HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19880209Continued Meeting Aspen City Council February 9, 1988
PM10 STANDARDS - Public Hearing l
CASTLERIDGE - Waiver of Land Lease 12
PARKING CONSULTANT 13
RESOLUTION - Highway 82 EIS 14
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Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with
Councilmembers Isaac, Fallin, Gassman and Tuite present.
Councilman Tuite moved to continued the items from last night's
regular meeting to the end of the agenda; seconded by Councilman
Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
PM10 STANDARDS - Public Hearing
Mayor Stirling said Council has to consider what is the right
thing to do for the health of the community aside from the
demands being made from the federal government. Torn Dunlop,
environmental health department director, read a goals statement
from his office: to improve, maintain and preserve the quality of
life in Aspen by offering constructive resolution to the problem
of air quality deterioration cause by human generated impacts; to
act as an information collection agency and resource for the
community in compiling data for response to requests for actions
in monitoring and seeking solutions to air pollution problems; to
keep an open channel to the community and not lose sight of the
input that citizens may have to this most perplexing problem; to
represent to the elected officials the current and changing
conditions of forces outside the Aspen area that are driving the
need for immediate response to achieve compliance with federal
laws; to represent the city and county in negotiations with state
and federal agencies concerning demands for action that poten-
tially may have a dramatic impact on the lifestyle of the
citizens and visitors.
Mayor Stirling said there are six categories which are pollution
related matters; the ozone, sulphur dioxide, nitrous oxide,
lead, particulate matter PM10, which are 10 microns are smaller,
and carbon monoxide. This public hearing is addressing PM10
standards in response to demands being made by the federal
government.
Lee Cassin, environmental health department, told Council this
local implementation plan was recommended by their department and
the Clean Air Board, and modified by Council at first reading.
Ms. Cassin said the purpose of the plan is to reduce PM10
pollution to safe levels. Ms. Cassin said the plan elements are
very difficult ones; however, there is not a known way to reduce
PM10 levels without taking these steps. Ms. Cassin said each
strategy is going to involve compromises and working out details
along the way. Ms. Cassin said it is the commitment of the
environmental health department to research any new technologies
that may be developed to clean up fireplaces, these can be used.
Ms. Cassin said the environmental health department is committed
to continually monitoring and analyzing the data to try and
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determine any correlations to find any solutions that might be
appropriate.
Ms. Cassin said the program Council adopted on first reading is
the best one to provide healthful air quality; however, they are
open to any approaches that may be devised. Ms. Cassin recom-
mended changes to the local implementation plan to allow in
addition to gas logs and removing fireplaces, if a new technology
provides clean burning fireplaces, this would be an option. The
EPA is willing to allow this intent stated in the LIP. Ms.
Cassin told Council no such technology exists now. Ms. Cassin
said the health department pledges to ask the EPA to revise the
LIP at any time that data or technology changes. The local
implementation plan is a flexible plan that should be changed if
new technology develops.
Ms. Cassin reminded Council the current data shows violation of
the total particulate health standards in most years. Ms. Cassin
said total particulate are only measured every six days. If
this is violated 3 times a year, it means Aspen violates at the
rate of 18 days a year. Ms. Cassin said the reason Aspen got in
the number 1 category comes from not only the worst day but the
average level during this time, the number of relatively high
levels during that time. Ms. Cassin said the causes and effects
of the high PM10 levels are very complicated; there are lots of
factors that combine to make high pollution days. Ms. Cassin
said staff is making a recommendation based on the best scien-
tific analysis available. PM10 levels are influenced by tempera-
ture, wind speed, time of day of winds, barometric pressure,
inversion, number of people in town, what the snow is like. The
most important thing about the PM10 levels is you cannot take one
days total particulate and know what the PM 10 level will be on
that day.
Ms. Cassin told Council the commissioners adopted the same local
implementation plan as Council on first reading. Ms. Cassin said
the LIP for the county did not include things germane only to the
city. The county supported the plan in full. These measures
would apply in the metro area and go to the water plant, T-Lazy-
7, the airport business center, and Difficult campground.
Ms. Cassin said the first item in the plan is the continuation
of the voluntary education program and addition of new programs
as they become appropriate. Ms. Cassin said the department wants
to do a wide range of programs. Item #2 is to adopt ordinances
to require future fireplaces to have gas logs in them for new
construction. Ms. Cassin adding language stating if any new
fire place technology is developed with emissions equivalent to
certified stoves as determined by their office, such fireplaces
could be installed.
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Ms. Cassin told Council item #3 is requiring registration of
stoves and fireplaces. Item #4 is requiring existing fireplaces
to be retrofitted with either gas logs or new technology if one
comes along. Item #5 is that dirty stoves be replaced with
certified stoves. Existing stoves that are certified would not
be required to be replaced. Item #6 is the use of the hardest
sanding material that is safe and at a reasonable cost. Item #7
is storage of the flusher truck at the RFTA bus barn so that the
city can flush more days of the year and more hours during the
day.
Ms. Cassin pointed out that item #8 is to evaluate a parking
restriction program on Main street to see if it will make it
easier to clean the streets more effectively. Ms. Cassin said
she included a experimental program to see whether mixing sand
with magnesium chloride or double washing improves dust levels.
Item #10 is the auto disincentive and bus clean up package. Item
#11 is voter approval for construction of a parking structure.
Suzanne Caskey, Clean Air Board, said these recommendations are
designed to bring Aspen into compliance with standards based on
health. The body has a natural carrying capacity and has evolved
over time so that it functions well in a specific ambience and
can tolerate only so much change in that ambience. Ms. Caskey
told Council the National Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee
determined standards they feel the human body can tolerate.
Aspen's outdoor air is not healthy and too often has not met the
health standards. Ms. Caskey pointed out that people cannot
escape pollution that they walk, ski and run in. There is no
substitute for clean air.
Ms. Caskey told Council the Clean Air Board considered why people
burn wood and tried to satisfy those needs. People do use wood
to heat their homes. Certified stoves are up to 95 percent
cleaner than traditional dirty burners. Ms. Caskey said fire-
places are quite inefficient in delivering heat. Ms. Caskey said
offering much improved gas logs as an alternate will make fire
place users happy. Ms. Caskey said dealing with wood burning is
a challenge because of the issue of the individual rights versus
the community good. In this case, the right of the community is
its health and is the center of the discussion. Ms. Caskey
stated this is a community problem and the solutions that are
right are those that are equitable and share the burden equally
across the community.
Steve Arnold, director of technical services of the state, told
Council in the mid-60's there was a national concern over air
pollution problems in major cities. There was an effort mounted
to monitor air pollution levels to determine what typical
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pollutants were in the atmosphere and to come up with reasonable
standards for health implications. Arnold said in 1971 EPA
established the first set of air pollution standards including 5
pollutants, of which one is total suspended particulate stan-
dards. Colorado has had air pollution monitoring for particulate
in 75 communities around the state since the early 1970's.
Arnold said when the standard was established for total suspended
particulate, it was based on limited health effects information.
When Congress passed the clean air act, they demanded EPA
reevaluate the standards on a 5 year basis. Arnold told Council
in 1981, the EPA came to the conclusion that a fine particulate
standard should replace the total suspended particulate standard.
In 1981 EPA put together the air pollution criteria documents and
a synopsis of the best scientific evidence available dealing
with particulate air pollution. In 1984 a recommendation was
made to the EPA on a PM 10. The standard was a range between 50
and 65 micrograms per cubic meter for an annual average standard
and between 150 and 350 micrograms per cubic meter for a 24-hour
standard. Arnold told Council the reason there are two different
standards are because there are two different types of health
impacts. The short term health impacts are those experienced
with a heavy dose of particulate levels, and then spend time
trying to remove those particles from the body. The EPA reviewed
the standards and concluded there was reasonable evidence for
establishing the standards at the lower end of the proposed
ranges. Arnold said these are health based standards that are
the culmination of 10 years of evaluating scientific studies.
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing.
Mr. Stewart asked what the city has been violating the last 3
years. Ms. Cassin answered it was the 24-hour health standard
for particulate levels for total particulate. Ms. Cassin said
Aspen has not measured the PM10 standards until 3 weeks ago.
Mark Freidberg endorsed the remarks of Suzanne Caskey and urged
Council to pass this plan. Freidberg said the best test of clean
air is how people feel when they breath. Freidberg urged
Council to seriously address building a parking structure and
expanding the malls to do something about the auto disincentive
program. Freidberg said the only way to get people out of their
cars is to take away the parking spaces and to have a parking
structure for these cars.
Donnelly Erdman asked how the particulate are differentiated in
measurements. Erdman asked if particulate from sanding and from
fireplaces can be differentiated when measured. Ms. Cassin
showed monitoring samples from various locations in the county.
Ms. Cassin said wood smoke particles are very fine, which is why
there is a health implication in breathing these. Ms. Cassin
said there are ways to chemically distinguish what the sources
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are. This will not be done until at least this summer. Ms.
Cassin told Council there are 4 times as many fireplaces in the
metro area as wood burning stoves. Ms. Cassin reminded Council
staff did a study asking people how often and how much wood they
burn.
Marty Stouffer commended Council and staff for undertaking this
work. Stouffer said this plans seems to delay the day of
reckoning for 3 years. Stouffer asked what might be done
immediately on this plan, like licensing wood vendors to certain
types of wood. Stouffer said he favors this plan. Carolyn
Miller said people who live here year round seem to be paying a
penalty for their fireplaces for the visitors coming in using
their fireplaces. Mayor Stirling said Steamboat Springs or-
dinance excludes single family dwellings from the requirement of
installation of gas logs. Ms. Caskey said the CAB and staff
looked at this solution and decided it was not the best way to
go. Ms. Caskey said it was felt that the whole community should
stick together and carry the burden. Ms. Caskey said if lodges
and condominiums were singled out, they would fight this all the
way. Ms. Caskey said if lodges were singled out, multi-family
short term buildings should be singled out also.
Jennifer Heistad, who lives at the base of Aspen mountain, told
Council her windows are black from the air pollution. Ms.
Heistad asked if there could be a ban on morning burning through-
out the town. Ms. Heistad suggested making wood less available.
Anne Austin questioned residents being penalized for the sake of
tourists. Ms. Austin said it is her right to have a fireplace.
Ms. Austin said she is making a single family residence versus
condominium argument; the condominiums are the main source of the
problem right now.
Ed Thrasher agreed the homeowners should be allowed to retain
their fireplaces and cut down on the rental fireplaces. Thrasher
suggested the voluntary no burn programs should be continued.
Jim Martin said he feels there is a rush into this program based
on inadequate information. Measuring for this type of particle
was just started two weeks ago. Martin said whatever the city
adopts should be measured and should not be hurried. Dr. Bob
Sawyer said there are a lot of good things going on in Aspen with
this program; however, there is not a good data base yet. Dr.
Sawyer cautioned about the over-emphasis on such contamination
being related to health effects. Sawyer said the potential is
very low for that.
Molly Campbell, Gant, agreed this is proceeding too fast. Ms.
Campbell said she cannot understand why, if there are 3 bad days,
there are such serious problems. Ms. Campbell said if the city
adopts a program, it should be carefully thought through, it
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should address parking structure, fireplaces, roads, and an
equitable program. Ms. Campbell said Aspen is a resort community
and virtually everyone's income is dependent upon the resort
community. Ms. Campbell said it is unfair to discriminate
against second homeowners because they are also citizens of this
community. Ms. Campbell said there are less than 2,000 fire-
places in lodges and condominiums, out of a total of 8500.
Gene Reardon asked if there is a kind of wood that is less
offensive. Jim King, state air pollution control, said certain
types of wood could burn 10 percent cleaner but no more. Sally
Roach said she has worked very hard on the voluntary program and
feels this is getting a much better response from tourists than
locals. Ms. Roach said she feels this program is being rushed
into and has major problems with the numbers from the state and
from Washington. Viscount Stewart pointed out the numbers have
only been measured for two weeks. Stewart said it is a shame the
lodge owners should have a total ban on an activity they feel is
important for their revenues when these numbers are somewhat in
question. Stewart said he questioned the all or nothing attitude
in the proposals. Stewart suggested putting off the dates of
implementation until there has been more data.
Edie Dunn said the pollution in this valley makes her physically
sick. Ms. Dunn said she does not feel this is rushing the
program. People are being effected by the air quality, and it
does not take scientific evidence to prove there is a problem in
this community. Sharon Mollica, Clean Air Board, said it does
not take much to look around and see there is a pollution
problem. Ms. Mollica urged Council to consider this as step 1
and to combine this with other areas of dealing with the pollu-
tion. Pat Gannett said there is a parking problem and the city
needs a parking structure. Gannett said he is curious as to how
much volume the transient tourists is responsible for versus the
local people and if there would not be an impact in putting gas
logs into the locations where a lot of wood is being burning.
Jim Colombo agreed there is a problem in town; however, the
dimensions and the specifics of the problem will continue to be
an item for discussion for a long time. Colombo said the
citizens are concerned. The timing of Council's actions are
premature and should be put off to analyze the information.
Colombo said there are parts of the plan that can be implemented
immediately. Replacing fireplaces can be a phased program that
can be recalculated after the results of the voluntary program
are seen.
Councilman Tuite said he has seen the air get worse over the last
14 years. Councilman Tuite said tourists are Aspen's economy but
so is the air. Councilman Tuite said he would like to see a plan
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where if the city reaches a state of acceptability, the full
implementation of the plan could be curtailed. Councilman Tuite
said he would like to see some assistance given to people who
burn stoves for heating their residence. Councilman Tuite said
he is prepared to adopt a comprehensive plan.
Councilman Isaac said this plan will impinge on the rights of
individuals; however, he was elected to uphold the health and
safety of the community. Aspen has a problem. Councilman Isaac
said he feels the plans is balanced, addressing fireplaces and
stoves, traffic, cars and a lack of parking facility. Councilman
Isaac pointed out the plan is not being done all at once, which
will give the city a chance to have more complete measurement of
what the pollution is made up of. Councilman Isaac said if the
figures are wrong, the city will know it before people have to
remove their fireplaces. Councilman Isaac said the city has to
have a plan and cannot wait indefinitely. Ms. Roach said the
state will be watching Aspen's pollution levels whether they
violate these in the next 3 years or not.
John, air quality division, told Council they recognize the
uncertainty of the data. The state recommends anything mandatory
not be put in place until they can do a chemical mass balance
analysis of the new filter pads. John told Council this test is
a way of verifying the computer modeling and the projections
made. The state will take the filter pad and analyze what is on
it during different seasons. John told Council they will be able
to tell where the pollution comes from in this analysis. John
told Council in the collection in Telluride, the violation s at
different times of the year are caused by different sources.
During the holiday season, 70 or 80 percent of the violation is
wood burning, later in the spring 40 or 50 percent is street
sanding. John suggested the effective date of any ordinances be
after the state can look at these analysis. John told Council
the clean air requires the plan in place will keep the town from
violating the health standards in the future. That is the goal
of continued monitoring.
Mayor Stirling read into the record a letter from Murray Pope
favoring 100 percent of the proposals, including phasing out of
fireplaces. There is a letter from the Aspen Wilderness Workshop
saying that air quality is deteriorating each year and there must
be drastic legislation and strong enforcement. The letter stated
Wilderness Workshop concurs with the suggestions in the plan and
the plan may be weakened by not including elimination of fire-
places. Mayor Stirling read a letter from David Bruton, thanking
the Council for taking a stand to help reduce air pollution.
Councilman Gassman said this plan is asking people to make
sacrifices based on guesses. Councilman Gassman said this plan
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is making the assumption that people do not have the common sense
to act in their own best interest. Councilman Gassman said
people are voluntarily changing their wood burning habits because
they are capable of making responsible decisions by themselves.
Al Fiorello said it takes about 3 year s f or people to change
their habits. Fiorello said there has only been a half-hearted
voluntary program to date, without a lot of creativity. Fiorello
urged Council to slow down and to not adopt this plan. Graeme
Means supported cleaning up the air in Aspen. Jim Colombo
pointed out the state has said the city should not implement
parts of this plan for 3 years until the state is sure of their
numbers. Colombo said that itself should be a warning signal,
that the state is not really sure what the problem is or the
degree of the problem.
John Leahy, state department of health, told Council at the end
of this winter season, the state will have an adequate sampling
to do a chemical mass balance analysis. Ms. Cassin said the
staff and clean air board recommended the 3 years because they
felt people needed time to plan and to save money for clean
burning devices or gas logs. Marty Stouffer pointed out a big
problem is street dust or sand. The plan states that the
"hardest material available will be used at a reasonable cost".
Stouffer said that statement could be very subjective and
suggested that "at a reasonable cost" be clarified. Stouffer
said he feels a substantial increase in cost is warranted if it
would eliminate the problem.
Ms. Cassin pointed out she picked some deadline for the plan,
which are December 31, 1988. Ms. Cassin said the plan has to
include when the ordinances go into effect so Council should
determine the effective date of any proposed ordinances. Mayor
Stirling told Council Garmisch-Partenkirchen required every
tourist accommodation to install gas logs 10 years ago. Gar-
misch, too, has an air quality program. Mayor Stirling pointed
out a big issue with the clean indoor act was side stream smoke,
which the no n-smoker cannot control. Mayor Stirling said the
same thing is true of fireplaces, the smoke cannot be contained
within one's house. Mayor Stirling said stopping the deforesta-
tion is also very important. Another issue is what is in the
best health interests of the community. Mayor Stirling said the
city is one of the major polluters, which the city is trying to
address. Mayor Stirling said another participant is the Roaring
Fork Transit Agency. The city recently passed a resolution
including the use of smaller buses, increasing the bus headways,
an aggressive marketing program, high occupancy vehicle lane on
highway 82.
Mayor Stirling said as a property manager, he would like to
broadcast clean air to tourists. People come to a resort f or
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clean air. Mayor Stirling said scientific data can be argued f or
years. There will always be another school of thought. Mayor
Stirling said he would like to see the city go forward with this
plan .
Mayor Stirling asked who will oversee and lead the voluntary
program. How will the effects be measured and how will the
program be enforced. Mayor Stirling said the momentum is greater
than last year because this is a grassroots effort. Tom Dunlop
told Council this should be a community-wide effort. The
environmental health department can help manage and promote the
voluntary efforts, but are not experts in marketing and survey-
ing. Mayor Stirling said the environmental health department is
the logical group to be the center to assist the whole community.
Councilwoman Fallin suggested Council appointing an ad ho c
committee to provide leadership, marketing and PR. Councilwoman
Fallin said the Wilderness Workshop can take an important role in
this program; they have people and expertise that can lend itself
to this program.
Councilman Tuite asked staff to discuss not putting any wood in
lodges. If a guest wants wood, they have to request it. Molly
Campbell agreed the lodges should be involved in this effort.
Ms. Campbell said the lodge owners are some of the most highly
informed people in town about the problem. Councilwoman Fallin
said tourists will go to the grocery store and buy the fake logs.
Councilwoman Fallin asked if these are cleaner or dirtier than
wood fires. Leahy said they tend to be dirtier than wood.
Councilman Tuite said when tourists in lodges ask for wood, they
will also have a one to one contact about proper burning and the
air pollution problems. Council agreed to go forward with the
voluntary program.
Number 2 is the proposal to require with all new construction
that gas logs be installed. The intention is to adopt this
ordinance by December without designating when it would be
implemented. Mayor Stirling suggested implementing this as soon
as possible. Mayor Stirling read a letter into the record from
Carolyn Diffenbaugh opposing the fireplace ban as this is a
necessary heat source for some people as well as one of the few
luxuries people enjoy. Ms. Diffenbaugh points out that many
Aspen homes are all electric and gas fires would be a burdensome
expense and is a poor substitute.
Councilwoman Fallin said in the '70s citizens were told to
replace all non-renewable fuel sources. Councilwoman Fallin said
she has problems telling people to put gas back in their homes
when they were told to take them out in the '70s. Ms. Caskey
agreed the clean air board has struggled with this also.
However, watching a piece of wood burn is a true luxury; one gets
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very little heat from it and loses a lot of heat from the house.
Ms. Caskey said the only pure way is to remove fireplaces. Ms.
Cassin told Council she has amended #2 to add if an alternative
technology is developed in the interim that allows burning wood
cleanly in fireplaces, that would be allowed.
Councilman Isaac said there is a problem in Aspen with fire-
places, and he cannot see allowing any new fireplaces to be
constructed. This would only make the situation worse. A state
employee told Council gas logs are 99.9 percent cleaner than wood
burning. Ms. Cassin told Council there is enough gas available
to service all the fireplaces for two years. Colombo said gas is
a resource that the Council has little control over. In ten
years there may not be any gas.
Mayor Stirling moved that #2 be included in the plan as written
but not start a first reading on the ordinance until the city has
the results of the PM 10 study in July; seconded by Councilwoman
Fallin.
Councilman Tuite said he would like to see this implemented as
soon as possible. The more fireplaces built, the more of a
problem there is.
Everyone was opposed. Motion NOT carried.
Councilman Tuite asked why this is dated December 1988. Ms.
Cassin said she is trying to realistically schedule this so that
Aspen is in compliance with the plan.
Councilman Isaac moved to start implementation of an ordinance
restricting new construction of fireplaces on or before June 1,
1988; seconded by Councilman Tuite. Councilman Isaac included in
his motion as #2 is presented by staff. All in favor, with the
exception of Councilman Gassman. Motion carried.
Mayor Stirling said #3 is to adopt ordinance requiring all
existing and future fireplaces and stoves to be registered.
Councilman Tuite said he would like to see the date of this
requirement moved up. Councilman Tuite said he would like to see
this include possible financial aid. Council requested this be
implemented by June 1, 1988.
All in favor, motion carried.
The next part of the plan is to adopt ordinances requiring
existing fireplaces to have gas logs installed
Mayor Stirling moved to adopt ordinances following this descrip-
tion but not start any work on first reading until the PM 10 work
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is done; seconded by Councilman Isaac. Mayor Stirling said the
first reading should be by July 1st after the information is
available.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Gassman. Motion
carried.
#5 is to adopt ordinances requiring existing stoves to be
replaced with certified stoves or stoves having equivalent
emissions as determined by the environmental health department
within 3 years of approval of the strategy. Mayor Stirling said
this, too, will be implemented contingent on getting data from
the PM 10 study.
Mayor Stirling moved to adopt #5, as above; seconded by Council-
man Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
Mayor Stirling said #6 should be to use the hardest sanding
material that is safe and available and eliminate "at reasonable
cost". All of Council is in favor of this.
#7 is to store the flusher truck at the RFTA barn, which the city
is already doing. #8 is to evaluate a parking restriction
program on Main street. Mayor Stirling said he would like to
have this more clearly presented so Council can understand what
the implications are.
Mayor Stirling moved to have a parking restriction program
presented to Council on or before May 1, 1988, for Council to
evaluate; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion
carried.
#9 is to conduct experimental program to determine whether mixing
sand with magnesium chloride or double washing improves dust
levels. Mayor Stirling moved to charge the streets department to
continue working on all experimental programs related to removing
sand from the streets; seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in
favor, motion carried.
#10 is to advocate to the Commissioners and RFTA auto disincen-
tives measures to reduce emissions including 5 minute idling
ordinance, research other fuels. Councilwoman Fallin said the 5
minute idling has to go beyond RFTA to include all buses and
trucks. Council said this should apply to all internal combus-
tion engines. Mayor Stirling said this ordinance should come to
Council on or before May 1, 1988. Council is all in favor of
#10.
#11 is to seek voter approval for construction of a parking
facility according to the transportation plan.
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Councilwoman Fallin moved to support #11; seconded by Councilman
Tuite. Councilwoman Fallin said the date of the election should
be set by the second meeting in June 1988. All in favor, with
the exception of Councilman Gassman and Mayor Stirling. Motion
carried.
#12 is to actively seek the cooperation of Pitkin County in the
adoption of the LIP elements. Mayor Stirling said the county has
adopted this on first reading, and the city will continue to work
with the county.
Councilman Tuite said he would like to see the city cover the Rio
Grande and Spring street that are not paved. Councilman Tuite
said he is not saying to pave this but to cover it with some-
thing. All of Council is in favor of this.
Colombo suggested the city adopt an ordinance outlining the types
of wood and dryness of wood that can be burned. Ms. Cassin said
this should be covered in the brochures and educational mater-
ials. Ms. Cassin said staff feels it is a bad idea to do it in
the form of an ordinance. Dunlop said the manpower spent trying
to control that specific element is less productive than time
spent towards a more responsive program. Council agreed to add
this into the educational process.
Councilman Isaac moved to adopt the plan as approved and amended
by Council; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, with
the exception of Councilman Gassman. Motion carried.
CASTLERIDGE - Waiver of Land Lease
Assistant City Manager Mitchell said the owners of CastleRidge
have asked for a moratorium on the land lease payments until
February. Staff is recommending Council not invoke the contract
default clause. Mitchell told Council staff is investigating the
options on the Castleridge bonds for refinancing or selling the
units to try and deal with the long term issue of making the
rents affordable. Mitchell recommended the city not require
payment of the land lease until the staff has come up with the
recommended solution.
Mayor Stirling said he has serious problems with selling the
Castleridge units. Councilmembers Isaac and Fallin agreed.
Mayor Stirling pointed out this is the last significant source of
pure rental housing. Councilwoman Fallin said the city should
learn a lesson from Silverking.
Mitchell told Council the owners are willing to pay interest on
the money. Mitchell said an option is not to suspend the payment
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and the owners will have to decide what to do. The city can then
invoke the default clause. Mayor Stirling said the owners have
made every other payment on time, and the city will be getting
interest.
Mayor Stirling moved to suspend the February 20th land lease
payment for no more than 60 days for interest to accrue on that
outstanding payment while long term options are reviewed, not
including selling the units, to deal with the projected cash flow
problems; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion
carried.
PARKING CONSULTANT
Assistant City Manager Mitchell reminded Council they approved
$25,000 during budget hearing for a parking consultant to work on
the parking structure at the Rio Grande and Bell Mountain.
Mitchell told Council staff has completed and put out a qualific-
ations statement. The city received about 15 qualification
statements, reviewed those and narrowed it down to 6. Mitchell
said these 6 were invited to Aspen to make proposals; the city
received 4 proposals and interviewed the consultants last week.
Staff is recommended RML, which is a planning and design firm in
Denver working with Gibson Reno, as a local architect, and has
included a financial consulting firm as well as a firm that did
the majority of the work on the transportation element, as part
of the team.
Mitchell told Council two proposals came in at $35,000, one at
$56,000. Mitchell told Council the proposal included that the
budget was 535,000. Mitchell said the reason staff is recommend-
ing the f i rm at 550 , 000 i s that the process they detailed to the
city will carry this project from the point of hiring the firm to
the point of an election. Mitchell told Council the available
budget is 525,000 from the city plus 515,000 from RFTA. The
consultants can work within that but will lose the end of the
process at the election. Mitchell told Council the consultants
are looking both at the Rio Grande and Bell Mountain sites.
Mayor Stirling said the consultants are in a position to do the
work for 540,000 and that ought to be the city's ceiling.
Councilman Gassman said he does not want to spend more than was
budgeted. Councilman Tuite asked what portion of the 550,000 can
be used if the parking structure is approved, like preliminary
site work. Mitchell said all the information will be usef ul to
develop construction documents and financing. Mitchell said it
will not be work that will lessen the actual cost of the parking
structure.
Councilman Isaac moved to allocate another $5,000 and request
another 55,000 from RFTA to support the parking structure study;
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seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. Councilman Tuite said he thinks
RFTA will come up with the entire $10,000. Councilman Isaac
withdrew his motion.
Councilman Isaac moved to request from RFTA $25,000 to help fund
the parking study; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. Councilman
Isaac amended his motion to include authorizing the city manager
to execute the contract as soon as possible; seconded by Council-
woman Fallin.
Councilman Gassman pointed out this is all the city's money. It
was clear how much money the city had and that is how much should
be spent. Councilman Tuite said he sees a definite need in town
for a parking structure, and does not want to see a "no" vote at
an election because the city has not done the background work.
Councilman Tuite said he is prepared to go to $50,000 to get a
comprehensive look at a parking structure. Mitchell told
Council this group included a lot of citizen involvement in their
proposal.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Gassman and Mayor
Stirling. Motion carried.
RESOLUTION - Highway 82 EIS
Councilman Tuite said since Council passed the resolution regard-
ing the entrance to Aspen and the EIS, people have contacted him
regarding their concerns about eliminating the straight shot from
the EIS. Councilman Tuite said the Council's resolution is not
going to stop the highway department from looking at the straight
shot; because of the federal funding involved, the highway
department has to look at everything. Councilman Tuite said he
voted for the existing alignment because of his concerns.
Councilman Tuite agreed that every alternative should be looked
at. Councilman Tuite said he would prefer to tell the highway
department what the speed should be coming into town. Councilman
Tuite said he would prefer the highway department look at all
approaches and that the Council's resolution include the speed
limit coming into town.
Jay Hammond, city engineer, said the resolution did not specify
a speed limit but did request the highway department consider
flexible design alternatives, including lower speeds, narrow
alignments. Councilman Tuite said the city knows what the speed
limit in town is and would like to see the resolution include
that the Council finds 25 mph an acceptable speed into town.
Mayor Stirling recommended continuing with that clear recommenda-
tion and give little alternative. The speed limit might be 30 or
35 at the Maroon Creek bridge, and the speed limit has to be 25
mph at the Castle Creek bridge. Councilman Gassman said he likes
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the idea of telling the highway department what the city wants
the speed to be. Councilman Gassman said he would also like it
clear if the highway department is going to study the straight in
approach, it is on their own without agreement of the city.
Mayor Stirling said the resolution agrees with that view, if the
highway studies that approach, they are going against the
recommendation of the Council.
Councilman Gassman said where the speed limit is reduced is where
the back up starts. The back up is not caused by the size of the
highway. Councilman Tuite said the resolution he would like to
see would state while the highway department has to look at all
the approaches, the city Council strongly recommends the existing
alignment be looked at hard and that the Council wants a 25 mph
entrance into town as of Castle Creek. Councilman Tuite said
this addresses the speed limit and the entrance. Councilman
Gassman said the highway department asked Council to comment, and
there are only two things he wants them to look at. Mayor
Stirling suggested adding to the resolution that the speed limit
be no more than 25 mph at Castle Creek.
Councilman Tuite moved that the resolution be amended for the
highway EIS study to state while Council recognizes the EIS will
look at all existing alignments and entrance into town, we
prefer the existing alignment and that any entrance be such that
25 mph speed limit be possible as of Castle Creek; seconded by
Councilman Isaac.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Gassman and Mayor
Stirling. Motion carried.
Councilman Gassman requested that the session to evaluate the
city/county manager be rescheduled as he will not be in town
February 15th. Council rescheduled this February 23 at 5:00
p. m.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to approve the consent calendar;
seconded by Councilman Isaac. The consent calendar is (a)
Appointing Don Gilbert to NMPP; (b) Liquor License Renewal-
Shooter's Saloon; (c) 1010 Ute Avenue Exemption from GMP Expira-
tion; (d) Acceptance of Property Dedication - Marqusee; (e)
Reorganization of Agenda - Consent Calendar; (f) Waiver of Banner
Fee - Sister Cities; (g) Minutes - January 11, 1988. All in
favor, motion carried.
City Manager Bob Anderson told Council Governor Romer made a
presentation on his program for highways. The Governor has
$57,000,000 for highway 82. The Governor is seeking municipal
support for a financial package that will make that possible.
Anderson said the legislators he spoke to had a glum view of
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anything passing this legislative session. The CML staff
concurred there is a very slim chance of anything passing this
session. Anderson said the county f eels it would be premature to
urge an HOV until the city and county get the results of the
$20,000 study. Anderson said if a delegation goes to see the
Governor, the tack should be that the city wants to see something
pass and how can the city help get something through the legisla-
ture. Councilwoman Fallin said since the Governor is already in
favor of highway 82, it would be better to spend the city's
energy talking to key legislators. Councilwoman Fallin recom-
mended the city work with the legislative committee that oversees
the highways. Councilman Isaac agreed the money is being held by
the legislature and that is where the city should spend their
energy.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adjourn at 8:50 p.m.; seconded by
Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
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Kathryn Koch, City Clerk
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