HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19881010Regular Meeting Ashen City Council October 10, 1988
SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES - Coming Home Project 1
SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCE - State Award for Drug Awareness 1
CITIZENS COMMENTS ., 2
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS 3
RIO GRANDE CONCEPTUAL SPA 5
ORDINANCE #34, SERIES OF 1988 - Water Rates 11
ORDINANCE #35, SERIES OF 1988 - Amending Alarms 12
ORDINANCE #36, SERIES OF 1988 - CBS Final Plat and Vesting 12
ORDINANCE #37, SERIES OF 1988 - Bonds for Underground
Project 12
AIR POLLUTION PROGRAM WINTER 1988-89 13
ORDINANCE #38, SERIES OF 1988 - Mandatory Odd/Even No Burn 15
HAMW I F I NAL PLAT 16
BERKO BUILDING APPEAL 17
BANNERS AT THE WHEELER OPERA HOUSE 19
IMPOUND LOT LOCATION 19
CONTRACT AWARD - Hockey Rink Dasher Boards 20
MILLS PROPERTY 20
RFTA SIGN REQUEST 21
FLUORIDATION OF CITY WATER 21
RESOLUTION #32, SERIES OF 1988 - Block 19 Annexation 22
RESOLUTION #33, SERIES OF 1988 - Approving Use Tax Agreement 22
ORDINANCE #39, SERIES OF 1988 - Castle Ridge Agreement
Amendment 22
RED ROOF INNS WINTER USE 23
BOARDS AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS 23
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PAVING THE ALLEY BETWEEN MONARCH AND ASPEN 24
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Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with
Councilmembers Fallin, Gassman, Isaac and Tuite present.
SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES - Coming Home Project
Bridgette told Council the Coming Home project is a response to
the atmosphere existing in Aspen and is an attempt to get people
to take responsibility for their problems, the atmosphere and the
problems. Bridgette said Aspen is seen as a family that has
existed for the last 20 years in cooperation. Now there is a
sense of diversity and no unity. This will be a program of
events to try and get past bickering into creative action.
Bridgette said the real power of a town is in its informal
networks. This program is meant to support management but also
represents a paradigm shift and an examination of the context out
of which everyone is working and living.
Larry said one component of the project is the healthy cities
project which is initiated by the World Health Organization.
This project has been in operation for 2 years with 23 cities in
16 countries as part of the project, none in the United States.
Aspen will be looking at what is involved in becoming a healthy
city. The second major component is the work of Dr. Jim Kent.
Dr. Kent told Council they have been helping people in com-
_ munities discover who they are and what their culture is and to
look at the future. Kent said this is a way of having people
look at tackling their own issues instead of passing them on to
government or to someone else and to take the pressure off public
bodies and private institutions. Kent said the seminar is after
what is the positive side of Aspen. Larry invited Council to
participate in the events of the week. Mayor Stirling suggested
a work session with Council after the conference to discuss the
qualities that make Aspen unique and what must occur in the
valley to keeps these characteristics.
SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCE - State Award for Drug Awareness
Councilwoman Fallin congratulated the Board of ASAP who have
worked very hard on this project. Councilwoman Fallin said for
Aspen to be the winner of all the communities in Colorado is a
real achievement. Larry Dragon said this is the first step, and
Aspen has come a long way. Dragon said they received a plaque
from the Governor and a check for $5,000. Dragon told Council a
football was received and the Broncos will come to Aspen after
the season. Councilwoman Fallin said a reporter from the Dail
News received an individual award.
Marsha Brendlinger said a 12 minute video was done, which
incorporated many assets of Aspen and all the things the com-
munity is trying to do in alcohol and substance abuse awareness.
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Ms. Brendlinger said was this was truly a community effort, and
they would like to congratulate the community be hanging a banner
on Main street. Ms. Brendlinger requested that the $50 fee for
hanging this banner be waived.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to allow the banner to be hung and to
waive the fee; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Councilman Isaac said the city has been hanging banners for non-
profit organizations and not waiving the fees. Councilwoman
Fallin said this should come from the city to the people of the
community as a thank you. Councilwoman Fallin said this is not a
non-profit group advertising a cause, but is a congratulations to
the city.
All in favor, motion carried.
CITIZENS COMMENTS
1. Nick McGrath, representing ABLE, Aspen Bike Lovers East,
presented a copy of petitions with about 1 , 000 signatures
supporting efforts for a trail system east of Aspen. McGrath
said it is in everyone's interest to have a good trail system
east of Aspen. McGrath said he will be presenting a $5,000
budget request to Council to design a safe path east of town.
3. Jerry Cole reminded Council he had sent Council a letter
regarding a total lack of enforcement on the open container law.
Cole said he would like to determine what is the next action to
get enforcement on this law. Cole said the police department
says they do not enforce this law because of a lack of direction
from Council. Cole said he feels the city should send a firm
signal to the youth of this community that they do not take a
laissez faire attitude about open containers. City Manager Bob
Anderson said the city generally enforces this law; however,
there are times when it is very difficult to enforce them.
Anderson said what is needed is more thought about how alcohol is
part of Aspen's festivities, like Ruggerfest. Anderson said he
has talked to the police department about how these activities
might be handled next year. Anderson said the city is dealing
with the laws as written and the community's customs as they have
been.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct the city manager to continue this
discussion with the chief of police and to report back to Council
as soon as possible; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Councilman Tuite said this has been discussed in a study session.
Councilman Gassman said Council has also discussed what the cost
of special event permits are, and one cost might be enforcement.
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Mayor Stirling said there is a lot more the city can do, and the
Council is prepared to address these.
All in favor, motion carried.
3. Richie Cohen voiced a concern on Mayor Stirling's comments
on a debate about the initiated petition and the Hadid group on
the radio. Cohen said he understood that Council had passed a
resolution and has an obligation to follow the same directive
that they gave to staff and to remain neutral. Cohen said Bill
Stirling represented his personal position but made it clear he
was the Mayor of Aspen and this was objectionable. Cohen said if
the initiative is passed, the city will probably be subject to a
lawsuit and could face some damaging loses.
Mayor Stirling said the Council did not say there was going to be
a gag rule on any individual members. Mayor Stirling said
Council was not taking a position as a body and asked no staff
members to take positions on this issue. Mayor Stirling said
individually any member of Council is able to speak out on any
issue. Council agreed. Cohen said the Mayor has a special power
as Mayor and did not make it clear he was speaking individually.
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS
1. Councilman Tuite said there is an election tomorrow and no
matter what happens, he would like to see the community think
about how they got into this position and what can be done to try
and get more consensus.
2. Councilman Isaac said he is disappointed that the Mayor made
a statement about the election on the radio. Councilman Isaac
said Council had decided they were not going to take a position
on this.
3. Councilman Isaac moved to add to the agenda the contract for
paving the alley between Hopkins and Main street as VIII (r);
seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, with the exception
of Councilmembers Fallin and Gassman. Motion carried.
4. Mayor Stirling moved to add to the consent agenda a resolu-
tion on the resort planning; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
All in favor, motion carried.
Councilman Isaac said everyone at the presentation was excited
that Aspen's design community was recognized as being leaders in
the nation for designing resort communities. Councilman Isaac
said this is a plus for Aspen.
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5. Mayor Stirling said there was a letter sent to the city from
a newly annexed citizen giving accolades to the city road crews
for their professional job and attitudes.
6. Mayor Stirling said there is a general election November 8
with a series of state amendments. Amendment #6 concerns tax
limitations. Mayor Stirling urged Council to consider taking an
action on amendment #6, which would repeal the city's real estate
transfer tax and the parking structure tax. Mayor Stirling said
this amendment takes away all control from local government.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct the city attorney to research
this, stay in touch with the attorney general's hearing, and to
bring on October 24th a resolution for Council to look at;
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilman Isaac asked that staff to evaluate the impacts of this
amendment to the city.
7. Mayor Stirling acknowledged the environmental research group
and the work they have done on Independence Pass. The research
group has identified a series of things they want to do. Mayor
Stirling said they are taking tremendous initiative to deal with
erosion on Independence pass.
8. Mayor Stirling said he received a call from an individual
who is willing to donate $350,000 and the cycling federation
would donate $350,000 if the city could help with the land in
order to build a velodrome in Aspen. Mayor Stirling referred
this to the city manager and asked for a report back on this.
9. Councilman Gassman asked about the drainage on the Francis
street Townhomes. Cindy Houben, planning office, said this is
retaining on-site drainage.
10. Cindy Houben, planning office, requested Council move (c)
from the action items Pitkin Reserve PUD amendment on to the
consent agenda. Ms. Houben said there are no issues involved in
this amendment.
Mayor Stirling moved to add the Pitkin Reserve PUD amendment to
the consent agenda; seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor,
motion carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to approve the consent calendar; seconded by
Councilman Gassman. The consent calendar is:
A. Minutes - September 13, 26, 1988
B. Liquor License Renewals - Aspen Grove Cafe, City Market
C. Francis Street Townhomes Condominiumization (Cindy
Houben)
D. Harmon/Prentis Lot Line Adjustment (Cindy Houben)
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E. Resolution #38, 1988 - Resort Planning
F. Pitkin Reserve PUD Amendment
All in favor, motion carried.
RIO GRANDE CONCEPTUAL SPA
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing.
Tom Baker, planning office, reminded Council at the last meeting
they discussed the process and the presentation of the conceptual
SPA. The P & Z unanimously recommended approval of the SPA with
conditions. Baker said the first condition states the city
should agree with the county to amend the 1982 land exchange
agreement. Baker told Council he has been working with the arts
groups, and they have another location on the site. Baker said
the land exchange agreement will have to be worked out with the
city and county attorneys.
The second condition discusses the drainage plan, a list of
easements and encumbrances and utilities overlay. Baker said
this does not need to be addressed at conceptual but does need to
be addressed at precise review. Baker said there are 19 other
conditions that need to be worked out before precise plan. The
first of these is that the applicant shall submit a site plan,
landscaping plan, building design plan and building design
techniques to mitigate visual impact of the development. Baker
said plans for mitigation of impact caused by the Spring street
extension shall also be presented. Baker said as Spring street
is extended, the curve could have an impact on the residential
area of Oklahoma Flats. Baker said each individual project will
have to illustrate how they are mitigating the impacts.
Councilman Gassman said P & Z stated they want the visual impacts
of the library mitigated. Councilman Gassman said most com-
munities are proud of their libraries. Councilman Gassman said
he sees literacy as an important public value. Councilman
Gassman said he disagrees with the goal to make everything
invisible. Simone Genatt asked how staff can make a presenta-
tion to make a land exchange if they want to see a performing
arts center. Baker said he has discussed this with members of
the performing arts groups and with the County Commissioners.
Baker said the Commissioners would like to see some solution of
the community's parking problem and would be amenable to amending
the land exchange agreement to reach that goal. Baker said the
location for the arts usage is being identified at the Aspen
One/snow dump area, which is a larger parcel.
Baker agreed about the library and said sometimes people lose
site of the fact they should be proud of the structures that are
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built today. A public building, like the library, could be used
as a focal point. P & Z wanted to avoid having the Mill street
facade create a canyon effect with the Jerome. Gary Ross,
architect for the library, said the way the condition is worded
related to the Mill street facade is good to avoid a canyon
effect. Ross said there is another condition that states the
library shall be restricted to one story in height from the
plaza level of the parking structure. Ross said he would like to
have this condition amended.
Baker said another condition deals with environmental studies,
air pollution, water pollution from the run off of the surface
that will be created, and any loss of storm water detention areas
should be replaced. These will be addressed before precise plan.
Phoebe Ryerson said there seems to be a great rush for a decis-
ion. Ms. Ryerson said there are other locations for the snow
dump and this permanent location is being pressed on the public.
Councilman Tuite said Council had a continued meeting on the
location of the snow melt. Council said that any good ideas they
received would be discussed. Councilman Tuite said if the city
finds a better site, he has no intention of making this a
permanent site.
Glenn Rappaport told Council he did his master's thesis in
architecture on the Rio Grande property and its usage as a
cultural center. Rappaport offered to present this project to
Council.
Baker told Council conditions 3 and 4 are based on the fire
marshal's recommendations. Condition #5 is that any downtown
shuttle should service the Rio Grande site, the post office and
pedestrian sites in between. Council agreed to add "recreational
and cultural" sites also. Baker said condition #6 is a request
that Council consider RFTA may have some need to store buses in
town during the day, as opposed to storing them at Rubey park.
Councilman Gassman said this was discussed during the Rubey park
project and Council felt that RFTA was not to store very many
buses in town during the day. Councilmembers Gassman and Fallin
said they are not in favor of this idea. Councilman Tuite said
he will bring this up at the next RFTA meeting. Baker told
Council thi s was not a request f rom RFTA but came up as an
option.
Condition #7 deals with utilities. Condition #8 encourages
actions in conjunction with the parking, like increased enforce-
ment of parking in the downtown area. An attachment to this
identifies the appropriate amount of half hour, one hour and two
hour parking spaces as opposed to the current inventory. Another
action is improved pedestrian access between downtown and Rio
Grande by developing Galena street as a pedestrian corridor.
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This would include changing the angle parking, widening the
sidewalks. Councilman Gassman requested Council strengthen this
condition. Councilman Gassman said one of the most valuable
things the Rio Grande plan can do is to emphasize the pedestrian
link from downtown to the river. Ms. Ryerson said there is a
hope that trolleys might be used as part of this link. Baker
said he will take this out of 8(c) and make it a separate
condition. Baker said (d) is implementing the Roaring Fork
greenway plan, extending the trails and creating passive open
space along the river.
Baker told Council P & Z feels that the snow melt facility in the
approved location placed at the bottom of the impound lot is
appropriate. Mayor Stirling said Council has approved this on a
one-year experimental basis. Councilwoman Fallin said the
sanitation district has said they do not want the snow melt on
their property. City Manager Bob Anderson pointed out the non-
profit housing corporation is looking at this as a potential low-
cost housing site.
Baker said condition #9 talks about the fee structure and
revolves around what the city's priority is, not to have a fee
structure that pays for the parking structure but to get auto-
mobiles off the streets. Baker said Council has addressed their
desire about the fee structure at other meetings. Baker said
condition #10 is that each applicant will address how many
employees will be generated and will be required to mitigate that
impact. Baker said condition #11 is when each applicant comes in
for final SPA and they are requesting a GMP exemption as an
essential public facility, they will be required to illustrate
why.
Baker said condition #12 is that the library shall be designed so
that the Mill street facade has a pedestrian character and is set
back so as not to create a canyon effect. Baker said the Mill
street facade will be the most visible nature of the Rio Grande
site. Councilman Gassman said the parts of Aspen that everyone
admires are exactly what this conditions is suggested should be
prevented. Councilman Gassman said if the library is an impor-
tant public building, it should relate to the street like other
public buildings. Councilman Gassman said he is opposed to
requiring that the library be set back from the street with no
design or study. Councilman Gassman said he is also opposed
that the library should be only one story.
Mayor Stirling said one issue is if Council has settled on the
library being on the Rio Grande property rather than remaining on
Main street and being expanded. Chuck Vidal, library board, said
the board has analyzed alternatives of expanding on site and on
to the clinic building. Vidal said on a cost benefit basis and
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structure basis, those issues have been put to bed. Vidal told
Council a library has unique structural requirements and cannot
just occupy a building. Mayor Stirling asked what will happen to
the current library site. Vidal said he does not know. Vidal
requested a work session with Council. Vidal said the library
board needs to resolve and finalize their position on the land.
Vidal said the library is not going to be on top of the parking
structure but will be building on a piece of land next to the
parking structure. Vidal said the library needs to ability to
expand in another 10 years as well as other criteria. Vidal said
one of their criteria is that they do not want to go to the
public. For the library to create this new building they need to
be able to get revenues off the existing site and to get land at
little or not cost. Vidal said the library board has gone over
this with the Council and the Commissioners earlier.
Richie Cohen asked if there has been consideration given to
library usage for land available if there is a new site for the
elementary school. Cohen said he thought the city and library
had come to a conclusion that the site above Cap's was a given
for the library. The arts groups then felt it was acceptable to
move their interest in a property from the upper site down to the
river site. Cohen said if the library site is questionable, then
the arts groups would like to hold on to their site, which is the
ideal site for a year round performing facility. Vidal said the
library board felt that the deal had been made but no resolution
has been passed.
Councilman Isaac moved that this is the site for the library
subject to conditions relating to the Oden property and the arts
groups; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Vidal said because of the modification to the parking plan, the
library has to feel comfortable that their expansion plans are
not being precluded. Mayor Stirling asked about the inclusion of
a youth center. Vidal said this has not been discussed because
the parking structure has been pulled out from under the library.
The library will be on its own group. Vidal said the spaces the
youth center was looking at do not exist right now. Mayor
Stirling asked if the library is willing to accept a youth
center as a requirement as part of the new library. Vidal said
the library is willing to work with the teen center group but is
not sure the two uses are compatible. Vidal said he does not
feel it is appropriate to compromise a library facility in terms
of its goals to put a teen center in. Vidal said if the facility
is not compromised, he does not have a problem putting the teen
center in the library.
Ms. Genatt said she is part of a new support group that is
interested in building a performing arts center. Ms. Genatt
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said if the snow dump land is given to the performing arts
center, that the expansion potential of the performing arts
center is also considered. Cohen said he would like a condition
that gives this land back to the performing arts center if the
library is not built. Cohen said the performing arts groups are
willing to stand aside for a library because the library is
ready. Cohen said the performing arts center does not have a
better location. Councilman Isaac agreed the city ought to have
a work session with the library board so money is not spend
designing a structure that the Council is not comfortable with.
Councilman Isaac said this is a good site for the library.
All in favor, with the exception of Mayor Stirling. Motion
carried.
Councilman Gassman moved to eliminate conditions 12 and 13;
~PC~nclec3 by Councilwoman Fallin.
Mayor Stirling said the point is not to limit the flexibility of
the library. Baker said the fact that the parking is being
pulled out from under the library has no impact on how these two
structures sit on the site. Gary Ross, architect, said the main
concern of P & Z is the canyon effect on Mill street. Ross said
the condition of the one-story is not what P & Z intended. They
were worried about the scale of the building from the pedestrian
plaza on top of the parking structure. Ross said in order to
achieve some of the other goals, like expansion and the pos-
sibility of a teen center, there may be the ability to do a two
story building with the same scale. Ross said this is more
restrictive height limitation than anywhere else in town.
All in favor, motion carried.
Council scheduled a work session with the library board for
October 17 at 6 p.m. after the meeting with the Commissioners.
Mayor Stirling asked about the ability to expand to the east.
Baker pointed out the plan shows a dotted line on top of the roof
of the parking facility as a potential expansion for the library.
Baker said this is holding that area in abeyance for library use
in the future. Phoebe Ryerson said this would absolutely
eliminate the possibility of a performing arts theatre. Council
agreed with giving the library the ability to expand.
Baker said condition #15, P & Z f elt the
the teen center groups to see if their
there. Councilman Gassman said he would
but does not feel it is fair to make
library. Councilwoman Fallin agreed.
the city should not look at just forcing
library should work with
facility can be located
strongly encourage this
it a requirement of the
Councilwoman Fallin said
this on the library but
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should look at other locations in the parking garage or on the
Rio Grande. Mayor Stirling said it is time the city did some-
thing for a youth center. Mayor Stirling supports doing this in
conjunction with the library and would like to see this pursued
to its fullest.
Councilman Gassman moved to amend condition #15 to say that
library, parking facility and teen center all go into the
dialogue; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Councilman Isaac said people interested in a teen center need to
look at other facilities available in the community, like the
old library, the schools on Hallam and Bleeker streets. Council-
man Isaac said putting the teen center underground in a parking
garage might not be a good way to treat it. Councilman Tuite
said there are other spaces available. Marsha Brendlinger said
the teen center said they are concerned about there being a
space and are happy to work with the city and with the library.
Ms. Brendlinger said the time is right to give an image of a
healthy community.
Harry Teague said one of the considerations on where a teen
center is put is an analysis of the traffic generated and how
people will get access to it. Karen Barnett, ASAP, told Council
in the survey the youth did, it came out that they wanted the
teen center located in the downtown core. The youth would like
to be part of the community. Glen Rappaport suggested the city
look at how pedestrians will flow throughout this area, which may
offer some solutions. Jeffrey Evans suggested the city remain
flexible on a second story on the library. This could be used
in the short term as a teen center and in the future an expansion
area for the library. Skip Berhorst said the teen center can
work with the library or within the parking structure. Berhorst
said they are trying to find a location.
All in favor, motion carried.
Baker said condition #16 deals with the architectural element on
top of the parking structure that covers the elevator and
stairwell and moving it off the Galena street access. Baker said
this is in important element in terms of construction drawings,
and i f i t i s moved , the drawings will have to be redone .
Councilman Gassman said Galena street is the major connection
between the downtown and the Rio Grande and to put an elevator
shaft in the middle of this is a mistake. Councilman Tuite said
this area may be able to be used as a mall/transportation link.
Harry Teague said there is an idea of extending the outdoor
sculpture space from the art museum up to Galena.
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Baker said condition #17 discusses the extension of Spring
street. Baker said as part of the final SPA, they will be
looking at where the street fits and how it would effect Cap's
and not to preclude the possibility of a service station.
Condition #17 was fine with Council. Council had no problems
with condition #18.
Councilman Gassman said he does not feel that the top of the
garage should ever be used for parking. The staff should be
looking at some uses for the top of the garage and avoiding a big
concrete space that is not used for anything. Councilman Gassman
recommended adding that if the parking ever expands, it goes down
rather than up. Mayor Stirling supported that and asked that the
resolution be more articulate in stating this is a public space
and to be used for the town. Teague said this space ought to be
supportive of the library and extension of the library. Joe
Wells said he is appalled that the city is giving up half a block
of open space adjacent to the river for an impound lot when the
cars can be taken somewhere else and the fees adjusted.
Mayor Stirling moved to continue the public hearing on the Rio
Grande SPA to October 24; seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in
favor, motion carried.
Victoria Fuller told Council she is opposed to the Berko building
being moved.
ORDINANCE #34, SERIES OF 1988 - Water Rates
Craig Overbeck, finance department, said this ordinance removes
the out of town charge and reduces the maximum service factor
from 2 .7 5 to 2 .0 . The rates are based on the proposed water
budget for 1989 minus the estimated tap fees to be collected.
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing.
Councilman Gassman moved to adopt Ordinance #34, Series of 1988,
on second reading; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Overbeck reminded Council the 1988 rates adopted in July included
the savings from refunding the water bonds. These rates are
artificially low. Chuck Vidal told Council his water rates have
doubled since last summer. Vidal said there seems like there is
a penalty for watering yards and gardens. Mayor Stirling said
this ordinance has an incentive to use more water in the summer
and switches off in September.
Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
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Roll call vote; Councilmembers Gassman, yes; Fallin, yes; Tuite,
yes; Isaac, yes; Mayor Stirling, no. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #35, SERIES OF 1988 - Amending Alarms
Councilwoman Fallin moved to table this to October 24, 1988;
seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #36, SERIES OF 1988 - CBS Final Plat and Vesting
Cindy Houben, planning office, said there is one change since
first reading, which is to vest the rights at the time the final
plat is recorded rather than when final plat is approved. Ms.
Houben told Council at the last review Council had 3 conditions
which the applicant has since met on the plat.
Mayor Stirling said there was some discussion of the possibility
of any on-site employee housing. Sunny Vann, representing the
applicant, told Council the applicant is proceeding toward
building permit. The language which may allow caretaker units on
the property has not been through P & Z. Vann said it is not
possible to put the project on hold. Vann said to the extent it
is desirable when the new regulations are in place and the
applicant or owners are inclined to include employee units, this
may permit incorporation of employee housing in this project.
Councilman Isaac asked if this project went through GMP. Ms.
Houben told Council it is a replacement project. Vann said there
is an exemption in growth management for replacement of existing
units. Councilman Isaac asked if these units will be short term.
Vann said there is a prohibition in the office zone which
precludes short term use. Ms. Houben said the applicants are not
requesting condominiumization at this point.
Councilman Tuite moved to approve the final plat of the CBS
subdivision; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor, with
the exception of Mayor Stirling. Motion carried.
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. There were no com-
ments. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilman Tuite moved to adopt Ordinance #36, Series of 1988, on
second reading; seconded by Councilman Isaac. Roll call v ote;
Councilmembers Isaac, yes; Fallin, no; Gassman, yes; Tuite, yes;
Mayor Stirling, no. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #37, SERIES OF 1988 - Bonds for Underground Project
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. There were no com-
ments. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
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Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #37, Series of 1988,
as amended on second reading; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Chuck Vidal asked if there is a plan for undergrounding Snowbunny
and Cemetery Lane areas. Mayor Stirling said the city is only
undergrounding their electric district. Holy Cross has coopera-
ted in their adjacent areas. Councilman Gassman said the city
has encouraged Holy Cross to continue with their undergrounding.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Fallin, yes; Tuite, yes; Isaac,
yes; Gassman, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
AIR POLLUTION PROGRAM WINTER 1988-89
Councilwoman Fallin moved to approve the program; seconded by
Mayor Stirling.
Lee Cassin, environmental health department, told Council there
are 6 programs recommended by the Clean Air Board for this
winter. The first is hiring a professional PR firm. Staff is
proceeding with this and will go ahead when they get budget
approval. The next program is the mandatory odd/even no burn
program, which is next on the agenda. The next is asphalt coated
sand, which is staff testing to see if it will work. The fourth
program is real time pollution monitoring, which will be to get
hourly readings of the particulate levels. Another program the
state will fund, which is a meteorological station.
Ms. Cassin told Council the two types of data the city has are
intuition and the state health department model. The intuition
would say that pollution comes from sanding. The state health
department model shows 54 percent fireplaces and 36 percent
sanding. The state health department's model is for a day in the
winter when there are a lot of tourists in town, a lot of
woodburning, a lot of driving and dry weather. The state's model
does not predict what will happen in spring-like conditions. Ms.
Cassin said the city does not know if, when the pollution is all
from woodburning, the levels will ever get high enough to cause
a violation. Ms. Cassin said the current data is not that
compelling to point the direction in which the city should go to
clean up the air.
Ms. Cassin said at the end of this winter, the city will have the
additional meteorological data and the chemical analysis. Ms.
Cassin said this will not tell the city whether they have gone
the right way or not. Ms. Cassin said the data has a large
amount of uncertainty. Ms. Cassin explained the samples cannot
be tilted and will be hand carried to Nevada after a certain
amount is collected. Ms. Cassin said the data is meaningless
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until the city has all the data for the entire season. Ms.
Cassin told Council the data has a very large uncertainty and
there will be 20 percent that is from an unexplained source.
Councilman Tuite said the city may be made to do programs based
on studies that have no relationship to the true situation.
Councilman Gassman said he has doubts about this problem.
Councilman Gassman presented charts that illustrate every day
since 1976, the total TSP, high and low daily temperature and
precipitation. Councilman Gassman said it seems there should be
some causal relationship and if fireplaces are the problem, then
the city should be able to see it. Councilman Gassman said the
theory has been that Aspen has the worst pollution when there is
inversions in dry weather. Councilman Gassman said from the
chart that is not true, and he could not find any correlation at
all between high TSP and temperature inversions. Councilman
Gassman said if fireplaces are causing all the problems, why is
there more pollution in the summer than in the winter. Council-
man Gassman said the lowest TSP of the year is in the ski season
11 years out of 12. Councilman Gassman pointed out that the TSP
level at Christmas and New Year's has exceeded the secondary
standard only twice in 12 years, and it has never exceeded the
primary standard.
-- Councilman Gassman said the TSP has exceeded the secondary
standard only 3 times in 12 years when the temperature was below
32 degrees. Councilman Gassman said the city is proposing to
spend a lot of money on a program they are not sure of the
causes. Ms. Cassin said the last emissions inventory done in
1984 showed sanding caused 84 percent of the total suspended
particulate levels. Ms. Cassin said TSP is overwhelmingly caused
by sanding and always has been a spring time problem. Ms. Cassin
said what is not known is how high a PM 10 level the city will
get in the winter when sanding is not a factor. Ms. Cassin said
all of the woodburning emissions are PM 10 category. Councilman
Gassman said he only has PM 10 charted for 1988, but it does
exactly the same thing as TSP. Ms. Cassin said the sources that
contribute to different types of pollution are completely
different.
Mayor Stirling asked if there is something that can be added to
the PR program to include carbon monoxide pollution and not just
emphasize PM 10. Ms. Cassin said this can be done. Mayor
Stirling said Council has not determined the source of the
revenue for this program. Tom Dunlop, environmental health
department director, said items 1 through 4 were dealt with in
the budget session, item 5 was not included. The $70,000 was to
fund items 1 through 4; $42,000 has been requested in the
environmental health department budget for 1989; $25,000 will be
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in the streets department. There is 510,000 each for items 2 and
4 that there is no money for.
Councilman Gassman objected to contracting for 540,000 without
bidding this. Dunlop said this will be bid out. Mayor Stirling
said he would rather see the city spend 530,000 rather than
542,000 on this program. Councilman Tuite pointed out the budget
request is not just for the PR firm; it is for media ads, radio
and newspaper. Dunlop said the staff wants Council to know the
percentages of error up front so there is not hidden anticipation
or surprises. Mayor Stirling said this is an overall community
proposal rather than coming just from the city.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Gassman. Motion
carried.
ORDINANCE #38, SERIES OF 1988 - Mandatory Odd/Even No Burn
Councilman Isaac moved to read Ordinance #38, Series of 1988;
seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #38
(Series of 1988)
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING PORTIONS OF SECTIO N 2.3 OF THE
MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE CITY OF ASPEN, COLORADO, SO AS TO
REGULATE USE OF SOLID FUEL BURNING DEVICES AND PRESCRI-
BING THE PENALTY FOR A VIOLATION OF SAID AMENDMENT was
read by the city clerk
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #38, Series of 1988,
on first reading; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Mayor Stirling recommended it be the owner that be fined to put
the onus on the owner of the property. Fred Gannett, city
attorney' s office, said the problem is getting the owner into
court. Mayor Stirling asked about holding the management company
responsible. Gannett pointed out this is getting farther and
farther away from the person breaking the rule. Council ask that
this be addressed by second reading. Si Coleman, Clean Air
Board, said this year's version of the ordinance should not be
viewed as perfect. Coleman suggested this might go to a licens-
ing agreement.
This will be done on a complaint basis the first year rather than
hiring more staff. The exemptions will be handled by the Clean
Air Board. Ms. Cassin recommended there be an exemption for
people with certified devices. Council agreed. Councilman
Gassman said to make a criminal act of something that is as
poorly understood as this is wrong. Councilman Gassman said the
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charts disprove the theory that the whole problem is caused by
fireplaces. Councilman Tuite said if the city had control, that
would be one thing. The city has the onus of the EPA coming in
if they do not think the city is taking measures. Councilman
Tuite said he sees this as a least cost method approach.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Fallin, yes; Gassman, no; Isaac,
yes; Tuite, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
HAMW I FINAL -PLAT
(Councilman Tuite left due to a conflict of interest) . Cindy
Houben told Council this is a request f or final plat and condo-
miniumization located on lot 4 of Sunny Park subdivision at the
intersection of Park Circle and Park avenue. Ms. Houben said
there are 3 units on the property. The request is to replace
these 3 units, to add one employee unit, and to request an
exemption from growth management for this unit. This 1300 square
foot unit will be deed restricted to the middle income category.
Ms. Houben said one outstanding issue is the sidewalk on the
property. The engineering department has requested this sidewalk
be moved closer to the property line. Ms. Houben told Council
the city may want to expand the street at this intersection. If
the applicants put in a concrete sidewalk, that may have to be
torn up. The applicants are proposing to put in a gravel
sidewalk. The engineering department does not favor this
because of safety reasons. Ms. Houben recommended pulling the
sidewalk back against the property boundary and make it a
concrete sidewalk so that it will not have to be torn up. A
gravel sidewalk does not meet the Code standards and should not
be allowed.
Marty Pickett, representing the applicant, noted there are no
adjoining sidewalks and it is difficult to determine where the
sidewalks should be. Ms. Pickett said pulling the sidewalks back
30 or 40 feet from the road is ridiculous because people want to
use the sidewalk. Ms. Pickett suggested not requiring any
sidewalks until the city knows where the road will be located.
Ms. Pickett told Council the applicant has gone through the
entire process thinking that the gravel sidewalk was what the
city wanted and it is too late to change. Ms. Pickett said the
applicant is willing to provide concrete sidewalks at such time
the location is determined. Mayor Stirling said this entire area
does not have sidewalks at this time. Mayor Stirling said there
is wisdom in waiting to put the sidewalks in and require escrow
so that it will be done by the owners. Paul Hamwi said this will
become a responsibility of the condominium association or the
owners of the units. Hamwi said the city is talking years before
they know what they are going to do. Hamwi said this will be a
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form of an assessment for the condominium owners. Mayor Stirling
said a developer is responsible for a certain amount of infra-
structure.
Hamwi said the engineering department has stated they do not want
anything permanent in the right-of-way until they hav e a plan.
Mayor Stirling said the gravel would give a way to get people off
the street. Ms. Pickett said the mechanism to guarantee the
sidewalk is the improvement district for the owners. Ms. Picket
said on drainage, the engineering department has agreed the
condition can state that prior to issuance of any permits, the
engineering department shall approve the drainage plan. Ms.
Pickett said the project is decreasing the surf ace runoff.
Ms. Houben told Council the housing office has worked closely
with the applicant and has come up with a plan where the employee
unit can be fit in. Councilman Isaac said he is concerned about
waiving the balance of the housing impact fee for the rest of the
units. Mayor Stirling said that is a trade off to get the
employee unit on site. Ms. Houben pointed out this project will
house 25 percent employees. There would be a 10 percent dif-
ference from the required fee, which is $2,415. Councilman Isaac
said the existing units are being replaced with free market
units, and there is an impact on employee housing which is not
being met. Councilman Isaac said he would like the city to get
the balance of the housing impact fee.
Council did not have a problem deleting the first sentence on
condition 6 about the drainage. Mayor Stirling said he feels
this project will be a benefit as long as there is a first right
of refusal. Mayor Stirling pointed out this proposal is in the
spirit of what Council is trying to do through the moratorium.
Councilwoman Fallin said she would like to see the gravel path
put in, at least, and that the sidewalk district should be in the
condominium documents.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to approve the f final plat of the Hamwi
subdivision and exemption from GMP including conditions 1, 2,
changing 3 and requiring the path as shown on the site plan and
in the condominiumization that owners should join any future
sidewalk improvement district, and stating in condition #2 prior
to recordation of final documents, and deleting the first
sentence in condition #6; seconded by Councilman Gassman. This
is for four units, 3 free market and one employee unit. All in
favor, with the exception of Councilman Isaac. Motion carried.
BERKO BUILDING APPEAL
Mayor Stirling said there was a letter submitted to Council
appealing a decision by the Historic Preservation Commission, and
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Council needs to find if there is sufficient evidence that either
abuse of discretion or denial of due process to decide to have an
appeal. Fred Gannett, city attorney's office, said the a ppeal
has been filed; the question is how Council wants to hear it.
Gannett said the Council has the choice whether to consider the
letter to be a request for an appeal. Gannett told Council he
construed the letter to be an appeal. Gideon Kaufman, represent-
ing .the applicant, said he should have a chance to address
whether or not there should be an appeal. Councilman Isaac said
based on the petition that was given to Council, an appeal is
being made.
Councilman Gassman moved to set a hearing for an appeal on the
HPC approval to allow the removal of the Berko building; seconded
by Councilwoman Fallin.
Gannett said Council has to decide to hear an appeal within 60
days and they should set a time and place in a duly constituted
meeting. Gannett said he will send out notices to the parties.
Kaufman said the issue before Council is whether this is a real
appeal and the reasons why there is the need for this appeal.
Kaufman said the authority of the HPC is diluted by the provisi-
ons of the Code which provide for an overly broad appeal process.
Kaufman said the way the code is written, anyone for any reason
can appeal. Kaufman questioned who is in a better position to
make this decision; the HPC who spent 15 hours listening to this
project, or another group. Kaufman told Council this was a
difficult decision. The HPC was unanimous in saying they
understood the arguments of this side. Kaufman said the stan-
dards for appeal are abuse of discretion and Council has to find
this is not within the bounds of reason.
Kaufman said everyone agrees this is a valid differing of
opinion. Kaufman said Council cannot substitute their own
judgement for that of the HPC. Kaufman said he does not under-
stand how this can be overturned. Kaufman reminded Council the
Berko building is not to be moved until the whole process i s
approved, including Council' s review. Kaufman questioned the
necessity of interfering with the HPC's decision when Council has
an opportunity to review this. Mayor Stirling said he feels it
is better to make it easier for citizens to appeal decisions
rather than harder.
All in favor, motion carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to set the date for the hearing Wednesday
November 9, 1988, at 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.; seconded by Council-
man Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
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Gannett suggested a cut of f date of Novembe r 2, 19 8 8, f o r a 11
testimony to be submitted. Council agreed. Bill Poss, HPC, told
Council the GMP scoring meeting will be held November 8, 1988.
Kaufman suggested postponing the GMP scoring. Ms. Houben told
Council the planning office has specifically set aside November
8th for the GMP scoring. Council said they supporting moving the
GMP meeting to the next week.
BANNERS AT THE WHEELER OPERA HOUSE
Councilwoman Fallin moved to table this to October 24, 1988;
seconded by Mayor Stirling. All in favor, motion carried. Mayor
Stirling said he feels these banners are the violation of the
sign code and should not be put on the Wheeler permanently.
IMPOUND LOT LOCATION
Tom Delassandri, police department, told Council they have looked
at several locations. The locations that are most attractive are
Iselin park, water plant and Red Roof because they are close to
the city. Delassandri said the recommendation is to continue the
current location for this winter. Delassandri said staff has
researched this and has found a removable fence so that a
temporary impound lot can be constructed for the winter.
Delassandri said the police department is working on their
records system so they can be more efficient in sending out
notices to owners of cars that have been towed. The police
department will also notify the state about vehicles that have
been abandoned so these cars can be moved to the dump location.
Delassandri said the problems with the other location are that
the costs of tow would increase from $45 to $100 due to time and
travel increases. Delassandri said the number of cars towed per
hour would be cut in half if they were towed to the water plant.
Delassandri said there is an issue if the water plant location
could be insured because of its isolation. Delassandri another
issue is transporting the owners of towed cars, and the tow
company is unwilling to transport people in their trucks.
Councilwoman Fallin said she does not want to see the impound lot
on the Rio Grande one more season. Councilwoman Fallin said she
favors the water plant location. Delassandri said the tow
company does have some concerns about whether they can tow the
cars up to that site. Councilwoman Fallin said she objects to
the city being concerned about the tow charge. If people park
illegally, being towed is their burden.
Councilman Tuite asked if the city has considered j ust moving
cars to another block that has already been plowed and fining the
owners. Gannett said the tow company would say if they don't
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have an impound lot, they will not tow because their chances of
recovering the money is diminished. Delassandri said during the
peak season, between 20 to 30 cars per night are towed. Putting
them around the corner could cause some problems.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct the city manager to research the
idea of leaving the cars on the street or towing them to another
block and come back on October 24; seconded by Councilwoman
Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
Jim Markalunas, water department, told Council it will be almost
impossible to get the cars up the water plant road. The curve is
sharp and steep and the road does not get plowed. Delassandri
said there is also a concern about the people driving their cars
back down the road.
Maxwell Aley requested the Mills property to be advanced on the
agenda. Mayor Stirling moved to move up the Mills item; seconded
by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
CONTRACT AWARD - Hockey Rink Dasher Boards
Councilman Gassman moved to take the higher bid from Holmsten Ice
Rink; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion
carried.
MILLS PROPERTY
Mayor Stirling said the memorandum from Bill Efting states he
took this proposal to the men's golf association concerning
funding to help purchase the Mill lot on the golf course. Mayor
Stirling said the golf association is not interested in finan-
cially backing the purchase but was interested in seeing the
city reshape holes #6 and #15. Councilwoman Fallin said the golf
association feels holes #6 and #15 would be greatly improved by
putting in the dog legs.
Councilman Gassman moved to accept Bill Efting's recommendation;
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Maxwell Aley, representing the applicant, told Council Mills
wants to sell the property and has a lot of interest in the sale.
Aley said he would like an expression from Council that they have
no interest nor ability to purchase the property.
All in favor, motion carried.
City Manager Bob Anderson said that is what the motion is
expressing.
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RFTA SIGN REQUEST
Councilman Tuite moved to table this item; seconded by Councilman
Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
FLUORIDATION OF CITY WATER
Mayor Stirling said the f luoride costs about $12,000 per year in
the water.
Councilman Tuite moved to remove fluoridation from the city water
system before the end of the year; seconded by Mayor Stirling.
Councilman Isaac said this issue has come up a number of times
before. Councilman Isaac said there is evidence that fluoride is
a help to dental health, and it is a benefit the taxpayers get
from city water service. Councilman Isaac said the city should
continue to fluoride the water. Councilman Gassman said people
are better off when they are responsible for their own health.
Councilman Gassman said for the city to take a paternalistic
attitude of they know what people need is not an appropriate role
and it assumes that people are not capable of taking care of
themselves.
Councilman Tuite said there is evidence that fluoride is not good
for the elderly. Councilman Tuite said the less that can be put
in the water, the better. Mayor Stirling said he views this as a
choice situation. Mayor Stirling said the purpose of putting
fluoride in the water seems to be to treat the consumer; it
doesn't make the water any better. Mayor Stirling said he thinks
fluoride is toxic.
David Swersky said he does not see many kids with dental disease
in Aspen. Swersky said this is the finest public health measure
that has ever been introduced in the United States. Swersky said
fluoride does occur naturally in the water here at .3 parts per
mill ion and the treatment raises it to 1 ppm. This is not a
toxic level. Swersky said a town as progressive as Aspen would
be in arrears to abandon this program at the small cost of
512,000 per year. Mayor Stirling said research shows fluoride is
not saf e f or everyone . Swersky disagreed. Bill Wesson said
fluoridation of water is regarded as a major health triumph.
Wesson said there is no question that fluoride has a tremendous
impact on reducing dental disease. Wesson said scientific
results show that 1 ppm of fluoride is optimum.
Mayor Stirling said it is time f or people to understand that it
is the adequate intake of tooth building materials, vitamins and
whole grains in proper diet rather than having fluoride put in
the water by the city. Wesson said there may be a need for more
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information to make a choice on this. Wesson said fluoride is
one of the 4 active halogens. It is difficult for other elements
to replace fluoride.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilmembers Isaac and
Fallin. Motion carried.
RESOLUTION #32, SERIES OF 1988 - Block 19 Annexation
Assistant City Manager Mitchell said this is an application for
annexation that meets at the statutory requirements. This is the
first step in the annexation process. This was petitioned by 100
percent of the owners.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to approve Resolution #32, Series of
1988; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion
carried.
RESOLUTION #33, SERIES OF 1988 - Approving Use Tax Agreement
Councilman Gassman moved to approve Resolution #33, Series of
1988; seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, with the
exception of Councilwoman Fallin and Mayor Stirling. Motion
carried.
ORDINANCE #39, SERIES OF 1988 - Castle Ridge Agreement Amendment
Councilwoman Fallin moved to read Ordinance #39, Series of 1988;
seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #39
(Series of 1988)
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THAT MODIFICATION/SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT CONCERNING THE PURCHASE AND SALE OF CASTLE
RIDGE APARTMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF ASPEN AND CASTLE
RIDGE ASSOCIATES, LTD, AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING
THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE SAID AGREEMENT AND ALL NECESSARY
DOCUMENTS ATTENDANT THERETO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
ASPEN was read by the city clerk
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #39, Series of 1988,
on first reading; seconded by Mayor Stirling.
Assistant City Manager Mitchell reminded Council they have
reviewed the issues of this modification agreement. Mitchell
said staff is close to a final agreement. The open items is
whether the annuity value is going to be in the 205 or 170 range
and the principal balance due once the note is paid off will be
higher or less. Mitche ll recommended to pursue the higher
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annuity value of $205,000, which would make the principal
balance due at the $800,000 figure. Mitchell said the other
issue to be resolved is how the rental cap would work. Mitchell
said two caps, whichever would be higher, would be the housing
guidelines or $.85 per square foot increased at 3 percent per
year. Mitchell said these issues will be worked out before
second reading.
Councilman Isaac asked if the city is better off sticking with
Castle Ridge Associates or finding a new operator. Mitchell said
if the city does not re-negotiate the agreement, Castle Ridge
Associates has the option of filing bankruptcy. Mitchell said if
th e city takes the project over, they would be facing the same
costs. Councilman Tuite agreed the city should be looking at
taking the project back.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Gassman, no; Fallin, yes; Tuite,
no; Isaac, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to suspend the rules and meet 15 more
minutes; seconded by Councilman Tuite. Councilman Tuite and
Mayor Stirling in favor; Councilmembers Isaac, Fallin and Gassman
opposed. Motion NOT carried.
Staff requested that Council deal with the Red Roof Inns and
paving the alley.
Councilman Gassman moved to reconsider; seconded by Mayor
Stirling. All in favor, with the exception of Councilwoman
Fallin. Motion carried.
RED ROOF INNS WINTER USE
Assistant City Manager Mitchell said staff is recommending the
city be the overseer of the Red Roof operation in the winter so
that it can be opened up f or housing during the winter. The
housing authority will process and qualify renters. Mitchell
said the city will hire a manager for the winter.
Councilman Isaac moved to approve this; seconded by Councilman
Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
BOARDS AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS
Councilwoman Fallin moved to appoint Alan Bush as a regular and
Casey Coffman as an alternate to the Clean Air Board; seconded by
Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to appoint Don Erdman as a regular
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member and Joe Krabacher, and Chris Durakis as alternates;
seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to reappoint Jasmine Tygre to appoint
Mickey Herron as a regular member to appoint Bruce Kerr as a
regular member and Graeme Means as an alternate; seconded by
Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
PAVING THE ALLEY BETWEEN MONARCH AND ASPEN
Elyse Elliott, engineering department, reminded Council staff was
directed last year to pave the alley between Monarch and Aspen
street. Ms. Elliott said the staff received the bids last month.
Staff estimated the job at $10,000; the only bid received was
for $25,000. Ms. Elliott told Council the engineering department
has $17 ,000 to complete the project . Ms. Elliott said staff
attributed the high bid to the fact that there is so much
construction work this summer. Ms. Elliott told Council the
original design had an invert going down the alley. Ms. Elliott
told Council staff redesigned the alley to put a crown in the
middle. Ms. Elliott told Council staff awarded the contract and
the contractor agreed to do the crown design for $17,000.
Ms. Elliott told Council there was a concern from a resident of
the alley that runoff water would be going into their property.
Ms. Elliott told Council she had taken this into consideration,
and the amount of water is minimal. The streets department
preferred the crown rather than the invert because there is not
an ice build up in the center. The street department finds this
easier to maintain. Ms. Elliott told Council the last alley the
city did was behind the Snowflake, which has a crown in it and
there have been no complaints. Ms. Elliott told Council histori-
cally in this alley there has been no runoff pattern. There is a
slope down towards Aspen street, where most of the runoff will
go. Ms. Elliott told Council the city is in a legal contract
with the contractor and he will pursue litigation if the city
were to try and back out of the contract.
Chuck Vidal said the first half of the alley is paved with an
invert and the two should be coordinated. Vidal said he would
really like to see the rest of the alley paved. Vidal said he
hopes no problems are created with the two types of alleys and
that the water drains somewhere. Vidal said the invert should be
continued another 15 feet to the high point of the alley. Mayor
Stirling said the city is paving the alley f or dust control and
for drainage. Mayor Stirling said there are two letters from
neighbors asking that this project be re-bid next spring. Mayor
Stirling said he is not voting on this issue because of the
controversy. Ms. Elliott said the Council can appropriate
another $8,000 and have the alley done with a crown. Fred
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Gannett, city attorney's office, said the city has a contract and
the damages would be the profit margin.
Councilman Isaac moved to .direct the engineering department to
proceed with the new crown design for the alley at approximately
$17,000; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Ms. Elliott told Council she was instructed not to do this
project during the summer but to re-bid it after Labor day.
Councilman Gassman said the prices of contract are better in the
spring and this project could wait until spring. Vidal suggested
talking to the contractor about having him do it in the spring to
see what kind of price he would give the city.
Councilman Isaac amended his motion to include discussing with
the contractor to see if he is willing to renegotiate for spring
construction; seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, with
the exception of Councilman Gassman. Motion carried.
Council left Chambers at 9:30 p.m.
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Kathryn Koch, City Clerk
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