and that the city
abide by the same laws that the citizens have to abide by.
8. Dan Arrow said he feels the construction in front of the Ute
City Banque at the height of the season in inappropriate.
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COUNCILMEMBE~ -COMMEi~TS
1. Mayor Stirling introduced Linda McCausland, head of the
Aspen Wildflower beautification committee. Ms. McCausland said
she has spent some time at the natural wildflower preserve in
Texas. Ms. McCausland said she would like to start with Bug sy
Barnard park and the bicycle paths around the golf course. Ms.
McCausland has met with the parks department. The city will be
abl e to get f ire permits and help f rom the volunteer f ire
department to get all the weeds out. This is a community
project, and different groups are buying seeds. This is totally
legal as they are only doing surface seeding. Ms. McCausland
told Council she has been after some federal funds. The new
highway bill says 1/4th of 1 percent of landscaping money given
to the state has to go to wildflowers.
2. Mayor Stirling pointed out the consent agenda is to be
passed en masse unless a Councilmember has an objection to point
to make about an item on the consent agenda. Mayor Stirling
explained this is an attempt to start to streamline the agenda.
3. Mayor Stirling said he is meeting with the Mayor of Snow-
mass, and Chairman of the County Commissioners to discuss the
citizens to be appointed to the Ski Company advisory committee.
Mayor Stirling said any citizens who would like to be on t his
committee, should let him know. This committee will be appointed
by August.
4. Mayor Stirling said he has received complaints about the
amount of gravel on the bike paths, particularly east of t own.
Mayor Stirling asked staff to see if these are on a regular
maintenance program.
5. Mayor Stirling told Council he has attended the Colorado
Association of Ski Towns legislative tour in Steamboat Springs
and they discussed all types of issues.
7. Mayor Stirling suggested Council address immediate action
regarding the Rio Grande property and the items that have bee n
brought to Council's attention in the last number of years.
Mayor Stirling requested a plan of action on the August 10th
agenda. Councilman Isaac suggested it may be more appropriate to
deal with the Rio Grande and snow dump at a work session.
Council recommended continuing this meeting to Tuesday, July 28,
1987, at 6:30 p.m.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to continue the meeting to 6:30 p.m.
Tuesday, July 28; seconded by Mayor Stirling. All in favor,
motion carried.
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8. Councilman Tuite said at almost every intersection in town,
the vehicles have been taking the right of way. Councilman
Tuite pointed out pedestrians do have the right-of -way, and would
like to discuss enforcement of this with the police department.
Councilman Tuite said he would 1 ike the community to be more
aware of this also.
9. Councilwoman Fallin said at Aspen and Durant, one of the
city's new light poles has a multiple of signs on it, including
one that says "Triple A approved". Councilwoman Fallin said this
is inappropriate and should be taken down.
10. Councilwoman Fallin said there are buses parked at the Rio
Grande and asked who gave them permission.
11. Councilwoman Fallin said at North Galena, there are supposed
to be three spaces f or public parking. Councilwoman Fallin said
she does not feel there should be any police cars parked there.
There should be parking for people to go to the courthouse; the
law enforcement cars are parking where the public is supposed to
be able to park.
12. Councilwoman Fallin said last summer Council stated they did
not want construction happening in the height of the season. The
city is back at it again with the streets all torn up. Council-
woman Fallin reiterated Council wants this done in spring or
fall.
13. Councilman Gassman said the city will be having snow very
soon. Councilman Gassman previously brought up cleaning of the
streets in the winter , and would 1 ike to have Council address
this on an agenda as soon as possible.
EAST -MEADO~ir~f ~~U~~-~.~---ANI~EXATiflN
Assistant City Manager Mitchell reminded Council they have
adopted a resolution and set this date as a public hearing to
review the findings to indicate this area meets all the statutory
requirements for annexation. Council will see the ordinance for
annexation and zoning at their next meeting.
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing.
Vicki Fuller, resident, said the reason East Meadow owners signed
the annexation petition is some people w ould like to add some
floor area to their buildings. Ms. Fuller said they would like
the floor area ratio in R-15 to remain the same as it is and not
be changed later on. Ms. Fuller said some owners want to be
condominiumized, which is not allowed in the county. Ms. Fuller
said the residents would like a sign on their road, as well as
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some road improvements. Mayor Stirling said these can be
readdressed at the public hearing. Mitchell pointed out P & Z
has already reviewed this annexation and proposed zoning for it.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct staff to prepare first reading of
an ordinance for annexation of Jukati/East Meadow and zoning
ordinance; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Councilman Isaac said he has problems with paving the streets in
this area. Mitchell said this is a private road, and the home
owners would have to convince Council to take over the road.
Because of the width of the road and because it is a dead end,
the streets department recommends against making t his a public
right-of-way. It is currently privately maintained.
All in favor, motion carried.
ORD3I~fiAN-CE ~#-r7-; -ERRIRS OF --1987 - Refunding 1985 Sales Tax Bonds
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. Cindy Shafer, f finance
director, told Council this will save the city 5293,000 in
present value savings over the next two years. Ms. Shafer told
Council the new issuance is $9,050,000, which is a refunding and
issuance of previously authorized bonds of 5600,000.
Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #17, Series of 1987,
as amended; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Councilman Isaac asked if this is increasing the indebtedness of
the city by more than the 5600,000. Ms. Shafer said this is
refunding the bonds that mature from 1994 and is not increasing
the indebtedness. Steve Jeffers, Kirchner/Moore, said this is
refinancing 57,265,000 bonds. Jeffers said the average rate of
the bonds being refunded is 8.9 percent. Jeffers told Council
they cannot buy government securities to yield 8.9 percent so
they have to buy more principle yielding less than 8.9 percent to
pay off the old 57,300,000 at 8.9 percent. A large portion of
the excess goes to buy more government bonds at a lesser rate in
the escrow. Part of the increase in principle in f or issuance
cost, including insurance premium, underwriters' discount, bond
attorney fees.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Tuite, yes; Gassman, yes; Fallin,
yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
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ORDI-itl-AidC~-#~-8~;- -B~ER-I-E~- OF 19$7 - Maroon Creek Hydropower Bonds
Cindy Shafer , f finance director, told Council the size of this
bond issue is $525,000. It is easier administratively and saves
some money to do this in conjunction with the previous issue.
Ms. Shafer told Council the average interest rate on these bonds
is higher than the sales tax bonds, and is 6.93 percent. This
results in an annual debt service payment of less than $60,000,
and is currently anticipated in the long range plans of the
electric fund. Ms. Shafer said all proceeds will be used for the
construction of the Maroon Creek hydro dam, except for issuing
costs.
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. There were no com-
ments. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #18, Series of 1987,
as amended, on second reading; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Councilman Isaac asked if these bonds are backed by general
obligation. Ms. Shafer answered yes, but g.o. utility bonds do
not have to go to a vote of the people. Ms. Shafer said the
intention is that these will be paid from electric f and revenues.
There is the potential to pay for these out of property taxes.
Councilman Isaac said the cash balance in the electric fund is
diminishing and asked if there would be a problem paying the
bonds off. Ms. Shafer answered the electric rates are an issue
to be discussed at budget time. Councilman Isaac asked if the
city will have to raise electric rates to pay off these bonds.
Ms. Shafer said not specifically to pay off this bond as the
assumption was this project will pay for itself over time.
Mayor Stirling said one of the most critical things about this
project is the protection of water rights. Mayor Stirling said
this project will only give the city 3 to 5 percent of the
electric power, and almost half of the city's energy will come
from Ruedi and Maroon Creek. Councilman Isaac said he feels the
value of this project is questionable, and it will put stress on
the electric fund. Councilman Isaac said he feels there are
other ways these water rights can be used at less expense to the
taxpayers. Councilman Tuite said with cheap electric rates right
now, these are expensive projects; however, electricity does not
stay cheap and at that time these bonds will pay for themselves.
Mayor Stirling said any step towards self-sufficiency is sig-
nificant.
Roll call vote; Council members Gassman, yes; Fallin, yes; Isaac,
no; Tuite, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
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AS-REi~_~--MOtJ-i'~A~ __I,~D~-~` -~7E~FI, OPNfEI~T UPDA~F
City Attorney Taddune submitted to Council a copy of the December
1985 approved PUD agreement along with memoranda explaining the
various terms and conditions of the agreement. The memorandum
has been submitted to staff to comment on those provisions of the
agreement that need to be met. However, this review may be
premature because this property is in complicated legal proceed-
ings and the ownership may be solved August 4th when Mohamed
Hadid will become the owner of the site and the project. Taddune
said the GMP approvals have been extended to September 18, 1987.
Mohamed Hadid, John Sarpa, vice president of Hadid Development
and Ian Floyd-Jones, Ritz-Carlton, were present. Sarpa told
Council this company is a major developer in the Washington D.C.
area with extensive experience and interaction .with the govern-
ments there. Sarpa pointed out they have only been involved in
this project for 2 months and do not yet own the property.
Hadid told Council he is 100 percent involved in the design
aspects of his projects. Hadid stated until he has deeds to
these properties, he cannot tell Council what he plans to do with
them. Hadid said he has a management agreement with Ritz-Carlton
to be a co-developer f or the hotel property.
Mayor Stirling asked what the sequence of events f or the proper-
ties will be. Hadid said he will look at the hotel plans first,
the number of keys, the size of the conference facility. Hadid
said he plans to give the Continental Inn a facelift and to erase
the buildings across from the Continental f or two small parks and
an ice rink. Hadid said he is willing to listen to suggestions
for the property right across from the Continental Inn. They are
planning to landscape the area to the west of the Continental.
Hadid said he is examining the approved plans f or the hotel and
talking to people to understand the needs of the community.
Ian Floyd-Jones, Ritz Carlton, said they were the selected hotel
operators under the previous owner and much of the research has
determined that Aspen is a destination Ritz felt they could be
successful in. Floyd-Jones told Council Ritz and Hadid are
partners in a project in Washington D.C. area. Floyd-Jones said
Ritz has several resort developments, and is a very decentralized
company. One of the partners will make sure the hotel is run the
way the community feels it should be run. Floyd-Jones said Ritz
is looking f orward to becoming a participatory citize n in the
continued success of Aspen.
Taddune noted if there are substantial revisions to the project,
the revised request will come to Council as in the land use
process. Councilman Isaac said the GMP extension will run out on
September 18, and asked what the plans of the applicant will be
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regarding that date. Hadid told Council he has a planning
meeting scheduled for early August. Hadid said at this point, he
does not know if an extension will be needed. Floyd-Jones said
if they apply for an extension, it will be because the operators
feel there are elements of the plan that need to be changed in
order to be successful. Floyd-Jones told Council patterns in
the industry can change in 2 years since the original approval.
Floyd-Jones said they would want to take advantage of addressing
those changes to give the applicant and the city a better
project.
Mayor Stirling said the city and the applicant spent two years
going through the approval process, and the plan was the best the
community was able to come up with. The plan was scaled down
from its original application. Mayor Stirling said there is no
intention on Council's part in trying to take the approvals away;
however, there is a general concern that there have been changes
in the community in 2 years as well as changes in the resort
industry. Mayor Stirling asked if it is the applicant's inten-
tion hire locally. Hadid said it is and he already has hired
locally.
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Steve Burstein, planning office, told Council he would 1 ike some
direction on what incentives and options they would be interested
in. Burstein said the problem is the fear that demolition or
inappropriate alternations are diminishing Aspen's historic
character, and there are historic structures without protection
or without incentives to make it more desirable to have these
structures designation. Burstein told Council there are 54
residential structures designated historic; 43 of these struc -
tures are in the R-6 zone. There are 154 undesignated structures
with 85 of these being in the 3 to 5 scores. Burstein said the
focus is a voluntary program to get these structures involved in
the historic designation program.
Burstein said factors leading to the erosion of Aspen's historic
resources include market values under present conditions that
make it so there is a higher return by building a larger struc-
ture; the age of the structures, and that the structures are
small. Burstein reminded Council there was a joint meeting in
February of P & Z, HPC and Council, at which time it was decided
not to do an overlay but to pursue voluntary designation.
Burstein reminded Council structures that are scored 4 and 5 have
demolition review under Ordinance #11. Burstein said it is
important to offer some incentives other than demolition to these
structures.
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Burstein said some of the objectives are compatibility with the
zoning districts. The intent of the R-6 zone is to maintain the
neighborhood as an attractive residential area. The second
consideration is land use patterns and whether incentives are
consistent with these. R-6 is primarily single family and
duplexes; RMF is multi-family with some L-3 lodges. Burstein
pointed out the proximity of residential to commercial areas is
quite close.
The historic preservation plan element has a number of objec-
tives, including discouraging demolition, encouraging authentic
rest oration and compatible alterations, enhancing resort ameni-
ties. Burstein told Council he has talked to other communities
to see if incentive programs are working there. Council needs to
evaluate if it is worthwhile for P & Z, HPC, and staff to become
very involved in this program. The last point is at what level
is the Council willing to finance some incentives. Council
agreed with the list of objectives. Mayor Stirling said rather
than an amenity, historic restoration is the heart and sole of
the community and is fundamental to what is distinctive about
Aspen. Councilwoman Fallin said the city should do everything
they can to encourage restoration of a true Victorian and should
try and discourage phony Victorians, not to give incentives for
these type of buildings. Mary Martin pointed out that Council
refused the overlay district, which would have protected the
entire town. The Council has to look very carefully at giving
some leeway to owners of historic buildings.
Burstein said the largest area of land use incentives are the
proposed conditional uses in a residential zone. Burstein told
Council a survey was sent to homeowners in the west end to get
some feedback on how the neighbors felt about the incentives,
including conditional uses. Burstein pointed out all of the
conditional uses have more people opposed than supporting. P & Z
felt strongly about the conditional uses. There is a public
hearing for all conditional uses, including a notice requirement.
These approvals are subject to conditions to further define the
parameters of the project. Burstein said another way to further
define the project are to make the uses accessory only; to
further add prescriptive uses, like number of rooms or hours of
operation; the third option is to add to the review criteria of
conditional uses. Burstein told Council in the code revision,
staff is considering a more detailed review criteria.
Burstein said the first conditional use is bed and breakfast, and
the use is envisioned as homey and small. Some of the positive
aspects of this use are it is quasi-residential and not terribly
different from a short-term rental situation. There is a feeling
that authenticity of restoration is a positive aspect. Bed and
breakfast is a profitable operation. Councilman Gassman said he
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has problems with land use incentives. Councilman Gassman said
this is asking someone to designate a structure for the benefit
of the community. Councilman Gassman said it seems in this that
the neighbors are paying, rather than the community as a whole.
Councilman Gassman said in the land use incentives, this is
rezoning on a very small one house basis and it does not seem
right.
Mayor Stirling said the issue is whether this is or is not a
benefit to the entire community. If it is a benefit to the
entire community, it is up to the Council to find ways to make
these incentives work. Councilman Gassman said if this is a
benefit to the entire community, then the entire community should
pay instead of just one small area. Councilman Gassman said he
likes the financial incentives better for this reason. Council-
woman Fallin agreed with Gassman's point, and said that condi-
tional uses can be approved or denied based on one's neighbors.
Councilwoman Fallin said if bed and breakfast is to be a use, it
should be a primary use. Councilwoman Fallin said she f eels 12
bedrooms is entirely too large.
Councilman Isaac stated he is not in favor of pursing the land
use incentives not only for the reasons listed but also because
this is moving away from the tourists services like transporta-
tion, skiing and restaurants, and away from the commercial core.
Councilman Isaac said this will be creating traffic where it is
not wanted; there is not adequate parking and no adequate public
transportation. Councilman Tuite said when trying to save the
neighborhood and historic character, if the immediate area is
willing to live with some uses to save the neighborhood, then the
city should not throw out any particular incentive.
Mayor Stirling said the P & Z spent a lot of work on these
incentives. Mayor Stirling pointed out there are already short
term and boarding house-type uses, and diversity of uses is a
positive thing. Welton Anderson, chairman P & Z, strongly urged
Council not to throw out the land use incentives. Anderson
pointed out it is not known what effect these will have, and if
it is perceived to be a negative effect now and these uses are
thrown out, no one will know about the uses. Anderson said the
city can reassess these uses in 2 years, and the uses can be
changed. Anderson noted the present highest and best use f or
this land is not a little Victorian house. Anderson questioned
what price is higher for the neighbors to pay; keeping a Vic-
torian house and allowing a modest expansion versus a brand new,
setback to setback house. Anderson said the city has got to be
adventurous and go in with as many reasons as possible why
someone would want to save a Victorian house. Mayor Stirling
encouraged the Council to continue to look at these incentives
and to have a work session. Mary Martin suggested owners of
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houses scored 4 or 5 be invited to the meeting to talk about
incentives. If the owners of these houses do not want these
incentives, why bother with them.
Mayor Stirling moved to continue the historic preservation
incentive discussion to August 10, 1987; seconded by Councilman
Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
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Councilman Isaac asked what is happening with the Colorado
Historic Program and the grant application. Steve Burstein,
planning office, said staff is waiting to hear. Councilman
Gassman said he feels there is a very human tendency to turn
guidelines into regulations and he would resist that. Councilman
Gassman pointed out the spirit when the old buildings was laissez
faire, and asked staff to remember that as part of the spirit
when writing the guidelines. Burstein told Council he intends to
write a clear introduction to explain these are guidelines and
not regulatory. The committee will implement these on a case by
case basis where they fit.
Sally Roach said it is important to keep in mind that these are
guidelines only. Ms. Roach told Council one applicant has
already been subjected to the guidelines and told that is the way
they were to build their structure. Ms. Roach said she is
concerned in seeing disincentives already being documented in the
financial incentives memorandum. Steve Whipple said the guide-
lines in Redstone were presented as suggestions only and they
have worked effectively. Whipple said he feels it would be a
mistake to shut the door on the diversity that has occurred.
Mayor Stirling said the guidelines do not become law.
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Cindy Shafer, finance director, introduced Jerry Alger, partner
of Grant Thornton who has done the city's audit for 3 years. Ms.
Shafer said the city is required by the Charter to have an audit
annually to be done by a registered public accountant with
experience in municipal accounting. Grant Thornton has con-
siderable experience in municipal accounting and also audits
Pitkin county. Ms. Shafer told Council 1985 was the third year
the city was awarded a certificate of achievement for excellence
in financial reporting. Ms. Shafer stated the preparation of the
1986 statement was one of the most effective and efficient audits
the city has been through. Ms. Shafer said this is attributable
to experience of the city's staff and the auditors. The internal
control report addresses any concerns the auditors come across.
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Jerry Alger told Council in 1986 there was a downturn in the
revenue structure of the city for the governmental fund. There
is an excellent commentary in Ms. Shafer's letter. Alger said
expenditures were up in capital outlay, but overall the city came
out well for the year. There were some reductions in fund
balance, but they were all controllable. The large one was in
special revenue in the land acquisitions, which is a planned
expenditure. Alger told Council in the budget versus actual
numbers, the overall controls are very good. The balance sheet
looks similar to the prior year, which shows financial stability
for the city. Overall the city shows a good position in the
balance sheet. Alger said the enterprise funds get some sub-
sidies from transfer but are in pretty healthy shape. Alger
cautioned Council to watch the water funds.
Mayor Stirling asked about the enterprise fund for the ice rink,
which is always subsidized, and if Alger wold recommend melding
it into the general fund. Alger said the classic definition of
enterprise is that the user charges are intended to support the
operations. Alger said if that criteria is not met, there is the
possibility to put that fund into the general fund. Alger said
by doing that, the ice rink would get melted into a lot larger
numbers and the city could lose sight of what is happening in
that fund. Alger said from an accounting standpoint, the ice
rink fund could be put into the general fund; however, the
information should be kept on a separate basis. Alger told
Council there are no instances of non-compliance with federal
revenue sharing compliance.
Alger pointed out the internal controls and client advisory
comments are repeated f rom last year and contain the current
status. Alger told Council in all but one case these have been
implemented and complimented the city. Alger said the one is the
internal audit function; the auditors have recommended the city
consider this f unction. Alger said this position is not common
in every city but it could serve a good purpose. Alger suggested
the city look at this from the standpoint of cost versus jus-
tification. Alger suggested looking at exploring this with the
county. Ms. Shafer told Council when the staff received this
comment last year they determined it was an area to review when
the management audit was done. The management audit was not
done, and staff did not look at a cost benefit analysis of that
position. This should be reconsidered at budget time and should
be a f unction independent of the finance department. Anderson
agreed this should be looked at in terms of the city/county
question. Councilman Tuite agreed strongly on a central purchas-
ing position for the city and county to take advantage of bulk
purchases. This should be worked on in the future for cost
savings and efficiency. Alger said the controls can be monitored
more closely when there is one system that everybody follows.
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Wainwright Dawson said it is a logical move of the auditors to
see how the city and county finance departments could be inte-
grated and what the priorities should be and to make recommenda-
tions. Councilman Isaac asked if the auditors have seen any
where the city could affect greater savings. Alger said he would
have to give that some thought. Mary Martin asked what balance
the city will end up with. Ms. Shafer said compared to budget in
the general fund, there is about $50,000 worth of savings from
what was anticipated. The fund balance on a cash basis is
$1,300,000.
Councilman Isaac moved to accept
annual financial report for the
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
the city of Aspen comprehensive
year ending Decembe r 31 , 19 86 ;
All in favor, motion carried.
Ms. Shafer told Council the last time the city bid for auditing
services, a three year term was anticipated. Ms. Shafer sug-
gested Council extend the audit with Grant Thornton for another 2
o r 3 years , and then go out f or bids again. City Manage r Bob
Anderson told Council 5 years with one auditor is an appropriate
time, and the audit should be re-bid at that time.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to direct staff to negotiate with Grant
Thornton for auditing services for years 1987 and 1988 audits;
seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
B-AN~ I NG---S`ER~~E:~i -~i~
Cindy Shafer , f finance director, told Council the city has had
their banking services performed by the Bank of Aspe n for the
past several years. Ms. Shafer said the city does not currently
have a contract with the bank. The city went through a bid
process in 1982 and accepted requests for proposals; a formal
contract was never signed. Ms. Shafer recommended the city go
through another request for proposal process and accept bids.
Ms. Shafer said the city staff is not dissatisfied with the Bank
of Aspen, but it is time to review the relationship and to get a
signed contract. Ms. Shafer proposed Council set up a public
committee to assist the staff in developing a proposal. Mayor
Stirling asked why this cannot be done at staff level. Ms.
Shafer said it can be done at staf f level; however, when the
audit was bid, outside citizens were involved and there may be
some advantage to involving people who have more experience in
dealing with banks. Mayor Stirling said the city has to be very
careful in a committee like this because of people being involved
in the local banks. Mayor Stirling said he would prefer not to
use a committee and have the recommendations come f rom the staf f
level. Councilmembers Isaac and Fallin agreed.
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ago. Walla recommended a short term moratorium on the issuance
of new licenses, not transfers. Walla said the restaurant
association would like some procedures implemented so that
applicants would know what to expect. Walla suggested Council
look at redefining the neighborhood, rather than the entire city
limits. Walla said the burden has to be put on the applicant to
prove that the needs of the neighborhood have not been met.
Councilman Isaac pointed out there is not a limit on other types
of businesses. Walla said the state of Colorado has decided it
is within Council's authority to examine liquor licenses. Walla
pointed out restaurants are different from other businesses
because of the capital involvement. Walla said the free market
theory, which Councils have stuck to, has to have the profit
incentiv e in it also.
Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilman Isaac moved that based on the evidence presented at a
public hearing held July 27, 1987, relating to the application of
Syzygy Ltd. , for a three-way liquor license, the Council finds
that the needs of the community have not been met and that the
1 icense as applied for is hereby granted; seconded by Council-
woman Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
Council scheduled a work session for Monday, August 31, 1987,
with the restaurant association to discuss the issue of the
number of liquor licenses.
~Dp~-g--L~~N-gE - Aspen Skiing Company
Alan Richman, planning director, said this is a request to renew
the vendor's license for the kiosk that sits on Dean street.
Richman also requested authorization for him to amend the SPA
plan to reflect the new location for the kiosk. The third
request is for authorization to amend the SPA plan for location
of the kiosk on Hunter street. Richman told Council he is not
supporting the requested location on Hunter street. Richman
reminded Council they granted a vendor' s 1 icense to the Aspen
Skiing Company in April 1986. This vendor's license allows the
Skiing Company to sell tickets out of the kiosk on Dean street,
which is a public right-of -way. Richman told Council the city
received a renewal request f or this vendor' s 1 icense in April .
This request has not come to Council until July because staff has
been working with the Skiing Company as well as adjacent property
owners in an attempt to resolve the issues surrounding this
kiosk. Richman passed out some photographs illustrating some
problems the kiosk has caused for residents of North of Nell.
Richman noted these photographs demonstrate several condominium
owners have the kiosk right in their view towards the mountain.
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Mayor Stirling asked if Richman feels under the specially planned
agreement, that he has the authority to deal with both reloca-
tions. Richman told Council it is clear from the Code he has
the authority to deal with relocations. Mayor Stirling said the
only action required of Council is whether they are willing to
renew the vendor's license. Mayor Stirling asked Council if they
wanted to review the locations for the kiosks. Councilman
Gassman agreed with the interpretation of the SPA agreement.
Councilman Gassman pointed out Council's clearest goal was
faster, more efficient Council meetings. Councilman Gassman read
from the vendor's agreement, "Vendor may position kiosk of such
design and such location as approved in writing by the city
manager". Councilman Gassman said there is no reason for Council
to discuss this.
Councilwoman Fall in moved to renew the Aspen Skiing Company's
request for a vendor' s license; seconded by Councilman Gassman.
Mayor Stirling said the vendor's license term is one year. Bill
Kane, representing the applicant, said ideally they would like a
much longer term but that is required by Code. Council agreed
they have granted the authority to Richman for the location of
the kiosk. Richman said when there is controversy on something
he has the authority to sign off on, he likes to advise the
Council to make certain they agree. Richman told Council there
is a lot of controversy about the kiosk on Hunter street, and
staff is not able to sign off on a location for the kiosk. There
is general agreement on the Dean street kiosk but there is not
specific agreement. Richman told Council he, the city engineer
and the applicant are in agreement, but the city manager is not.
Councilman Gassman said this is a design problem, and giving the
authority to the design arm of the city is entirely appropriate.
Mayor Stirling pointed out one of the kiosks is in the public
right-of-way. Joe Edwards disagreed that the authority is with
the planning director, according to the specially planned
agreement. City Attorney Taddune pointed out the emphasis is on
the vending agreement, not the planning aspect. Richman told
Council the argument has been made there are technical design
considerations which were not taken into account at the time of
the original SPA approval. It is clear that the Dean Street
kiosk does not work in its present location and it needs to be
moved for technical reasons.
AS-RE-i~fi ID£
Mayor Stirling said the mudslide occurred in June 1984, and the
city committed initially to money. Mayor Stirling asked how much
has been spent to date. Jay Hammond, city engineer, said the
city has spent about 515,000. Both the county and Skiing Company
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have participated. Hammond told Council this proposal from Chen
& Associates represents the next stage in review, monitoring and
mitigation of the landslide situation on Aspen mountain.
Hammond reminded Council the city has participated in this on a
shared basis with the Skiing Company and the county. Hammond
noted the elements of the problem have created an interest in
sharing in the costs because the slide area is in the control of
the Skiing Company; the areas where the slides occurs and where
the Dago road cut are in the county control, and the develope d
properties that are most threatened by the situation are within
the city's jurisdiction.
Hammond told Council the county is not f ormally committed to this
proposal but staff will be talking to the Commissioners about
sharing this cost. Hammond explained each stage of expense has
told more and defined the next 1 evel of expense. Hammond t of d
Council the total expense f or this proposal is $141,300 including
instrumentation, monitoring, engineering evaluation and design
Curt Stewart, Aspen Skiing Company, told Council included in this
cost is piping along Dago road to keep further water out of that
mass, which is to be installed this summer. Hammond told Council
this summer excavation of the New York tunnel was completed,
which was one of Voight's recommended procedures to see if there
was water in that tunnel.
Councilman Gassman said he is not clear if this proposal is a
final product or just one more step. Hammond said this is a
steppe d process. There is correspondence from Chen related to
mitigation. This step is exploratory and investigative. The
total figures speculated at are between $200,000 to $300,000 in
additional expense for full mitigation. Stewart told Council the
Skiing Company is not waiting to take this next step; it has
already happened. This work has been underway since spring based
on the decision they did not want to lose one more year. These
costs have been fronted by the Skiing Company. Stewart told
Council the slide is approximately a 60 foot density of over
burden which has a lot of moisture in it and which is moving.
This is not moving at any great rate. The question that has not
been answered is how deep it goes. Stewart said to answer that
question, they are planning to drill a 350 foot hole to find out
if there is moisture that deep. Stewart said the key to keeping
that soil in place is to make sure it does not get more water in
it. Another way to keep it from sliding would be to find deep
pocket water. Stewart said the program is a monitoring process,
and doing what can be done to keep moisture out of the slide mass
itself. Stewart said he does not feel anyone can say there is an
absolute fix to this. Hammond told Council the bulk of this work
has been done.
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City Manager Bob Anderson recommended the 1/3 split be continued.
Anderson said a lot of time and money could be spent determining
whose final responsibility this is. Anderson said he would
rather see the money spent constructively moving toward the
solution. Councilwoman Fallin said the mudslide happened 3 years
ago, and asked why money was not put in the budget f or this last
fall. Hammond said this is something he will be doing in the
future. Hammond said he will be considering the larger figures
for the on-going program in the budget process. Hammond said
during 1 ast year ' s budget process he did not have a specific
proposal in hand. Councilwoman Fallin said she is not willing to
give this money but is willing to listen to a proposal at budget
time.
Councilman Isaac stated the work has been done, and the city has
been involved in the program for 3 years. Councilman Isaac said
it is incumbent upon the city to play a part in protecting the
property. Councilman Isaac said it would be irresponsible of the
city not to contribute. Councilwoman Fallin asked why another
consultant was hired instead of Dr. Voight. Hammond told Council
he discussed with Voight carrying this program on. Voight was
very insistent on being directly in charge of the work and being
in Aspen. Hammond told Council Voight's rates are very high and
there was comparable expertise available on a nearer basis.
Hammond told Council Dr. Nieto was recommended and has extensive
work in problems of this nature. Councilwoman Fallin asked if
the mining operations on Aspen mountain are impacting this
problem. Stewart said there is no evidence that what is going on
now is contributing to the problem. Mayor Stirling said this
would completely deflate the contingency f und.
Mayor Stirling moved that Council consider this request during
the 1988 budget hearings and to review it favorably at that time,
as well as to look funding for future solution; seconded by
Councilwoman Fallin.
Councilman Tuite said f unding it this way could make the city a
year behind. Councilman Tuite said these studies have already
been done, and the city should address it now.
Councilwoman Fallin and Mayor Stirling in f avor ; Councilmembe r s
Isaac, Tuite, and Gassman opposed. Motion NOT carried.
Councilman Tuite moved to approve the request for $47,100 to
support the on-going monitoring of the Aspen Mountain landslide
area from current revenue surplus and prior year fund balance;
seconded by Councilman Isaac. Councilmembers Isaac, Gassman and
Tuite in favor; Councilwoman Fallin and Mayor Stirling opposed.
Motion carried.
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Mayor Stirling moved to pass favorable the resolution presented
by the ARC group; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Richard Roth, ARC, presented communications from a U. S. Senator,
Congressman, Governor of Colorado, two state senators and a state
representative. There are also letters from the Rocky Mountain
News. Roth said the theme of these letters is that the pricing
announcement of the Skiing Company was inappropriate and that a
$35 lift ticket may have a negative impact to the Roaring Fork
Valley and to the entire state of Colorado. Roth said the
resolution is asking that the Ski Company reconsider its $35 lift
ticket price. There is a community committee being formed and
this would be an appropriate item for them to discuss. The
resolution asks that the forest service use its clear authority
on reviewing lift ticket prices and hold public hearings on this
matter. The resolution further asks that the Council make a
clear and public statement on behalf of the community welcoming
all visitors.
Roth asked why Council should take a stand on this issue. The
community provides parking, airport and terminal, streets,
stores, lights, water, electricity, transportation, police and
fire protection and amenities in support of the Skiing Company.
Roth pointed out the visitor skier spends at least 17 hours per
day in the community. Roth said if the forest service is going
to allow rate increases, these rate increases should show a
responsiveness to the community's commitment. Roth said this
response could take the form of a reasonable and affordable pass
for locals who help create many quality elements of a ski
vacation.
Roth said the public is a third party in the relationship between
forest service and Ski Company. Roth said the concern about the
ski lift prices has been met with apathy by the f orest service.
Roth said there has been no opportunity provided to give their
views to the forest service, who made their decision in Washing-
ton D.C. not to review prices or seek public input. Roth said
this reflects concern for no other group than the Skiing Company.
Roth said an agency of the federal government that is charged
with the beneficial administration of public land for the people
must consider the benefit to be derived by all the people. Roth
said increased profit was the only motive for the 21 percent
increase on Aspen mountain tickets. Roth quoted from the forest
service manual, which states "concession permits are issued to
provide an essential public service and not primarily to afford a
profit making venture for the permittee" .
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Roth said Philip Mahoney, then-city manager, stated in 1975 "the
problem we are having in this community is directly traceable to
the forest service. We have many strong, independent entities in
this valley; a strong ski industry, and an equally forcible
government sector. We have conservationists and developers. We
have those for the ski trade and those against it. Most of those
issues we face in the community, there are certain ground rules
to the game. They can be resolved in the marketplace, the courts
or by the political process. We understand this process. In
this issue we are facing today, there are no ground rules. We
don't know what is going on. The f orest service says they are
regulating the use of our public land. Everyone with the
exception of the forest service agrees they are not." Roth
quoted from then-Mayor Stacy Standley, "The issue is a need for a
process that incorporates the welfare of all parties in a f orm in
which all can be assured of fair treatment. I wish to emphasize
that forest service decisions on land use to recreation and
prices charges, theref ore, has a substantial impact on local
communities that are improperly considered under current proced-
ures."
Councilman Isaac commented he is hesitant to turn over to the
forest service the decision making process about ski tickets
because this is taking it out of the local community. The Skiing
Company has agreed to set up a committee to discuss ski pricing
and other issues. That will leave the issue in the Pitkin county
environment. Councilman Isaac pointed out the forest service
personnel are not elected nor do peopl a know who they are. The
forest service has made it plain they are not interested in being
involved in the process, and there is no benefit in trying to
force this on them. Councilwoman Fallin said if the forest
service gets back into the regulations business, they will look
at ski areas f rom Calif ornia to Vermont and look at a price
structures for all areas. Councilwoman Fallin said this means
consumers cannot shop for a better price ticket.
Councilman Gassman said he has a hard time with the idea that
life is made better with more regulations, especially legislating
prices. Councilman Gassman said he cannot see what will be
achieved by only attacking 15 percent of the problem, and lif t
ticket prices are about 15 percent of a visitors expenditures.
Councilman Gassman stated it is not fair to single out one aspect
of the cost. Roth said the difference is that this is public
land; ARC is not asking for regulations of prices but for public
hearings and to let the forest service determine if the prices
are out of line.
Mayor Stirling said he is loath
sector, but the federal government
special use permits because this is
to tamper with the private
did place a regulation in the
public land. Mayor Stirling
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said this resolution is to reassure the public that there would
be hearings on ski pricing in the White River National Forest.
Mayor Stirling said it is reasonable for Council to support a
request that the forest service hold public hearings for use on
public lands.
Councilwoman Fallin said she would like to see what the advisory
committee recommends. Councilwoman Fallin said the resolution
would be better to ask the forest service to have public hearings
on all their public lands. Mayor Stirling said CAST is consider-
ing a resolution at their October meeting. Councilman Tuite said
he is not prepared to ask the Ski Company to reconsider their
prices for 1987-88; that is done. Councilman Tuite said he does
not have a problem asking the forest service to review and
regulate because that is a law.
Mayor Stirling in favor; everyone else opposed. Motion NOT
carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to amend the resolution to delete the clause
stating, "the City Council urges the Aspen Skiing Company to
reconsider its prices"; seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in
favor, with the exception of Councilmembers Isaac and Gassman.
Motion carried.
Councilwoman Fallin said she was voting only to remove that
clause, not for the entire resolution.
Mayor Stirling moved to adopt the resolution eliminating the
clause stated above; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Spencer Videon, Aspen Resort Association, pointed out the
resolution is still requesting the f orest service to review the
pricing based on determining its impact on the local community.
Videon urged Council not pass this as the forest service should
not be looking at prices based on how it impact the local
community because they cannot do that. The forest service can
look at gross f fixed assets, skier visits, uphill capacity per
hour. Videon said by approving this is automatically asking f or
a roll back in prices. Jerry Blann, Aspen Skiing Company,
pointed out the overall weighted average increase is 10 - 12
percent in the pricing strategy. Blann reiterated that
530,000,000 has been spent on the ski mountains here. Blann said
if the owners of the Ski Company anticipated there would be
hearings every year to examine the prices, the level of invest-
ment and optimism would not have been there. Blann said he feels
there were a lot of liberties taken with the petition passed.
Blann said the way he read the petition was a public forum to
discuss these issues was being requested. That has happened, and
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the Skiing Company hopes to continue the community involvement
process with the committee.
Mayor Stirling and Councilman Tuite in favor; Councilmembers
Isaac, Fallin and Gassman opposed. Motion NOT carried.
E-S~`---i~-~'U~idD~S - Ice Garden Safety Improvements
Councilman Isaac moved to approve the safety improvements of
$7800 to be paid out of salary savings; seconded by Councilman
Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
p}~-I-~~- ---1-~8~ - Rescinding Ordinance # 15 , 19 8 7
Councilman Gassman moved to read Ordinance #31, Series of 1987;
seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, with the exception
of Councilwoman Fallin. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #31
(Series of 1987)
AN ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE N0. 15 ( SERIES OF
1987) WHICH ORDINANCE PROVIDES FOR THE REPEAL OF THE
ALLO~+~TANCE TO RETAILERS OF 3.3$ OF SALES TAX COLLECTED
TO COVER RETAILERS' EXPENSE FOR THE COLLECTION AND
REMITTANCE OF SALES TAXES WHICH ORDINANCE WAS TO BECOME
EFFECTIVE JULY 1, 1987 was read by the city clerk
Councilman Gassman moved to adopt Ordinance #31, Series of 1987,
on first reading; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Spence Videon, ARA, told Council he has done a survey of the
local businesses about this issue. They have a 17 percent return
with 80 percent in favor of rescission of this ordinance.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Tuite, yes; Gassman, yes; Isaac,
yes; Fallin, no; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
pR~I -1-9-8-7 - F 10o d P1 a i n
Mayor Stirling moved to read Ordinance #32, Series of 1987;
seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #32
(Series of 1987)
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 7-141(c) OF THE MUNICIPAL
CODE OF THE CITY OF ASPEN, COLORADO, TO SET FORTH
REQUIREMENTS FOR APPLICATIONS OF BUILDING PERMITS IN
FLOOD HAZARD AREAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF MEETING THE
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MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE
PROGRAM was read by the city clerk
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #32, Series of 9187;
seconded by Councilman Isaac. Roll call vote; Councilmembers
Fallin, yes; Isaac, yes; Tuite, yes; Gassman, yes; Mayor Stirl-
ing, yes. Motion carried.
Councilman Tuite moved to suspend the rules and extend the
meeting 10 minutes; seconded by Mayor Stirling. All in favor,
motion carried.
- Aspen Auto Fest
This is a request to use the ball field at the Rio Grande for an
auto fest. Bill Efting, parks director, told Council he has had
auto fests in previous cities. Efting said in September he feels
there are more locations than this ball field. The turf area is
very fragile; there is the possibility of ruining the sprinkler
heads. Councilwoman Fallin asked why they could not use the
parking lot. Councilman Tuite said the applicant feels the grass
area will give a better look and feel to the auto fest.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to authorize Bill Efting to work with
this group to stage the auto show in the Rio Grande area but some
place other than the playing field; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
All in favor, motion carried.
Councilman Tuite moved to table this to August 10, 1987; seconded
by Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
P-i~ ~ i~N- ~'f3~~N~i'-- -~~t
Mary Sue Kennsington said she has been able to obtain insurance
for the fair location at Buttermilk; however, she would like
permission to use the Rio Grande as a back up site. Council
agreed they have already given permission to work with staff and
that the Rio Grande could be used as a backup site.
C@N~ENT•--A~`RN~7A
Councilwoman Fallin moved to table until after the Court hearing
July 28, 1987, the Downtown Sports Center; seconded by Councilman
Isaac. Paul Rasmussen, applicant, told Council he had a liquor
violation and is going to court on this July 28, 1987. Rasmussen
said he would have to be shut down if he has to wait two weeks.
Councilwoman Fallin said Council should follow the rules and
should not be granting a renewal until this is resolved in Court.
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Rasmussen told Council his violation is for being open after
hours and having glasses around. Rasmussen told Council he was
not present, and this is against his rules.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to table this until the August 10
meeting and that an extension not be granted until after the
court date; seconded by Councilman Isaac. Councilwoman Fallin
amended the motion to table this until the continued meeting July
28 at 7 p.m.; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor, with
the exception of Councilman Tuite and Mayor Stirling. Motion
carried.
Councilman Isaac requested Pisten Bulley be taken off the consent
agenda because of the negotiations with the Nordic Council. City
Attorney Taddune said this should be done by ordinance and will
be presented at the next Council meeting. Mayor Stirling moved
to table the Pisten Bulley Agreement to the August 10 meeting;
seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilman Isaac said the Canyon Cable Tv agreement states they
will be undergrounded all through the city. Assistant City
Manager Mitchell said the ordinance requires them to underground
wherever undergrounding occurs. This statement is in the cable
agreement that was adopted 3 years ago.
Mayor Stirling moved to approve the consent agenda; seconded by
Councilwoman Fallin. The consent agenda is minutes June 8, 22,
1987; Cable TV Agreement; Quarterly Finance Report; City Hall
Open House; Special Event Permit - Junior Hockey. All in favor,
motion carried.
Assistant City Manager Mitchell told Council the houses offered
by Dick Butera are not imminent of being demolished. Mitchell
told Council he will have to find a location to move or store
these houses.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct the city manager to follow up on
these two houses and report back August 10; seconded by Council-
woman Fallin. All in favor, with the exception of Councilman
Gassman. Motion carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to continue the meeting to July 28, 1987, at
6:30 p. m.; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion
carried. Council left Chambers at 9:20 p.m.
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continued Meeting -- Aspen Ctv Council _~.~.y 28. 1987
Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 6:30 p. m. with
Councilmembers Gassman, Fallin, Isaac and Tuite present.
RIO GRAND- PROPERTY
Mayor Stirling said the concerns are misuse by the city of
property purchased with open space funds, using the property as a
snow dump, the possibility of dumping debris into the river, the
issue of the city never getting stream margin review to deal with
the river bank at the Art Museum. Mayor Stirling noted in the
past 4 years Council has looked at a snow melt machine and has
targeted all sites possible to use for a snow dump. The Council
talked to the sanitation district about using their property and
also discussed buying the sanitation district property to use as
a snow dump. The main issues are distance and the costs in-
curred. Another possibility was using the donated portion of the
Marolt property as a snow dump. Many people objected to that as
they felt it was part of the open space. Mayor Stirling said
none of the sites have worked out as an alternate solution. Jay
Hammond, city engineer, told Council the city previously dumped
snow at the sanitation district site until they built employee
housing on that site in 1980.
Councilman Isaac pointed out when Council bought the Aspen One
property, it was being used as a lumber yard. It was threatened
with development, which is why the city bought it. Hammond
presented Council a packet of material containing a 1985 memoran-
dum listing 13 potential sites for the snow dump. These include
the Koch lumber property, the Marolt, the Thomas properties,
Molly Gibson park, Zoline property, water treatment plant,
Airport Business Center, Elam property, city/county dump, Diane
Smith property, Stein ranch, Jimmie Moore's property, Art Pfister
property and Iselin park. This list includes properties that the
city owns and properties that the city does not own. Hammond
told Council staff looked at parcels about 2.5 to 3 acres that
could conceal a snow dump. Hammond told Council staff tends to
link the snow dump and impound lot; they are both problems of
comparable nature. They are both unsightly and both need to be
dealt with.
Hammond said there are impacts related to the haul distance,
which relates to the city's ability to serve the downtown area
for snow removal. Hammond told Council currently staff goes into
the commercial core in the early morning when cars are not on the
streets, use a motor grader to haul snow out of the curbs and
gutter and into the center of the street creating a windrow. The
city then uses a blower, which is capable of filling a 10 yard
dump in about 50 seconds. The city can fill a truck 37 times in
an hour. The round trip, using a 4 truck fleet, is about 6.5
minutes to the existing snow dump. Hammond said the addition of
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mileage to the haul distance results in an additional truck and
operator for every quarter mile of additional distance to the
dump site, assuming the same level of service.
City Manager Bob Anderson said the city can get larger trucks to
haul the snow; however, there is a limit to the size of trucks.
Hammond told Council the additional truck and driver translates
into an annualized cost of 555,000 per additional truck. Hammond
gave Council an article regarding contamination of snow dumps
with a list of criteria that are considered appropriate for a
snow dump location, like a disposal site, a site close to a truck
route or heavy duty road away from residential areas, etc.
Hammond pointed out the routes to the existing snow dump site are
pretty much out of residential zones. Anderson stated positive
points about the current location are its proximity and the city
owns the property. The negative points are with the snow are
cinders and rocks and trash that are picked up during the
process.
Hammond told Council in the spring, the city uses a grader to
windrow the material that has settled out of the melting snow,
load it out and haul it to the dump. The city has been using the
snow dump site as a sweeper transfer site. The sweeper that
operates in town has a 4 cubic yard capacity. It is filled up,
driven to the snow dump site, unloaded on the site. Some of that
material was getting into the river, which is unacceptable. The
city has stopped that and has pulled away from the embankment and
dug out a low point so that the material could be confined and
not allowed to flow to the river. This material is then loaded
into a truck and hauled out to the dump. Hammond told Council in
the area the city has been dumping, there has been a build up of
material in the last couple of years. Hammond pointed out 5 to 6
cubic yards of material has been removed from the river adjacent
to the Aspen One property to create secondary channels in an
endeavor to open the flood plain to reduce problems in the area.
Hammond told Council some of that material, at the direction of
the Council, was stockpiled elsewhere on site and is in the back
corner.
Hammond told Council the city obtained stream margin review at
the time f or river channel work, the restoration of the embank-
ment at the Art Museum, and some channel work upstream from the
Aspen One along Denise Reich's property. This work was permitted
through the city's stream margin process and the federal permit-
ting with the Army Corps of Engineers. Mayor Stirling said
citizens are saying that the city went in and did work to save
the Art Museum but when other citizens tried to do the same
thing, they were red tagged or stopped from doing the same things
the city did in an emergency situation. Hammond said that is a
valid complaint and something the city should be very sensitive
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about. Hammond said the distinction of the Art Museum is that
the structure was in imminent danger of the river taking out the
embankment and taking the art museum with it. Hammond told
Council in the other situations, the property was threatened but
the homes were not.
Janet Deane said there was a picture in the Ash me s. of the
sandbags under a home. Because of the dirt fill going on across
the river, the course of the river has been changed. The house
itself was definitely under threat. The owner of the house was
red tagged and stopped from putting up sandbags in an effort to
save the house. This was a life threatening situation because
there were people living in the house. City Attorney Taddune
pointed out if the Art Museum was allowed to go downstream, there
would have been a lot more damage to houses along the river.
Taddune told Council said there were problems with what people
were doing to the banks of the River affecting the hydrology of
the river. Ms. Dean told Council during the flood threat, the
city was pulling out trees by the Mill Street bridge. Owners
across the stream asked to pull out their trees and were told
they had to have stream margin review for this.
Anderson said it seems there should be a different standard in
emergency than in non-emergency times. Hammond said a lot of
these particular instances was the high water and flooding in
1984. Hammond told Council in 1985, the city undertook the first
level of material removal on the Aspen One property and opened up
the first secondary channel. Hammond pointed out in 1985, the
peak runoff exceeded the 1984 level and due to the changes in the
channel made on the Aspen One property, the city did not ex-
perience significant additional trouble at the Art Museum nor did
the properties upstream. Hammond said the point that the Aspen
One has been filled over time is correct; the old mapping shows
about 3 separate channels and a wide, flat area in the bottom of
the river. Hammond said by re-opening t hat channel, the city
has begun to relieve some of the problems. Hammond said he is
concerned there is an impression that the city's use of the Aspen
One has been nothing but irresponsible. Hammond suggested
regarding the fill, the city has done a lot to relieve the
problem.
Ms. Deane told Council Denise Reich tried to transplant a tree
and was red tagged because she was within the flood plain area.
Ms . Deane said Ms . Reich tried to replace a f ront door within
that area. Anderson said these are not the things that the city
typically catches. Bil Dunaway said it sounds like the city has
a grudge against one of its citizens. Councilman Isaac said one
of the neighbors keeps calling the city to tell them what is
going on. Anderson told Council there is a community conflict
resolution group, and he has talked to Ms. Reich about using that
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process. Anderson said this does not absolve the city from
working out the problems they have. Dunaway said the city dug a
trench on the property without a permit. Hammond noted the Code
states that devo3-o~pme-~t within the 100 foot zone requires review.
Mayor Stirling said the issue is would the city allow any other
citizen to do something like that without review.
Francis Whitaker said Council is discussing two different
subjects at the same time; the snow dump problem and the 100 year
flood plain problem. Taddune said when the city looked at the
snow dump, the also reviewed the 100 year flood plain, and the
snow dump activity was supposed to occur outside the 100 year
flood plain. Hammond said it is within stream margin review
area. Mayor Stirling asked if the city received stream margin
review approval from P & Z. Hammond said he does not think so;
in 1980 the Code required review of development in the flood
plain and the temporary snow dump was not perceived as develop-
ment. Hammond told Council he would have to look at the current
FEMA regulations to see if review is required today.
Anderson told Council in terms of use for temporary transfer of
the sweepings, the city can cease that. Anderson said in terms
of long term, if the city no longer uses this as a transfer site,
they will have to locate another site, which will add costs.
Anderson told Council one of the street sweepers the city is
looking at has the potential of dumping into a truck. The snow
dump is a much more massive problem, and it comes down to what is
the community willing to do to solve the problem. Anderson said
the city ought to be rigorous with themselves about the processes
required.
Taddune told Council his office relies on citizen complaints in
order to enforce some of the rules and regulations. Taddune said
in some cases, violations of the rules are inadvertent and his
office uses a show cause procedure to give citizens an oppor-
tunity to explain why the violation occurred and what they intend
to do about it. Taddune said the same should apply to the city.
Taddune said in terms of enforcement, the city is being treated
the same way as private citizens. In all cases, if private
citizens see something going on that does not seem right, they
should contact the city immediately. Anderson said perhaps the
organization has gotten so tied up in the letter of the law issue
that the city is losing the question of the impact on individ-
ual s . Anderson said some of these complaints are a symptom of
something deeper. Mayor Stirling agreed this creates the
adversarial kinds of feelings with city hall.
Councilwoman Fallin said the 1985 memos have motions to direct
staff to prepare an FPA plan and construction plans for the Rio
Grande property complete with snow dump and impound lot, widen
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the river channel as necessary, provide landscaping berms and
planting to mitigate the visual impacts, and to re-route the Rio
Grande trail, and asked if this was ever done. Hammond said the
memos are to give Council a background. The minutes of September
1985 direct the city manager to begin discussions immediately
with the sanitation district to use their land as a site f or snow
dump. Mayor Stirling pointed out at that meeting he raised the
issue of leaving the snow on the streets, or cleaning the
downtown streets and not the residential areas. Puppy Smith,
streets superintendent, told Council the streets have to be
cleaned otherwise they will become impassable; parking along the
sides will be eliminated. Smith said the snow will accumulate
along the sides and when it starts melting can go into busi-
nesses.
Dunaway said it may be time for the city to decide to have the
snow dump at the Aspen One and to mitigate the adverse impacts.
The city cannot seem to get rid of the snow dump but nothing has
been done to improve the site. Councilwoman Fallin asked about
the possibility of using the Jenny Adair park. Hammond said the
Jenny Adair site is not large enough to handle the quantity of
snow necessary. Hammond noted that any site used f or a snow dump
will be devastated year round by that use. Hammond said he has
discussed putting a berm around the existing site, and landscap-
ing it. Councilman Tuite said vegetation is never going to grow
on a snow dump site. Councilman Tuite said the site could be
concreted so that it can be cleaned up. David White, P ~ Z
member, pointed out the snow dump was illegally put on the
property in 1981; it is now 1987. White suggested using 4 or 5
different sites for snow dumps and mitigating the impacts on
these sites. White said something has to be done t o the snow
dump site.
Mayor Stirling suggested putting this on the August 10th agenda,
have the staff summarize the issues of the snow dump and if this
should be remanded to P & Z for stream margin review, and address
the issue of the bank in front of the Art Museum. Whitaker asked
Council to consider the underlying purpose f or which the Aspen
One property was bought, which was to preserve the banks of the
Roaring Fork river. Wainwright Dawson suggested that Council
ought to have some plans for emergency procedures. Hammond told
Council as of now, the city will not dump the sweeper material on
the Aspen One site. Hammond said by the end of the week, the
city will remove the pit and fill that berm back in to the grades
that existed before, take the bulldozer off the property and move
it to the shop. The old car shown in the photo has already been
removed. Councilman Gassman suggested investigating the ponds at
the golf course or the ski jumps at the bottom of Aspen mountain
as snow dump sites. Councilman Isaac suggested the parking lot
at the M.A.A. as a possible snow dump site. Dawson suggested the
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city may have a person to be contacted to resolve these types of
complaints. Mayor Stirling said ideally citizens should go to
the elected officials. Anderson said there may be room for a n
ombudsman in the permitting process for citizens to use.
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Paul Rasmussen, applicant, reminded Council they requested him to
report back after his court date earlier this morning. Rasmussen
told Council the Downtown Sports Center is a pool hall, and one
night there was a pool match that attracted a large crowd and
went on after hours. Jim True, representing the applicant, said
there has been no specific statutory violation alleged by the
police officers. True told Council what is alleged is there was
consumption after closing hours. The district attorney and True
both did not think there was any violation being alleged. There
was an allegation that there was permission of consumption after
hours. The applicant is contesting whether there was an actual
consumption on the premises after hours. The district attorney
has offered a plea of no contest to this charge in exchange for a
deferred sentencing judgement. True said there will be a
deferral of any judgement on this matter of a period of time. If
there are no further violations, the case will be dismissed.
True said for one violation to deny the renewal of a license
would be overly harsh. True pointed out if there are a ny
violations of this particular regulations, the court would have a
significant remedy. True said the next court date is September
8th and the length of the deferred period has not been discussed.
City Attorney Taddune pointed out the licensing authority may
ref use to renew a license for any good cause, subject to judicial
review. Taddune said if Council were to refuse to renew the
license, they would have to do that on the basis of good cause
and on concrete facts established in the course of a hearing.
Mayor Stirling moved to renew the liquor license for Downtown
Sports Center; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Mayor Stirling said this is a very different issue than serving
and hiring minors, and promoting the dispensing of alcohol to
minors. Those are broad community issues. Mayor Stirling said
he views this as an isolated case and is not cause enough f or
Council to deny the renewal. True told Council after the period
of deferred sentencing, assuming there are no other violations,
the case will be dismissed. This could take as long as one year
from September 8th.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilwoman Fallin. Motion
carried.
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Councilman Tuite told Council RFTA has looked at the plans for a
transportation center at Rubey Park. The time line is very
tight. The P & Z meeting is scheduled for August 11 and will
hav e to wait for Council final approval until the next regular
meeting of August 24th. Councilman Tuite requested Council
continue their August 10th meeting to August 17 in order to give
RFTA an extra week. Councilman Tuite told Council RFTA is not
yet sure they are going to proceed with construction as they do
not want construction going on during Christmas week. RFTA would
like the best opportunity they have. Council asked Councilman
Tuite to bring this up at the August 10th meeting.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adjourn the meeting at 7:55 p.m.;
seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, motion carried.
Kathryn Koch, City Clerk
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