HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19890403Continued Meetinq Aspen City Council April 3, 1989
DRUG GRANT APPLICATION 1
ORDINANCE #7, SERIES OF 1989 - Substantive Code Amendments 5
AMENDING DRUG AND ALCOHOL POLICY 10
GOLF COURSE PARKING LOT 10
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Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. with
Councilmembers Isaac, tuite, Fallin and Gassman present.
DRUG GRANT APPLICATION
Mayor Stirling said this is a grant from Communities for a Drug
Free Colorado for a drug information officer. Mayor Stirling said
the application has to be presented this week. John Goodwin,
police chief, told Council this grant is intended to address the
crime of illicit drug dealing and none others. Goodwin said the
salary for the drug information officer is provided by the grant
monies with 25 percent participation from the city. Goodwin said
the city's participation will come from money seized in a drug
arrest.
Goodwin said the $3,000 training request is for police officers to
be able to act responsibly in the arresting of people who deal
drugs. Goodwin said the police department has applied for money
for radio scramblers so the police can communicate without people
listening in. A night scope is also in the grant in order to be
able to see if drug deals are being made in public at night.
Goodwin said undercover operations are not a part of this grant.
Goodwin said the same methods of investigation will be used as are
used with all other crimes. Goodwin said the police department
receives information about crimes. They check out the reliability
of the information and of the informant. Goodwin said the police
department is looking for people who deal drugs, not use drugs.
Goodwin said they will compare their information with other
agencies in the valley. Goodwin said this will enhance public
safety through a more intensive investigative procedure and
training. Goodwin reiterated undercover work will not be part of
what the agencies will do.
Goodwin said dealing drugs is not a victimless crime. Goodwin told
Council in 1988, the police department received reports of 1435
crimes. It is a common estimate that about 10 percent of actual
crime gets reported to the police. Goodwin said 90 percent of the
crimes in this town are drug related; 90 percent of the people
arrested were either under the influence of a substance or after
in custody it was determined they had a chronic substance abuse
problem, including alcohol. Goodwin said 70 percent of the police
budget is spent on reacting to substance abuse and crimes related
to substance abuse. Goodwin said in the last 7 years there have
been 3 murders in Aspen, all directly related to cocaine. Goodwin
said statistics indicate that 75 percent of all family violence
cases are drug related. Goodwin said billions of dollars are spent
addressing drug abuse in American society.
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Goodwin said this grant will not reduce the local efforts at
education, prevention and rehabilitation. The money for this grant
has been allotted to law enforcement alone and money allotted to
education and rehabilitation is not touched by this grant at all.
Goodwin said if this grant is not used for law enforcement, it
cannot be used for something else. Goodwin said he feels announc-
ing to drug dealers in the community that they are at greater risk
is important. Goodwin said he feels this project will discourage
rumors as currently the police department gets information they do
not act on. Goodwin told Council he anticipates this will be a
full time position. Goodwin said the program can be evaluated at
the end of a year to decide whether it is not a full time position,
not to continue with the program, or reapply at a smaller rate.
Goodwin said the program will be evaluated by the police chief,
sheriff and Communities for a Drug Free Colorado, and there are
requirements to evaluate the program throughout it's existence and
at the end of a year.
Goodwin said the focus of this program is to encourage the
community to take responsibility for its own health and peace.
Goodwin said recognized strategies for communities to address
problems with drug use consist of prevention, intervention,
treatment, law enforcement and after care. Goodwin said currently
the law enforcement component in not in proportion with the other
efforts in the community. Goodwin said the police department is
involved with ASAP, with the school district, and in the liquor
server training. Goodwin reminded Council the police department
applied for and received a detox van. Goodwin said the applicants
for this grant will go to Denver later this week and make a
presentation. City Manager Bob Anderson said the staff does not
want to be in a position where they accept the grant, and the City
Council decides to reject it.
Goodwin said this is a joint application with the county and the
sheriff has committed to going forward with the grant application.
Goodwin said there is a serious trafficking problem in Pitkin
County. Councilman Tuite asked how come a drug plan or officer had
not been requested during budget sessions. Goodwin said this last
budget was his first one and he was addressing issues that were
more basic. Mayor Stirling said if the police department with the
current level of personnel cannot respond to this issue, the
emphasis should be reallocated. Anderson said the police depart-
ment was going to ask for 3 more officers during budget time.
Anderson said there has been annexation and an increase in crime
reports. Anderson said it is not unusual to change priorities
during the year given funding possibilities. Councilman Tuite said
he supports more law enforcement personnel. Councilman Tuite said
he would rather have more uniformed officers on the street, and if
this were not a grant, the Council would probably not be discussing
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it. Anderson said this is last minute because that is the way the
grant came to the city.
Larry Dragon, director of community education ASAP, urged Council
to support this grant. The grant will not cost the city any money.
Dragon said the grant will give a chance to put some risk into
dealing drugs. Dragon said this is an opportunity to put to rest
the myth that dealing drugs is a victimless crime. Arlene DeVries,
director of ASAP, told Council drugs and alcohol cost this
community a lot of money. Ms. DeVries said it is everyone's
problem and everyone needs to be part of the solution. Ms. DeVries
said in order to prevent and reduce substance abuse, a comprehen-
sive, multi-faceted approach is needed. Ms. DeVries said this is
an opportunity to give a message to the community.
Chris Bigley said if there is trafficking in this valley, the drugs
are going to come in through the airport. Bigley said the airport
should be a place where things are checked. Bigley said there
should be a committed effort to the health of the community. Steve
Crockett said this seems to be rushed through the process because
the city saw some available money. Crockett said this project
will accelerate the distrust of law enforcement and may constitute
an invasion of privacy. Crockett said projects like this have a
- tendency to get out of control. Crockett said he does not feel the
problem exists in a sufficient magnitude to warrant this level of
response. Crockett urged Council not to act in haste and to gather
more information from the community on the magnitude of this
program.
Walter Ganz said this grant is directed against drug dealers. Ganz
said Aspen has a sensitive and good police department, and they
will not step on civil rights. Frank Peters said no one would
argue there is a substance problem in Aspen. Peters said the
question is whether Aspen is going to be taking a hand-me-down
policy with the $40,000. Peters said the police department better
serves the community when they are wearing their uniforms and doing
their investigations. Goodwin said there will be surveillance as
part of this program, surveillance is what any normal citizen can
see. Mary Ellen Smiddy told Council when the students did a drug
and alcohol survey, one of the things they said what they could not
believe adults did not know what the dealers in town were.
Chuck Vidal said the community has been sending out a statement of
live and let live. Vidal said he would like to see a tough policy
adopted. Vidal said by not adopting this, the city will be sending
out the same statement. Sy Coleman said the police department may
need to change their priorities, and to increase the level at which
the police department deals with the drug problem. Coleman said
this grant commits the city to an outside agency which circumvents
the Council. Coleman said the Council represents the opinions of
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a message that the town wants to clamp down on drugs . Councilwoman
Fallin said she does not want any infringement on people's rights.
Councilwoman Fallin said if the city does not receive the grant,
Council should look at making this a priority within the police
department budget.
Council clarified the grant to not include night scopes, that it
be local emphasis, not at the airport, and there be an evaluation
process including Council.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Gassman. Motion
carried.
ORDINANCE #7, SERIES OF 1989 - Substantive Code Amendments
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing.
Alan Richman, planning director, reminded Council at their last
public hearing, they made duplexes in the C-1 zone a prohibited
use, and in the office and RMF zone they are a permitted used with
one of the two units restricted to the middle income affordable
housing guidelines. Richman told Council staff is taking this to
P & Z with the concept of making it applicable in all the residen-
tial zones. Councilwoman Fallin said she would rather have
duplexes in the office zone a conditional use. Councilwoman Fallin
said she does not want to dilute the office zone. Richman said if
one of the reasons for moving duplexes to conditional use is to
make is less attractive without making it a non-conforming use,
this will achieve that goal.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to reconsider making duplexes a permitted
use in the office zone; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in
favor, motion carried.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to make duplexes with one unit deed
restricted be a conditional use in the office zone; seconded by
Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
Council had no changes or amendments to the FAR bonus section
The third issue is the section to repeal and reenact the section
regulating demolition of historic landmarks. Richman said the main
issue has been to come up with better review standards to insure
when demolition applications are reviewed that the city has
adequate tools to determine demolition is inappropriate, to look
at relocation plans. Richman said currently the only thing
regulated through these demolition standards are structures rated
4 and 5. Richman said staff is concerned about structures rated
1, 2 and 3 as they have no protection. Richman suggested Council
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consider expanding the number of structures on the historic
inventory that is subject to demolition review.
Mayor Stirling moved to include in Ordinance #7 protection for
structures rated 1, 2, 3; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Richman said staff will notify each individual owner of the change
in status of their structures. Richman said rather than debating
the merits if a structure should be saved, staff ends up debating
whether a structure should be a 2, 3, or 4. The real issue is what
is happening to the town. Richman said this action is an expansion
of the original ordinance. Richman suggested separating this out
into its own ordinance, or at a minimum, renoticing the ordinance.
Mayor Stirling withdrew his motion.
Mayor Stirling moved to remove ##16 in the memorandum and have it
brought to Council as a separate ordinance and have a first reading
April 10; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Richman said number 4, 6, and 10 will become and unnecessary if a
separate ordinance is done. Councilman Isaac said he is concerned
about losing houses in the next two weeks. Mayor Stirling said the
only way to avoid that would be to institute an administrative
delay. Fred Gannett, city attorney's office, said if Council
leaves this ordinance intact, structures in some zones will still
be protected.
Mayor Stirling withdrew his motion.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct the city attorney to bring a first
reading on a full demolition protection ordinance for April 10;
seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Councilman Tuite said the city has always taken the position that
anyone caught in the process has been able to complete the process
because they acted in good faith.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Tuite. Motion
carried.
Councilman Isaac moved to initiate an administrative delay for
demolition of structures on the historic inventory; seconded by
Mayor Stirling.
Chuck Vidal said when people come and talk to staff about projects,
sometimes the staff and Council reacts. Councilman Isaac said if
the city has to notice all the historic structures in town that
there will be a review process, this will take time and the city
may lose a dozen structures. Gannett said in the last administra-
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tive delay, Council put in an exemption process. Mayor Stirling
said he feels the city should go through the process without
creating an administrative delay
Councilman Isaac in favor; everyone else opposed. Motion NOT
carried.
The next section is a proposal to amend the HPC appeal provisions,
define who can appeal and institute a call up provision. Richman
said these changes have not been controversial.
Councilman Gassman moved to approve #17; seconded by Councilman
Tuite; All in favor, motion carried.
Richman said in the minimum maintenance requirements, staff amended
the language to add that the normal penalties of the Code would not
apply to violations of this section, that there is some account-
ability for this program, allowing an extension beyond the 10 year
period. Richman told Council Gannett is working on the loan to
value ratio criteria. Gannett said in order to get the loan to
value, an applicant may have to go to a title company, which will
cost money. Mayor Stirling said the loans will be so low on a
property that has increased in value that this may be unnecessary.
Councilman Tuite said even if the city does not get the money back,
they have maintained a house that is in the inventory. Council
agreed not to include this amendment.
All Council favored this section.
The next section addresses variation requests in PUD and SPAs.
Richman told Council SPA and PUD are very similar processes. In
the past, staff has looked at combining them. Richman reminded
Council SPA allows all the variations that are allowed in PUD plus
it allows variations in use and in density. Richman said these two
things the city would never think about allowing in PUDs. Richman
said the items that have been of most concerns in reviewing SPA and
PUDs have been the ability to vary FAR, density and height.
Density is only allowed to be varied in SPA. Richman said the
minority position of P & Z was not to eliminate the height
variation but j ust the FAR and density . P & Z has recommended that
limits be placed on PUD and SPA, and the form of those limits would
be the terms minimal or modest and that a clear basis be given for
the compensation or the benefit that is given to the community for
those variations, whether it's increased open space, increased
setbacks, or some kind of an economic or social benefit.
Richman said originally staff suggested that minimal and modest are
too loose; they are subject to everyone having a different
interpretation. Richman told Council the more he thought about
this, the more he started to move on to the side of the minority
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P & Z position. Richman said one reason he is changing to
supporting no FAR and density increase is the experiences the staff
has had in going the Code amendment process. Richman told Council
the development community has bid up the cost to the community of
the code amendments. Richman said this also happens in the PUD
process. Richman said no one will ever agree what is a reasonable
trade off for more FAR or for more density. Richman said the city
is better off not having the ability to bid things up. Richman
said he feels Aspen would be better served right now with a process
that does not allow increases in size.
Councilman Tuite said he agrees, and asked if the Hotel Jerome
could have been restored if they had not gotten the FAR bonus.
Richman said the height would have been allowed. Richman told
Council it would be impossible to answer if the Jerome would have
been built at underlying zoning. Richman said the city has never
given a density bonus through an SPA and the Meadows is not asking
for a density bonus. Mayor Stirling said the question that occurs
to him is why there is any quid pro quo at all. Mayor Stirling
questioned how one can made a determination what an ice rink is
worth or what a park is worth in terms of additional units.
Mari Peyton, P & Z member, told Council the city should make
exception for historical buildings. Ms. Peyton said historical
buildings could be rezoned or they could be exempt. Chuck Vidal
said the city gets stuck in thinking about points in time. Vidal
said there would have been a point given the economic conditions
of this community where the Jerome would have been renovated, and
there would have been a time where it would not have happened.
Vidal said the developer speaks to Council about today's condi-
tions, and Council doesn't always have to respond to satisfy
economic conditions today.
Joe Wells said he thought the thrust of the PUD process was to make
a decision at what point a project has greater public benefit than
cost. Wells said there a more philosophical issue in the long run.
There is a benefit in public improvements that bears no relation-
ship to the cost of the improvements. Wells said it is clear this
change is directed at very specific language in the code having to
do with lodges that are approved under PUD. Wells said the first
is that~the limitation on the size of lodges is tied only to the
amount of square footage that is approved by Council. Secondly,
the density cannot be varied in a PUD but there is no density
assignment for lodge rooms. Wells said one way to get at the
problem is to establish a density for lodge rooms. Wells pointed
out that P & Z has clearly decided not to take that approach and
has forwarded language that says that lodge rooms are not density
related.
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Wells said the other approach is to take away the flexibility on
FAR so that the number of lodge rooms is governed by the FAR that
is established in the zone district. Wells said in doing this
Council may not have given consideration to the effects on
residential projects on raw land. Wells told Council his bias is
for clustered residential development with the maximum amount of
open space. The market place right now is for the largest lots
possible, the maximum amount of exclusivity and privacy for the
buyer of single family lots. Wells said it would be unfortunate
to send the development community a signal that the city is not
interested in trying to come up with a better project for the
community by discussing flexibility under the PUD provisions.
Wells said he would like Council to preserve some flexibility to
get better projects.
Bil Dunaway said flexibility remains in other things that can be
varied. Dunaway has the time has come when the community is saying
that they are not going to increase the size of development above
underlying zoning. Frank Peters said P & Z is put in a difficult
position when they take on the burden of what they think increased
FAR is worth in terms of community benefits. Peters said minimal
or modest seems like a small incentive for developers, and it is
not worth the effort. Peters suggested the city make PUD mandatory
for projects over 27,000 square feet. Mayor Stirling said that is
an intriguing suggestion, and suggested Council look at this as a
separate issue.
Perry Harvey told Council the Meadows has submitted a proposal.
There is no zoning on the, property, and the submitted proposal
calls for a certain density and FAR within the guidelines of
certain zone districts. Harvey told Council the Meadows applica-
tion is in negotiations with groups throughout the community who
are giving input and discussing issues like greater density and
greater open space. Harvey said he has never seen an SPA or PUD
development submission come out the way it went it. Harvey said
he is concerned about limits when he does not know what is going
to happen to the Meadows proposal. Richman agreed this application
will probably change in the process. Harvey said they have already
submitted the proposal prior to the enactment of this ordinance and
it may not apply to the Meadows SPA. Gannett said it depends on
the stage at which the application is, to the reliance they have
made with respect to the existing districts. Mari Peyton pointed
out this cannot have any effect unless Council zones the land. If
Council zones the land, then it has underlying zoning and the FAR
cannot be varied. Ms. Peyton said if the process continues the way
it is, the zoning will not go on until approval for the SPA. Wells
said someone has pointed out that rezoning is a solution. Wells
said in 95 percent of the examples, rezoning is inappropriate
because the land may be zoned at the highest intensity already or
there may not be an alternative zone district that would accom-
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modate the existing uses. Wells said spot zoning is also a
problem.
Mayor Stirling moved to eliminate in Section 7-804 (d)(2) the word
external and minimum lot area per dwelling unit and in bold print
the balance through the word appropriate; seconded by Councilman
Isaac.
Councilman Isaac asked about giving an exception for historic
buildings. Richman said he cannot think of a historic building
where a planned unit development will apply. Councilman Gassman
asked if the intent is also to amend the PUD section.
Mayor Stirling amended his- motion to include the PUD section to
eliminate subsection (i) the word external and the bold that
follows, leaving the last paragraph; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Mayor Stirling said he regrets losing some flexibility but the
community has reached a point where it is under a lot of pressure
and there are limits. Mayor Stirling said the only way is to take
away discretion from the Council and to protect the scope and scale
of the town. Mayor Stirling said he feels minimal and modest can
be defined in many different way, and the best interest of the
community is very ambiguous.
Councilwoman Fallin asked if there will be some degree of flexibil-
ity. Richman said there is the ability to increase height.
Richman noted a lot of the zone district map is designated PUD,
areas that are required to go through PUD like steep slope, stream
banks, etc.
All in favor, motion carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to continue the public hearing to April 10;
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to continue the public hearing on Ordinances
8, 10, 13, 14, to April 10; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All
in favor, motion carried.
AMENDING DRUG AND ALCOHOL POLICY
Mayor Stirling moved to table this to April 24; seconded by
Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
GOLF COURSE PARKING LOT
Mayor Stirling moved to pave the golf course parking lot and go
with the bid amended due to less activity; seconded by Councilwoman
Fallin.
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Councilman Gassman said he feels it is a mistake to put a major
expanded parking lot at the entrance to town. Councilman Gassman
said the community has struggled to keep the entrance to town
different from other communities. Councilman Gassman said this
seems to fly in the face of many long term community objectives.
Mayor Stirling said he does think a golf course can be run without
a parking lot. Councilwoman Fallin said as long as cars are going
to be driving to the golf course and in an effort to clean up the
dust, the city has to do something with the parking lot. Mayor
Stirling agreed about the dust and the air quality.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Gassman. Motion
carried.
The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Kathryn Koch, City Clerk
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the community. Crockett said this seems to be asking the police-
department to solve problems which start in the home.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to support the application by the police
department for a grant from Communities for a Drug Free Colorado;
seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Councilman Tuite said he wants to see the money spent in the
community on enforcement, not at the airport. Goodwin said what
the Council directs is what he will represent in Denver. Goodwin
told Council the section he applied under is a multi-jurisdictional
intelligence gathering function, and Basalt, Aspen, Snowmass,
Pitkin County are involved in the grant. Goodwin said the grant
has been narrowly defined as an information officer. Councilman
Isaac said he is amazed that information is coming in the police
department, and they are not able to do anything about it because
of other work. Councilman Isaac said he does not see this
application as a change in attitude of the police department.
Councilman Isaac said this grant is only for one year, and if the
city gets the grant, there should be a review in 6 months.
Mayor Stirling said his major concern is the violation of civil
rights of the citizens in town and the issue of undercover work.
Mayor Stirling said people fear their individual rights may be
threatened by this grant. Mayor Stirling said the evaluation of
this grant has to be expanded beyond the police chief, the sheriff
and the state in order for him to support this. Mayor Stirling
said an evaluation should be done by Council and some other local
groups. Mayor Stirling said he is also concerned about reallocat-
ing resources within the police department, and that this could
have been done without applying for the grant. Anderson said this
will be a good experiment for a year. Anderson said this grant is
not anticipating undercover personnel or a lot of high tech
regalia. Anderson said he feels the city ought to take advantage
of this opportunity.
Mayor Stirling said he will support this if there are no night
scopes, there is no undercover work, and there is a clear evalua-
tion process in order to give the community a chance to comment.
Mayor Stirling said there is a potential in this grant to move the
community more towards health and awareness. Councilman Gassman
said the drug problem is getting worse in the face of enormously
increased expenditures of law enforcement. Councilman Gassman said
Aspen has been lucky because of the people who have been working
on the problem and in trying to get people to be healthy.
Councilman Gassman said he feels that is the correct approach.
Councilman Gassman sid he cannot support this drug grant.
Councilwoman Fallin said she supports this grant for a year and
because the people involved are saying they need even more help.
Councilwoman Fallin said this drug grant and work will be sending
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