HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19880523Regular Meeting Aspen City Council May 23, 1988,
PROCLAMATION - Public Health Day 1
PROCLAMATION - Older Coloradans Month 1
CITIZEN PARTICI PATION 1
COUNCILMEMBER C OMMENTS 2
ORDINANCE #15, SERIES OF 1988 - Adoption of New Zoning Maps 3
ORDINANCE #16, SERIES OF 1988 - Newspaper Racks 7
ORDINANCE #19, SERIES OF 1988 - Refunding Water Bonds 8
ORDINANCE #20, SERIES OF 1988 - Amending to Section 11-
Fi replaces and Gas Logs 8
ORDINANCE #22, SERIES OF 1988 - Amending Section 3, Ordi-
nance #30, 1985 15
LIQUOR LICENSE HEARING - Aspen Comedy Lift 15
RFTA FINAL 1987 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION 16
CASTLERIDGE REN T INCREASE 17
SPECIAL EVENT G UIDELINES 17
REQUEST TO USE CITY PROPERTY - Wing Ding '88 18
RESOLUTION #9, SERIES OF 1988 - Annexation Element 19
MALL LEASES 20
700 EAST MAIN - Ordinance #24, Final Plat and Vesting 22
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Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with
Councilmembers Isaac, Fallin and Gassman present.
PROCLAMATION - Public Health Day
Mayor Stirling and Council declared Wednesday, June 1, 1988, as
Colorado Public Health Day in Aspen and encouraged the continued
promotion of a healthful environment and society through efforts
of the Colorado Public Health Association. Tom Dunlop, environ-
mental health department director, told Council the 50th anniver-
sary of the Colorado Public Health Association will take place in
Aspen June 1 - 3 and he will present this proclamation at that
time.
PROCLAMATION - Older Coloradans Month
Mayor Stirling and Council proclaimed the month of May as Older
Coloradans Month. Mayor Stirling said people need to use fully
the talents, creativity and experience of older citizens and to
encourage maximum oP~ __ .._....,ri,rV ivL ~.~~C~L involvement in regular
employment, volunteer service, civic affairs and all aspects of
community life. Marty Ames, director of senior services,
accepted the proclamation and invited Council to a picnic
celebrating Older Americans Month. Ms. Ames told Council there
was a conference held at the Community Center to discuss services
and needs in the community.
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
1. Richard Roth said the food and wine classic is coming to
Aspen as a special event. Roth said he has not been able to get
any clarification of how the city is participating. Roth said he
feels this is a great event f or the city; however, he is con-
cerned that it is a for-profit event sponsored by American
Express and Food and Wine magazine. Roth asked if the city is
being compensated for the use of Wagner Park for this event.
Bill Efting, leisure services director, told Council the city
receives a damage deposit of $250; any damage over that, the
sponsor would have to fix. Councilman Isaac said the Resort
Association helps to put this event on and does get paid for it.
Councilman Isaac said this event does bring a lot of money to the
community.
2. Kiefer Mendenhall presented pictures of the Rio Grande trail
where posts have been put up with "No Trespassing" signs put
across the right-of-way. Rocks have been bulldozed into placed.
Mendenhall said he believes this is public property and cannot be
blocked off in that manner. People use this area for walking,
running and horseback riding. Mendenhall requested that the city
have the rocks and plantings removed from this area. Mayor
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Stirling said the city would have to determine what is the right-
of-way and what is not.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct the city manager to look into
this, find out the status, and report back as soon as possible;
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Councilman Gassman said he does not think this is public property
but was traded in a development.
All in favor, motion carried.
3. Perry Harvey requested a work session with Council and
P & Z. Harvey told Council he has been doing research on the
proposed skating rink and park. Harvey said he has a lot of
issues regarding rezoning, uses, winter and summer, insurance.
Harvey said he would like review the issues with the city.
Council scheduled this for Wednesday, June 1, 1988, at 5:00 p.m.
4. Mari Peyton asked about the proposed work on the alley
behind Rubey Park. Assistant City Manager Mitchell said money
has been appropriated for this but it has not been scheduled
because of the weather. It will be done this summer.
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS
1. Councilwoman Fallin congratulated Mayor Stirling and
Councilman Isaac on being elected delegates to the National
Democratic Convention in July.
2. Mayor Stirling said there is a Snowmass/Maroon Bells
wilderness paper that has been written. The period for comment
ends May 23, today. Mayor Stirling said the local forest
representative has agreed to extend that period. Mayor Stirling
said he would circulate the draft to Council, if they have an
interest in commenting. Mayor Stirling said this paper has to do
with issues like the commercialization of Maroon Bells, dogs in
the wilderness areas. Mayor Stirling said if the forest service
will extend the comment period, Council can comment on it at the
first meeting in June.
3. Mayor Stirling said there is a report on the contribution of
skiing to the Colorado economy. The city paid for part of this
report and the report is available to Council.
4. Mayor Stirling urged staff to coordinate the paving program
to be done before the high season. City Manager Bob Anderson
said almost all paving planned is in the Galena street improve-
ment project and will be done before or after the high season.
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Bruce Abel, RFTA, told Council they are turning the money for the
paving back over to the engineering department for completion.
5. City Manager Bob Anderson requested a special Council
meeting Monday, June 6 to complete the contract for the Galena
street project, reports on the parking structure and ice garden,
and scheduling a special election August 9th.
Mayor Stirling moved to have a special meeting June 6, 1988 from
5 p.m. to 8 p.m.; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor,
motion carried.
6. Councilman Isaac suggested the bar at the golf course be
closed by 9 p.m. to not disturb the people 1 iving at the Red
Roof. Mayor Stirling said people can play golf until 9 p.m. and
it is important to have a concession available. Councilwoman
Fallin said the bar is far away and won't disturb people.
Council was not interested in pursuing closing the bar at 9 a.m.
7. Mayor Stirling said he will go with City Manager Bob
Anderson to the sanitation board meeting June 7th.
8. City Manager Bob Anderson told Council he will be attending
the International City Manager Association conference on resort
towns.
Councilman Isaac moved to approve the consent agenda; seconded by
Councilwoman Fallin. The consent agenda is minutes May 5, 9,
1988; liquor license renewal - Aspen Art Museum. All in favor,
motion carried.
ORDINANCE #15, SERIES OF 1988 - Adoption of New Zoning Maps
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing.
Alan Richman, planning director, told Council these are being
redone because a lot of zone districts have been changed as part
of the code re-write. Some districts have been eliminated; some
districts have been renamed. Richman said this is an opportunity
to look at the zoning maps and make sure all the references are
updated. Richman said there are some publicly-owned properties
are that incorrectly zoned.
Richman pointed out the areas zoned L-1, L-2 have been eliminated
and combined into the L/TR district. No new property is being
zoned L/TR. Richman told Council the L-3 zone district has been
renamed Lodge preservation (LP). Richman reminded Council staff
has committed to looking at the parcels zoned SPA and eliminate
those that did not need that overlay category. Richman said the
reason for the SPA zoning is if a parcel is still in a holding
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category or it requires the use or density variation. Richman
pointed out the Smuggler Mobile Home park is an example of a
property that does not need the SPA designation anymore and can
be accommodated by existing zone districts.
Richman said the fire station and jail are both zoned public/SPA.
Richman told Council in the previous code all public properties
were processed by the SPA. The new code states that public
properties are set by the PUD process. Richman said when the
city is dealing with publicly zoned land, they know the uses but
do not know the setback, FARs, etc. Richman suggested that the
fire station and jail be zoned public, which will allow them to
be processed by a PUD.
Richman said the Koch lumber property was annexed into the city
and zoned R-15. It was privately owned land, and there was a
review process for that property. Richman recommended Koch be
rezoned park. P & Z is recommending this land be rezoned public.
P & Z feels Koch is a property for which many uses are being con-
templated and if it is designated as a park, it will be impos-
sible it to be used as employee housing. Richman said staff
feels the approved master plan for Koch property is as a park.
Councilman Gassman moved that the Koch property be designated
park; seconded by Mayor Stirling.
Mari Peyton said she was a minority on the P & Z wanting this
designated as park. Ms. Peyton said this is an example of trying
to target open space to solve community problems. Ms. Peyton
said employee housing problems should be solved by looking at
properties that are already developed. Ms. Peyton said this
property was acquired by efforts of the open space committee
negotiating with the Roberts hotel development in a trade for
city-owned property on Mill street and f or Dean street. Mayor
Stirling agreed there was a strong feeling on Council at the time
to do a trade and not to do any street vacations outright.
Norma Dolle told Council she was on the open space committee at
that time, and they felt this property would be open space and
would be a park. Ms. Dolle said she would like to see this
property retained as a park and not turned into development. Si
Coleman supported the zoning of the Koch property as park and
said the support for park among the Council members who voted for
this is a continuing obligation of the city. Richard Roth said
he would like to see the city keep their options open in order to
consider this for employee housing. Roth said if this is kept as
open, it may be for tourists only because there are no local
people left living in town.
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Richman told Council a public designation is for public or
community facilities, like a fire station, jail or library;
buildings that the city might build to support the community.
Land that is to be kept in open space for passive or active
recreation would be zoned park. Richman said he feels it is no
more difficult to go from park to employee housing than from
public to employee housing if employee housing is the appropriate
use and voters approve of that use. Bil Dunaway said it is more
psychologically difficult to go from park to another zone.
Dunaway said Council should keep some flexibility because public
housing is becoming a greater problem than the lack of open
space.
Councilman Isaac said he would prefer the public zone. There are
two large open space parcels within two blocks of this area.
Councilman Isaac said there is a large need for employee housing;
this is a good location for low cost housing. This parcel could
be used for both housing and park. Councilwoman Fallin suggested
this be zoned SPA to keep the options open. Richman said the
current designation of the Koch property is R-15, which is not
appropriate. The staff felt park zoning is most consistent with
the master plan. Richman said he is concerned about SPA because
is raises as many questions as any zone. Councilwoman Fallin
said it is a large parcel that could have a couple of uses on it,
like an extension of the trailhead and employee housing.
Councilwoman Fallin said this parcel is in a high density area
and is appropriate for employee housing.
Mayor Stirling said the spirit in which the Council negotiated
this trade was as a key park and open for access to the mountain.
Councilman Gassman said this discussion is about zoning, and the
entire town is zoned f or housing. Employee housing can be built
all over the county; there are very few sites that are zoned for
open space.
Councilman Gassman withdrew his motion; Mayor Stirling withdrew
his second.
Councilman Isaac moved to leave the parcel R-15 for the time
being; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Councilman Isaac said at some point the city will have to plan
this parcel and the city can just leave it R-15 until then.
Councilmembers Isaac and Fallin in favor; Councilman Gassman and
Mayor Stirling opposed. Motion NOT carried.
Councilman Isaac moved to zone the Koch parcel public; seconded
by Councilwoman Fallin. Councilmembers Isaac and Fallin in
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favor; Councilman Gassman and Mayor Stirling opposed. Motion NOT
carried.
Richman told Council the effective date of the new zoning code is
May 25, and Council needs to adopt new zoning maps to match the
code. Richman suggested this specific issue be brought back for
resolution separate from the ordinance. Mayor Stirling said the
Roch parcel is currently zoned R-15 and adopting Ordinance #15,
1988, would leave this parcel R-15.
Richman told Council currently Wagner and Rubey are zoned park.
Rubey is a public facility as a transit center and would be more
appropriately zoned public. Council agreed. Richman pointed out
a parcel on the river near the Rio Grande parcel has been zoned
R-6 and has not been used for residential purposes. There are
two other parcels zoned office. Richman said this would bring
the entire Rio Grande parcel into public/SPA zoning. Councilman
Isaac asked if storage of snow is allowed under the public/SPA
zone. Richman said it is allowed as a community facility. The
entire array of uses on the Rio Grande are allowed. Richman said
Cap's has been left out and is zoned office. Richman told
Council P & Z has been considered some type of gas station or
local serving use in conjunction with the public facility on the
Rio Grande. Council agreed.
Richman told Council some area on King street should be zoned R-
15 rather than R-6. There is a correction on the Moses property
which should be R-15/PUD. These are both corrections, not
rezonings.
Richman said the Shapery property should be changed from S/C/I to
park. The Little Cloud parcels should be rezoned as park. The
Art Museum is zoned H and should be zoned public/H. Richman
pointed out two parcels the city has received; one in the
Creektree and one in the 1010 Ute Avenue subdivisions. These
should both be designated as park. Richman said the Crestahaus
and Alpine Lodge east of town are both now shown as LP.
Richman pointed out the Marolt and Thomas properties have various
zonings. One on the Marolt is R-15/PUD/SPA, which staff is
suggesting should be changed to park.
Mayor Stirling moved to designate all of Thomas and Marolt as
park zone; seconded by Councilman Gassman.
Councilman Isaac said the southern corner of the Marolt parcel
was donated to the city as a possible site f or employee housing.
Councilman Isaac said he would like to see this preserved as a
site f or the M.A.A. housing. Richman said the R-15 designation
does not give any guidance in dealing with planning for the
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parcel and is not doing what the parcel was intended for.
Richman said R-15 is misguiding people. Councilman Isaac asked
if the park zone would be a barrier f or the use of the house on
the Marolt property. Richman said as a caretaker house, the zone
would be all right. This would make childcare on the Marolt
property a problem. Nick McGrath told Council the lease will be
terminated this June as Ruth Stone does not want to struggle with
this location again. McGrath said this has been a terrific
school location. City Manager Bob Anderson said there have been
access problems to this property. Bruce Abel said the Marolt
property is under consideration for an entrance to town and asked
if the community wants to put additional hurdles on the con-
sideration of this entrance by designating it park.
Richard Roth said he feels park zone is too restrictive and the
city needs to keep their options open. Roth said he supports
both open space and employee housing, and this is a great area
for both. Councilwoman Fallin said part of the Marolt property
was purchased with sixth penny funds. The Thomas property was
purchased with seventh penny funds, which is transportation.
Councilwoman Fallin said the city should leave their options open
on these two properties.
Councilman Gassman and Mayor Stirling in favor; Councilmembers
Isaac and Fallin opposed. Motion NOT carried.
Councilman Isaac moved to leave the property as it is; seconded
by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, with the exception of
Councilman Gassman. Motion carried.
Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #15, Series of 1988;
seconded by Councilman Isaac. Roll call vote; Councilmembers
Isaac, yes; Gassman, yes; Fallin, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes.
Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #16, SERIES OF 1988 - Newspaper Racks
Mayor Stirling moved to table Ordinance #16, Series of 1988,
until June 13, 1988; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Mayor Stirling told Council CCLC members have requested this be
tabled until they are able to attend the meeting. Bil Dunaway
asked if the staff has discussed this with newspaper vendors.
Council asked staff to send copies of the ordinance to newspaper
vendors.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilwoman Fallin. Motion
carried.
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ORDINANCE #19, SERIES OF 1988 - Refunding Water Bonds
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing.
Cindy Shaf er-Wilson, finance director, told Council the city has
obtained more savings than anticipated at first reading. There
will be 5293,000 of present value saving; $207,000 of this will
be realized in 1988. Ms. Shafer-Wilson said there were savings
because of the timing when the issue hit the market and on the
cost because the insurance on the bonds was at a low rate. Ms.
Shaf er-Wilson told Council the city's bond rating was raised to
an A by Moody's earlier this spring. One reason is that Aspen's
sales tax revenue keeps increasing. Ms. Shafer-Wilson pointed
out this ordinance does contain all the final rates. Ms. Shafer-
Wilson told Council this issue is 58,040,000. Dan O'Meara,
Kutak, Rock and Campbell, told Council if the city issues less
than 510,000,000 a year in debt, it is a more attractive issue.
Mayor Stirling said this ordinance states that the city will not
issue more than 510,000,000 in 1988. What would this do to an
issuance for a parking structure. O'Meara said this ordinance
states it is Council's intention not to issue more than
510,000,000 and there would be 51,900,000 left in 1988. O'Meara
said if Council issues more than 510,000,000 in 1988, it will
change the character of this bond issue so that the banks lose
the advantage of this issue.
Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #19, Series of 1988,
on second reading; seconded by Councilman Isaac. Roll call vote;
Councilmembers Isaac, yes; Gassman, yes; Fallin, yes; Mayor
Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #20, SERIES OF 1988 - Amending to Section 11 - Fire-
places and Gas Logs
Tom Dunlop, environmental health department director, said this
legislation will have a dramatic impact on residents and visitors
in Aspen. Dunlop said this was drafted after many months of
study that have implicated fireplaces and wood burning stoves as
a culprit to air pollution. Dunlop told Council this is one of
many steps that will be necessary to offer healthful air and to
comply with federal regulations. Dunlop said the city and county
are faced with deciding their own future as relates to compliance
with the PM 10 regulations. Dunlop said if the city does not
take the appropriate corrective action now, the federal govern-
ment has the ability to develop a compliance plan for Aspen,
possibly with little local input.
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Dunlop said Council and the Commissioners have chosen to assume a
leadership role to reduce unhealthful levels of particulates by
adopting this ordinance. Dunlop said varying part 4 of this
ordinance was accomplished to protect this ordinance from defeat
on second reading. Dunlop told Council he is confident that the
conclusions reached by the Environmental Protection Agency and
the state health department based on their computer models will
be correct and Aspen will be in violation of PM 10 standards.
Dunlop said rather than losing the conversion upon sale section,
he would ask the Council to delay the implementation date until
after the state has completed the PM 10 monitoring program next
spring. Dunlop said conclusive data may not be available until
next year or the year after. Dunlop pointed out that trends
develop, weather patterns must be considered, technology may
change which would allow wood burning with no emissions at all.
Dunlop said Council should make the decision regarding the
compliance date of the conversion upon sale section.
Lee Cassin, environmental health department, reminded Council
this ordinance is a result of Council determining the local
implementation plan to be the most appropriate way to solve the
PM 10 health problems. Ms. Cassin pointed out this ordinance
and the local implementation plan are based on 13-1/2 years of
total particulate monitoring. This is continuous data represent-
ing whole years of monitoring beginning in 1975. Ms. Cassin said
PM 10 is one part of the total particulates; it is not a separate
type of pollution. Unhealthful particulate levels are made
unhealthful by the PM 10 component of it. Ms. Cassin said the
fact that PM 10 monitoring just began this winter does not
discount the fact that Aspen has had unhealthy particulate levels
for some time. Ms. Cassin told Council Aspen has had unhealthful
levels of particulates in most of the past years.
Ms. Cassin said there have been some questions about how the
standards get set. The EPA reviews all the studies they can.
Then an independent body of scientists (National Academy of
Sciences) reviews all the data and studies on health, decreases
in lung function and increases in pollution and determine which
levels are associated with health effects and those that do not
hav a any evidence of association with health effects. That is
how it has been determined that Aspen's particulate levels are in
the unhealthful category. Ms. Cassin told Council the National
Academy of Sciences recommended the EPA make a PM 10 standard
much stricter than the one proposed.
Ms. Cassin said no one study of PM 10 will prove to everyone's
satisfaction that peopl a will be effected by a certain level .
Ms. Cassin said all studies have pointed to wood burning as a
significant source of pollution in Aspen. The best data indi-
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Cates that wood burning is responsible for 57 percent of the PM
10 pollution and sanding is responsible for 36 percent. Ms.
Cassin recommended that Council act now on the available data.
Ms. Cassin said staff would recommend waiting f or more data if
Aspen did not have a health problem now. However, the levels of
particulates are unhealthful now. Ms. Cassin reminded Council
the city is committed to doing everything they can to reduce
sanding emissions. Unfortunately there are no solutions at hand
which will solve that problem.
Ms. Cassin told Council the data the city will receive in the
summer of 1989 will not be definitive and will have an error of
at least 20 percent. Ms. Cassin said there is one piece of data
that was not available in the past. When the state projected the
PM 10 levels, they assumed half of the total particulates would
be PM 10 materials. So far the actual measured ratio has been 70
percent of the total in the PM 10 category.
Ms. Cassin said controls on new fireplaces will do nothing to
lower the PM 10 levels that are unhealthful now. Ms. Cassin told
Council some questions have come up about voluntary no burn days
and voluntary public education programs. Ms. Cassin recommended
these programs be continued and expanded. These are not an
alternative to other programs in the local implementation
program. Staff recommends both approaches be pursued. Ms.
Cassin said it is hard to get data on how much can be gained from
a voluntary program. Ms. Cassin told Council the Denver Water
Board and State Health Department have done voluntary programs.
The Water Board found no compliance with people watering on days
when they are supposed to; however, they may have gotten a 7
percent water reduction use because people are more aware. The
State Health Department has found the same thing with the better
air campaign. Ms. Cassin said Denver feels they may have gotten
as much as a 9 percent reduction from people being more aware.
Ms. Cassin said the city cannot predict or measure high pollution
days but a voluntary program could be an awareness program. Ms.
Cassin said there has been some questions about inserts. Staff
recommends that inserts not be used as an alternative to gas
logs. Certified inserts are designed solely f or heat, they are
very efficient heaters. Fireplaces are almost always not used
for heat because they are very inefficient. Ms. Cassin said if
fireplaces with inserts are used with their doors open, they are
high polluting fireplaces. Inserts could be removed and this
could not be detected. All inserts become high pollution stoves
after a number of years if they are not carefully maintained.
Ms. Cassin told Council a certified insert is very difficult to
operate cleanly.
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Mayor Stirling said the alternatives are to present the ordinance
as written with Section 4 included and the start date November 1
for transfers of property being required to replace their dirty
fireplaces. The second alternative would be to wait until
September 1989 with the same ordinance. Fred Gannett, city
attorney's office, pointed out in the second alternative includes
within 5 years all fireplaces in the city have to be changed upon
sale or within 5 years. This ordinance also includes that
Council may, by resolution, delay implementation of the date on
sale pending studies of clean air data. The third alternative
has no section to address upgrading of fireplaces. The Council
would address this as a separate ordinance.
Councilman Isaac asked if it would be up to the seller or the
buyer to remove the fireplaces and stoves. Gannett said it is up
to the seller to show to the environmental health department that
upon transfer the stove or fireplace has been upgraded. Gannett
said the seller will have to take an affidavit to the environmen-
tal health department. If the seller has complied, they will get
a stamp which allows the buyer to take the deed to the Clerk and
Recorder. Gannett told Council the affidavit could be inspected
by staff if Council desired.
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing.
Mayor Stirling said there is a letter for the record on behalf of
the Gant, Aspen Alps, Aspen Square, Aspen Club, Clarendon,
Chateau Dumont, and 8 condominiums managed by Coates, Reid &
Waldron from Nick McGrath. Nick McGrath said the most onerous
provision is to install gas logs on sale provision. McGrath
recommended that Council take out section 4 at this time.
McGrath said the expense for replacing units far away f rom gas
lines could be over $4,000. McGrath said adopting this section
for November 1988 does not give the public and condominium
associations time to figure out what to do. McGrath said it
would be cheaper to comply with the law all at once and bring gas
lines in. The requirement to do this for the first unit sold
eliminates this as a possibility.
McGrath said he will bring Council more data about valuations;
there are regulations about taking property. McGrath told
Council in New York, appraisers use a value of $17,000 per
fireplace. McGrath said he does not know what the value of a
fireplace is in Pitkin County. McGrath requested Council delete
section 4, and condominiums will work with staff to see if they
can come up with a better alternative than sale of the first
unit.
Si Coleman, Clean Air Board, told Council the membership of the
Board has changed and has not acted on the local implementation
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plan. Coleman said the Board should have the opportunity to
discuss this and requested Council postpone their vote on these
ordinances so the Clean Air Board can make some recommendations.
Rick Lindner told Council he has not been able to get a lot of
adequate, updated information about gas logs from Rocky Mountain
Natural Gas or Public Service Company. Lindner said the industry
is changing and in 1 or 2 years there will be better installa-
tions. Lindner said this ordinance may be premature. Lindner
told Council 95 percent of the visitors do not think there is an
air pollution problem in Aspen. These people probably could be
convinced to comply with a voluntary program. Lindner said in
the future there will be a inversion kit for fireplaces which
will close the flu when fires are not allowed.
Molly Campbell, Gant, told Council she has tried to follow the
process through the Clean Air Board. Ms. Campbell said she does
not remember the transfer on sale of property being included in
the local implementation plan. Ms. Cassin said this was added
before the local implementation plan was adopted by Council.
Ms. Campbell told Council voluntary programs do work in Aspen;
the Gant has been extremely successful in substantially reducing
the wood consumption. Ms. Campbell told Council she measures
this by the amount of wood that is left. Ms. Campbell said Gant
visitors consume 50 percent less wood this year than in the
past. Ms. Campbell told Council the Gant did a thorough public
information program with the guests. Ms. Campbell encouraged
Council to keep working on voluntary programs.
Roy urged Council not to make any hasty decisions. Roy said the
city ought to go to a voluntary program. Roy said he feels gas
is very dangerous. Roy said Council should give this more time.
Alan Bush recommended Council do away with all 3 of the proposals
and replace them with a voluntary approach or voluntary/mandatory
usage reduction rather than the elimination of future and
conversion of fireplaces. Bush said there are a number of
approaches that have not been tried that would be much less
expensive. Bush said in essence this is taking away of people's
property. Bush said this is a tourist community and Aspen
competes for the guest dollars. People do not have to come to
Aspen. This would be asking people to go elsewhere and enjoy the
type of vacation experience they want. Bush said there are
economic impacts to property owners both in the conversion costs
and in the reduction in value.
Don reminded Council in the smoking ordinance there was clear
evidence against smoking and a large segment of the community in
f avor of this ordinance. Don said he is not in favor of this
proposed ordinance. Don said Aspen is being scared by the
federal government. Don said the city can use a lot of education
to promote uses of stoves and fireplaces. Don said the Council
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should not pass any kind of ordinance unless they have indis-
putable evidence that this will hurt the health of the community.
Don said stoves are a source of heat, if used properly, and can
cut the electricity bill.
David Danforth said the east part of town is polluted every
single night during the winter. It is difficult to breathe and
one's eyes sting. Danforth said it is time to let the tourists
know that Aspen does have a pollution problem. Danforth said he
does not believe that voluntary controls work in the city.
Danforth said the taking of property rights is not as important
as taking of rights to be able to breath in this community.
Bob George urged Council to reconsider the date of the transfer
provision. George said if the city finds fireplaces are not a
problem, this will put a financial burden on a select group of
people. This program is either right for the community or it
isn't. George urged Council to wait for the outcome of more
studies. John Faulkner suggested a publicized work session with
the Clean Air Board on this topic alone. Coleman said these
ordinances are not the way to solve the problem.
Councilman Isaac agreed that this ordinance should apply to
everyone or no one. Councilman Isaac said going after transfer
of property is not the best method. Councilman Isaac said he
would like to approve the ordinance without section 4. This will
put a cap on how many stoves there are now and will give the
testing equipment another year to get more complete data on PM
10.
Mayor Stirling said he believes there is a danger in the pollu-
tion problem and this is a health, safety and welfare issue.
Mayor Stirling said a dramatic move by Council will make a more
healthy environment. Mayor Stirling said he feels that clean air
is Aspen's greatest "come on". The city has had a lot of
discussions about this issue. Voluntary efforts should be
continued but the city has had voluntary programs for years and
they have not brought about the positive effect that is needed.
Mayor Stirling said he prefers to pass Ordinance #20 and to
change section 4 to require everyone to conform within a period
of time.
Councilman Gassman said earlier the Council was told contribution
of the fireplaces was about 70 percent of the problem and sanding
was about 30 percent. Now the relative contribution of fire-
places is going down and sanding is going up. Councilman Gassman
said the possibilities are that the programs are having an effect
or that the numbers are changing by themselves. Either case
indicates that the problem will solve itself. Suzanne Caskey,
Clean Air Board, said feels this means the city has to do the
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best they can and use the best technology with every source of
pollution. Ms. Caskey said Councilman Gassman's vigilance on
sanding has started new programs. Ms. Caskey pointed out the
Clean Air Board is not recommending that fireplaces be torn out.
Ms. Caskey said the city is telling people to use the best fuel
and cleanest way. The ordinance has left open if there is
cleaner technology, it can be used.
Councilman Isaac moved to adopt Ordinance #20, as proposed in 1B
eliminating Section 4. Motion DIES for lack of a second.
Mayor Stirling moved to adopt Ordinance #20, Series of 1988, with
a section 4 not just pertaining to transfer of property but
pertain to all property owners who have fireplaces in the city of
Aspen to conform with items 1 through 7 , effective Septembe r 1,
1989
Ms. Cassin pointed out version lA may accomplish what the Mayor
is proposing to do. Full conformity would be required by 5 years
from 1989. Gannett said the city would be requiring conformance
either on sale of a property or by September 1, 1994, whichever
comes f i r st .
Mayor Stirling moved to adopt Ordinance #20, Series of 1988, as
written and amend Section 4 stating that all owners of real
property containing fireplaces or solid fuel burning devices on
or before September 1, 1994, should retrofit all fireplaces with
ga s log s and ga s service to f i r epl ace or replace stoves with
certified devices in the f ollowing manner; 1 through 8 with some
amendments; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Mayor Stirling asked if this would work under the dictates of the
environmental protection agency. Ms. Cassin recommended Council
do what they think is right amount, submit it to the EPA and let
them decide. Mayor Stirling said in the next year, the city
should work on the economics of this, what kind of incentives the
city could give, if there will be economic incentives. Mayor
Stirling said starting June 1, 1988, all new construction will be
effected, which is making this change immediate. Mayor Stirling
said what troubles him about the motion is that people can wait
until the last minute before doing anything about the fireplaces.
Mayor Stirling withdrew his motion.
Mayor Stirling moved to table Ordinance #20, Series of 1988, to
June 13 and require the Clean Air Board to have a public hearing
on this ordinance and return to the Council with certain recom-
mendations; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
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Mayor Stirling said the purpose of his motion is not to move away
from passing this ordinance but to try and get a better balance
and see what can be done immediately. Mayor Stirling said it is
incumbent upon Council to take an assertive action to deal with
the air pollution problems. Councilman Isaac said he would like
to pass all of ordinance #20 except for Section 4 in order to
stop more fireplaces from being built and deal with section 4
later. Councilman Isaac said he would like to have a schedule of
eliminating existing fireplaces but would like to hav a an
incentive program and to step the program up year after year.
Mayor Stirling withdrew his motion.
Councilman Isaac moved to adopt Ordinance #20, Series of 1988, in
form 1B not including the abatement; seconded by Mayor Stirling.
Councilwoman Fallin said she would prefer to have a hearing on
the abatement. Councilwoman Fallin said she has a problem asking
people to put gas into their homes when they were told 10 years
ago to take natural gas out.
Councilman Isaac withdrew his motion.
Mayor Stirling moved to table this to June 27 and have the joint
Clean Air Board have a hearing on section 4 and report back to
Council; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Mayor Stirling said he would like the Clean Air Board to address
the time issue and abatement issue; how to have this apply
broadly, have it be effective sooner but in a reasonable time,
whether incentives are workable.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Gassman. Motion
carried.
ORDINANCE #22, SERIES OF 1988 - Amending Section 3, Ordinance
#30 , 1985
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. There were no com-
ments. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #22, Series of 1988,
on second reading; seconded by Councilman Isaac. Roll call vote;
Councilmembers Isaac, yes; Gassman, yes; Fallin, yes; Mayor
Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
LIQUOR LICENSE HEARING - Aspen Comedy Lift
Councilwoman Fallin moved to table to June 13, 1988; seconded by
Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
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RFTA FINAL 1987 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION
Bruce Abel, general manager RFTA, reminded Council all budget
amendments that are $10,000 and 10 percent after they are
approved by the RFTA Board have to be approved by the city and
county. The final figures for 1987 were reviewed by the RFTA
Board at their April meeting. Abel told Council on the operating
side of the budget, there were no variances that were grater than
10 percent and $10,000. Abel stated 1987 was a very successful
year. Due to the ability to come in under budget on expenses and
increased revenues because of sales tax and ridership, RFTA was
able to generate a $300,000 operating surplus in 1987.
Abel told Council on the capital side of the budget a number of
items did vary. On the unanticipated expenditure side, there
were expenditures relative to the final outcome of the fuel spill
at the maintenance facility during 1984. Funds were withheld
from the contractor as this proceeded through litigation to
determine the liability. The case was heard in March and the
determination was that RFTA owed the contract $166,000 that was
withheld. Abel said the county and RFTA will share in the cost
of the mitigation of the fuel spill.
On the unanticipated revenue side, there are increases on the
interest earnings on the capital fund, unexpected revenues from
the sale of surplus equipment, $30,000 funds not needed for Rubey
park and a corresponding decrease in the budget f or Rubey Park.
This was due to an inability to get the alley paving scheduled
last fall, and the funds are being returned to the city. Abel
told Council RFTA did get an engineering firm hired in 1987 for
the high occupancy vehicle lane study. The firm was hired and a
report expected in June 1988. This unappropriates the funds from
1987.
Abel said the funds not expended in 1987 for the bus maintenance
facility are f or the bus stop shelter project. Funds not spent
in park and ride were deobligated in 1987 and moved to 1988. The
lockers planned for Rubey park were budgeted in 1987 but were
received in 1988. This expense has been deobligated from 1987
and moved to 1988.
Councilman Isaac moved to approve the RFTA final 1987 supplemen-
tal budget appropriation; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All
in favor, motion carried.
Abel told Council RFTA anticipates expanding the van pool
program, continuing half hour headways on the down valley
routes, and are discussing with Glenwood Springs and Garfield
county about extensions down valley.
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CASTLERIDGE RENT INCREASE
Assistant City Manager Mitchell told Council Castleridge Assoc-
iates has submitted a rent increase in accordance with the
existing contract. Mitchell said he has reviewed all their
submittals and they meet the requirements of the contract.
Mitchell recommended in favor of the request for a 6.5 percent
rent increase across the board. Mitchell said the conditions of
approval are that Castleridge associates will set aside repair
and replacement reserve of 580,710. Castleridge Associates has
agreed to do that and to bring the land lease payments current,
which Council has suspended since February. Mitchell told
Council Castleridge Associates concurs with the recommendation.
Mitchell said staff has met with Castleridge to discuss long term
issues of cash flow problems due to the change in tax laws and
the effect this may have on rents. Mitchell said Castleridge
will be presenting proposals for staff to review. Councilman
Isaac asked if these rents include utilities. Tom Lacy said they
do not and the tenants pay for electric. Water and trash is paid
for by Castleridge. Councilman Isaac asked who is responsible
for planting on the hillside. Mitchell answered that was part of
the landscaping attempted when the project was sold. Castleridge
is attempting to work on the landscaping for the entire project.
Councilman Isaac moved to approve the 6.5 percent rent increase
at Castleridge to be applied across the board; this approval is
conditioned upon replacement reserve being set aside in a
separate account in the amount of 580,710 to be applied to
maintenance problems that current exist (carpets, painting, and
roof problem s and revegetation of that hillside) and the land
lease payments being brought current (515,000 outstanding);
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Councilwoman Fallin asked if 580,000 is enough to do all the
items listed. Mitchell said that is all Castleridge is required
to do under the contract.
All in favor, motion carried.
SPECIAL EVENT GUIDELINES
Mayor Stirling said the CCLC has been working on these guide-
lines. The CCLC members have requested that this be tabled to
June 13th. Councilman Isaac said these guidelines do not say
anything about a sales tax license. The guidelines do not
address the small vendors, like musicians or people selling
balloons. Mayor Stirling said these guidelines are for special
event s as opposed to small vendors. Richard Roth told Council
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the Wine Classic is being advertised at $250 per head, which does
not include housing. Roth said if there are 1500 people attend-
ing, this will gross 5375,000. Roth asked how much is coming
back to the city for the use of a city park. Spence Videon, ARA,
said the event will contribute between 512,000 and 515,000 to the
city tax fund which is significant. Videon told Council he has
discussed with the sponsors making a contribution to the Founda-
tion; however, this is not a firm commitment.
Mayor Stirling moved to table the discussion of special event
guidelines to June 13, 1988; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Councilman Gassman said one reason this issue came up was because
of advertising and promotional items. These guidelines omit any
discussion of advertising. Mayor Stirling requested this be
addressed during the discussion.
All in favor, motion carried.
REQUEST TO USE CITY PROPERTY - Wing Ding '88
Patsy Malone, personnel director, told Council this event is
being held mainly in Snowmass. The organization has asked to
bring the event to Aspen one evening and a parade the following
day. Ms. Malone told Council the city has not received state
highway department approval for the parade; therefore, this is
not a discussion item at this meeting. The requests are to use
the Rio Grande park from 7 p.m. to midnight on Wednesday, August
3, and the adjacent public parking area from 6:00 p.m. until
midnight; a request that the city prepare and let them use the
snowmelt area for parking from 6 p.m. to midnight. The third
request is a closure of Mill street from Puppy Smith street to
Main street. Ms. Malone told Council the request has been
changed to a street closure from Puppy Smith street to Bleeker
street from 7 p.m. to midnight. The organization is also asking
for a brief closure of Main street in front of the Jerome for 40
minutes to put on a drill team performance.
Ms. Malone told Council all of these requests have been discussed
by staff and with RFTA. Ms. Malone said staff feels that these
requests can be accommodated with coordination. Ms. Malone said
the use of the snowmelt will require oiling the property. Mayor
Stirling asked about the theatre tent on the snowmelt property.
City Manager Bob Anderson said the theatre people have requested
some arrangements to make sure their tent does not get vandal-
ized.
Spence Videon, ARA, told Council this group goes all over the
country and has massive gatherings. Videon told Council this is
a motorcycle group. About one-third of them will sleep in Aspen,
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which is very beneficial to town, and will accrue sales tax
revenues. Videon said there are 5500 people. Snowmass developed
this group, and they would like to come to Aspen one night. This
will be a non-discriminatory, non-alcoholic event. The event is
open to the public for no fee.
Councilman Gassman said the community has spent years in develop-
ing a summer business based on M.A.A., ballet and theatre.
Councilman Gassman said summer tourists have been coming to town
for years and are committed to the arts. Councilman Gassman said
to put 5000 motorcycle riders in the midst of the summer season
runs counter to long term economic interest. Councilman Gassman
said this would be forgetting what the community has developed
into in the summer. Councilman Gassman said this conflicts with
what the community is and what the summer visitor wants.
Councilwoman Fallin agreed with Gassman and said this group
should stay at Snowmass with their motorcycles. Councilwoman
Fallin said this is a quiet community in the summer and she does
not want motorcycles here in the summer.
Videon said a one night event will not seriously offend Aspen's
guests. Videon said Aspen prides itself on being heterogeneous.
Videon said in the spirit of the things Snowmass does, Aspen has
a responsibility to assist and complement them. Videon pointed
out this is only 5 or 6 hours on one night and will not have a
negative impact. Videon said this is a mid-week function, not a
weekend function.
Councilman Isaac said variety is the spice of life. The group is
putting on a parade and having a party for the community and is
not costing the city any money. Councilman Isaac said this will
not upset the way of life in Aspen. Mayor Stirling said he likes
the diversity of events in Aspen. Mayor Stirling said this is
for a short period of time. The group has made a lot of plans in
advance and it is difficult to say no at this point. Mayor
Stirling suggested events like this be brought to Council
sooner. Mayor Stirling agreed with the sentiments expressed by
Councilmembers Fallin and Gassman, but in light of the groundwork
that has been laid, he is willing to make an exception.
Mayor Stirling moved to accept the street closures and uses of
public property on Wednesday, August 3; seconded by Councilman
Isaac. Councilman Isaac and Mayor Stirling in favor; Council-
members Gassman and Fallin opposed. Motion NOT carried.
RESOLUTION ~9, SERIES OF 1988 - Annexation Element
Mayor Stirling suggested Council schedule a work session to go
over this report. Councilman Gassman said he feels this is clear
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and includes everything Council has discussed. Mayor Stirling
said he would like to discuss recommendations that have been made
for targeted areas. Mayor Stirling said one guidelines is that
the city not annex any undeveloped territory. Mayor Stirling
said there is a way the city can annex undeveloped territory by
designating SPA in the interim.
Mayor Stirling moved to add this as a work session from 6 p.m. to
7 p.m. on Wednesday, June 1. All in favor, motion carried.
MALL LEASES
Mayor Stirling said there are 4 mall lease requests from the
Aspen Mine Company, Paragon, Red Onion, and the Grill. The Grill
is requesting to change from 10 to 12-1/2 feet. Additionally
there are requests for new mall leases for Pinocchio's and
Toro's. There is a recommendation that Toro's lease be for 7
feet into the mall rather than 10 feet. Assistant City Manager
Mitchell told Council after the study session with CCLC, they
looked at the mall leases, and they recommend approval of the 4
existing mall leases and the 2 new requests with conditions
indicated in the memorandum.
Councilwoman Fallin said she did not see the necessity for the
Grill to be exempt from the 10 feet, and they should be at 10
feet like everyone else.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to accept the mall leases for the Mine
Company, Red Onion and Paragon; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
All in favor, motion carried.
Councilwoman Fallin moved that the Grill be granted a mall lease
for a 10 foot maximum; seconded by Councilman Gassman.
Mickey Herron, representing the Grill, told Council the reasons
Council gave the Grill 12-1/2 feet was the configuration of the
restaurant. There are windows and trees in the space. Herron
said the Grill is located in a different area that the other
three mall leases and is not restricted by the streams and the
park on the other two malls. Herron said the 12-1/2 feet does
not offend anybody, and it does not make sense to tell the Grill
to cut back 2-1/2 feet. Herron said the other restaurants and
the trucks do not complain about this 12-1/2. Herron pointed out
the criteria adopted for 10 feet is not applicable to the Mill
street mall. Herron urged Council not to pick 10 feet as cast in
stone. Herron told Council the mall lease at the Grill has been
12-1/2 feet since the beginning. Herron said the city gets
revenue for this 12-1/2 feet. Herron said with the trees and
windows, the Grill does not have any more net feet than any other
mall space.
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Councilman Isaac said no one did complain about this and it
should be continued for this summer. Lita Heller said the Red
Onion mall space is very obnoxious to the adjacent property
owners. Customers bring dogs and bicycles which they put up
against windows and this does not make a nice element in the
mall. Kiefer Mendenhall said he would like to talk about all six
of the mall leases at once. Councilwoman Fallin said at the
work session, Council agreed the mall leases would be done for
this year. During the summer, the CCLC is to hold public
hearings to evaluate the mall leases. Mendenhall said one
suggestion is to have only one restaurant per side of the mall.
Mendenhall said if this is harmful to adjacent businesses,
allowing the mall leases for this summer is not benefit to a
retailer who will suffer during the summer. Mendenhall said he
would like Council to open this discussion up. Councilman Isaac
said he would stick to the decision made at the study session and
to allow these leases for this summer.
Councilman Gassman said he favored the 12-1/2 feet last year but
has been concerned about that since. Councilman Gassman said it
is not right to treat one business different from the others.
Herron said this is only 20 feet across. The other mall tenants
do not have a problem with this request. Herron reiterated the
net space is no different from the other lessees. Mayor Stirling
said he did not favor the 12-1/2 feet last year and is not
convinced by arguments to change it. Mayor Stirling said
everyone would like to be out in the mall. The city has an
ordinance which only allows restaurants in the mall, which
Council and CCLC have continued to support.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Isaac. Motion
carried.
Councilman Isaac moved to approve Toro's and Pinocchio's exten-
sion into the mall as outlined by the CCLC memorandum with a 45
degree angle 5 feet from the property line of Pinocchio's and a 7
foot maximum on Toro's; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Kiefer Mendenhall said no one disputes the advantage to Aspen of
having outdoor dining. Mendenhall said based on the criteria
for allowing restaurants onto the mall, the worst case scenario
based on the existing restaurants and food operations, every non-
re staurant business on the mall would be blocked off except a
few. Mendenhall said it is important for Council to take this
under consideration. The city could be painted into a corner by
dealing on each application on an ad hoc basis without looking at
the long term consequences. Mendenhall said this is the first
instance where there have been mall leases where some businesses
will be fenced off and pedestrian traffic will be pushed 10 to 15
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feet away from the windows. Mendenhall said he feels the policy
of allowing one restaurant per side should be pursued, which
allows some fairness and no business would be fully fenced off.
The desire to have the ambience of outside dining will be than
satisfied by having six restaurants on the mall, one per side.
Lita Heller said the location of Pinocchio's mall extension will
block the mall. This will be difficult for traffic. .Mendenhall
said there are no rules, and the implications are great.
Grey Young said the ordinance for sidewalk cafes needs to be
applied in a evenhanded way. Young said the city cannot single
out the new applicants and deny these applications without
rethinking the entire policy. Young said the evidence is not in
that there will be a negative impact on the bu s i ne s se s on the
mall from the restaurant extensions. Young said the city should
approve all the mall leases for this summer, and if there are
negative impacts, Council and CCLC should review these next year.
All in favor, motion carried.
700 EAST MAIN - Ordinance #24, Final Plat and Vesting
(Mayor Stirling left due to a conflict of interest) Cindy
Houben, planning office, said this request is to review the final
plat and first reading of an ordinance for vesting of rights for
the project. Ms. Houben said the project is basically as Council
saw it at conceptual. The P & Z added conditions that were
different from those put on by Council at conceptual level.
Ms. Houben reminded Council one of their conditions at conceptual
was that the corner park at Spring and Main would be accessible
to the public and would contain some benches. Ms. Houben said at
preliminary stage at P & Z, the applicant stated that wa s not
their intention and felt this should be used as private property.
P & Z determined it was not important that this park be acces-
sible to the public and that the benches outside in the public
right-of-way were fine. Ms. Houben said these benches will not
block the right-of-way.
Ms. Houben said Council wanted the applicant to look at the
number of parking spaces that may be reduced by the development
of this project. This was looked at at preliminary stage. Ms.
Houben said currently people park along Main street and Original
curve. P & Z had an alternative different from the one preferred
by the engineering department and the applicant. Ms. Houben said
in both of the alternatives 3 spaces are lost along Main and
Spring streets. Ms. Houben said the parking on Original Curve is
dangerous. Ms. Houben showed a plan outlined in blue. The State
Highway Department did not like the idea that the P ~ Z came up
with.
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Councilman Isaac asked how the parking plans would effect the
sidewalk plan along Main street. Person told Council they will
still have 7 feet of area f or sidewalk in all the alternatives.
Bil Dunaway asked if the park was open to the public in the GMP
scoring. Ms. Houben answered that is how she reviewed it and how
the planning office scored the application. The P & Z said they
did not feel this was a substantial amendment to their plan
because they did not take it into consideration in their scoring.
Richard Roth asked how much housing is being provided for
employees. Ms. Houben said 1 one-bedroom on-site unit, and cash-
in-lieu for 5685,000.
Councilwoman Fallin asked about condition 8, the encroachment
permits for the light posts. Ms. Houben told Council the
engineering department determined these were not in the right-of-
way. Ms. Houben pointed out condition E is that the applications
shall have a guard rail along the north side of the area where
the bank drops off to the river. The applicants have said they
wanted a handrail because this will be on the pedestrian side of
the slope. Ms. Houben said cars will not be in this area. Ms.
Houben said the grading plan shows a slope away from the sidewalk
down to the units. Ms. Houben told Council the engineering
department determined there should not be that much grade change
on public right-of-way. Ms. Houben said the applicants would
like to discuss this. Ms. Houben said the applicants are still
working on the storm drainage with the engineering department.
Marty Pickett, representing the applicant, said they would like
to modify the first condition to state "All representations of
the applicant agreed to by the city and reduced to writing the
in PUD agreement and recorded final plat shall be conditions of
approval". Ms. Pickett said in this process, there have been
conflicting representations because of changes the applicant has
made at Council's request. Council agreed with that wording
change.
Don Ensign, Design Workshop, told Council the open space at
Spring and Main was to give some relief and to avoid the wall of
buildings. Ensign said it was never the intent to have public
access to this area for liability, privacy and maintenance
reasons. It was the intent to keep the public seating in the
right-of-way. This would be visual open space not park space.
Ensign told Council when P & Z reviewed the preliminary plat, it
was specifically asked if public park space influenced the
voting. P & Z said no. The same thing is true for the other
park. Councilman Isaac said he thought it was presented to
Council that the space at Spring and Main was going to be for the
use of the public. Councilman Isaac said he did not see it as a
useful park; it's not large enough to use. Ms. Houben said at
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conceptual the condition was written that the park at Spring and
Main will be accessible to the public and benches will be
included. Ms. Houben said whether or not this makes a difference
to Council is the issue. Ensign said their intention was that
this area be dedicated open space but not a park.
Councilman Gassman said he does not see this area has to be
public. Councilman Isaac said he would like it to stay open
space. The benches should be out of the way of the sidewalk.
Councilwoman Fallin said this should remain public open space
visually. Ms. Houben said this will not have to be a condition;
it is part of the PUD plan.
Ms. Pickett said the applicants need to resolve the handrail
versus the guard rail on Original Curve and the parking along
Main street. Ms. Pickett said the applicants would like final
PUD approval at this meeting.
Councilman Isaac moved to extend the meeting 15 minutes. Motion
DIES for lack of a second.
Mayor Stirling moved to extend the meeting for 30 minutes;
Motion DIES for lack of a second.
Mayor Stirling moved to extend the meeting for 20 minutes;
seconded by Councilman Isaac. Councilman Isaac and Mayor
Stirling in favor; Councilmembers Fallin and Gassman opposed.
Motion NOT carried.
Mayor Stirling appealed to Council to extend the meeting in order
to get the business done. Some of the issues put the Council
meeting behind.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to reconsider; seconded by Mayor
Stirling. All in favor, with the exception of Councilman
Gassman. Motion carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to extend the meeting for 15 minutes;
seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in f avor, with the exception
of Councilman Gassman. Motion carried.
Michael Thompson, Hagman Yaw, said the handrail on Original Curve
adjacent to the river bank was a recommendation made by staff and
the applicant can provide this. Councilman Isaac asked if this
is in addition to the guard rail. Thompson said the state
highway department indicates the curb is adequate to prevent cars
from jumping the curb. Thompson said the applicants are request-
ing that the curb be higher than 6 inches and be 8 inches.
Councilman Isaac said he would like to see the design as he is
concerned for the safety of pedestrians. Thompson said the
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applicants will show Council a design as recommended by the
staff. The handrail is 42 inches high and has an intermediate
rail. Thompson said from a liability standpoint, this is
preferable to a guard rail.
Thompson told Council the applicants agree with the engineering
department assessment which allows more parking spaces and
extends the elephant ear into the right-of-way on the back of the
site allowing 8 cars total on Main street. That is more than can
park there now. Councilwoman Fallin asked why parking spaces are
being eliminated on Spring street. Thompson said currently
there is one narrow drive. The applicants are providing a looped
drive, which takes out two spaces. On Main street there is a
driveway, which the applicants are taking out. The P & Z
alternative widened Main street east of the intersection and
eliminates more parking.
Thompson pointed out the applicants design gives a net gain of 1
or 2 parking spaces. Councilwoman Fallin said she is opposed to
putting any more parking on Main street. Councilman Isaac said
he does not want any parking in the curve and is concerned about
not having a guard rail at that curve. Thompson said the
applicants are proposing a control for how much parking is on
the project. Councilwoman Fallin said if the engineering
department and state highway department have approved the parking
plan, she will accept it. The applicant said this is the green
plan and has two fewer parking spaces.
Thompson said during the GMP presentation, the applicants
demonstrated a number of design quality issues; one is an open
space continuity between Herron park and Main street. The
applicants provided a large landscaped area and the grading to go
along with it. The applicants also provided a large amount of
landscaping in the public right-of-way along Main street concur-
rent with the level of landscaping throughout the site. Thompson
said site has been designed as one context and all the grading is
smooth. Thompson told Council because of the mass and bulk
concerns of the building cluster on Main street, the applicants
addressed that by lowering that cluster into the ground to reduce
the effect of the mass and bulk. This would also increase the
open space perception from Herron park to Main street. Thompson
said the applicants based the entire site design on this concept.
The suggested approach by the engineering department to allow no
more than a one foot grade change in the public right-of-way
would eliminate this design quality. This would tear down the
continuity of open space and impact the soft grading. This will
result in high retaining walls close to the units and to Main
street. Thompson said this creates problems with the design.
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The staff's recommendation came late in the process. Thompson
suggested Council allow grading as the applicant have proposed
since conceptual PUD.
Ms. Houben said there are several reasons the engineering
department is concerned about allowing the grading to occur the
way the applicant has proposed. One of these is that it is a
policy in public right-of-way to keep the natural grade. One
reason is if a steeper grade is allowed, there may be a problem
in the future if the road were to be widened or if utilities
needed to be put in. There may be problems in snow removal
pushed onto the public right-of-way and the dirty snow may wash
down into the patio area. Person said code defines public right-
of-way as that dedicated to public use. Person said this seems
to be more private use. Councilwoman Fallin said her instinct is
to keep this as recommended by the engineering department.
Thompson showed a cross section of the street, sidewalk and grade
the engineering department proposes and what that would cause to
the project. Thompson said raising the whole building changes
the design the nature of the project severely and impacts the
quality of design. Thompson showed the worst case steepest grade
in their proposal. This will be a landscaped open space buffer
between public and private space. Councilman Isaac said he would
like to see this at second reading of the vested rights ordi-
nance. Councilman Gassman said there is an implication that the
public is causing the problem. Councilman Gassman said it is
standard in business when designing a project, one uses their
own property. Councilman Gassman said he would go along with the
engineering department's recommendation.
Thompson said the code states an applicant must obtain a permit
from the engineering department for right-of-way grading.
Thompson said the applicants were not remiss to assume the
engineering department was reviewing the project for all concerns
throughout the entire process. Thompson said it was not until
final plat that this issue was brought up by the engineering
department. The applicants presented their design since concep-
tual. Ensign told Council the whole conceptual idea for the
design of the front of the building was based on the assumption
that they could create in the right-of-way. This addressed the
apparent heights of the building and is fundamental to the site
plan. Ensign said the applicant were only told this was not
acceptable at the end of the process. Ensign said it is not
clear why this problem was not brought up at the conceptual level
because it is so fundamental. Ms. Pickett said her concern is
where the standard came from with the 1 foot slope. Ensign said
they have not found the standard in any of the codes. They
understand the concern about expanding the street but the highway
department has said this is not a sane thing to do.
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City Manager Bob Anderson reminded Council the reason there is a
conceptual and final is to get more specific at what is looked
at. Anderson suggested this can be examined between first and
second reading of the vested rights ordinance to see if there is
a possible compromise. Councilman Isaac asked if the vested
rights is transferable to another party. Ms. Houben said the
right is for the 700 East Main PUD project. Ms. Houben requested
the first whereas in the ordinance be changed to "the applicants
of the development rights of 700 East Main PUD" because at this
point the applicants are still not owners of the property.
Councilman Isaac moved to read Ordinance #24, Series of 1988;
seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #24
(Series of 1988)
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ASPEN,
VESTING DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FOR THE 700 EAST MAIN PUD
was read by the deputy city clerk
Councilman Isaac moved to adopt Ordinance #24, Series of 1988,
on first reading; seconded by Councilman Gassman. Roll call
vote; Councilmembers Isaac, yes; Gassman, yes; Fallin, yes.
Motion carried.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to continue the meeting to June 6,
1988, at 5:00 adding action items VII g, h, i, k, and 1; seconded
by Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
Council left Chambers at 9:35 p.m.
Kathryn S Koch, City Clerk
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