HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19910513Regular Meeting Aspen City Council May 13, 1991
PROCLAMATION - National Preservation Week 1
PROCLAMATION - Public Works Week 1
PROCLAMATION - National Transit Appreciation Day 1
PROCLAMATION - Stuart and Isabel Mace 1
CITIZEN COMMENTS 1
COUNCILMEMBERS COMMENTS 2
CONSENT CALENDAR 3
SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT - Jazz Aspen Festival 4
LIQUOR LICENSE RENEWAL - O'Leary's 4
REQUEST TO MODIFY CHANGED LIQUOR LICENSE PREMISES - Laur-
etta's 4
ORDINANCE #13, SERIES OF 1991 - Land Use Code Amendments
ORDINANCE #14, SERIES OF 1991 - Aspen Meadows Final SPA 4
ORDINANCE #9, SERIES OF 1991 - Code Amendment Section 7-602 13
ORDINANCE #11, SERIES OF 1991 - Historic Designations 13
HOUSING AUTHORITY 1990 SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET RESOLUTION 14
ORDINANCE #15, SERIES OF 1991 - Lily Reid Housing GMQS
Exemption and Vested Right 14
ORDINANCE ##16, SERIES OF 1991 - Code Amendment, Lost and
Confiscated Property 16
RESOLUTION #19, SERIES OF 1991 - Mall Leases 17
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Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with
Councilmembers Pendleton, Tuite, Peters and Gassman present.
PROCLAMATION - National Preservation Week
Mayor Stirling and Council declared the week of May 12 to 18
National Historic Preservation week. Roxanne Eflin, planning
office, outlined the events that will occur during the week.
PROCLAMATION - Public Works Week
Mayor Stirling and Council proclaimed May 19 to 25 public works
week to honor employees who clean and fix the streets, sweep snow,
take care of electricity and deliver water. There will be tours of
the Ruedi and Maroon Creek hydropower facilities as well as a tour
of the city's water plant. Bob Gish, public works director,
thanked Council for their continued support.
PROCLAMATION - National Transit Appreciation Day
Mayor Stirling and Council proclaimed May 15 as National Transit
Appreciation Day and presented the proclamation to Dan Blankenship
of RFTA. Blankenship told Council the bus service will be free
throughout the valley on May 15th.
PROCLAMATION - Stuart and Isabel Mace
Mayor Stirling and Council presented a proclamation to Stuart and
Isabel Mace to their invaluable service and immeasurable contribu-
tion to the town of Ashcroft, the Castle Creek Valley and the
community of Aspen.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
1. Charles Hopton told Council he is a member of the citizen's
advisory committee with the forest service working on the draft EIS
for the Conundrum/Marble project. Hopton said there has been an
absence of anyone from the city. The city should be aware of the
ramifications on the city' s water supply if this mine should go in .
In the draft EIS, a lot of concerns are stressed about the water
quality and quantity. Hopton presented Council with letters and a
draft EIS.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct the city manager to evaluate the
information and come back no later than June 10 to give Council
some idea of recommendations; seconded by Councilman Peters.
Carol O'Dowd, city manager, said the planning staff is preparing
comments on this issue.
All in favor, motion carried.
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2. Michael Hutton requested Council issue a proclamation as May
is national bicycle month and have May 31st "Bike to Work" day and
encourage all citizens to ride their bicycles to work.
Mayor Stirling moved to pass a proclamation declaring May 31 "Bike
to Work" day; seconded by Councilman Peters. All in favor, motion
carried.
3. Eloise Ilgen said she is hoping that Aspen will have a
proclamation to make Buena Vista Aspen's sister correctional
facility. Ms. Ilgen told Council there is a meeting scheduled in
Aspen for May 17 with the department of corrections. Ms. Ilgen
said representatives from law enforcement and local clergy will be
attending this meeting.
4. Phoebe Ryerson said the EPA thing on the Smuggler has been a
nightmare to a lot of people. Ms. Ryerson said all of Aspen
mountain is an ex-mining area and will be vulnerable to EPA
investigations. The county and city should say enough is enough.
Ms. Ryerson told Council there was another accident and she hopes
there will be no further delays in helping highway 82 become 4-
lanes.
COUNCILMEMBERS COMMENTS
1. Councilman Tuite told Council the County Commissioners have
set aside time, May 21 at 3 p.m., to meet with current and new
Council to discuss the EPA, what is being done and why.
2. Councilwoman Pendleton said she would like to pursue looking
at locations around town with the idea of buying areas for parks
and to have a presentation for budget time. Councilwoman
Pendleton said more parks are needed. Councilman Peters agreed
there are not enough passive and active parks. Carol O'Dowd, city
manager, reminded Council the Neighborhood Advisory Committee has
already done some work, which could connect with this. Council
asked for follow up on this for a work session in June.
3. Mayor Stirling noted the city received an answer from Limon in
response to the city's suggestion of sharing some tangible items
Limon is struggling to pull together their downtown area. Mayor
Stirling suggested donating two trees in the spirit of friendship
and cooperation.
Mayor Stirling moved out of the contingency fund for 1991 to
allocate $1800 to give two street trees and grates to the town of
Limon; seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion
carried.
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4. Mayor Stirling said he met with the Mayor of Snowmass Village.
The 2 groups should schedule a work session to talk about transit
issues related to corridors between Snowmass and Aspen. Councilman
Peters said this would be a more appropriately discussed with the
County Commissioners . Councilman Tuite said the Commissioners have
met with Snowmass Village and have discussed the transportation
corridors. Councilman Tuite said there is an invitation to the
city of Aspen to participate in these discussions. Mayor Stirling
suggested June 17th as the initial meeting
5. Mayor Stirling said the next school sites meeting is June 11.
The planning director has been charged to look at all issues
related to the red brick site in the way the yellow brick site has
been analyzed. The yellow brick building has been designated as
the early learning center.
6. Mayor Stirling announced that June 21 there will be an energy
session. Tom Baker, assistant city manager, said this meeting will
be to begin a conservation effort. Representatives from lodge,
commercial and residential groups have been invited and will be
making presentations on efficiency. Baker said the first effort
will be to increase efficiency within buildings.
7. Mayor Stirling said the Ritz continued hearing on the proposed
amendment of Section M of the PUD has been changed to May 21st at
5 p.m.
8. Carol O'Dowd, city manager, told Council item (g) on the
consent calendar, Resolution Extending Recordation Deadline for
Devore, can be deleted as it has been taken care of.
9. Mayor Stirling requested the Tagert Lot Split Plat Amendment
be tabled to May 28th.
10. Carol O'Dowd, city manager, told Council the Neighborhood
Advisory Committee is sponsoring a bicycle safety seminar in
conjunction with the police department and RFTA May 2 3 at 4 p . m. at
the parking plaza.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Councilman Peters moved to approve the consent calendar as amended;
seconded by Councilman Tuite. The consent calendar is
A. Minutes - April 22, 29, 1991
B. Council Meeting; May 28th
C. Purchase Fire Hydrant and Repair Materials
D. Resolution #17, 1991 - Solid Waste IGA
E. Aspen Youth Center Request to Use City Property
F. Roaring Fork Kennel Club Request to use City Property
G. Golf Course Capital Improvements
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H. Aspen Food & Wine Classic Approvals
I. Section M PUD Amendment Aspen Mountain Lodge Continuance
J. Child Care Task Force Appointees (These appointees are
Shirley Ritter, Chalmers Morse, Tracy Duhe, Bill
Mitchell, Chuck Frias, and Linda Karaus)
All in favor, motion carried.
SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT - Jazz Aspen Festival
Councilman Peters moved to approve the vending agreement and the
special event permit for Jazz Aspen Festival; seconded by Council-
woman Pendleton. All in favor, motion carried.
LIQUOR LICENSE RENEWAL - O'Leary's
Councilman Peters moved to approve the liquor license renewal;
seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, motion carried.
REQUEST TO MODIFY CHANGED LIQUOR LICENSE PREMISES - Lauretta's
Councilman Peters moved to approve the change in liquor licensed
premises for Lauretta's; seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in
favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #13, SERIES OF 1991 - Land Use Code Amendments
ORDINANCE #14, SERIES OF 1991 - Aspen Meadows Final SPA
Amy Margerum, planning director, stated this is a public hearing
for the Aspen Meadows SPA final development plan and second reading
of Ordinances #13 and #14. Ms. Margerum entered into the record
the certificates of mailing and public hearing notice as well as
the minutes of April 29. Ms. Margerum submitted into the record
more detailed information that was part of the HPC application
submitted and since the last hearing. Ms. Margerum told Council
the HPC did approve the residential portion of the Aspen Meadows
SPA. HPC will take final action on the M.A.A. and academic
proposals on May 22 at 5 p.m. Ms. Margerum recommended approval
with the conditions outlined in Ordinance #13 and #14. All
concerns raised by staff are either addressed in conditions of
approval or are noted in staff reports of April 29 and May 13.
Mayor Stirling said the first Meadows master plan was submitted in
1974. In 1979 the property was sold to Hans Cantrup and until 1983
there was fundamentally a stalemate and no contact between the
Institute and the city. Mayor Stirling said he began discussions
with the Institute in 1983. In 1985 John Roberts purchased
Cantrup's property. Roberts submitted a plan, Aspen Mountain
Lodge, which did not include the Meadows. This was approved in
1985. In 1986 a deed was approved by Council to the Aspen
Institute which declared their ownership of 20 acres on the east
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side. In that agreement, a joint master plan was required so the
entire parcel had to be planned at once. In 1987, the Savanah
group took over the properties. The consortium was formed in 1989.
They made a development application to Council in 1989. Council
moved through a master plan with the applicants and community. In
August 1990 a new proposal was brought to Council, which lead to
this SPA submission. Mayor Stirling said the 25 acres of riparian
land will be purchased by the city and kept as open space, the
lodge base will be expanded, new townhouses will be added, there
will be deed restricted open space, four single family lots,
underground parking, preservation of the Bauhaus architecture in
certain instances, a proposed rehearsal facility, and a Seventh
street access.
Perry Harvey, representing Savanah and the consortium in the
development of this plan, was given the oath. Harvey told Council
this plan has received conceptual approval from Council, P & Z and
HPC as well as final HPC approval for the residential component.
The M.A.A. and Institute facilities are in the process of final
approval before HPC. Harvey noted the format followed in this
process has been to internalize this and to preserve the sanctity
of the campus. The decision was to keep the development on the
external parts of the campus and to preserve the open space in the
center of the campus and the feeling of openness. The riparian
area was zoned for 1 residence per 10 acres; the agreement is to
make this 25 acres city-owned and deed restricted as park.
The overall plan creates a series of lots; (1) Institute property
of about 40 acres including lodges, restaurant, tennis courts, race
track; (2) M.A.A. parcel of existing tent, new rehearsal facility,
parking lots; (3) the physics institute to give them ownership of
their buildings and to preserve their circle of serenity; (4) open
space sold to the city; (5) the 8 existing trustee town houses,
adding 3 trustee town houses. These will all be expanded from 1750
square feet to 2500 square feet; (6) 7 new town houses across from
the old tennis courts, which will be 3-bedroom 2500 square feet;
(7) four single family home site.
The plan involves a new access road, an extension of Seventh Street
paralleling the Meadows road to the east. The applicants have
worked on a transportation plan, which has van service, re-routed
bus service, bike rental program internal to the Institute and
lodging facilities, bike storage to encourage people to use bike
when attending concerts. The Meadows road will be retained by the
city but will be cut down to a pedestrian/bike trail. The property
will be ringed with trails, connected to the Rio Grande. There
will be parking underground at the tennis courts for 96 cars.
Harvey pointed out the residential town houses will have 1 parking
space per bedroom, which will be earth bermed. The carports will
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be put into the berms. Harvey said the concern with the single
family houses was to not create a wall with the 4 houses. The
sites have been turned so there is not rigid conformity. Initially
these were to be 15,000 square foot lots. Council requested these
be cut down to 12 , 000 square feet so 3 , 000 square feet on the north
of the lots will preserve the open space of the track. Harvey said
the rear year setback will be 15 feet rather than 10 feet and deed
restricted so it remains as open space. The covenants state that
50 percent of the side yards have to remain in a natural state and
not be vegetated.
Harvey said the building envelope ranges from 6100 to 6400 square
feet, which is a substantial decrease from what R-15 zone district
allows. HPC has recommended that the envelopes be maintained and
through homeowner covenants variations in roof lines and the
opportunity to be spread out so these are not boxes. Harvey said
they are asking for a variation to push the side yard to 0 lot line
on one house on the east and on one house on the west . This allows
visual site lines between the houses.
Harvey showed the trustee houses with parking into the hillside.
The current carport will be an entry garden. Harvey showed Council
where the tennis town houses will be located. Harvey marked his
drawings into the record as 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Harry Teague was given the oath. Teague entered his slides from
the April 29th meeting into the record as exhibit 5. Teague said
the master plan includes 3 modifications to the M.A.A. facilities .
One is changing the seating configuration inside the tent; another
is a backstage addition; and the third is the rehearsal facility.
Teague said the number of seats inside the tent will be increased
to just over 2,000. The tent configuration will not be changed.
The backstage addition is adding 1500 square feet, 30 by 50 feet
which will include facilities for performers and some additional
bathroom for concert goers.
Teague told Council the exterior of the tent will be modified with
some berms which will prevent noise from entering the tent and will
also provide a better outdoor experience. Teague reminded Council
during the master plan the rehearsal facility was shown in two
places, its location to be resolved during the final development
process. The planning office has recommended the facility be
placed on the east side for several reasons; (1) it will be further
from the Institute and Physic Institute; (2) it would have limited
visual and physical imposition on the open space to the west of the
tent which then extends into the race track open space; ( 3 ) it will
provide better vehicular access and is closer to public parking.
Teague said one issue that has come up is the encroachment on the
outdoor seating with the rehearsal facility. Teague pointed out
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that the outdoor seating has been reconfigured and will increase
about 50 percent the manicured lawn area available for seating.
Teague showed the available outdoor seating on a rendering of the
area. Half of the eastern lawn seating will remain intact. All
vegetation to the east of the tent will remain intact except one
bush. The rehearsal facility is 11,000 square feet providing 500
seats. The facility will primarily be underground. Teague
presented a drawing illustrating the relationship of the new
facility to the tent and its relative height. The new facility
will be more than 15 feet below the highest point of the tent.
Teague showed various elevations of the tent, a plan of the
facility including the public area with the roll up glass doors,
the backstage facility and lower level. Teague presented his
drawings as exhibit 6 for the record.
Fred Smith was given the oath. Smith outlined the Aspen Insti-
tute's properties; the parking garage, the administration building
and restaurant facility, the existing 3 lodge buildings, the
addition of 3 new buildings and the renovation of the Kresge
building with an additional 50 lodge rooms for a total of 110
rooms. Smith pointed out the tennis facility which will be
replaced with 6 new courts. The first court will be on grade with
the Meadows road; the next two courts will be decked over 96
parking spaces. The grade at the southernmost end of the parking
structure will be at the Aspen Meadows road. The entrance to the
parking structure will be approximately where the pro shop
currently is. There will also be storage for 60 bikes. At the
highest point the parking structure will be 6 feet from natural
grade. Smith noted the parking will be naturally ventilated and
partially obscured from site by rock rubble walls, the new pro shop
and restrooms.
The second major building is the restaurant/administration
building. Smith told Council the intention is to leave the
building pretty much the way it is, close in the second story deck.
No addition will be made to the footprint. The next predominant
building is the health club which will be expanded by 1800 square
feet, all on the back side. The front will have no exterior
changes. Smith told Council the changes will be to provide an
expanded health club.
Last are the Institute's lodging facilities which were designed by
Herbert Bayer in the Bauhaus architectural style. Smith said the
goals for the Institute's properties are to preserve the landscap-
ing and to enhance the open space areas. Smith said the parking
under the tennis courts will allow the areas historically used for
parking in front of the lodge unit to be opened up. The lodge
units will be two stories as they are today. Smith said these
buildings were conceptually approved by HPC and final review will
be May 22nd. Smith entered his drawings into the record as exhibit
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7. Smith told Council about 14 trees will have to be removed.
These will be replaced caliper for caliper with healthy trees in
new locations and will keep the landscaped character of the
institute.
Harvey told Council the M.A.A. parking lot is being reconfigured
and the number of spaces will be increased. The transit plan has
separated pedestrian, bicycle, auto and bus traffic to minimize
conflicts.
Gideon Kaufman, representing the Aspen Institute, reminded Council
the master plan designated two alternative sites for the rehearsal
facility. The eastern site received recommendations of approval
from the planning office, P & Z and Council. The selection of the
eastern site was accomplished with a public hearing with comments
from citizens preferring the eastern, western and no location.
Kaufman requested Council confirm their earlier decision for the
eastern location.
Kaufman said the other issue is the need and safety of the Meadows
road. Kaufman said the classification of the new Meadows road as
a local street was determined by a qualified traffic engineer, Bob
Feldsburg. The road was designed by engineers; the intersections
meet all accepted safety requirements. The variations being sought
from zoning standards are acceptable from a safety and design
perspective. The variations are needed to maintain the rural
character and nature of the roads and maintain the safe design.
The city staff has concurred with the variations. The variations
have only been sought where the applicants felt it was inappropri-
ate to design a road that did not fit within the character of the
neighborhood.
A. J. Zabbia and Bob Feldsburg were given the oath. Zabbia told
Council the road intersections have evolved as the criteria has
changed, such as existing utilities, safety, city design standards,
trees, topography and irrigation ditches. Zabbia presented a map
of the roads outlining the fill areas and cut areas; a profile for
the roads conforming to city standards; a configuration of old
Meadows road. Feldsberg submitted a copy of his qualifications
for the record. Feldsberg said his role has been to assist the
transportation committee in developing a traffic mitigation plan;
they were also involved in the conceptual master plan in selecting
the access route to the property, recommending Seventh street be
the primary access to the property. Feldsberg said another issue
they became involved in is trip generation estimates related to the
project. Based on these estimates is how Feldsberg has defined the
classification of the road as a "local" road. Feldsberg told
Council he looked at volumes and function of the road. Feldsberg
said the trip generations out of the Meadows were estimated at 1100
vehicle trips per day using the city's trip generation without the
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mitigation plan. The mitigation plan could be successful in
reducing these trips by 25 to 30 percent. Meadows road is serving
a function of providing local access to a specific activity area
and individual lots, which says functionally this is a local road.
Feldsberg said a finding of fact should be made by Council that
this is a "local" road. Feldsberg opined the design of the road is
acceptable and will operate safety. The alternative before Council
dealing with Meadows road and the intersection represents the best
combination of all objectives and variables that need to be taken
into account. Feldsberg said Seventh street is the best connection
up to the existing and new highway 82.
Kaufman said the last issue is the sufficiency of the subdivision
and SPA final plats. Kaufman said Aspen land use approvals are an
evolutionary process. Kaufman said there has been input from
staff, P & Z, HPC and Council as well as comments from citizens.
As a result the plats change and are modified. The plat that
ultimately gets recorded shows only similarity to the original
plat. Kaufman noted the plat is only one part of the applicant's
platting documents. Kaufman said the only things not available at
this time are TV and electrical routing and working drawings for
every complete segment of the road. The applicants have been
focusing on the intersections; when these are finalized the working
drawings for the whole road can be done. Kaufman told Council as
items are finalized, they are added to the plats and drawings.
Kaufman said what is important is that the reviewing bodies are
aware of what they are approving and modifying. Kaufman said there
have been countless meetings between the applicant, staff, public,
HPC, P & Z and Council. Every element of the plan has been
reviewed in detail. Kaufman said this process has met the spirit
of the intent of the law and sufficient detailed information has
been made available to all bodies and to the public to evaluate
each and every element of the application. Kaufman said the
scrutiny of this project has been unprecedented; the public, P & Z
and Council are fully aware of all elements of the plan.
Councilman Peters asked if Savanah owns this property outright, and
are there any liens outstanding against the property. Harvey
answered that Savanah owns the property outright. There is a lien
by Savanah to one of the general partners; there is no outside
lien. Councilman Peters asked if there is an agreement between the
partners that the lien be released when the final plat is filed so
the subdivision can be consummated. Harvey said there are written
understandings by both partners that they will intend to proceed
with the approval process and to transfer the lands free and clear
of any liens. Councilman Peters asked if there is a way to make
that agreement part of this record. Harvey said the final plat and
SPA signatures on behalf of the partnership will satisfy that.
Harvey said the transfer will be unencumbered. Councilman Peters
asked if the long standing tradition of informal and free outdoor
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seating for music festival activities at the tent continue. Robert
Harth, M.A.A. director, said yes.
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing on Ordinance #13, Series
of 1991, land use code amendments. Mayor Stirling pointed out this
adds new zone districts to the Municipal Code. These new zones
were inspired by the submittal of the Aspen Meadows. This also
amends the growth management quota system for essential public
facilities.
John Doremus said he feels the race track area being zoned to
Wildlife preservation is inappropriate as it is surrounded on 3
sides by fairly intense development. Doremus said open space would
be a more appropriate zone. Doremus said if this is an important
wildlife area and it is important to retain it in it's present
state, how can the city consider a storm water retention facility
on the race track. Caswall pointed out Ordinance #13 does not
rezone any property; it creates various zoning district amendments
and amendments to the land use code. Doremus said storm retention
facilities are a use by special review and would be totally
inappropriate for wildlife preservation zone.
Tom Cardamone favors the new wildlife preservation zone. This
would also be appropriate for Hallam Lake when it is annexed into
the city. Cardamone pointed out the 25 acres of riparian land is
extremely valuable to wildlife. Cardamone said the race track
would be of secondary importance to wildlife; however, the race
track should be preserved as much as possible.
Harvey pointed out in open space and wildlife preservation,
permitted uses do not indicate underground utility uses. Harvey
asked if this is a blanket approved use in any zone district.
Staff said yes. Harvey said the applicants have only proposed
underground storm water retention facilities. The applicants have
proposed the city be required to put their storm water detention
underground. Harvey said this easement has now consumed the entire
race track area. Harvey urged Council to remove surface storm
water detention as a conditional use in the WP zone district.
Chuck Roth, city engineer, told Council the 1973 urban runoff plan
was adopted by Council and is part of the municipal code. Any
subdivision is required to comply with this section. Roth told
Council an easement has been identified in the race track area.
This would be a storm runoff detention pond for the entire west end
of Aspen, not just this project Roth said the clean water act is
imminent. Ms. Margerum noted i?~'could be a great cost to the city
if the city were absolutely limited to underground and not surface
detention ponds. If this is a conditional use, it will have to
undergo a public hearing process and the development will have to
meet the intent of the zone district. Ms. Margerum said this
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should be assurance for the future that this will not be a
monolithic structure. Phoebe Ryerson asked if trails are permissi-
ble in the WP zone. Mayor Stirling said they are possible.
Caswall reminded Council this is an ordinance of general applica-
tion and storm detention ponds may fit in other WP zones, not just
the Meadows. Councilwoman Pendleton asked if this should also be
a conditional use in the open space zone. Ms. Margerum said this
is an appropriate addition. Councilman Peters asked if there are
other zone district that allow this use. Caswall said Aspen has
been developed to the point where there is no place left to develop
storm water detention facilities which will be necessary to meet
federal guidelines to maintain the quality of the rivers in the
area.
Gideon Kaufman requested a language change on the bottom of page 5,
paragraph 3 to read, "such development from the GMQS and from some
or all mitigation requirements". Caswall said this clarifies the
intent. Charles Collins pointed out permitted uses states, "any
uses approved within a final development plan" and any use is
rather a broad conclusion. Uses are normally specific. Collins
said if the permitted uses are going to be amended, they should be
specific. Ms. Margerum said the intent is that the property would
have an SPA overlay. The SPA overlay allows one to vary any uses
as long they are approved by Council. Ms. Margerum said there are
very limited properties in the city that have an SPA overlay on
them. Ms. Margerum said the reason this is included is that on a
piece of property where there is an SPA overlay, one is allowed to
vary uses. If the underlying zoning is academic, staff wanted to
make sure this was not construed as non-conforming with the
underlying zone district. The purpose is to insure the uses are
not perceived by a f financial institute as being non-conforming with
the underlying zoning.
Collins said this ordinance appears to be mixed in a custom-like
manner for this particular application. Collins said this will
have implications for all applications before the city. Ms.
Margerum told Council staff is recommending the land use code be
amended to allow the subdivision regulations be varied if there is
an SPA overlay. This is to allow staff and applicants be a little
more creative while still maintain the safety and public health
needs, especially with respect to roads. Ms. Margerum said this
would allow narrower roads and lower development needs and to do
things that are not necessarily appropriate in a major subdivision,
certain engineering design standards that would not be appropriate
in an area where the city is trying to maintain the rural charac-
ter. Ms. Margerum recommended the code be amended to allow the
strict subdivision standards be gotten around when there is an SPA
overlay.
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Ms. Margerum told Council the code amendment allows for discretion
on Council's part to exempt an essential public facility from the
growth management competition, which is already allowed in the code
as well as from some or all of the mitigation requirements. This
is done on a case by case basis. Kaufman pointed out the ability
to vary uses presently exists under an SPA. The proposed change is
the language in design standards of section 7-104(c)(4). Collins
asked about the language on page 5, "existing non-profit entities
may be exempt from GMQS" and questioned the wording as selective or
prejudicial. Collins asked if the existing non-profits may be
grandfathered. Ms. Margerum agreed with striking the word
"existing". Connie Harvey said stating development for a non-
profit entity can be exempt from GMQS and mitigation requirements
could be dangerous. Ms. Harvey said there should be restrictions.
People may create non-profit organizations to get around this.
Mayor Stirling said this is a good warning; this is at the
discretion of Council after a public hearing.
Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Pendleton moved to adopt Ordinance #13, Series of
1991, as amended to delete the word "such" Section 5 paragraph 3
last sentence and replace with "some or all"; under Section 2
conditional uses, bringing across the same conditional uses as in
the WP zone to the OS zone; deleting "existing" in non-profit
entities; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Councilman Peters said he feels Section 1 should be deleted; The
academic zone with an SPA overlay is very narrowly defined. This
is redundant as the same effect is accomplished in the SPA overlay.
Uses can be varied, which is an argument not to include Section 1
in the ordinance. Councilman Peters asked if the SPA should be
abdicated, would the underlying zone survive. Councilman Peters
said there is no need for this section, and there is in fact a
danger in including it.
Councilman Peters moved to delete Section 1 from Ordinance #13,
Series of 1991; seconded by Mayor Stirling.
Kaufman said lending institutions need redundancy. Kaufman said
the Institute has talked to banks about this and they are uncomfor-
table lending money where land is zoned SPA and uses are non-
conforming. Ms. Margerum said it is up to Council not to allow
uses that will not fit in. Ms. Margerum said trying to specify the
uses may be more of a problem. The uses being proposed for the
Meadows are very close to those already allowed in the academic
zone district. Harvey told Council SPA is not something that is
understood throughout the country. The issue is that if the uses
are allowed in the underlying zone district, that' s a great comfort
to a lending institution. Mayor Stirling said he is concerned
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about approving something that has difficulty getting financial
support.
Councilman Peters withdrew his motion to delete Section 1.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct staff to take into consideration
observations made about Section 1 and bring this back at the
continued public hearing May 20.
Councilman Peters said he would like the engineering department to
investigate if there is a different way to allow and design a
facility for storm water runoff. Councilman Peters said he feels
Section 5 is very narrow and written too selectively. Mayor
Stirling requested staff look at Section 5 in the same context as
looking at Section 1.
Mayor Stirling moved to continue the public hearing on Ordinance
#13, Series of 1991, to May 20 with the staff directed to make
comments on the observations made specifically on Sections 1 and 5;
seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #9, SERIES OF 1991 - Code Amendment Section 7-602
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilman Peters moved to adopt Ordinance #9, Series of 1991, on
second reading; seconded by Councilman Tuite. Roll call vote;
Councilmembers Tuite, yes; Gassman, yes; Peters, yes; Pendleton,
yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #11, SERIES OF 1991 - Historic Designations
Roxanne Eflin, planning office, told Council each of these 3
historic designations will have an accessory dwelling unit
attached. Each of these meets 2 of the 6 standards for designa-
tion. Each of them is requesting the $2,000 grant.
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilman Tuite moved to adopt Ordinance #11, Series of 1991, on
second reading; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. Roll call
vote; Councilmembers Pendleton, yes; Peters, yes; Tuite, yes;
Gassman, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
Councilman Gassman moved to approve the $2 , 000 grant to each of the
3 designated landmarks; seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in
favor, motion carried.
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HOUSING AUTHORITY 1990 SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET RESOLUTION
Mayor Stirling said it looks like there will not be the anticipated
surplus and a subsidy is still required. Lynn Dunlop, county
finance department, told Council at the very end of the process of
closing the 1990 books for the housing authority, an allocation of
administrative time was put back in operations so the subsidy will
go up some. The city and county will reconcile the final changes.
Councilman Gassman moved to approve the housing authority resolu-
tion for supplemental appropriations; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
All in favor, motion carried.
Councilman Peters said the payment-in-lieu monies of $922,000 were
paid back to the city and county. Councilman Peters said he would
like to know the policy implications of this. Ms. Dunlop told
Council in the city felt they would be more appropriate to handle
its investments. Councilman Peters said the housing authority has
expressed an interest in putting together a pool of money, payment-
in-lieu money, to use as seed money for projects.
Councilman Peters moved to direct staff to work with the housing
director to develop some portion of the cash-in-lieu payments to be
used for pool resources for housing authority development; seconded
by Mayor Stirling. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilman Tuite moved to table Ordinances 6, 7, 8, 10 and 12,
Series of 1991 to May 28; seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in
favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #15, SERIES OF 1991 - Lily Reid Housing GMQS Exemption
and Vested Right
Councilman Gassman moved to read Ordinance #15, Series of 1991;
seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #15
(Series of 1991)
AN ORDINANCE OF THE ASPEN CITY COUNCIL VESTING THE
DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND GRANTING A GMQS EXEMPTION FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE LILY REID PARCEL LOTS A, B,
AND C OF BLOCK 81, ASPEN TOWNSITE was read
by the city clerk
Leslie Lamont, planning office, told Council this application is
for a GMQS exemption for affordable housing, vested rights, and a
clarification from Council on Section 8-104, enlargement of a
historic landmark. Ms. Lamont reminded Council the applicant
intends to redevelop the 9,000 square foot parcel that was
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historically designated by Council last July. The Lily Reid
cottage will be preserved, the cleaners building will be demolished
and a 3 story with full basement office and retail building will be
reconstructed.
Ms. Lamont told Council staff questions whether demolition and
reconstruction of a non-historic building on a designated parcel
should receive the benefits afforded landmark structures under
Section 8-104 of the Code, which is exempt from various levels of
mitigation. Ms. Lamont said the Code addresses expansion of an
existing building's floor area. Section 8-104(a) talks about the
demolition and reconstruction of commercial and office space. This
requires mitigation of employee and parking. Ms. Lamont told
Council the way the applicants have interpreted the code, their
employee mitigation is 6.9 employees. In the code, this mitigation
could be for approximately 15 employees.
Councilman Peters said the argument to extend historic designation
to the entire site was that it would streamline the review process;
there just was not time to go through the growth management system,
get allocations and build. Councilman Peters said the project has
not yet been built and the approvals are not complete. From the
point of facilitating the time line, it was necessary to histori-
cally designate the entire site.
Larry Brooks, applicant, told Council they have been working on
this project for a long time. Brooks said during the process the
applicants made it clear it required the entire parcel be histori-
cally designated in order to tear down an existing building to
accommodate the Lily Reid house and to build a building around the
house. Gideon Kaufman, representing the applicant, told Council
there are 2 sections in the Code. One is the historic section
which gives the ability to exempt parking and housing requirements.
The section staff is referring to deals merely with the tearing
down of an existing building that is not historically designated.
Kaufman said the argument before Council was the appropriateness of
designating the entire parcel to receive the benefits of historic
designation for the whole Council.
Larry Yaw showed Council a model of the project. Yaw said a key
element of this is moving the Lily Reid building to the corner of
the site. Yaw showed where the employee housing will be located on
the back of the site. There are 2 three-bedroom units of 965 square
feet; each has private access, views to the south, storage and
washer-dryers. Each unit has addition 100 square feet of storage
in the basement.
Councilwoman Pendleton agreed the intent in designating the entire
parcel historic was to grant the requested exemptions. Council-
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woman Pendleton said she supports this project. Councilwoman
Pendleton said the two Code sections seem to contradict each other.
Ms. Margerum agreed there are 2 contradictory sections in the Code
and staff is asking Council for clarification in what they meant
when they granted the landmark designation, if they also meant to
grant exemption from mitigation and have them mitigate as if they
are a landmark designation. Councilman Gassman said Council would
not have designated this parcel if their intent was not to create
an exemption.
Councilman Peters said the people who will lose from this applica-
tion are the people who need employee housing. Councilwoman
Pendleton said this project has talked about trade offs, trying to
keep businesses here as well as employees. Councilwoman Pendleton
said the Council also has to give some. Mayor Stirling said his
intention in designating the entire corners was that in the quid
pro quos, the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
Councilwoman Pendleton moved to adopt Ordinance #15, Series of
1991, on first reading; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Yaw told Council they are requested to mitigate for 6.9 employees
and are providing housing for 6 employees and cash in-lieu for the
additional. The units and cash will be consistent with category 2.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Gassman, yes; Tuite, yes; Peters,
no; Pendleton, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #16, SERIES OF 1991 - Code Amendment, Lost and Confiscat-
ed Property
Mayor Stirling moved to read Ordinance #16, Series of 1991;
seconded by Councilman Tuite. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #16
(Series of 1991)
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 13-87(C) "LOST AND CONFIS-
CATED PROPERTY; PROCEDURES FOR DISPOSAL" OF THE MUNICIPAL
CODE OF THE CITY OF ASPEN, COLORADO, FOR THE PURPOSES OF
ALLOWING THE CITY MANAGER TO CLAIM AND CONVERT LOST AND
CONFISCATED PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC USE PRIOR TO BEING
OFFERED FOR SALE AT PUBLIC ACTION was read by the city clerk
Councilman Gassman moved to adopt Ordinance #16, Series of 1991, on
first reading; seconded by Councilman Peters.
Tom Baker, assistant city manager, told Council to help create a
more pedestrian oriented community, this amendment will allow the
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city manager to claim lost or confiscated bicycles before they are
auctioned and have them for city use.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Pendleton, yes; Tuite, yes; Gassman,
yes; Peters, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to table Ordinance #17, Series of 1991, to May
28th; seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion
carried.
RESOLUTION #19, SERIES OF 1991 - Mall Leases
Councilman Gassman moved to approve Resolution #19, Series of 1991;
seconded by Councilman Peters. All in favor, motion carried.
Council left Chambers at 8:55 p.m.
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Kathryn Sr:` Koch, City Cler
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Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 5:00 with Councilmem-
bers Tuite, Pendleton, Peters and Gassman present.
Mayor Stirling explained that people who are going to give evidence
will be sworn in. People making a generic statement on how they
stand on an issue do not need to be sworn in; people bringing
information that is pivotal or that may make Council change their
mind should be sworn in.
ORDINANCE #13, SERIES OF 1991 - Land Use Code Amendments
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing on Ordinance #13, Series
of 1991. Mayor Stirling said section (1) Academic amendment
proposes that any uses approved within a final development plan for
a SPA are permitted uses in the academic zone. Council questioned
whether this was redundant or necessary in this ordinance. Amy
Margerum, planning director, told Council staff has discussed an
alternative of making specific findings in Ordinance #14 to confirm
because there is an SPA overlay, which allows uses to be varied,
those uses would not be considered a non-conforming use.
Gideon Kaufman, representing the applicant, said the suggestion is
a good one as long as there is a finding in the record stating the
intent of the amendment is the same as if the academic zone is
being amended. Ms. Margerum said this would be included in the
ordinance in the whereas clauses and could also be a condition in
the ordinance.
Councilman Peters agreed section 1 is redundant. The issue in
section 1 suggests that the uses would be conforming notwithstand-
ing the validity of the SPA; the uses would still be allowed.
Councilman Peters questioned accommodating a lender for this
amendment. Councilman Peters said he wants the uses to conform to
the entire organic package, the reason to preserve the non-profit
uses. Ms. Margerum said if it is the intent of Council to add this
finding in Ordinance # 14 , staf f will come back with language at the
next meeting. Kaufman pointed out all underlying zoning for the
Hadid organizations permits the uses they need. It is only the
academic zone, only the Institute and M.A.A. that have this
problem.
Councilman Peters said the zoning being considered for the Savanah
portion of land the community would consider a sacrifice for the
sake of redeeming the non-profits land. Councilman Peters said it
is incumbent on Council to make sure that sacrifice is preserved.
This land will never be part of the academic campus again. Council
agreed to delete section 1 and to look at the language moved to
Ordinance #14 at the next meeting.
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Section 2 addresses two new zones, open space and wildlife
preservation. Ms. Margerum reminded Council they had asked that
the conditional uses be included in the open space zone that were
included in the wildlife preservation zone. These include fencing
and downcast illumination lighting for walkways and trails.
The drainage issue has been separated. Surface and underground
drainage has not been added as a conditional use in the OS zone.
Ms. Margerum said staff feels adding language to ordinance #14
would allow Council to address the issue of surface and underground
drainage. The applicant is giving easements for this; however, the
concern is that there be a public hearing at the city before
putting in any drainage system in. Ms. Margerum noted staff was
trying to get at the public hearing by having this as a conditional
use. This can be taken out of the conditional use section and a
condition added to the ordinance stating that the construction of
any storm water drainage structure or facility shall be preceded by
public notice and an opportunity for public comment at Council.
Council agreed to the permitted uses change of downcast illumina-
tion lighting for walkways and trails and fencing.
Kaufman told Council the applicant started off with a specified
portion of the race track designated as the place where the storm
drainage would take place, which the applicants preferred to be
underground. Then the whole rack track was designated as a
retention pond. Kaufman said the language currently states that
anywhere in an SPA it is appropriate. Kaufman said this is
inappropriate as one element in this entire process was the
retention of the character of the Meadows. Kaufman said a storm
detention area of the recommended magnitude in the race track or
anywhere on the campus is not appropriate.
A. J. Zabbia was given the oath. Zabbia said there has been some
misinformation on the urban water runoff plan and water quality act
of 1987. Zabbia submitted a memorandum to the planning staff to
clarify these misconceptions. The storm water act regulations
require municipalities of over 100,000 to apply for storm water
discharge permits. Small municipalities under 100,000 were exempt
from this application until October 1991. Whether small municipal-
ities will be required to proceed as large municipalities is
unclear at this time. Procedure for small municipalities was not
set by the act. Zabbia told Council the EPA will issue additional
regulations to clarify this act. Zabbia said another misconception
about the clean water act is that the act is a permitting and
monitoring act only. It does not contain quantitative discharge
standards for storm water runoff . The point of the act seems to be
assessment of storm water and when identified during monitoring
will be addressed on an individual basis.
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Zabbia noted that the Urban Runoff Management plan by Wright
McLaughlin was done in 1973. The plan was a series of proposals
that maintained a wait and see attitude. Zabbia told Council if
they approve the easements, the surface water facilities will
completely change the character of the race track. Wildlife would
be displaced and the habitat permanently changed by surface
retention. Zabbia stated the placement of a retention pond in the
race track is completely out of character with the aesthetics and
overall scheme of the Meadows.
Chuck Roth, city engineer, in a memorandum dated May 15, responded
to a lot of Zabbia's points. Roth told Council he contacted the
state division of water quality to clarify whether the city needs
to obtain a permit. The state assured Roth the city of Aspen will
be required to have a permit by October 1992. The city will be
required to treat urban runoff to the maximum extent practicable.
The city in the Municipal Code has adopted the 1973 plan. Roth
said a variation will have to be given if an easement is not
required. Roth told Council the water can be pumped somewhere
else. Mayor Stirling asked if staff is satisfied with the
applicant's proposal to deal with their own drainage. Roth said
the applicants are asking the city bury theirs yet are not
proposing to bury their own. Roth said from an engineering
standpoint, he is satisfied with their storm runoff design. They
have identified a 1 acre foot pond.
Councilman Gassman said he feels the request is absurd. This is
discussing whether the city wants to use the Meadows to solve
"drainage problems" for the entire city. Councilman Gassman said
the city has an obligation to treat storm drainage to the maximum
extent practicable. Councilman Gassman suggested it is not
practicable to use the Meadows to treat storm drainage. Councilman
Gassman said this is not the intent of the plan. Councilman
Gassman said drainage in this part of town has not changed in 100
years. What problem is the city trying to solve at the expense of
the Meadows. Councilwoman Pendleton agreed she has had a hard time
with the drainage issue. Roth said there has been some basement
flooding in the west end in past years. Councilwoman Pendleton
said she does not like the idea of a drainage pond in the race
track.
Jed Caswall, city attorney, said the city should not foreclose
their options not knowing what the EPA will do. The water
standards will continue to get more and more stringent. The point
staff has tried to make is that the city is not filtering the water
going into the rivers. The burden will be upon the city in the
future to mitigate what is going into the rivers. Since 1973 this
area of the city has been targeted to provide detention facilities.
Councilman Tuite asked if this pond has been sized out. Roth
answered it has been sized out at 5 acre feet, 5 acres by 1 foot
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deep or 1 acre by 5 feet deep. Councilman Tuite said he cannot
envision using the Meadows for a runoff pond, especially what the
city and neighborhood have been through the last couple of years.
Councilwoman Pendleton asked if it is possible to locate this in
the parking lot. Mayor Stirling said there would be too much
disturbance in putting this 5 acre feet underground.
Mayor Stirling moved that Council not consider this anywhere on the
Meadows property; seconded by Councilman Gassman.
Councilman Peters asked about creating an easement where the
consortium proposed detention pond will be. Zabbia said the
problem with this pond is that the runoff will have to be piped
from Gillespie street through the race track to this pond.
Herb Klein asked if there could be a half acre site that is 10 feet
deep. Klein said this pond should not be in the race track. Klein
said if there is an opportunity for the city to have a facility, it
should be taken. This might be located in a depressed parking lot
or under the parking lot.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Peters. Motion
carried.
Ms. Margerum told Council the wildlife preservation zone would
remain as is . The recommendation from P & Z specifically stated
paved walkways, fencing and lighting to be conditional uses in that
zone district because this district is meant to be much more
natural. Ms. Margerum requested Council delete (c)(3) under
conditional uses.
Ms. Margerum reminded Council at the last meeting they asked for
alternative which would broaden the discretion of Council of
allowing exemptions for both mitigation and competition for non-
profits. Ms. Margerum told Council staff intentionally left the
language limiting so it would not apply to all non-profits in the
city. The alternative for Council is to remove the academic zone
district from the language. Mayor Stirling said the language is
"development associated with non-profit entity qualifies as an
essential public facility and may exempt such development from the
GMQS and from some or all mitigation requirements ."
Charles Collins said in section 4 there is a suggested change
adding design standards in Section 7-1004(c) streets and related
improvements. Collins said the variations listed in the SPA are
now bringing in design standards from the subdivision chapter.
Collins said it is an exclusionary rule to take design standards
and move them into this amendment . Article 7 has 6 or 8 divisions .
Collins said he does not feel it is appropriate to move review
standards from one division to another. Collins quoted from the
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code that text amendments are not intended to relieve particular
hardships or special privileges to any person or entity. Collins
said variations are more appropriately addressed through a variance
from the Board of Adjustment.
Ms. Margerum said staff feels this is a very appropriate code
amendment which will allow staff, Council and the community to be
more creative in designing certain large parcels of land similar to
that which can be done by varying setbacks and minimum lot sizes.
This allows one to design more of a rural setting and not have to
have streets as wide with curb and gutter and lighting that are
requirements found in the subdivision regulations.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct the planning staff to bring Council
a new draft of Ordinance #13 on May 28th including language that
would be findings regarding Section 1 to be deleted, make changes
in Section 2 and 3 and language changes in Section 5 for final
action on May 28th; seconded by Councilman Peters. All in favor,
motion carried.
ORDINANCE #14, SERIES OF 1991 - Aspen Meadows Final SPA
John Doremus said finding #6 which states the plan is consistent
with the Aspen Meadows master plan is incorrect regarding the new
entrance road, Seventh Street access into the Meadows. Currently
there is a sharp left hand turn at the intersection with North
street. In order to be safe 3 stop signs are required. Doremus
contended the problem is that all trucks, cars and buses will have
to stop and start. This unnecessary stop could be mitigated by a
more gently curving turn, which the traffic planners looked at.
Doremus said eliminating stop signs would be more consistent with
the master plan.
Gideon Kaufman said the master plan is general, not site specific.
During all the hearings, the road was looked at changed and
redesigned. Kaufman said if the road is made a more gentle slope
there is more cut and fill and aesthetic considerations. Kaufman
said this is the best design when all features are weighed
together. Jim Markalunas said there should be restricted speed
limits and even speed bumps in this area.
Councilman Peters said in the findings it states the developer's
final plan submission is complete to afford review and evaluation
for approval. Councilman Peters said absence a survey of the
riparian area, the plan is deficient. In finding #2, it states the
plan is compatible and enhances the mix of development in the
immediate vicinity of the Aspen Meadows. Councilman Peters said
the new access road, the parking structure and the 4 lot subdivi-
sion are incompatible and do not enhance the mix of uses.
Councilman Peters said in finding #4, the Aspen Meadows is general
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suitable for the requested development in terms of topography and
the plan creatively employs land techniques to preserve view planes
and avoid adverse impacts, the road creates an avoidable environ-
mental impact for no discernable reason.
Councilman Peters said in finding #7, the plan demonstrates good
and sufficient cause to remove the SPA designation for that portion
of the Aspen Meadows property to be conveyed to the city to adjust
the current SPA boundary; the only argument for that action is to
remove the city as a party in standing to the SPA. Councilman
Peters said it would be in the city's best interest to be a party
to the overall SPA application. Ms. Margerum told Council most of
the conservation land is currently not in the SPA overlay. Ms.
Margerum told Council staff posits if the final survey is submitted
prior to signing if final plat, this meets all the requirements of
the code.
Councilman Peters asked who will review the survey for the area
that the city is buying. Ms. Margerum said the engineering
department reviews surveys based on benchmark and acreage. There
could be a walk through with Council. Caswall said the city as
purchaser has the right to go to the property and make sure they
are getting what they thought. Bob Hughes, representing the
applicant, noted the contract is subject to the city receiving the
survey. The corners will be staked before June 10th.
Ms. Margerum pointed out there is a condition added stating only
the owners of Lots 1, 2 , and 3 , which are the non-profit lots, have
to agree on a SPA application so that one non-profit could not
apply for future development unless they had the agreement of the
other non-profits. Perry Harvey, representing the applicant,
pointed out when the SPA was drawn, the only part of the conserva-
tion zone included was a sliver going down the hill by the boundary
to an adjacent property owner.
Councilman Gassman moved to accept Section 1, the general findings;
seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton.
Larry Lederer encouraged Council to make a decision on this and
bring this process to a close. There has been a lot of effort put
into this and it is time Council moved ahead. Bob Taylor said he
support the 7 criteria; they meet the plan. Taylor urged Council
to approve this. Charles Collins said he is concerned about #1
that the submission is complete and sufficient; in some areas it
still needs a great deed of detail to be properly evaluated.
Collins said in #4, the last sentence, preserve view planes and
avoid adverse environmental impacts; generally the plan does a good
job; however, the environmental impacts in the race track could
have been addressed better.
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All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Peters. Motion
carried.
Kim Johnson, planning office, told Council the applicant has
requested several language changes; the deletion of "city approval
and", page 5 section 2. This phrase is mentioned in several
conditions. Ms. Johnson pointed out the city's sign off on the
final plat is approval of it. The applicant wanted to make sure
the city was not confusing the approval date of the ordinance with
the date of the signature on the final plat. Councilman Gassman
suggested "city approval of the final plat". Caswall said it was
phrased this way because the city would also have to approve the
time line not just the plat. Kaufman said this could be construed
to mean Council approval; that the final plat would have to be
submitted before Council approves this ordinance. Caswall said he
means city staff rather than Council.
Ms. Johnson said the proposed parking structure is to be built in
the third phase, the applicant will commit to keeping on site 96
spaces at least. Fred Smith, representing the applicant, said the
specific time frame will be contingent on the Aspen Institute's
ability to raise money.
Councilman Peters said he would like to remove construction of the
parking structure as a condition of approval. Ms. Margerum said
ince the applicants have committed to keeping the parking on the
property adjacent to the Chalet buildings prior to building the
parking structure, that is what staff was looking for. Ms.
Margerum said the condition could be deleted, and this representa-
tion could be added to the record. Staff was concerned the parking
spaces would be lost during the three-year construction. Mayor
Stirling suggested this condition be amended and brought back to
the next meeting.
Si Coleman said permitting this project to have a parking garage is
a short sided view of transportation in the 90's and beyond when
the car will be de-emphasized.
Mayor Stirling moved to refer paragraph #2, Section 2 to the
planning director for rewrite in relations to comments made by Fred
Smith and bring back the 28th; seconded by Councilman Peters. All
in favor, motion carried.
Mayor Stirling said the next paragraphs address traffic and traffic
mitigation plans. Kaufman said the applicants would like some
standards in the sentence that reads, "the city will review the
report and may require modifications to the developments traffic
mitigation program including the addition of new mitigation
measures". Kaufman said there could be an instance where RFTA is
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in trouble and the applicants have to provide a fleet of new buses.
Ms. Margerum suggested, "including new reasonable mitigation".
Herb Klein asked who makes the decision on this, whether its staff
or P & Z . Ms . Margerum said it is P & Z after a hearing. She will
clarify this.
Mayor Stirling moved to accept paragraphs 3 , 4 and 5 with modi f ica-
tions from staff; seconded by Councilman Peters. All in favor,
motion carried.
Mayor Stirling said paragraphs 6, 7, and 8 deal with fire access.
Council had no problems with these paragraphs.
Paragraph 9 deals with tree removal. There is a memo from the
applicant. Fred Smith told Council the memo is to clarify trunks
groups; there are 40 trunks being removed, 14 groupings. Smith
said the applicants intend on replacing caliper inch for caliper
inch. In some instances trees are being removed because they are
old or diseased. These will also be replaced. Klein suggested a
minimum size for replanting be specified. Smith said 1.5 inch
Aspen tree would be a good size. Council agreed to add 1.5 inch.
Paragraph 10 is trails including the race track easement and access
to the riparian zone. Ms. Margerum said the intent of the
condition regarding the race track is that there was not a link
from Seventh street up to the race track. The applicants have
committed to add that easement to the race track. There is not
commitment for an easement around the race track. The applicants
have indicated they would be willing to provide a pedestrian
easement around the race track, not a trail. Mayor Stirling said
he would like to see these specified in the condition.
Kaufman said the applicant is willing to commit to an easement as
long as the city agrees to hold the applicant harmless, indemnifies
them, and that there is not access when it is dark. Caswall said
it is unconstitutional for a municipality to agree to indemnify a
private party. Caswall noted there is a state statute that private
parties who dedicate their property for public trails are entitled
to the same type of immunity the city has. Kaufman said the
Institute has been sued in the past by people injured on their
property. Kaufman said they are willing to have the public use
their property but not to take on the exposure of someone injuring
themselves and suing the Institute. Klein said if the applicant
would give fee title for the easement to the city they would not
have that exposure. Mayor Stirling said it is critical the public
have access to this property.
Ron Austin told Council in the county on an exposure issue, it was
provided that the government would represent and defend the
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landowner against any claims. Council requested this be addressed
for their next meeting.
Ms. Johnson told Council the master plan and final plan indicate a
trail going between the new tennis townhomes and the restaurant
across the steep slope heading towards picnic point. Ms. Johnson
told Council staff did a site visit and discovered how rugged this
slope is. Building a multi-use trail would be very expensive and
very damaging to the slope. Ms. Johnson said there is an old road
bed further towards picnic point which accesses at the end of the
trustee houses. This road with improvements would suit the multi-
trail purpose needs to access the city-owned riparian land. Ms.
Johnson pointed out the applicant is planning on 2 new townhouses
in this area. Ms. Johnson said the applicability of this trail
warrants further exploration accessing the pedestrian roadway from
the health club to the parking lot.
Kaufman told Council this issue received a lot of discussion in the
master plan. The reason this location was selected is that it took
the pedestrians and bicyclist down into the riparian area before
they went to the campus. Staff's trail takes the trail right
through the heart of the campus. The sculpture garden is used
extensively by the Institute. This will be located right next to
a major pedestrian area. People backing out of the trustee houses
would be backing into the trail. Ms. Johnson told Council staff
was proposing to explore using the access road, not the parking lot
area of the townhomes.
Harvey noted when the new trustee houses are built, there will be
a retaining wall. At the end of the trustee houses, it is an
extremely sharp drop off. Harvey said there is less room at that
end of the health club for a trail head. Charles Collins asked if
there is a provision of a trail on the east end of the conservation
area. Mayor Stirling said there will be a new trail to that area.
Collins asked if there will be a trail head on the west side to
park vehicles or for people to take off from. Mayor Stirling said
there is no provision for a trail head. In the spirit of auto
disincentive and public transportation, he does not want to invite
cars into that site. Collins asked about staking out the conserva-
tion zone. Mayor Stirling said this will be done the first week of
June.
Councilman Peters suggested the trail alignment be left to the
planning office. Councilman Gassman requested the planning office
relook at both alternatives. Councilman Gassman said the old road
may have been the original road into Aspen from McClain flats and
the most successful trails follow common sense alignments.
Mayor Stirling moved to refer number 10 on the 2 specific aspects
of access to the riparian zone and secondly the race track easement
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and issues of liability and time of day use to Amy Margerum and Jed
to work with the applicant and bring back to Council some proposed
language which we hope will be acceptable to all parties a week
from tomorrow night; seconded by Councilman Peters. All in favor,
motion carried.
Paragraphs 11, 12, and 13 are issues of water; water rights and
conveyances, and water systems. Larry Ballenger, water department
director, told Council the applicants will be expanding their
existing water mains and services within the development. They are
not creating their own water system. Mayor Stirling said paragraph
13 should be reworded so that it does not indicate this should be
a new system but to pay for upgrades to meet the minimum standards .
Ms. Johnson told Council the applicants are proposing new water
improvements within their development. The next issue is whether
the applicants deed over these improvements to the city or retain
them.
Zabbia said when a developer installs infrastructure, they design
and install the water system. Zabbia said these will be up to city
standards and will be deeded over to the city. Mayor Stirling
requested the language be straightened out for the next meeting.
Paragraph #12 is the issue of water rights. Kevin Patrick, water
counsel for the applicant, told Council the applicant is owner of
water rights in the Si Johnson ditch shared equally with the city's
water rights in that ditch . The city may request that water due to
new demand being placed on the system. Patrick pointed out in
relation to the demand, the city is requesting a far greater
quantity of water than the city would be entitled to under the
code. Patrick said he has not gone through the quantification of
what portion of the applicant' s water rights should be dedicated to
the city and leased back. Patrick said an agreement with the
applicant for them to do the irrigating may be an alternative. The
purpose of a raw water lease back is to encourage the developer to
irrigate with something other than treated water. Councilman
Peters said the purpose of the city obtaining water rights is to
enhance the city's water supply.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct legal staff to reword #13 to
properly clarify what we are talking about in terms of the role of
the applicant as regards our municipal system and (2) to give us
feedback in relation to the proposed language in #12; seconded by
Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion carried.
Zabbia said paragraph #14 states "those developments shall not
permit runoff to enter irrigation ditches or ponds". Zabbia said
the irrigation ditches at the Meadows do function as drainage
ditches during rain storms. Councilwoman Pendleton asked if this
will have anything to do with the clean water act of 1992. Caswall
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said it potentially could but he cannot be specific. Mayor
Stirling said this language needs to be clarified and asked staff
reword condition #14 for the next meeting.
Mayor Stirling said condition #15 is residential units will comply
with fireplace regulations. Condition #16 is a drainage mitigation
plan for storm runoff during construction activities shall be
submitted. The city expects to get this. Zabbia requested this
say "runoff" rather than "storm runoff". Zabbia said his concern
is about hitting ground water. Mayor Stirling said "any runoff"
would be acceptable. Kaufman said he would like this clear this is
for each component. Ms. Margerum said this change should be made
throughout the conditions.
Mayor Stirling condition #17 is the fugitive dust control, which is
essential. Condition #18 states this plan has to be approved by
the environmental health department. Council request paragraph
#19 addressing the parking lot under the tennis courts be deleted
as the required letter has been submitted to the city.
Harvey said regarding condition #15, the trustee townhouses are not
multi-family structures. They do not share common walls. Harvey
said he is having an on-going discussions with staff on how to
treat the fireplaces in the townhouses. There are currently 8
dirty burning fireplaces. Harvey is trying to determine if he can
replace these with gas logs in each unit. Ms. Margerum said
according to the environmental health department, the intent was
for a multi-family type building. There is a question on this
interpretation and the appeal should be made to the Clean Air
Board.
Condition #20 talks about the energy conservation. Fred Smith said
the last sentence suggests energy efficiency measures be incorpo-
rated to the maximum extent possible. Smith questioned who would
make this determination. Smith suggested the applicants be
required to do the same energy efficiency ideas outlined in the
appropriate technology letter rather than leaving it open ended.
Ms. Margerum said the existing language allows for that and
suggested the chief building official be added as the person to
make the determination. Mayor Stirling asked staff to rewrite the
condition to include the May 3rd letter addressed to Fred Smith
giving technology and definition.
Mayor Stirling moved to have staff look at the letter and possibly
rewrite condition #20 to reflect that or make a recommendation back
to Council; seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion
carried.
Robert Harth, M.A.A., told Council this may not address energy
concerns with the rehearsal performance hall. The hall cannot
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utilize some technologies which would cause humming or other noise.
This has been addressed in a letter.
Mayor Stirling said the next issue is that the developer shall pay
the city an affordable housing mitigation fee for 16.69 low income
employees prior to the issuance of a building permit. Harvey
presented some language which would clarify the housing impact fee
is tied to the 10 townhouse units. The single family residences
are separate. They have accessory dwelling units. The proposed
language is "The developer of the 10 new residential units to be
located 7 on lot 6 and 3 on lot 5, shall pay to the city an
affordable housing impact fee for 16.69 low incomes for each new
residential unit in an amount to be calculated pursuant to those
fee guidelines in effect at the time. Fee shall be paid prior to
the issuance of a building permit". Council asked for a recommen-
dation from staff on this proposed language at the May 28th
meeting.
Condition #22 is the issue of replacement or additional fox dens.
Kaufman asked the condition be specific on who will work with ACES
on this condition. Councilman Peters said the city can chose
anyone they want to do this rather than specify it in the condi-
tion.
Council has no problem with condition #24, revegetation. Kaufman
told Council they have some problems with condition #24. It is
important to keep flexibility to allow someone in the future to be
able to do an adjunct to add park-like facilities or manicured
areas. Mayor Stirling said the notion is to keep the place with a
wild feeling. Ms. Johnson said expanding Anderson park or coming
up with a new park area would be an amendment to the SPA and could
be reviewed in that way. Kaufman said to do something aesthetical-
ly in open space areas, it seems inappropriate to have to go
through the SPA amendment process. Mayor Stirling requested the
applicant supply language to staff for Council to look at May 28th.
Condition #25, the applicant requested a language change to the
same as P & Z final approval which says unless the soil is not
stable enough in which case fencing will be at a point mutually
agreed on by the owner, the building and planning departments. Ms.
Margerum said this will be added back in.
Condition #26 is a financial assurance in amounts and forms
acceptable to the developer and city, shall be provided by
developer to insure the satisfactory installation and completion of
the new Meadows road, etc. Mayor Stirling asked how "forms
acceptable to developer and city" is to be determined.
Councilman Peters moved to delete the financial assurances for the
parking facilities. Motion DIES for lack of a second.
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Councilman Gassman said this is not demanding that the parking
facility be built but if it is, it should be bonded. Ms. Margerum
said this is approving the parking facility and if it is not, staff
would have to see a revised plan because this had implications for
internal circulation, the design of the townhouses and Institute
area.
Kaufman said the applicant is not providing for or paying for any
trails other than the old Meadows road. Mayor Stirling suggested
deleting "public" in #26. Harvey said this project involves many
different parcels and specific utilities. Harvey requested a
sentence stating, "that portion of such assurances as is reasonably
found by the public works director, in connection with the
appropriate utility department, to be related to the work for which
a permit is sought, must be in place prior to the issuance of that
building permit". Harvey told Council the applicants are trying to
develop a format when a permit is asked or that those assurances
associated with that be guaranteed. Mayor Stirling suggested this
be submitted to staff for review and Council will look at this next
week.
Mayor Stirling said #27 is the expansion of the restaurant
administration facility. Council agreed to the condition. Ms.
Margerum told Council she received a request this evening that may
allow this condition to be deleted by the next Council meeting.
Council agreed.
Harvey said condition #28 is fine as far as dealing with an SPA
amendment when one of the non-profits wishes to submit an amend-
ment. It does not address what happens if one of the residential
components wishes to submit an SPA amendment. Harvey requested a
sentence stating, "Any SPA amendment proposed to be submitted by
any residential owner or association thereof, shall require in
additional to the consent of the association of owners of the
component involved, the approval of the resident non-profits of the
SPA". Council agreed with this in concept and requested staff
review this for the next meeting.
Mayor Stirling requested condition #29 be worked on this week
simultaneously with condition #10. David McLaughlin said the
concern is not the change in historic usage. McLaughlin said there
should be some discretionary limits to use of the campus during the
time when classes or events are going on. Councilman Peters said
trust for reasonableness has to flow both ways. Councilman Peters
pointed out one of the reasons for this process is to preserve the
community feel for this property. Councilman Peters said the
community is making sacrifices in order to preserve the Meadows.
Councilman Peters said if the language preserves discretionary
right to the Institute, he will object to it. McLaughlin pointed
out the Institute and M.A.A. will also be making huge investments
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in the property. McLaughlin said there are occasions when they
will be concerned about people getting in the way of these invest-
ments. Councilwoman Pendleton asked how the property would be
closed up. Kaufman said this is private property in which the
owners allow public access. If someone is interrupting seminars
they can be told to get off the property. Kaufman said it is
different when an easement is granted and the public feel they have
a right to be there.
Councilwoman Pendleton asked how the Institute will control people
who feel they can walk anywhere on the property. King Woodward
said the property has been used and also abused by the public, from
training their dogs in the music tent to picnicking in Anderson
park. Councilman Peters pointed out the public investment in this
property is in the $3 million range. Kaufman said the public has
access through the riparian area and through the race track.
Kaufman noted there is a heart to this campus. What is important
is not just the land but what goes on at this campus. The
Institute currently determines when people are abusing the
property. Kaufman said they do not want someone else making that
decision. Councilman Peters said that authority is going to have
to be shared because there are other interests being served.
Mayor Stirling said the non-profit groups have to have a certain
amount of discretion. Mayor Stirling said he is happy with the
language. Robert Harth, M.A.A. said the language refers to health
and safety and protecting the property. There are other issues
about the activities the institutions present that need to be
protected. Kaufman said protecting the serenity of the users is
not addressed.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct staff to work with a representative
of the applicant to work on modification to this language and bring
it back on the 28th; seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in favor,
motion carried.
Condition #30 is the location of the rehearsal facility for the
M.A.A; the lodging units for the Institute; the tennis townhouses;
the addition of trustee houses; and the parking structure.
Mayor Stirling submitted to the public record 26 letters Council
has received urging Council not approve the east site for the
rehearsal facility. It is part of this plan to have the rehearsal
facility on the east side of the music tent. Council accepts this
location.
Bob Starodoj said he earlier asked if this was a year round
facility and was told no. He also asked if this was a rehearsal
facility or a performing facility and was told it was a rehearsal
facility. Starodoj said this is not what is in the plan. Starodoj
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said the character of the area around the Meadows is neighborhood.
If this is expanded to a year round facility, this is changing the
character. Starodoj said this was represented as a rehearsal
facility and this is what it should be.
Robert Harth, M.A.A., referred to a letter dated October 31, 1989,
which was the beginning of the master planning process. This
letter specified requests for the Meadows; included was an 11,000
square foot building with a seating capacity of 500 seats to
provide additional rehearsal space and enable the M.A.A. to
relocate some concerts to this facility and allowing for rehearsal
time in the tent. The letter also states the M.A.A. would not
allow simultaneous concerts in the two facilities. Harth said the
M.A.A. has filed a schedule with this city for this facility
showing most of the events are rehearsals. The M.A.A. has not
changed their position from the beginning.
Starodoj questioned what year round means. Harth noted a letter
dated January 29, 1991, which is part of the SPA final application.
Paragraph 2 of that letter refers to off season usage. "It is
difficult to contemplate all possible uses for this facility as
well as to anticipate all requests from the community but our
discussions and plans center around the following; (1) Interna-
tional Design Conference will use this facility for their annual
conference in June; (2) the facility will be available for use by
the Center for Physics and the Aspen Institute for lectures and
other events; (3) the facility will be used for selected festival
and school events sponsored by the music festival; (4) requests by
other non-profit organizations to use the facility will be
evaluated on the basis of impact and scope; ( 5 ) the facility may be
used for recording sessions. These session will be closed to
members of the public; (6) the facility may be used for closed
music teaching seminars, particularly as an extension of the music
festival's music in the schools programs; and lastly, there will be
no for-profit public use of the facility". Harth said there will
not be regular usage in the winter; however, the M.A.A. does not
want to be precluded from opportunities which would be beneficial
to the entire community.
George Vicenzi said the open ended part of this list is use by
other non-profit organizations. There are many non-profit
organizations who do a lot of fund raising in the valley. Vicenzi
said Council had discussed limiting the number of times this could
be used in the winter rather than leaving it open-ended.
Harth said the M.A.A. does not want to open up this facility to the
type of wear and tear that concerts would do. This will be a state
of the art facility that is being built primarily for the music
students. Harth said they want to be able to have recordings made
in this facility. Harth reiterated the primary purpose of this
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facility is for summer use, for professional development. There
will be some concerts. Vicenzi said the residents can live with a
few concerts; however, the way this is stated, there is no
limitation. Jan Collins requested the neighbors be able to work
with staff and come up with acceptable language. Ms. Collins said
there is nothing in the language stating this will not be used by
the Institute and Physics Center during the winter.
Harth said it is unreasonable to ask an organization to be limited
in its usage of a facility of this nature. Harth said this 500
seat facility is located between parking lots holding 240 cars and
90 cars. Harth said they are not anticipating the type of activity
there is during the summer where there are concerts and rehearsals
on a daily basis including 100 students and faculty to perform.
Harth said it is not their intention to compete with the Wheeler
during the winter.
Si Coleman said Council should put a lot of weight on benefits to
the community as a whole and not just concern itself with immediate
neighborhood impacts. Coleman said the entire community will
benefit greatly from having this type of facility available for
non-profit use. Harry Teague reminded Council the hall will be
completely sound proofed. Vicenzi asked if the parking lot will be
plowed in the winter. Harth said when it needs to be utilized it
will be plowed. It will not be plowed daily because it will not be
used daily.
Ron Austin was given the oath. Austin told Council he represents
a group called "Friends of the Lawn" made up of neighbors and
people throughout the community. Austin told Council he was told
by the HPC that they had to consider the rehearsal facility on the
east side and their only concerns were height; they could not
direct themselves to a recommendation to Council that they
preferred the west location. Austin said P & Z also stated it was
not their decision to make and that they could not discuss east or
west; it was a decision already made by Council. Austin said there
has been no determination made by Council why the facility has to
be placed on the east. Austin said the only reasons he has heard
is service access, which would just as easily be accommodated to
the west location. The other reason is concept of open space.
Austin said the east site is just as much open space as the west
site. Austin said throughout the entire process there have been no
reasons given for locating the rehearsal facility on the east of
the music tent. Austin said the M.A.A and the Institute were
neutral and the Physics Center has not objected to the west site.
Austin said there has been no sufficient evidence presented to
Council to allow them to make a determination at this point as to
an east or west location. Austin said the goal is to determine
what is in the public's best interest, then site this facility.
Austin requested Council consider the possibility of a western site
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location and give this due consideration in their deliberations.
Austin told Council the west location has a much less impact.
Mayor Stirling moved to suspend the rules and continue the meeting
to 9:45 p.m.; seconded by Councilwoman Pendleton. All in favor,
with the exception of Councilman Gassman. Motion carried.
Herb Klein was given the oath. Klein, representing Evelyn and
Leonard Lauder, told Council his clients have been very active in
the location of the rehearsal facility. Klein agreed with what
Austin said; it was mysterious how the easterly site got selected
without any kind of detailed analysis. Klein said it is a
falsehood that the HPC and P & Z investigated and analyzed both
sites and then selected the east site. Klein said Council
expressed it's preference and the HPC and P & Z felt it was not
their decision to make. The HPC did pass a resolution asking
Council to consider a west site. Klein said his clients do feel a
time pressure and do not want to stop the process . Klein suggested
Council also consider the west site so there is some flexibility
preserved in the plan so if the M.A.A. wants to come back, they do
not have a rezoning problem. Austin supported this approach.
Kaufman told Council the location was selected by P & Z and Council
at conceptual hearings at which public comment was taken. There
was a lot of public comment both at HPC and P & Z. P & Z voted on
a location of a rehearsal hall, 4 in favor of the eastern location
and 3 in favor of the western location. Harry Teague told Council
both sites were flagged at the request of the HPC. Teague told
Council both sites were considered. During the hearings at HPC and
P & Z, the benefits of the eastern site emerged. Teague said the
applicants felt they were given a clear direction, settled on the
east site and designed the building around that site.
Councilwoman Pendleton said she has walked the property, has
listened to the views of HPC and P & Z, has listened to public
comments. Councilwoman Pendleton said she went to the property
when it was staked and could see Independence Pass from the east
site. The building has been dropped down and moved north.
Councilwoman Pendleton said the berming around the tent is supposed
to help the acoustics inside the tent. Councilwoman Pendleton said
the location of the rehearsal facility on the east does not
diminish the views. Councilwoman Pendleton said she has not seen
any evidence to have this facility on the western location.
Councilman Peters said one of the things Council attempted to do
with the master plan was to make uses occur simultaneously and
harmoniously on the property. Councilman Peters said there are
good arguments for the eastern location; not included is the crush
of time. Councilman Tuite said he has been to the site several
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times. Councilman Tuite said he favors the eastern site since the
building has been moved north.
Councilman Gassman said agreed with the above Council comments.
Councilman Gassman said the eastern side is a better location. If
one stands on the east side of the tent what you are looking at is
almost completely developed; Red Mountain, Pitkin Green, the city.
The view is developed Aspen. If you stand on the west side of the
tent, you can see the roof of one house; the rest is all the
mountains. Councilman Gassman objected to the notion there are no
planning or land use reasons to put the rehearsal facility on the
east side. Councilman Gassman said there are real, common sense
reasons to locate the facility on the east side. Councilman
Gassman said with all the interest in this, if there were good
reasons to put this on the west, they would have surfaced.
Mayor Stirling said P & Z designated the east site at conceptual;
the Council affirmed this. Mayor Stirling said Council felt it was
important to designate a site in order to do the planning for this
site. The east site has always extensively been used; the IDCA
uses it, it is an entrance, it is used for special events. The
structure will be sheltered from the parking areas; it cannot be
seen from the intersection of Gillespie and Third in the summer.
Mayor Stirling pointed out the west site flows naturally into the
track, which is where the natural wildlife habitat it. Staring to
infringe on that habitat would be imprudent. The west side also
infringes upon the circle of serenity of the Physics Center as well
as the Meadows property.
Mayor Stirling moved the Council affirm there be a rehearsal/per-
formance facility that will have some year round use and secondly
that it be located on the east side as described in the applica-
tion; seconded by Councilman Gassman. All in favor, motion
carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to continue the meeting to May 28th; seconded
by Councilwoman Pendleton. All in favor, motion carried. Council
left Chambers at 9:45 p.m.
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Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with
Councilmembers Tuite, Gassman Peters and Pendleton present.
ASPEN MOUNTAIN LODGE RE UEST PUD SECTION M AMENDMENT
Mayor Stirling said at the first hearing April 17 testimony was
presented and the applicants requested an extension of the date by
which to obtain a certificate of occupancy for the Ritz. Council
directed staff to work with an applicant on issues raised at that
meeting. There was a site visit by Council with the applicant.
Mayor Stirling said Council has to make a finding on whether the
applicant has demonstrated by the preponderance of evidence that
the reasons for delay of the construction on this project are
beyond their control The applicants cited two reasons; (1)
conflict in the Persian Gulf and (2) the recession, especially in
the hotel industry.
Council has to decide if the applicant has demonstrated and
satisfied its burden of proof. Council then has to decide on what
basis to proceed and what conditions may be appropriate for this
extension. At the last meeting, some issues Council raised were
what would it cost to finish the project, can the applicants finish
the project, the level of activity of the site, what financial
assurances there might be, when does it become economical for the
applicant to walk away, evidence of Ritz' continued interest in the
project, the status of the Bavarian Inn, and who is the Council
dealing with. Mayor Stirling said there is litigation between the
partners and this has caused some delay to the project. Council
has to weigh to what extent this has been a contributing factor and
whether or not this is within the applicant's control.
Jed Caswall, city attorney, submitted 8 new items for the record.
These are (1) Savanah's written specification of the extensions in
a letter May 2, 1991; (2) Savanah's written response to the April
10 , 19 91, 1 etter issued by the City Attorney dated May 1, 19 91; ( 3 )
a letter from Steve Goldenberg dated April 30, 1991; (4) a letter
from Jim Curtis dated April 2 3 , 1991; ( 5 ) Savanah' s written request
for a continuance of the previous hearing set for May 16, 1991; (6)
Savanah's letter amending its May 1, 1991 letter dated May 9, 1991;
and ( 7 ) Notice posted in Council advising that the May 16th hearing
had been continued to May 21, 1991; (8) letter dated May 20, 1991,
from Krabacher, Hill and Edwards.
Amy Margerum, planning director, said staff has been working with
the applicant to identify alternatives and options regarding this
requested extension. Ms. Margerum recommended Council grant a
phased extension to the PUD with conditions which will allow the
city to monitor the progress of the applicant in meeting those
conditions in a timely manner. Diane Moore, planning office, told
~, Council alternative #1 would be to grant the extension request with
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no conditions. One implication of this alternative is that the
conditions Savanah has already agreed to would not be required.
These conditions relate to visual impacts of continued construction
activity and delay of site improvements. Ms. Moore told Council
staff has identified other conditions relating to the ice rink,
Mill street, building permits and bonding that would be required.
Ms. Moore pointed out the community has expressed its desire for
the completion of the Ritz Carlton hotel; however, the long
construction of the hotel has had adverse impacts on the city, and
the city should require Savanah to remediate the problems that have
gone unresolved.
The second alternative would be to deny the requested extension.
Denial would increase the chances that the hotel and associated
development would not be completed. The impact to the community
would be negative; the partially completed structure would remain
for some time. The third alternative would be to grant the
extension for certain items with conditions. Under this alterna-
tive, the c/o for the Ritz, Ice Rink and park, the building permit
for Ute City Place, and the c/o for Summit place would all be
extended. The extension for the demolition permit of the Grand
Aspen hotel would be denied. Staff is not recommending an
extension to the demolition permit of the Grand Aspen hotel as
Savanah has not supplied information to support this request. Ms.
Moore pointed out that 18 reconstruction credits from previously
demolished buildings are tied to the date of demolition of the
Grand Aspen hotel.
The fourth alternative would be to grant all extensions with
conditions. These would be incorporated in the Section M amend-
ment. These conditions would be those staff is recommending in
alternative 5. Staff is recommending alternative 5, a 6 month
extension with interim conditions. Upon completion of the interim
conditions, an additional 6 month extension would be given to the
construction schedule deadline. Extension for the demolition
permit for the Grand Aspen hotel would be denied. Under this
alternative at the end of 6 months from October 1, 1991, staff
would review the progress on the conditions. If all the conditions
are met, staff would recommend Council grant an additional 6
months.
Ms. Moore told Council staff's recommended conditions associated
with alternative #5 would be
(1) Savanah shall improve the exterior fence adjacent to the
Ritz construction site and the proposed ice rink park site.
All construction material shall be removed from public view.
This will be completed by August 1, 1991.
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(2) Construction entry to the Blue Spruce off Durant street
shall be cleaned up and not utilized for construction activi-
ties . This shall be completed by August 1 to the satisfaction
of the public works director.
(3) The Blue Spruce structure shall be cleared of construction
materials and scaffolding from public view. This shall be
completed by September 1, 1991.
(4 ) A safe pedestrian path shall be placed on the east side of
Mill street between the Ritz construction site and the Grand
Aspen hotel. Temporary patch work shall be placed on Mill
street between the construction site and the Grand Aspen
hotel. This shall be completed by July 1, 1991.
(5) The patch work on Dean street in front of the Grand Aspen
shall be completed by July 1, 1991.
(6) Bank stabilization work on both the south and west side of
the project shall be initiated by August 1, 1991, to the
satisfaction of the public works director.
(7) Savanah shall apply for rezoning to park for the ice
rink/park site by July 1, 1991. If Savanah does not apply,
the city will initiate rezoning with all fees paid by the
applicant.
(8) Savanah shall submit a final development plan for the ice
rink/park to the city by September 23, 1991.
(9) Savanah shall submit all necessary information to the
building department for a #1 building permit by July 1, 1991.
(10) Savanah shall obtain a #1 building permit from the city
by August 1, 1991, and necessary fees and taxes paid at that
time.
(11) Savanah shall properly secure and fence Summit place and
remove the debris from the site. The west wall shall also be
repaired and shall be complete by August 1, 1991.
(12) The construction schedule submitted by Savanah shall be
adhered to.
(13) The posting of adequate financial assurances for
demolition of the hotel site shall be made to the satisfaction
of the city attorney prior to October 1, 1991.
(14 ) All fees owed to the city for processing of any applica-
tions shall be paid by October 1. 1991.
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Deputy City Clerk Jan Carney gave the oath to John Sarpa, Perry
Harvey, Bob Hughes, Mark Hayutin, Aziz Al-Yahah, Mohamed Hadid,
Ferd Belz, Joe Imbriani, and Omar Benjamin.
Bob Hughes, attorney for the partnership, requested Council accept
alternative 4, which is an extension of all components, with
conditions. This is a one year extension from October 1st and
includes the extension on the demolition of the Grand Aspen.
Mohamed Hadid told Council there is still litigation between him
and his partner, however, they are working on resolving this.
Hadid said Savanah is the partner the Council needs to be talking
to. Hadid said he supports the partner's position, which is
alternative #4. Aziz said circumstances beyond the applicant's
control have forced the slow down of construction and they need
additional time to resolve issues related to construction deadlines
and financing. Aziz said over the next 5 months they will be
assessing further the cost consideration and other issues which
have contributed to this slow down and will determine how to
proceed for the best interests of the community and the partner-
ship. The partnership and the city's staff have been working to
come up with resolution that address the community' s concern on the
status of the Ritz and to protect the partnership's interest as
well. Aziz said with the extension request they can continue
assessing the economic viability of the project and the best
resolution for the city.
John Sarpa, Savanah Ltd Partnership, said alternative #4 with some
adjustments to some of the conditions is one the applicants can
adhere to. Sarpa pointed out 12 months is the time period that has
been reflected in their schedules. This is not a 6 month project.
Sarpa said the applicants have no problem with a 6 month review
during this 12 month extension. Mayor Stirling saying there are
certain conditions that have to be completed during this period and
tying it to a shorter time frame will allow the city to see the
first 14 conditions are completed. Mayor Stirling said he likes
tying an extension to performance. Councilwoman Pendleton also
favored the six month extension. Sarpa said the project cannot be
completed in 6 months and they are asking for 12 months. Sarpa
said the applicants are still working on the details on specifical-
ly when this will be completed.
Mark Hayutin said the applicants are not arguing against the
continued monitoring of performance by staff. Hayutin told Council
the applicants are not done "pencilling". They do not know that
the hotel will be built. They will continue doing things with the
goal that if October 1 comes that the city is protected and is not
worse off for having granted the extension. Hayutin stated it will
take 12 months from that point to complete the project. Hayutin
said he is concerned that the burden of proof continues to shift
and would have to reshift the burden of proof under a new Council.
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Hayutin said the applicants are not arguing with what has been
asked of them during the 6 months, the issue is the form of the
extension.
Hughes said the construction schedule they are submitting is the
timeline; the city has rights under section M to bring the
applicants in under non-compliance hearings. Hughes said the way
alternative #5 is drafted, they would have to come in and have
another hearing. Hughes told Council the applicants are still
trying to attract outside investors for this project. The 6 month
extension would leave some doubt in the project. Councilman Peters
asked if Hayutin's client intend to complete the hotel. Hayutin
said AEI's view is the economics of this hotel do not work in
today's changed hotel economy. AEI is continuing to work on this
but is not prepared to say they will continue to pour millions of
dollars into the hotel. Hayutin said this is not to say they have
any intention of building a smaller hotel or a lesser quality
hotel.
Hayutin told Council the applicants will continue to spend money
over the next couple of months; however, at a slower pace than if
they knew they were going to go forward and get done as rapidly as
possible. Hayutin said their goal is to get the time so if they
make the decision to go forward, they will have enough time to
complete the hotel. Mayor Stirling asked if the project does not
"pencil", is there the intention to come back to Council and ask
for more rooms, greater mass, less affordable housing, no ice rink.
Mayor Stirling said he does not understand how the applicants will
make this pencil . Hadid told Council one way of making the project
pencil is by different, less expensive financing. Hayutin said
there may be cost savings in the project. Hayutin said the
applicant's staff has not had the time to develop the numbers to
feel confident the project will go. Hayutin said this decision
will be made before October 1. The applicants have committed to
spending additional money in the interim.
Councilwoman Pendleton asked what the objection is to a review in
6 months. Hayutin answered the issue is a political and legal
issue. The applicants will be facing a new Council. This will be
a recommendation from staff and the applicants may have to prove
their case all over again. Caswall suggested the Council could
grant a 12 month extension now with the last 6 months being
contingent upon conditions 1 through 14 being met.
Sarpa reminded Council when they went through the amendment
process, the Grand Aspen was discussed at length. Sarpa said the
time frame for determining the permit for demolition was linked to
a certificate of occupancy for the Ritz. The thought was no later
than 3 years after the Ritz was occupied, the Grand Aspen was to
come down. Sarpa said this time frame was driven by the city's
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interest in having moderate range hotel rooms available. Sarpa
said since the amendment was granted, there has not been an influx
of moderate hotel rooms in the market. Sarpa said it is even more
important to have those kind of beds available, and an additional
one year makes sense for the demolition of the Grand Aspen.
Ms. Margerum said staff has not received any evidence why this
extension is necessary under the provisions of the section M
amendment. Ms. Margerum pointed out these development proposals
were approved in 1988 and are now being extended to 1998 and
beyond. Ms. Margerum said reconstruction credits are only good for
5 years from the date a building is torn down. This request will
extend out reconstruction credits for almost 12 years in some
cases. Ms. Margerum pointed out of the reconstruction credits
lapse, a developer can go through growth management and receive an
allocation. The purpose for this is to pace the level of growth so
that people do not store up credits and the town gets a lot of
growth in one year. Also, times change; rules and mitigation
requirements change. Ms. Margerum said another reason for the
delay in demolition of the Grand Aspen was so the community would
not have to go through constant construction. Ms. Margerum said
this construction has gone on so long, this may not be valid any
longer.
Harvey said the applicants are requesting a one year extension on
the demolition permit for the Grand Aspen. They are not revising
the date by which they are obligated to obtain a building permit
for the Grand Aspen, nor an extension of the date to get a
certificate of occupancy. Harvey said the reconstruction of the
units will occur under the same time line. Harvey pointed out
originally there was 2 years between demolition and the beginning
of reconstruction; there will now be 1 year. Ms. Margerum
suggested taking the provision out of the PUD that ties the
demolition date of the Grand Aspen to the extension of the recon-
struction credits. Harvey said the reason that was in the PUD
agreement was that the units had already been torn down and they
had no life other than in the PUD.
Sarpa said the applicants have no problem with condition #1.
Councilwoman Pendleton said the applicants had discussed a gravel
sidewalk in front of the construction of the ice rink. Harvey said
they have looked at this and a gravel sidewalk would be difficult
to maintain in the winter. The intent is still to move the fence
back to improve the appearance. Ferd Belz, construction manager,
said in condition #2 they would like the date changed from August
1 to September 1. The Blue Spruce date is September 1 and they
would like to use the access. Caswall said to the extent there is
no conflict with the city's street work, there would be no problem
in changing that date.
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Sarpa said conditions #3, 4 and 5 are fine. Joe Imbriani said
condition #6 has more to do with safety than aesthetics and the
applicants are anxious to comply with all safety requirements.
Imbriana told Council they are willing to do this but would like
more time to think about how it is to be done and would like to
extend the deadline to September 1. Diane Moore said the date in
the condition is to initiate it, not completion date. Staff feels
they can work out the completion date with the applicant.
Harvey said in conditions #7 and 8 the final development plan will
contain a request for rezoning of the ice rink/park. Harvey asked
if it is staff's intention to go through a separate hearing process
for the rezoning separate from the site specific review. Ms.
Margerum said the original plan was for the applicant to apply for
rezoning in July; they are now asking for an extension to Septem-
ber. Staff feels this rezoning should occur immediately. Mayor
Stirling agreed with rezoning at the earliest date. Harvey said he
would like to submit the rezoning request along with the final
development plan by September 25. If Savanah does not apply, the
city will initiate rezoning with all fees paid by the applicant.
Council agreed to the July 1 date.
The applicant requested the date in condition #9 be changed to
August 1 instead of July 1. Ms. Margerum said this would push the
building permit date back and that is something the applicants
committed in their construction schedule. Belz said they cannot
get all the information in by July 1. Gary Lyman, chief building
official, told Council staff needs an adequate amount of time to
review information to process the #1 building permit. Staff is
trying to avoid the situation where the applicant comes in the last
week of July with information expecting the permit by August 1.
Sarpa told Council the applicant is still in discussion with staff
about taxes in condition #10. Hughes said after the county use tax
was passed, the applicants met with the county staff to discuss the
implications of the use tax on this project. It was deemed that
the Ritz was grandfathered by virtue of the provisions in the state
enabling statutes, exempt projects for which there was a contract
let. Hughes said "any applicable taxes paid" would take care of
his objection. Hayutin said in #11 the language should state the
applicant should have the alternative of either securing a bond or
demolishing the project. Council agreed.
Sarpa said condition #12 is fine. Condition #13, the issue of a
demolition bond, the electors have indicated and there is still a
strong feeling to have a high quality hotel facility. Consistent
with that, if the applicants are not the ones to accomplish this,
Council ought to be in the best position possible to complete that
intent rather than having a levelled site. Sarpa suggested a
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"button up" or demolition bond. Sarpa said on the last condition
if the applicants owe the city money, it will be paid.
Councilwoman Pendleton asked what amount for a demolition bond.
Ms. Margerum said staff has estimated this at $4,000,000. Hughes
said the applicants want to give adequate financial assurances to
give Council the comfort level they want. Hughes suggested a
performance deed of trust on other income property. Councilman
Tuite said his problem with "button up" is that ownership remains
with the applicants. The community could wind up with a buttoned
up building for years should the applicants decide no one has met
their price. Hayutin said it should be at the option of the
partnership whether the financial assurances are a letter of
credit, certificate of deposit, cash surety bond, or performance
deed of trust on the Barbee/Mine dumps. Hayutin said the appli-
cants will probably not put up the collateral if they have not
decided to go full ahead with the construction; they will not meet
the condition for the extension under that circumstance. Mayor
Stirling asked if on a deed of trust it would be a first position.
Hayutin said yes.
Hughes entered into the record a letter from Ritz Carlton confirm-
ing continued commitment to the hotel. Also entered into the
record declarations of people familiar with the issues alluding to
the financial problems due to the Persian Gulf crisis and the
recession in the hotel industry and escalating costs beyond the
control of the applicant causing the need to reevaluate the
project. Omar Benjamin, under oath, stated the information
contained in the two declaration signed by him is correct. Aziz
Al-Yahah, under oath, confirmed the accuracy of the statements
contained in Charles Wallace's declaration concerning the refusal
of banks which had previously affirmed letters of credit to refuse
further confirmation and the softening of rial as a currency.
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing.
Jim Curtis was given the oath. Curtis said in his April 23 letter
he supported granting the extension with conditions. Curtis
encouraged Council to proceed with a phased 6 month extension,
which would ask the developer to proceed in good faith to fulfill
his commitments and gives the community the ability to monitor the
process and commitments. Curtis suggested Council add conditions
concerning the affordable housing commitments for the Bavarian Inn
and conditions concerning the appropriate employee housing capacity
of the Copper Horse and Alpina Haus. These are not listed in the
recommended conditions from staff but are very important. Curtis
said it is important some financial assurance be given for this
project, like a demolition bond. Curtis told Council he was
engaged in 1983 and 1984 by the developer and worked with informa-
tion that was submitted by the various property managers at that
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time. Curtis said there may be some factual errors in that
information.
Steve Goldenberg was given the oath. Goldenberg suggested another
condition for a deed restriction to guarantee that at no point in
the future will this property be turned into condominiums or time
sharing. Richard Roth was given the oath. Roth asked how staff
ascertained it is the community's desire to see this hotel
completed. Ms. Margerum answered they based this on the election
in February 1990. Roth said the Bavarian Inn as employee housing
should be addressed in these conditions. Roth noted that Savanah,
in their advertising, told the community over $80 million would be
spent on employee housing. Roth said Council should add there be
performance bonds added so that housing will be built. Roth said
the voters approved a hotel not time share units or condominiums.
These should be explicitly spelled out in the agreement. Roth said
unless these are spelled out Council should deny the extension as
requested.
David Guthrie was given the oath. Guthrie urged Council to grant
the extension. Guthrie said he does not want to see the building
torn down. Guthrie suggested a transfer of the property, like lot
1, not the Barbee/Mine Dumps. Charif Souki was given the oath.
Souki agreed with not having a demolition bond but requiring a
completion bond.
Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilman Peters asked if Hayutin's client is unable to provide
funds to complete the project. Hayutin said they are not saying
AEI does not have funds to complete the project; there was a war
going on and there was a delay with these funds. The intention to
invest in Aspen was not as a play toy but as a long term investment
which would ultimately have value. Hayutin said in the original
PUD there were discussions about not allowing change of economic
conditions to be a ground for requesting an extension. The final
PUD deleted these concerns. Hayutin said preponderance of evidence
does not mean this has to weigh 5 or 8 pounds . Hayutin said there
have been disputes between the partners; these disputes arose in
part because of the economics. Hayutin said it is clear to anyone
familiar with the hotel industry the days of certain values for
"trophy" hotels have come to a halt, at least temporarily. Hayutin
said there has been a severe change of the legitimate expectations
of Al-Yahaw. Hayutin said they are not proposing to walk away from
investments of $60 million in the hotel as well as other millions
of dollars invested in the community. Hayutin said there will be
an economic decision made about the hotel.
Mayor Stirling asked if AEI did an in depth financial analysis
before becoming involved in this project. Hayutin told Council
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there was an economic analysis done, projects were received, some
studies were done. Hayutin said he would not call it in depth.
Councilman Peters moved that based on the evidence presented at
these hearings that Savanah Ltd Partnership has not presented
sufficient evidence to prove that the delays are through no fault
of their own and that the extension be denied. Motion DIES for
lack of a second.
Councilwoman Pendleton moved to grant alternative #5 granting 6
month extension with the 14 conditions as amended at this meeting,
and that in condition #13, would entertain other financial
assurances other than a demolition bond, to be determined by staff
and Council. Councilman Tuite said Council should make a motion
first on findings that there have been circumstances beyond the
applicant's control that would warrant an extension. Councilwoman
Pendleton withdrew her motion.
Hayutin said what the applicants have showed is that the project
has been delayed by factors outside their influence. The fact that
AEI had the financial wherewithal is not diapositive of that issue.
The issue is whether or not there were changed economic conditions .
The issue is whether there was a delay in the ability to move rials
and convert them into dollars. The issue is whether economic
conditions of the hotel changed.
Councilwoman Pendleton moved the applicants have shown a preponder-
ance of evidence that there exists a need to grant a section M
amendment; seconded by Councilman Tuite.
Councilman Gassman asked what if the economics in the hotel
business continue poorly until October. Hayutin said at both the
time when the war was happening and the economic changes, the
applicants did not have a feel for how long this was going to last.
Hayutin said it is not necessary for the recession to be over to
make an economically viable decision. Councilman Tuite said a
finding that the delays were beyond the control of the applicant
does not mean the extension is granted; it means Council may grant
the extension. Councilman Peters asked if the applicants will be
back for another extension making the same argument about economic
viability. Hughes said he hopes not. Hughes said he feel changed
economic conditions can warrant a change in the construction
schedule.
All in favor, motion carried.
Mayor Stirling moved to direct staff to prepare a resolution
and/or ordinance around alternative #5 with amendments as discussed
for a continued meeting May 29; seconded by Councilman Tuite. All
in favor, motion carried.
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Council continued the meeting to May 29 at 5 p.m.
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