Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19901008Aspen City Council Regular Meeting October 8, 1990 CITIZEN PARTICIPATION 1 COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS 1 CONSENT AGENDA 2 LIQUOR LICENSE TRANSFERS 3 SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS - Grassroots 3 ORDINANCE #63, SERIES OF 1990 - Crown PUD Amendment 3 ORDINANCE #64, SERIES OF 1990 - Whitcomb Final PUD 3 19 91 BUDGET 4 ORDINANCE #60, SERIES OF 1990 - Cottage In-Fill Code Amend- ment 4 FEE WAIVER POLICY 6 RESOLUTION #46, SERIES OF 1990 - Light Rail 7 ASIA 1989 COMMERCIAL GMP APPLICATION 7 ORDINANCE #65, SERIES OF 1990 - Moores Lot Split 9 ORDINANCE #67, SERIES OF 1990 - Kellner Condominiumization 10 ORDINANCE #68, SERIES OF 1990 - Rezoning Ice Garden to Public 11 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 12 13 Aspen City Council Regular Meeting October 8, 1990 Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 5:05 p.m. with Councilmembers Tuite, Pendleton, Gassman and Peters present. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION 1. Patti Lecht said it is not cost efficient to add more concrete to the Meadows area and to build another entrance. Ms. Lecht said there is a lot of wildlife in the Meadows area and another road would disturb them. Ms. Lecht suggested considering the road separately from the Meadows master plan. COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS 1. Councilwoman Pendleton announced ASAP has been awarded the community partnership grant of $238,000 for 15 months beginning October 1st. This grant is designed to assist communities in mobilizing all components to implement alcohol and drug abuse prevention systems for the community. Councilwoman Pendleton said ASAP is one of only 95 communities awarded one of these grants. ASAP also has a on-going responsibility to maintain financial and volunteer support from the community in order to qualify for years 2 through 5 of the grant. 2. Councilwoman Pendleton told Council she has been contacted by the child care task force. They would like a work session with Council in order to set up some regulations and to use some of the .45 sales tax for child care. Carol O'Dowd, city manager, suggested staff meet with representatives of the child care task force first and then let Council know when a work session is needed. Council agreed. 3. Councilwoman Pendleton encouraged the community to get involved in the Aspen area comprehensive plan. Councilwoman Pendleton said there are 3 community meetings scheduled, October 29, November 15, and December 6 at 5:30 at the red brick school gymnasium. 4. Councilman Tuite announced RFTA has reached an agreement with the Skiing Company for transit services. This is basically a one year contract. Councilman Tuite said he will provide a summary to highlight the agreement. 5. Councilman Tuite asked the status of the water conservation ordinance. Carol O'Dowd, city manager, told Council this is being worked on by city's water counsel and should be done soon. 6. Councilman Tuite said Council has been looking at a site to purchase for housing and at possible source of funds. Carol O'Dowd, city manager, said the finance staff is looking into this and will have a memo for the next meeting. Councilman Tuite said 1 Aspen City Council Regular Meetinq October 8, 1990 the County may be interested in a partnership on this land. Ms. O'Dowd said there are no funds available in 1990. 7. Mayor Stirling said the Commissioners have requested a joint work session on the rail alignment. Mayor Stirling said the city, county and Snowmass managers suggested in a memo that the 3 governments have a series of public meetings on this alignment. Mayor Stirling said the county has requested this work session be October 15 a 3 p.m. to look at these alignments. Council agreed. 8. Mayor Stirling said Council needs to schedule a work session to evaluate the city manager and the city attorney. Council schedule this for December 3 at 5 p.m.; one hour each. 9. Mayor Stirling said Council should have an advance with the city manager to work on the mission statement, goals and notes from the last two town meetings to start processing that information. Council scheduled this for November 13 at 3 p.m. 10. Mayor Stirling presented a letter received from the Aspen Valley Improvement Association dated September 24, 1990, on the development of Aspen institute lands and requested it be made part of the record. 11. Mayor Stirling said Council received a letter from Skip Hamilton congratulating Council on the passage of and the support for the pedestrian bikeway plan. Mayor Stirling said Council needs to determine citizen involvement in this plan. 12. Mayor Stirling said as part of the comprehensive plan work, there was a meeting of sons and daughters of families who were born here and who want to be part of the planning process . They all talked about their hopes and dreams for Aspen. 13. Carol O'Dowd, city manager, announced the staff has set up a fund "Save the Meadows" for people to drop off money at the cashier. Mayor Stirling said he has had a call from the Colorado Open Space Committee saying they would like to be involved financially and in helping approach other groups. CONSENT AGENDA Councilwoman Pendleton moved to approve the consent agenda; seconded by Councilman Tuite. The consent agenda is: A. Minutes - September 24, 1990 B. Marolt House Lease - Gish All in favor, motion carried. 2 Aspen City Council Regular Meeting October 8, 1990 LIQUOR LICENSE TRANSFERS Councilman Gassman moved to approve the transfers for Log Cabin, Sushi Masa to Legends of Aspen, and Aspen Mine Company; seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, motion carried. SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS - Grassroots Councilman Gassman moved to table this to October 22; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE #63, SERIES OF 1990 - Crown PUD Amendment Kim Johnson, planning office, told Council this is to amend the Aspen Club PUD final development plan to expand one of the residences by adding a deck and expanding the bedroom. P & Z approved this with some concerns about the Aspen Club condominium plat being updated to reflect all the small changes. Mayor Pro Tem Gassman opened the public hearing. There were no comments. Mayor Pro Tem Gassman closed the public hearing. Councilman Peters moved to adopt Ordinance #63, Series of 1990, on second reading; seconded by Councilman Tuite. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Tuite, yes; Peters, yes; Pendleton, yes; Gassman, yes. Motion carried. ORDINANCE #64, SERIES OF 1990 - Whitcomb Final PUD Kim Johnson, planning office, said this is the adoption of a final development plan for a duplex which will replace an existing duplex on Park Avenue. The PUD is required because of the overlay in the zone district. This has received stream margin approval. Ms. Johnson noted that condition #10 should be struck because there is not an existing ditch easement so it does not have to be amended. Mayor Pro Tem Gassman opened the public hearing. There were no comments. Mayor Pro Tem Gassman closed the public hearing. Councilman Tuite moved to adopt Ordinance #64, Series of 1990, on second reading as amended deleting condition #10; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. Councilman Peters said he had a hard time understanding where the PUD regulations came into play on this particular project. Councilman Peters recommended staff examine the policy of PUD overlays in neighborhoods like this in the context of the com- prehensive plan. 3 Aspen Citv Council Regular Meeting October 8, 1990 Roll call vote; Councilmembers Tuite, yes; Peters, yes; Pendleton, yes; Gassman, yes. Motion carried. 1991 BUDGET Mayor Pro Tem Gassman opened the continued public hearing. Councilman Tuite moved to continue the public hearing on the 1991 budget to October 22; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE #60, SERIES OF 1990 - Cottage In-Fill Code Amendment Leslie Lamont, planning office, told Council this code amendment is designed to allow detached accessory dwelling units on residen- tial parcels through conditional use review. Roxanne Eflin, planning office, told Council the HPC has been working with property owners of historic outbuildings and on converting them into dwelling units or habitable spaces. Ms. Eflin told Council the suggestion was made during preservation week to expand this to new dwelling units, subordinate to the principle building. Ms. Lamont told Council the ordinance amends the definitions for a detached accessory dwelling unit, which is deed restricted to resident occupancy only, not by price or income. The owner of the principle residence does not have to rent the units; if they choose to rent them, the occupant must qualify through the housing authority. This is a conditional use review through P & Z. Ms. Lamont reminded Council during a earlier work session, a cap on these units of 750 square feet allowable floor area was established, 350 square feet of that may be a floor area bonus. Anything above the 350 square feet comes out of the allowable floor area. P & Z may make dimensional variations of the rear and front yard setbacks in reviewing these proposals; The ordinance proposes a minimum side yard setback of 3 feet. The maximum site coverage may be varied up to 5 percent. Ms. Lamont said staff is recommending these units only be allowed on parcels that have an alley or secondary access or existing garage or carport. In the R-6 zone there is a height limit on the rear one-third of the parcel of 12 feet. Staff is proposing this height limit be changed to a maximum of 16 feet. For existing non-conformities, staff is recommending that P & Z may make dimensional variations based on the non-conformity as long as that non-conformity is not increased. Ms. Lamont told Council this ordinance amends the code to allow accessory dwelling units in multi-family structures that do not have to meet the requirements of growth management. Ms. Lamont reminded Council they discussed providing a financial incentive to people who want to build this type of unit. Ms. Lamont suggested a financial incentive if 4 Ashen City Council Regular Meeting October 8, 1990 someone chose to deed restrict the unit to price and income. Another suggested incentive is tap fee waiver but only for totally deed restricted units. Ms. Eflin said the staff is considering an information booklet for the public on the cottage in-fill program to fully describe the regulations. Ms. Eflin showed examples of this type of booklet from Boulder. Ms. Eflin said the planning office needs funding for this type of brochure. Councilman Peters moved to read Ordinance #60, Series of 1990; seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE #60 (Series of 1990) AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE ASPEN LAND USE REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 24 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE CITY OF ASPEN, BY ADDING OR AMENDING DEFINITIONS AND BY AMENDING ARTICLES 5, 7, AND 8 OF CHAPTER 24 SO AS TO PROVIDE AND/OR CLARIFY REFERENCES TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS was read by the city clerk Councilwoman Pendleton moved to adopt Ordinance #60, Series of 1990, on first reading; seconded by Councilman Peters. Councilman Tuite asked why the allowable floor area was reduced from 850 to 700 square feet. Ms. Lamont reminded Council at their work session in July concern was expressed that these units would become too big. Councilman Tuite requested Council consider a unit large enough to hold a family rather than one person. Councilman Tuite said he would like to see the city be more aggressive in the incentive program. Perhaps the housing authority could finance part of these units if the units were fully deed restricted. Councilman Tuite said this could be potentially cheap employee housing. Councilman Peters said he feels the size is too big. Councilman Peters pointed out Council has tried to create incen- tives for affordable housing. These failed because property owners perceived these were too dense or were not sensitive to neighbor- hoods. Councilman Peters said he would like this to create some housing without creating a lot of controversy in neighborhoods. Councilman Peters said whatever limit is put on the FARs is what the city will get. Councilman Peters said cottage in-fill is not the solution to family housing in Aspen. Councilman Peters said he would like to see some rehabilitation incentives in place. Mayor Stirling agreed about the size and one objection of a neighborhood will be the massing issue. Mayor Stirling said the 16 foot height limitation and working on setbacks will help with the massing issue. Mayor Stirling said he does not 5 Aspen Citv Council Reaular Meeting October 8, 1990 feel these will be family-type units. Councilwoman Pendleton agreed these units are not designed for families. Councilwoman Pendleton said using in-lieu fees for some of the construction costs is a good idea. Councilwoman Pendleton said spending a lot of money on an information booklet seems imprudent. Councilman Gassman agreed about the booklet. Councilman Gassman said he would be cautious about financing these units or giving large incentives; these might not be needed. Councilman Gassman said this ordinance has had a lot of work by staff and by commissions, and it shows. Phoebe Ryerson asked what happens to the rental unit when the owners of the principle house want to sell. Ms. Eflin said this has not been discussed but staff will go over it by second reading. Ms. Lamont pointed out the issue in flexibility and review of the rear yard setback is the streets department who will need to look at the applications to make sure there is enough room for snow removal. Councilman Peters agreed this ordinance does not warrant a brochure but one could be combined with affordable housing zone district regulations. Councilwoman Pendleton moved to adopt Ordinance #60, Series of 1990, on first reading; seconded by Councilman Peters. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Peters, yes; Pendleton, yes; Tuite, yes; Gassman, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried. FEE WAIVER POLICY Mayor Stirling said he is interested in a 100 percent replacement incentive of some kind. Councilman Peters said replacement gets complicated when tap fee waivers are put into the computation; park dedication and planning fees are simple. Councilman Peters said there are incentives in ordinances to achieve the highest level of community interest. Councilman Peters said ordinance #1 does not have incentives. The city should stem the tide of demolition as much as possible. Councilman Peters said he would like to see something in the demolition/replacement ordinance to encourage people to do more than the bare minimum. Councilman Tuite said he does not see a large downside to tap fee waivers in order to build affordable housing in town. Councilwoman Pendleton said she would like this to be at Council's discretion in affordable housing projects. Councilwoman Pendleton said tap fees are incredibly high. The tap fees could be on a sliding scale. Councilwoman Pendleton said she does not favor a deferred or time payment for the tap fees. Mayor Stirling agreed he would rather err on the side of flexibility. Councilman Tuite asked if Council would consider this retroactive to the beginning of the discussion. Jeffrey Evans suggested Council look at whether there are sufficient incentives to make a 70/30 project work; there should be subsidy for the affordable units in a project like that. 6 Aspen City Council Regular Meeting October 8, 1990 Councilwoman Pendleton said she would like to have a work session. Carol O'Dowd, city manager, said staff will take suggestions from previous meetings and develop a program for that work session. Council scheduled this for November 5 at 5 p.m. Staff will look at an installment payment system. Caswall suggested Council review what the city charges for water tap fees. Councilman Tuite said he would like to use the "Robin Hood" approach and does not want to give benefits to people who do not give anything back to the community. Council agreed to look at why the tap fees are what they are and if they are valid. Councilman Peters said he opposes using housing sales tax or cash-in-lieu funds for tap fee sub- sidies. Councilman Peters said Council has to decide how much this fee waiver will cost and where the money will come from. Council requested staff concentrate on water tap fees only. RESOLUTION #46, SERIES OF 1990 - Light Rail Carol O'Dowd, city manager, told Council this is a follow up of work being done through the Roaring Fork Forum, called the valley rail project. Ms. O'Dowd said the first part of the work has been to focus where the alignment should be. The forum has reached agreement from Glenwood Springs to the Pitkin County line. The entities in Pitkin County have not yet resolved their specific alignment. Ms. O'Dowd told Council there has been a review and analysis of the Kaiser study and the technologies. The Forum has concluded that a light rail system should be used; the specific technology has not been chosen. Ms. O' Dowd said the Forum is going to work further with federal and state agencies to develop a funding package. Ms. O'Dowd said the forum has been advised if they can confirm the communities throughout the valley are willing to work together and are coming in for funding or to the state together, this will be received more receptively. Councilman Peters moved to adopt Resolution #46, Series of 1990, endorsing a valley-wide light rail system in accordance with the recommendation of the Roaring Fork Valley Forum; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. All in favor, motion carried. ASIA 1989 COMMERCIAL GMP APPLICATION Leslie Lamont, planning office, reminded Council in 1989 the submission date for growth management was moved to January 1, 1990. In 1990 various GMP exemptions eliminated the commercial quota in the office zone. Ms. Lamont reminded Council the law requires the city to provide at least 30 percent of the quota for competition. The commercial quota in the office zone was 1200 square feet. Ms. Lamont told Council the city received one application for the entire commercial competition, Asia competing for the 1200 square feet in the office zone. Asia requests 1200 square feet from the 7 Aspen City Council Regular Meeting October 8, 1990 1989 quota as well as 1,641 of net leasable square feet from the 1990 allotment. Ms. Lamont told Council P & Z reviewed and scored the application and found that it exceeded the minimum threshold for each review category. P & Z also approved the change in use; Asia is providing employee housing on-site and using existing building on-site. Asia applied for two special reviews; reduction in parking for employee housing and to reduce the required amount of parking on site for an office, from 3 spaces per 1,000 square feet to 1.5 spaces per 1,000 square feet with a cash-in-lieu. The applicant is requesting an allocation of 1200 square feet from the 1989 quota, GMQS exemption for employee housing for the provision of two dorm style housing units to house 4 people each, deed restricted to the low income guidelines. Asia is also asking for a multi-year develop- ment a 11 otment o f 16 41 square feet from the 19 9 0 quota . Ms . Lamont told Council the submission date for the 1990 commercial quota was September 15th. There was one application for the office zone, which was Asia who submitted in case they did not receive a multi- year allotment. There is 4, 000 square feet available in the office zone quota for 1990. There are 3 resolutions for Council approval; GMQS exemption and the 1989 allocation to Asia; the overall 1989 commercial allocations; and the 1990 allocation of multi-year. Dennis Green, representing the applicant, told Council they feel this is a good project for a multi-year allotment. Staff and planning commission have recommended this; it meets the criteria that construction over a two year period is impractical, the impact on the neighborhood will be less if this is constructed at one time, and that services are available. Green pointed out if it were not for projects exempted in 1989, the full quota would have been available. Green told Council Asia is the only application for the 1990 quota and it is likely the P & Z would evaluate the application for 1990 the same way the application was evaluated for 1989. Green said the applicant has already spent a lot of time and money responding to the concerns and suggestions of staff, HPC and P & Z. The buildings have been reduced and the design has changed. Councilman Peters moved to adopt Resolutions #43, 44 and 45; seconded by Councilman Gassman. Charles Cunniffee showed Council in the existing building, the lower floor plan is being changed into dormitory as well as the east side of the building next to the new proposed office building on the second floor. There will be restaurant space on the ground level. Councilman Peters agreed it is redundant and wasteful to have to make two applications for this project. Councilman Peters said 8 Aspen City Council Regular Meeting October 8, 1990 this project is a symbiotic relationship between a restaurant and an office. Jed Caswall, city attorney, recommended Council adopt each resolu- tion separately in order to make the appropriate finding and then make allocations. Councilman Peters withdrew his motion. Councilman Peters moved to adopt Resolution #43, Series of 1990; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. All in favor, motion carried. Councilman Peters moved to adopt Resolution #44, Series of 1990; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. All in favor, motion carried. Councilman Peters moved to adopt Resolution #45, Series of 1990; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE #65, SERIES OF 1990 - Moores Lot Split Councilman Tuite moved to read Ordinance #65, Series of 1990; seconded by Mayor Stirling. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE #65 (Series of 1990) AN ORDINANCE OF THE ASPEN CITY COUNCIL GRANTING SUB- DIVISION EXEMPTION FOR THE MOORES LOT SPLIT, DESCRIBED IN METES AND BOUNDS, AT THE N.E. CORNER OF GILLESPIE STREET AND LAKE AVENUE was read by the city clerk Councilman Tuite moved to adopt Ordinance #65, Series of 1990, on first reading; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. Councilwoman Pendleton asked if there should be something in the ordinance referring to the environmentally sensitive zone. Kim Johnson, planning office, told Council first reading of the ESA is scheduled for October 22 ; the second reading of this ordinance will be at the same meeting. Ms. Johnson said any plans submitted for building permit and are in process while a new zoning overlay might come into play, whatever rules in effect by the time the permit is released, the structure will have to comply with those regulations. Ms. Johnson said whatever development occurs on this lot will have to comply with the ESA. Jed Caswall, city attorney, told Council the provision in the code which calls for 15 day publication is adopted from a state statute which applies to statutory cities. Caswall said Aspen passes land use by ordinance because of a specific provision in the Charter. The provision of 15 days is to provide time for people to appear 9 Aspen City Council Regular Meeting October 8, 1990 on the date of the public hearing. Caswall told Council courts have held that the normal legislative process supplies due process. Caswall told Council in this ordinance staff has noticed for public hearing for October 22. Carol O'Dowd, city manager, said staff will address this to avoid redundancy. Councilman Peters said it is his intention on passing this on first reading to require the applicant to subscribe to the regulations of the environmentally sensitive area when it is passed. Joe Wells, representing the applicant, said if the ESA is adopted, they still have to get a conditional use approval for an accessory dwelling unit for each lot. Wells told Council they have been working with ACES for months and expect to resolve the concerns. Amy Margerum, planning director, told Council it would be prudent to add a condition that the applicant agrees to comply with the provisions of the environmentally sensitive habitat overlay. Ms. Margerum said that is the intent and what everyone has been working on. Councilman Peters moved to add condition #14 that the applicant accept the formulations and requirements of the environmentally sensitive overlay for design purposes; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. Wells pointed out the code language says Council shall approve a lot split application that complies with the standards. Wells said this application complies with those standards and it is not appropriate to add a condition to the approval of the lot split that an unadopted regulation be complied with. All in favor, motion carried. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Pendleton, yes; Gassman, yes; Peters, yes; Tuite, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried. ORDINANCE #67, SERIES OF 1990 - Kellner Condominiumization Mayor Stirling withdrew from the room due to a conflict of inter- est. Kim Johnson, planning office, told Council this ordinance will condominiumize a duplex at 728-730 West Bleeker in the Victoria Square subdivision. There is a list of engineering requirements for the plat that the applicant can work out. Councilman Peters moved to read Ordinance #67, Series of 1990; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE #67 (Series of 1990) 10 Aspen City Council Reqular Meeting October 8, 1990 AN ORDINANCE OF THE ASPEN DIVISION EXEMPTION FOR THE KELLNER DUPLEX LOCATED AT VICTORIA SQUARE SUBDIVISION) CITY COUNCIL GRANTING SUB- CONDOMINIUMIZATION OF THE 728-730 W. BLEEKER (LOT 5 was read by the city clerk Gideon Kaufman, representing the applicant, said the housing fee is $16,000. A person gets a construction loan, which is limited, and then a permanent loan which is tied to the appraised value. Kaufman said he would like the payment of the affordable housing fee tied to the certificate of occupancy so the money can come out of the permanent loan rather than the construction loan. Kaufman pointed out at time of c/o is when the actual employee impact takes place. Ms. Johnson told Council staff has a hard time coming to closure when the conditions are tied to c/o. Some structures do not apply for their certificate of occupancy. Councilman Peters said giving condominiumization approval is adding value to the site. It is appropriate when adding value to make the exaction. Councilman Peters favors collecting the money when the condominiumization is done. Amy Margerum, planning director, told Council they are trying to tie the conditions to building permit rather than c/o. Council was not interested in changing the condition to certificate of occupancy. Councilman Tuite moved to adopt Ordinance #67, Series of 1990, on first reading; seconded by Councilman Peters. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Pendleton, yes; Peters, yes; Tuite, yes; Gassman, yes. Motion carried. ORDINANCE #68, SERIES OF 1990 - Rezoning Ice Garden to Public Councilwoman Pendleton moved to read Ordinance #68, Series of 1990; seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE #68 (Series of 1990 ) AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF ASPEN, COLORADO, REZONING LOTS A - I, BLOCK 54 (THE CITY OF ASPEN ICE GARDEN, 233 W. HYMAN) FROM R-15 TO PUBLIC (PUB) was read by the city clerk Kim Johnson, planning office, told Council staff is considering capital improvements for the ice garden. The current zoning for this recreation use is non-conforming as an R-15. P & Z approved this rezoning and recommend Council approve it also. Councilman Gassman moved to adopt Ordinance #68, Series of 1990, on first reading; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. 11 Asuen Citv Council Regular Meeting October 8, 1990 Councilman Gassman said this is a decision Council made a couple of years ago when they decided to keep the ice garden where it is rather than move it and sell the land. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Gassman, yes; Tuite, yes; Peters, yes; Pendleton, no; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN Amy Margerum, planning director, told Council there was a good turnout and a lot of enthusiasm at the kick off meeting. Ms. Margerum said there is a lot of distrust about having any type of advisory committee. Ms. Margerum said staff will wait until they have gone through several large community meetings so people feel their voice is being heard. When the community participation process is finished, staff will again address the advisory commit- tee concept. Ms. Margerum said there has been a lot of concern about valley wide issues and why isn't the city doing a valley wide plan. Ms. Margerum said staff agrees with this; however, the Aspen area needs to define its own vision. Ms. Margerum said staff is also concerned about funding and the time in which to do this plan. Ms. Margerum said this process will use the talent that is in this community. There will be 3 big community meetings; October 29, November 15 and December 6 tentatively scheduled in the red brick school gym. These meetings will be very participatory. Council adjourned at 8:15 p.m. Kathryn S ~ Koch, City Clerk 12