HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.20021216Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 16, 2002
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION .................................................... i ............................... 2
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS ........................................................................ 4
COUNCIL CONTINGENCY FUNDING FOR DISPLAY CASE ................... 6
RESOLUTION #117, SERIES OF 2002 - Contract Monolithic Sculptures
Wagner Park Playground Equipment ........................................................................ 6
RESOLUTION # 120, SERIES OF 2002 - Deputy Municipal Judge
Appointment - Anthony Hershey ............................................................................. 6
ORDINANCE #49, SERIES OF 2002 - Housing Guidelines ........................... 6
ORDINANCE #42, SERIES OF 2002 - 533 W. Francis Historic Lot Split.. 7
ORDINANCE #43, SERIES OF 2002 - 333 West Bleeker Historic Lot Split
ORDINANCE #44, SERIES OF 2002 216 East Hallam Historic Lot Split 9
ORDINANCE #45, SERIES OF 2002 - Supplemental Appropriations ........ 12
RESOLUTION #119, SERIES OF 2002 - Temporary Use Sleigh Rides on
Golf Course .................................................................................................................... 13
RESOLUTION #121, SERIES OF 2002 - 218 North Monarch Appeal of
HPC Decision ................................................................................................................ 14
RESOLUTION #118, SERIES OF 2002 - In Support of New Maroon Creek
Bridge .............................................................................................................................. 20
BURLINGAME PARCEL D DESIGN CONTRACTS ..................................... 21
Regular Meetin~ Aspen City Council December 16, 2002
Mayor Klanderud called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with
Councilmembers Semrau, Paulson, Hershey and McCabe present.
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
1. Caroline MacDonald reminded Council she started a historic lot split,
which took 2 years while waiting for a new historic ordinance. Ms.
MacDonald noted two of the conditions on her approval were to get the plat
map signed off before December 31 and to submit a plan for repair and
repainting on the Elisha house by December 31. Ms. MacDonald said the
way the FAR calculations read, her I0' 1" ceiling causes the FAR to be
calculated at 1.5 times because of the 1" and the extra square footage in the
attic required painting. Ms. MacDonald told Council her submitted plan
states, "I am going to repair the exposed wood and repaint the house". Ms.
MacDonald said she has a lot of other issues with the city; however, she had
to submit a work plan by December 31sI. Ms. MacDonald requested Council
to direct staff to honor the work plan. Ms. MacDonald said she received a
letter from the city attorney stating she should go back to HPC for
renegotiation. Ms. MacDonald said she feels her work plan is very clear.
2. Ann Owsley, daughter of Claire Sandersen, said Claire received many
awards from Aspen. Ms. Sandersen was a pacifist and an activist. Ms.
Owsley said she has created the Claire Sandersen Pacifism award and is
going to give it to Terry Paulson. Ms. Owsley said when people gather at
the Viet Nam memorial for Memorial Day and Veteran's Day, peace is the
main topic of conversation at these celebrations. Ms. Owsley said Council
should take a stand on this ~ssue as it will be the community's children sent
tO War.
3. Mayor Klanderud said regarding the trolleys, there are letters of intent
and bills of sale signed by the city. Council has made its decision to dispose
of the trolleys. Mayor Klanderud said citizens can continue to attend and to
petition Council regarding the trolleys; however, this is not a good use of
citizens' time, Council's time or the community's time. Mayor Klanderud
said one person representing the trolleys may petition Council for 3 minutes.
Ramona Markalunas read a resolution regarding the trolleys, requesting
these trolleys be sold as a lot in a sealed bid process and giving the money to
a local non-profit organization. The resolution states "the Aspen Street
Railway Co. wishes to have closure on the issue of the 'disposal of the
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trolleys', the members of the Aspen Street Railway Co. guarantee that the
subject of the trolleys will never be brought before this present City Council
The Aspen Street Railway Company recognizes the City Council of Aspen,
Colorado, for its forbearance on this issue and acknowledges that these City
owned assets must serve the needs of the Citizens of Aspen".
Mayor Klanderud said the City Council has done what they believe to be the
right thing and would like closure on this ~ssue, also. Councilman Paulson
asked if Council feels 46% of citizens who voted for the trolley can be
ignored. Mayor Klanderud noted the members of Council who lost the
election on the entrance to Aspen are not bringing that up again and again.
4~ Toni Kronberg said she would like to speak about the trolley issue.
Mayor Klanderud said she is not to speak about the trolleys. Ms. Kronberg
said this is public comment and she has 3 minutes to speak. Mayor
Klanderud said Council is not taking any more comment about the trolleys.
Councilman Paulson asked if it is the will of Council not to let citizens
speak. Ms. Kronberg noted she was denied the opportunity to exercise her
constitutional right to speak. Ms. Kronberg said the last time she came to
Council, she asked Council if they would consider donating the trolley to
one of the 2 pool groups, Friends of Moore pool or SPARC. Ms. Kronberg
said they did not get bleachers for the pool. Ms. Kronberg read from the
trolley ballot language, "and provided further that the city manager ~s
authorized to dispose of the trolleys cars", and it does not say dispose of to
whom. Mayor Klanderud asked Ms. Kronberg not to proceed any further.
Ms. Kronberg said that decision was made at a brown bag lunch. Mayor
Klanderud stated it is a privilege to speak in Council meetings and when that
privilege is abused Council does not have to continue to honor it. Ms.
Kronberg stated it is a right, not a privilege. Ms. Kronberg asked the record
note she was denied the opportunity to exercise freedom of speech. Ms.
Kronberg asked if Council will be taking comment on supplemental
appropriations. Mavor Klanderud said that is a public hearing. Ms.
Kronberg said she does not see why the city will not donate the trolleys to a
non-profit group in town when it was not approved by the voters exactly
how to dispose of them and the decision was made in a brown bag lunch
meeting, not in a City Council meeting.
5. Bill Stifling brought up Resolution #118, regarding the Maroon Creek
bridge. MayOr Klanderud pointed out this is on the agenda and the Council
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agenda states this is time for any citizen to address Council on issues NOT
on the agenda. Stirling asked this resolution be tabled until 2003.
6. Toni Kronberg said Council does not normally take public comment
on action items and asked if there will be comments allowed on Resolution
#118 regarding the Maroon Creek bridge. Mayor Klanderud said Council
will allow comments. Ms. Kronberg asked the city attorney if it is not a
citizen's right to speak on whatever they want during citizen's comments.
John Worcester, city attorney, said the Mayor, as the presiding officer of
City Council, has an obligation to preside over the meeting including proper
decorum. The Mayor can limit comment anyway she sees fit, and if a
majority of Council disagree, they can overrule her decision. The Mayor is
~n charge of running the meeting.
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS
1. Mayor Klanderud congratulated Casey Puckett for winning 24 Hours
of Aspen, which is an amazing feat in an amazing race.
2. Mayor Klanderud wished everyone Happy Holidays and Peace in the
new year. Mayor Klanderud said Council has big issues to deal with. It
does not serve the community well to continue to discredit City Council.
One can disagree with some of the people all of the time, all of the people
some of the time. Mayor Klanderud said she hopes everyone enters the New
Year with the best interests of Aspen mind and with the hope that 2003 is a
stellar year. Mayor Klandernd thanked all citizens who helped make Aspen
what it is.
3. Councilman Hershey said there was a panel last week at the high
school, including the Mayor, at which drugs and drugs in the school was
discussed. Councilman Hershey said he would like Council to schedule a
work session with the police department and discuss underage drinking in
local bars and suggestions for how this might be addressed. Mayor
Klanderud said she thought the school committee was going to come back
with proposals. Loren Ryerson, chie£ofpolice, said he felt this was a call
for the community to start the discussion on substance abuse.
4. Councilman Paulson said this year is not ending on pleasing
circumstances; the trolley and the entrance to Aspen are two examples.
Councilman Paulson said he has problems with a Council that bullies
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citizens. This Council is abuSing their authoritY. Council:man paUlson said
he hoPeS 2003 ~om~s ofit better than this one~ If Council is dOing a good
job, there will not be as many citizens' comments, no matter what the issue.
Councilman Paulson said he would like to start out the new year with a
resolution to listen to citizens.
5. Councilman McCabe said a past city Council came to ask this Council
to pass a resolution regarding peace in Iraq. Councilman McCabe noted
none of these Council members were veterans. Councilman McCabe said he
is a veteran and shooting at people is not theoretical to him. Councilman
McCabe said he does not like it when people who did not 'serve this country
tell him what to do. Many veterans are the biggest peace proponents in the
USA. Councilman McCabe stated it is not the place of Aspen City Council
to pass a resolution having anything to do with peace in Iraq. Councilman
McCabe said Council passing a resolution displays no courage; it is a feel
good action that means nothing.
6. Councilman McCabe said the resolution on Maroon Creek bridge did
not come from a majority of behind the scenes Council to put this on the
agenda. Councilman McCabe noted this was discussed at the Council retreat
earlier this month. Mayor Klanderud pointed out last year at Council's
retreat, all 5 Council agreed they could support the new Maroon Creek
bridge. At this year's retreat, 4 Council people directed staff to draft a
resolution to go to CDOT to disconnect the Maroon Creek bridge issue from
the entrance to Aspen issue and deal with the bridge separately.
7. Councilman Semrau said that bullies do not put questions on an
election ballot. If this Council were truly bullies,'the trolleYs would have
been gone a year ago and there would have been no entrance to Aspen
question on the ballot. Councilman Semrau said Council Will follow what
the electorate said and will listen to citizens in the new year.
8. City Manager Steve Barwick requested Burlingame parcel D,
developer selection be added to the end of the agenda. Barwick also
requested an executive session at the end of the meeting to discuss a
personnel issue.
9. Mayor Klanderud announced that RFTA passed a balanced budget for
2003. The Board has made it ~lear there is concern that RFTA continue to
scrutinize its budget so that the level of subsidy is not so high. There was
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unanimous Support for a resolution to try to implement green buses into the
transportation system. There is an order in to Neoplan fo~ the new
Highlands bus and the company approached RFTA to see if they were
interested in a hybrid bus. RFTA BOard passed a resolutiOn to take action on
issues of national and state concern that directly affects the mission of
RFTA.
10. Councilman McCabe said the Aspen Youth Council has been meeting
regularly. Mayor Klanderud and Councilman McCabe have addressed the
school on civics in social studies. The Youth Council has been Soliciting
apphcations for grants for youth activities. One of the Youth Council
members will serve on the ARC committee.
COUNCIL CONTINGENCY FUNDING FOR DISPLAY CASE
Councilman Hershey moved to approve this; seconded by Councilman
Semrau. All in favor, motion carried.
RESOLUTION #117, SERIES OF 2002 - Contract Monolithic Sculptures
Wagner Park Playground Eqmpment
Councilman Semrau moved to approve Resolution #I 17, Series of 2002;
seconded by Councilman Paulson. All in favor with the exception of
Councilman McCabe; motion carried.
RESOLUTION #120, SERIES OF 2002 - Deputy Municipal Judge
Appointment - Anthony Hershey
Councilman Hershey left the room due to a conflict of interest. Councilman
Semrau moved to approve Resolution #120, Series of 2002; seconded by
Councilman McCabe. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #49, SERIES OF 2002 - Housing Guidelines
Councilman Hershey moved to read Ordinance #49, Series of 2002;
seconded by Councilman Semrau. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE NO. 49
(Series of 2002)
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AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTJONS ON AN
ANNUAL BASIS FOR THE ASPEN/PITK!N COUNTY iAFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND OTHER AMENDED CHANGES AS STATED IN THE
GUIDELINES AS RECOMMENDED BY THE ASPEN/PITKIN COUNTY
HOUSING AUTHORITY
Councilman Paulson moved to adopt Ordinance #49, Series of 2002, on first
reading; seconded by Councilman Semrau.
Roll call vote: Semrau, yes~ McCabe, yes~ Hershey, yes~ Paulson, yes;
Mayor Klanderud, yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #42~ $RRIES OF 2001 - 533 W. Francis Historic Lot Split
Katie Ertmer, community development department, entered into the record a
letter received by FAX from a neighbor, Lucy Dikeou. The proposal is to
create two lots, 4200 square feet containing a historic structure and 4800
square feet, currently vacant. The applicants propose an addition to the
historic house. The applicant worked with HPC to reduce the size of the
addition and to preserve the integrity of the historic structure. HPC
reco~ended approval. The letter from Ms. Dikeou indicated concerns
With variances, that they are not consiStent with the historic pattern of the
neighborhood, that the project was inaccurately described, and that there was
no carport.
Mitch Haas, representing the applicant, told Council this property could be
condominiumized into two lots withoUt city review; however, this process
creates a lot line and is easier to finance. HPC was very supportive of this
and called it a "model project". Haas pointed to the model of this project
showing the scale of the addition. The miner's cottage is on the front with
the addition on the rear. Haas noted the houSe next door encroaches On to
this property and there is an existing easement agreement.
Mayor Klanderud opened the public hearing.
Dale Potvin, representing John Oxley, told Council his client has concerns
about the view plane, particularly on the undeveloped lot. Potvin requested
Council direct the applicant to meet with the Oxleys when that lot is
develoPed and to be respectful of the view plane.
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Mayor Klanderud closed the public hearing.
Mayor Klanderud said there were concerns about this neighborhood with
previous development. Amy Guthrie, community development department,
told Council the house on the other side of West Smuggler, which has
caused the neighbors to be concerned, in question was not a historic property
and was rebuilt to non-conforming standards. Ms. Guthrie said HPC felt
strongly that the variances for 533 West Francis were appropriate to grant
separation between the historic house and the new cons~ction and to give
flexibility to build a one-story addition to the miner's cottage. The HPC
feels variances are an appropriate way to reach historic goals of the city.
Haas noted the original variance requests were larger than what was
approved. In the original Plan, the addition was closer to the Fifth street
right-of-way. Now the historic structure is closest to the street. Haas told
Council the new structure will be subject to HPC review and the height
limit, which in this zone district is 25 feet.
Councilman Hershey moved to adopt Ordinance #42, Series of 2002, on
second reading; seconded by Councilman Semrau.
CounCilman Pauls0n said he WOUld like to see the ordin~ce amended to
address the Potvin's concern. Mayor Klanderud said council cannot require
the HPC not to go through their process
Roll call vote: McCabe, yes; Semrau, yes; Paulson, no; Hershey, yes. Mayor
Klanderud, yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #43, SERIES OF 2002 - 333 West Bleeker Historic Lot
Split
Katie Ertmer, community development department, told Council this is a
9,000 square foot lot and the proposal is to create a 6,000 square foot lot
containing structures listed on the national register, and a vacant 3,000
square foot lot. The land is subdivided to protect the structures listed on the
national register and the majority of the FAR will go into the new house.
Alan Richman, representing the applicant, told COuncil no variances are
being requested. The proposal meets two of the city's goals, moving the
floor.area away from this historic structure, and to allow a small infill unit
on the new 3,000 square foot lot.
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Mayor Klanderud opened thepublic hearing. There were no comments.
Mayor Klanderud closed the public hearing.
Councilman Semrau asked if the 6,000 square foot lot could be split again.
Amy Guthrie, community development department, said the owners could
apply for conditional use to do 2 detached units; however, with the small
amount of FAR left, this would probably be unlikely.
Councilman Hershey moved to adopt Ordinance #43, Series of 2002, on
second reading; seconded by Councilman McCabe. Roll call vote: Paulson,
yes; McCabe, yes; Hershey, yes; Semrau, yes; Mayor Klanderud, yes.
Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #44~ SERIES OF 2002 - 216 East Hallam Historic Lot Split
Councilman Hershey entered a letter from Mr. Amato into the record. Amy
Guthrie, community development department, noted this application is for a
small addition to the historic house and the rest of the square footage going
to the new building. This is a goal of HPC. Ms. Guthrie reminded Council
they reviewed this last summer and granted an access license and vacated a
portion of an alley. The property is immediately to the east of the Red Brick
School. The house is in very poor condition and has had some
unsympathetic treatment. The proposal is to divide the property into three
3,000 square foot parcels; move the Frost house a few feet to the west; to
reverse the alterations; add a garage on the back of the house; add a new
building. Ms. Guthrie noted the new building will comply with all required
setbacks and dimensional requirements. The new building will be behind
the spruce trees. HPC feels this project meets their design guidelines and
recommends approval. The barn is on a separate parcel and is being restored
to a single-family dwelling.
Stan Clauson, representing the applicant, reminded Council Ordinance #1,
2002, provides for historic lot splits on 6,000 square feet. This lot split
meets all requirements of the code. Clauson noted the FAR is established by
the size of the parcel and the zone district. In R-6, total FAR is 3240 square
feet; HPC has granted a 500 square foot historic preservation bonus so the
FAR will be 3740 square feet and will be divided 1946 square feet to the
historic residence and 1794 square feet to the new residence. Clauson
pointed out the new residence ~s smaller because of the site constraints, like
the large spruce tree. The existing width of the historic structure is 29 feet
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SO the HPC granted a variance for side yard setbacks. Clanson said the
existing Frost house will be restored according to historic pictures of thc
house.
Camilla Auger, applicant, reminded Council through this application land to
the north owned by thc Trueman Center was given to the city. The applicant
has put some landscaping on this parcel. The applicant put 12 Victorian
trellis along the edge of the Red Brick School. Fine gravel will be laid on
the driveway between the Red Brick School and the Frost property.
Mayor Klandernd opened the public hearing. Mayor Klandcrud entered a
letters from Helen Palmer, Mr. Amato, Kermit Sutton, Paul Rutledge and
Monte and Richard Johnson into the record. There is a packet from Bert
Myrin sent to all Council including a copy of the P&Z minutes denying a
duplex.
Hal Dishler, representing Amato, told Council his client has thc same
concern as that of the P&Z. Dishler said this is the essentially same project
that was denied by P&Z. There are safety concerns with 3 residences using
a common driveway, which is also used by pedestrians and bicyclists.
Dishler said his client is also ,concerned about 3 dWellings and the massing
and density of those.
Denise Diers read a letter into the record from Paul and Susan Perm, which
was also submitted to P&Z in July. Perm's letter noted they, too, went
through HPC and built an ADU rather than a larger structure, Penn stated
rezoning does not give any benefits to the community at large. The
variances will only benefit the developers. Ms. Diers told Council she
looked at the historic incentives, which state they are to encourage good
historical preservation practices. Ms. Diers asked if the incentives have
become something other than good. The incentives state quality of life is the
guiding principle behind the program. Ms. Diers said only the developer's
quality of life is being enhanced in this proposal. Ms. Diers said the
construction of adding an additional dwelling will impact the neighborhood
for a long time. Ms. Diers noted the view to Red Mountain and of the barn
will be obliterated. The neighborhood viewed this as one lot and it is now
going to become 3 lots.
Bill Stirling said this is a good example of the new historic lot split
ordinance and an incentive for preservation of Victorians. This proposal is
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to break up the mass and not have one large dwelling on the front of the lot.
Stirling said there are duplexes throughout this neighborhood; there ~s a
large multi-use public building immediately to the west There are no height
variances being requested, nor is this a proposal for a large addition on the
back of a historic structure.
Mayor Klanderud closed the public hearing.
Mayor Klanderud asked if a duplex were approved by P&Z, would there
have been a ADU required. Ms. Guthrie said the applicant would have had
to provide cash-in-lieu or a duplex. Ms. Guthrie reminded Council in March
2000, the historic preservation ordinance was amended and there is no
housing mitigation required. Councilman Semrau asked if what happened at
P&Z is relevant since this is a different application for a lot split. Ms.
Guthrie said HPC read the P&Z minutes and decided that discussion had
nothing to bear on the standards for a lot split. Mayor Klanderud said this
may result in a better finished product; however, it is very similar to the
previous proposal Ms. Klanderud noted this was not a rezoning for
development. The only property rezoned was a rear portion and this
rezoning did not permit more development.
Clauson reiterated that Ordinance #1, 2002, was a move away from larger
lOts with larger structures and a move toward the smaller, historic lots.
Clauson said this proposal is consistent with the historic character of the
west end. The 3740 square feet allocated to the front lot remains the same
whether it is a single-family house, a duplex or a lot split. The lot split
provides more of a view corridor through the property than would a larger
structure.
Councilman Hershey said HPC, staff and Council worked hard on
revamping the HPC review and criteria. Councilman Hershey said he would
support this lot split on the recommendation of HPC. Mayor Klanderud
asked why P&Z voted against this project. Ms. Guthrie said the standards
for a duplex and for a lot split are different and P&Z was not convinced that
project was compatible with the density of the neighborhood. HPC favors
creating smaller lots.
Councilman Paulson said he has a problem with the direction of HPC.
Councilman Paulson stated to him the Mona Frost building is a historic
property, sitting on a lot with a lot of space and a barn in the back.
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Councilman Paulson said he has trouble understanding why a lot split would
enhance the historic nature of this parcel. Ms. Auger told Council the
complaint from P&Z was the density, that it was incompatible with the
neighborhood to have a duplex. Ms. Auger pointed out she is trying to
restore a historic house next to a 30,000 square foot mixed use structure.
Ms. Auger noted the criteria for a duplex are more complicated than a lot
split, which criteria are very straightforward. Ms. Auger said this
application is for the same square footage and the same site coverage but
two little houses have a better look. Clauson said there was confusion on
how the conditional use criteria should apply to a duplex. Clauson said in
passing a code amendment to allow lot splits on lots of 6,000 square feet,
Council supports a historic house on a 3,000 square foot lot.
Councilman Semrau said one of the goals of the historic preservation
program was not to have overpowering additions on small historic resources.
The goal of historic lot splits was to encourage people to create smaller
multiple dwellings. Councilman Semrau said he feels this direction will
help to preserve the integrity of the city's historic resources. Councilman
McCabe agreed this ~s a different x~ay to approach historic preservation
while trying to make it economically viable.
Councilman Semrau moved to adopt Ordinance #44, Series of 2002, on
second reading; seconded by Councilman Hershey.
Councilman Paulson said he will vote for this with reservations as he feels
HPC is missing the point about historic preservation. Councilman Paulson
said this is saving a house but not the character of the site.
Roll call vote: Semrau, yes; McCabe, yes; Paulson, yes; Hershey, yes;
Mayor Klanderud, yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #45~ SERIES OF 2002 - Supplemental Appropriations
Paul Menter, finance director, told Council this ordinance appropriates $6.2
million to the recreation center, $4.5 million from the Wheeler fund and $1.7
million from the housing day care fund. The terms of the interfund loans are
a maximum 4 years at 3.5% interest. Menter told Council staffmet with the
Wheeler Board last week and resolved the issues of concern expressed at the
last Council meeting.
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Mayor Klanderud opened the public hearing.
Toni Kronberg said the pool and ice facility were supposed to haVe separate
accounting. Ms. Kronberg asked where the $6 million is going, for what
will it be used, and how will it be Paid back. Ms. Kronherg said she would
like a break down of where the $6 million is going. Menter said this money
is going into fund 363 so it will have a positiVe caSh balance. These funds
will be repaid to the Wheeler and housing day care With interest. City
Manager Steve Barwick said the necessity for this loan is due to the fact that
the city has gotten farther in construction than SPARC has in its fund raising
efforts.
Ms. Kronberg asked why the pool was down sized and why the ice rink was
up sized. Ms. Kronberg said She would like to find out eXactly how much
money was spent on the pool. Menter said he would be glad to get these
figures.
Mayor Klandemd closed the public hearing.
Councilman Mccabe mOved to adOpt Ordinance #45, Series of 2002, on
second reading; seconded by Councilman Hershey. Roll call vote: Paulson,
yes; Semrau, yes; Hershey, yes; McCabe, yes; Mayor Klandemd, yes.
Motion carried.
RESOLUTION #119~ SERIES OF 2002 - Temporary Use Sleigh Rides on
Golf Course
Sarah Oates, conununity development department, told Council this request
is to allow commercial sleigh rides on the golf course from December 17th
through the end of March. These sleigh rides will be on the dog track
course. The applicant has worked with staff to make sure concerns are met.
The rides will be from 4 to 9 p.m. daily. Ms. Oates noted letters of support
have been received and one letter of concern from Tom Peirce. Staff
recommends apprOval as this meets the criteria for the temporary use.
Mayor Klanderud opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Mayor Klanderud closed the public hearing.
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Councilman Hershey moved to approve Resolution #119, Series of 2002;
Seconded by Councilman Semrau. All in favor, motion carried.
RESOLUTION #121~ SERIES OF 2002 - 218 North Monarch Appeal of
HPC Decision
John Worcester, city attorney, told Council this is an appeal of a decision
made by HPC; it is an appeal on the record, which is before Council in its
entirety. Worcester noted this is not an opportunity for the applicant to
argue the case; the facts found by the HPC and incorporated in the record are
the facts Council is to assume to be correct. The standard of review from the
land use code is that Council shall affirm the decision of t~e HPC unless
they determine there was an abuse of discretion or a denial of due process.
Worcester said these phrases are not defined in the city code, but there is a
case law in Colorado which has defined them. An abuse Of discretion could
include that HPC applied the wrong legal standard to the application, that the
record is devoid of any competent evidence to support the' decision of the
HPC. A denial of due procesS relates to the fairness of the process before
HPC, like failure of proper notice, HPC members not conducting themselves
impartially, not allowing the applicant to be heard, or any other procedural
irregularities. WorceSter said if COuncil finds an abuse of. disCretiOn or
denial of due process, they may take action t° remedy the situation,
including a reversal of the HPC decision, altering conditiOns of approval,
changing the timeline, or remanding the issue back to the HPC.
Worcester said Council has received several e-mails from the appellant and
these should be included in the record. These e-mails are dated December 9,
December 9, December 11, December 11, December 13, and December 12,
2002. Mayor Klanderud entered into the record an e:mail from her to the
applicant. Worcester said it is important that ex parte communications be
entered into the record. Councilman Hershey said due to the content of
some of these e-mails, he cannot be Partial on this application, recused
himself and left the room. Mayor Klanderud stated she has read the e-mails
but they have not influenced her. This is an appeal based on the record and
the substantive document is the minutes of the Historic Preservation
meeting. Councilman Semrau said he has not read them. Councilman
Paulson said he read one of the e-mails and has walked bY the site to look at
the fencing. Worcester said the issue for recusing oneself is whether a
C0~h~iipers°n Can Still have an open mind and be imparti'al. CounCilman
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McCabe said he read one e-mail to a point, then deleted it. The other e-
mails he deleted.
Amy Guthrie, community development department, pointed out Council has
the entire packet from HPC including the staff memorandum. There was a
minor development application hearing October 9, 2002. The application
was denied because HPC felt the fence was not consistent with the historic
preservation guidelines, which are the basis for all HPC decisions. Ms.
Guthrie stated all the code reqmrements and procedures were followed for
noticing and holding a hearing. The applicant was given a fair chance to
speak. HPC moved to deny the application finding the standards were not
met; they made a reasoned decision.
Ms. Guthrie pointed out there is a chapter in the historic preservation
guidelines dealing with streetscapes and lot features and in which fences are
discussed. There are 5 standards regarding new fences; HPC found 2 of
these were not met, which was the reason for denying the application. The
standards not met are 1.2 and 1.3. Ms. Guthrie pointed out there are general
overriding guidelines written in bold with supporting bullet points to
illuminate the reasoning behind these, to provide examples or additional
information. HPC found the bullet points under 1.2 and 1.3 did not support
an approval of this application. Ms. Guthrie said there is an underriding
policy of historic preservation, even on a national level, that there should be
an understanding of the history of a property and that one does not replicate
the historical features in a way that could be confusing. The concern with
this proposal, especially the posts, was that it was very confusing and
misleading that the fence is contemporary in front of a house over 100 years
old.
Ms. Guthrie told Council the applicant has taken issue with the fact the
guidelines use the term "a new replacement fence" in bold in the
memorandum yet the phrase is not repeated in the bullet points which are
supposed to support the bold statement. Ms. Guthrie told Council neither
she nor the applicant can confirm there has ever been a fence on this site.
Ms. Guthrie said the replacement comment is that a fence is one that
substitutes for what might have been when the house was built. Ms. Guthrie
recommended Council uphold HPC's decision.
Bert Myrin, applicant, said HPC exceeded its jurisdiction, abused its
discretion by denying the application for a new fence using criteria used for
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a replacement fence. Mynn Passed out a sheet containing the complete
criteria used by HPC, 1.2 stating a new replacement fence should use
materials that appear similar to that of the original. Myrin noted even
removing the word "replacement" indicates that the criteria are looking for
something similar to the original. Myrin said this rule is not applicable in
cases where there was no original fence. Myrin stated 1.3 reads "A new
replacement fence should have transparent qualifies", which again regards
replacement fences, not new fences. Myrin pointed out HPC's staff position
is outlined on this sheet and is that the supplementary statements clarify the
primary design guidelines and that they apply to replacement fences and
outline specific methods of complying with guideline. MYrin said staff's
memo states replacement is not given emphasis, but in 1.2 it is underlined.
Myrin told Council the box at the bottom is the criteria Council needs to
apply. The left side of this sheet is findings Council could make, that HPC
denied the applicant due process by not applying established rules; that HPC
exceeded its jurisdiction by going beyond what the motion relied on; that
HPC abused their discretion in creating rules that are not just for
replacement. Myrin said Council's remedies are to reverse the decision, to
alter the conditions of approval, remand the application back to HPC. Myrin
requested Council find HPC denied the applicant due process, exceeded its
jurisdiction and abused its discretion finding that guideline 1.2 is not
applicable, that a prior fence is not being replaced so there is no need to
consider material similar to the non-existent original. Myrin said Council
should also find that guideline 1.3 is not applicable when a prior fence is not
being replaced. Myrin requested Council direct staff to apply the
replacement rule only after staff definitively approves there has been a fence
on site before. Myrin said Council shall clarify the stated HPC regulation
that infers a fence once existed on absolutely every front yard to instead
infer a fence existed only when proven by staff.
Myrin said if Council finds that 1.2 and 1.3 should be applied to his case, he
has more evidence. Myrin said if Council finds that 1.2 and 1.3 are not
applicable and HPC applied rules that are not applicable, Council can
determine its action.
Mayor Klanderud said she finds 1.2 and 1.3 applicable. It is a specious
argument to definitively prove whether a fence ever existed there. The point
is that this is a historic property in a historic nmghborhood. Mayor
Klanderud said it makes sense these rules apply to a house that is historic.
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Mayor Klanderud said even if this is a replacement fence, the property
owner is bringing in new materials. Councilman Paulson said if there was
never an original fence, how can the replacement argument be used. Mayor
Klanderud said there is a style appropriate to that historical period. Mayor
Klandemd said the guideline is applicable.
Councilman McCabe asked how long this process has taken. Ms. Guthrie
said the fence permit application was dated September and the hearing
before HPC was October and the appeal was filed within the required period.
Councilman Paulson said these guidelines talk about replacement of an
original and do not apply to a new fence. Councilman Semrau stated the
burden of proof is on the applicant to clearly show there was an abuse of
discretion or denial of due process in order to justify Council overturning
HPC. Councilman Semrau said he does not feel there was an abuse of
discretion or denial of due process.
Councilman McCabe said although he can understand the applicant's
concern about the wording, it is clear what the intent of the guidelines are.
Councilman McCabe said it is clear what these guidelines are trying to
protect.
Myrin presented another sheet, which was if Council determined this is a
replacement fence, outlining the criteria HPC found was not met. One ~s
that any fence visible from public right-of-way must be built of wood or
wrought iron. A wood or picket fence is an appropriate replacement in most
locations, a simple wire fence may also be considered. Solid stockade
fences are only allowed in side or rear yards. Myrin said when this is
applied under 1.2, the style of the fence posts, like the color, ~s a detail left to
the property owner. The guideline focuses on larger concerns like limiting
of material to avoid the duplication of a contemporary CDOT cement jersey
barrier style. Myrin said finding 1.2 is not met is a violation ora fair
application of established rules. Myrin stated the criteria of 1.2 are met.
Myrin read 1.3, "A new replacement fence should have a transparent quality
allowing views into the yard from the street. A fence defines a front yard is
usually low to the ground and transparent in nature. On residential
properties, a fence which is located forward of the front building faCade may
not be taller than 42" from natural grade. A privacy fence may be used in
back yards and along alleys but not forward of the front faCade of the
building. Note that using no fence at all is often the best approach.
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Contemporary interpretations of traditional fences should be compatible
with the historic context." Myrin told Council there are two different posts
under consideration, and the usage of the two has no bearing on the
transparency of the fence. The fence itself is transparent and allows views
of the front yard. The distinction between the posts does not impact the
views of the yard. Either post is 4 inches wide and the 6 posts take up 24
inches along 112 feet of street.
Myrin pointed out post #5 is 41 inches tall, which meets the criteria of 42
inches; the #16 post approved by HPC is 50 inches tall and does not meet
this criteria. Myrin stated he does not feel the bullet point stating a privacy
fence may be used along back yards and alleys is applicable at all. Myrin
told Council he has never suggested a privacy fence. Myrin said this is an
abuse of discretion in applying roles that do not apply. Myrin noted the
statement "no fencing is the best approach" does not provide a property
owner to provide a low fence for the health, safety and welfare of the
homeowner's children or pets. HPC did acknowledge that fences are
appropriate. Myrin said his fence meets this criteria.
Myrin told Council neither post suggested for his fence is contemporary and
even if either were found to be contemporary, either post is compatible with
the historic house. Myrin requested Council find guideline 1.2 is met and
that guidelines 1.3 is met as well.
Councilman Semrau said it is not within Council's scope to determine
whether these criteria are met; it ~s up to HPC. Councilman Semrau said
Council's role is to decide whether there was an abuse of discretion in
applying the criteria. Worcester said Council could decide ifHPC was
wrong in applying the wrong legal standard to the application. Worcester
noted Council should not take the facts presented by the applicant before
HPC and decide the facts are something different. Councilman McCabe
noted the post the HPC approved does not meet the height limit. Ms.
Guthrie told Council the only height of a post as represented by the applicant
would meet the 42-inch criteria. HPC indicated a fence they would accept
and the applicant notes this is higher than the criteria. Height was not an
~ssue at the HPC meeting. Myrin told Council he submitted a catalog of
fence posts to HPC and they picked a certain style of post. Walt Madden,
applicant, said there was confusion at the HPC on how to select a fence post.
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Mayor Klanderud said she has read the HPC minutes and the guidelines.
Height is one consideration as is the more ornate fence post. Mayor
Klanderud said if one reviews how HPC proceeded through the fence
hearing, she finds no denial of due process and no abuse of discretion.
Mayor Klanderud said she sees no basis to do anything but affirm the
decision of the HPC. Councilman Semrau agreed it is not Council's job to
review HPC's choice of posts. It is HPC's job to know what fits the historic
district. Councilman Semrau said that issue is not up for consideration.
Councilman Semrau agreed there ~s not proof there was abuse of discretion
or denial of due process.
Councilman Paulson disagreed and noted the argument is over whether
fence posts are too historic. Councilman Paulson said this is a violation of
discretion because the rules are not being followed. Councilman Paulson
said there is no guideline that will not allow the applicant to have this
fencepost. Mayor Klanderud said changing the regulations is a separate
issue from whether HPC followed the regulations in making their
determination. Councilman Paulson said the regulations do not have a
discrete, finite rule in which to judge this fence. Councilman Paulson said
the criteria state the fence should be compatible with'the historic context and
the fence posts should have met that criteria. Councilman paulson said he
feels HPC abused its discretion, that this was too historic and subjective.
Councilman McCabe said he struggles with these technical issues; however,
that is why there are people on the HPC who have expertise in the field.
Councilman McCabe said the guidelines from the interior department make
a case for having something similar to the property but that a person with a
trained eye could separate this from an original. Councilman McCabe said
he cannot see where the HPC abused its discretion. Mayor Klanderud said
Council agrees with HPC's decision.
Myrin presented a third sheet which states, "Without first determining the
application was for a contemporary interpretation of a traditional fence, the
October 9th state memo jumped to the following concern relating to
contemporary design. The products that Stored Iron Works provided are in
many cases are identical to those that could be purchased 100 years ago and
in fact are examples of historic wrought iron fences that bear the company's
logo in Aspen". Myrin stated this was not part of the criteria in the motion.
Myrin said Council has decided that guideline 1.3 is applicable. Councilman
Semrau said all Council has decided is that HPC did not abuse its discretion.
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Mayor Klanderud pointed out no where in the HPC findings does it appear
they abused their discretion or exceeded their jurisdiction by going beyond
the guidelines. Mayor Klanderud noted it does not appear the applicant was
denied due process either. Councilman Paulson said 112 does not apply2
Councilman Paulson said this should be sent back to HPC.
Councilman Semrau moved to adopt Resolution #121, Series of 2002,
affirming the decision made by HPC; seconded by Counc!lman McCabe.
All in favor with the exception of Councilman Paulson, motion carded.
RESOLUTION #118, SERIES OF 2002 2In SupPort of'New MaroOn
Creek Bridge
Randy Ready, assistant city manager, reminded Council ar their retreat in
early December, they directed staff to draft a resolution in support of a new
Maroon Creek bridge. Ready stated the 1996 vote authorized two lanes of
traffic and rail for the entrance to Aspen, the section from Buttermilk to 7th
and Main. The 1998 Record of Decision corroborated that and opened the
possibility of two dedicated bus lanes. The right-of-way conveyance to
CDOT in August was specific'that this easement was to construct, maintain
and operate a two-lane parkway and a corridor for light rail transit system to
be constructed when the financing is available.
Ready pointed out this resolution is specific to allow construction of a new
Maroon Creek bridge and its approaches. Ready illustrated highway 82 and
6 segments, 4 of which be required for a new Maroon Creek bridge. The
resolution does not address the parcels on the Thomas/Marolt property,
which were part of the November election. The resolution does ask that the
segment from the roundabout to Tiehack road to be completed as an early
action item. Mayor Klanderud noted 12 months ago all 5 Councilmembers
agreed on supporting a new Maroon Creek bridge. Councilman Paulson has
changed his mind since last year.
Lenir Drake told Council she supports construction of a new bridge over
Maroon Creek bridge; however, she ~s concerned about the limited scope of
this resolution. Ms. Drake said she is concerned about the absence of
reference to the 2002 vote. Ms. Drake said CDOT has no money and there
seems to be no reason to make a decision on this resolution at this meeting.
Ms. Drake requested Council broaden the content of this resolution to
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request the return of the Marolt open space land to the city and also to make
improvements to the S-curvesl
Bill Stirling said this bridge is not going to collapse tomorrow. Stirling said
if the number of cars on highway 82 is reduced, a new bridge may not be
needed. Council should work on ways to reduce automobile and bus traffic.
Stirling suggested Council table this resolution for further study and
consideration. Mayor Klanderud said she is not sure for the reasons for
delay and she does not favor doing nothing.
Councilman Semrau pointed out 12 months ago this was the only thing
Council agreed on and it was perceived the community agreed on replacing
the bridge. This is one component of the entrance to Aspen that does have
to happen. Councilman Semrau stated this bridge request should be no risk
to anyone. Councilman Semrau noted Council asked City Attorney
Worcester to look into the ramifications of asking CDOT for the city land
back. Mayor Klanderud reiterated she sees no reason to wait on this bridge
issue.
Councilman Hershey moved to suspend the rules and extend the meeting to
9:45 p.m.; seconded by COunCilman McCabe. All in favOr, motion carded.
Donna Fisher said she supports what other citizens have said and takes issue
with Council stating citizens do not want anything to be done. Ms. Fisher
said this resolution is putting the cart before the horse and other issues need
to be taken care of first.
Councilman McCabe moved to adopt Resolution #118, Series of 2002;
seconded by Councilman Hershey. Everyone opposed. Motion NOT
carried.
BURLINGAME PARCEL D DESIGN CONTRACTS '
Troy Rayburn, housing department, said Council must approve $60,000 to
be dispensed $20,000 to each of 3 finalist design teams. Co~cilman
Semrau commended staff as this ProjeCt has been fast tracked and may have
a chance of getting started this spring.
Councilman Semrau moved tO approve Resolution #122, Series of 2002,
authorizing the city manager to execute 3 service agreements as outlined on
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F~'- the staff memorandum; seconded by Councilman McCabe. All in favor,
motion carried.
Councilman Hershey moved to go into executive session at 9:15 p.m.
pursuant to C.R.S. 24-6-402(4)(b), advice fi:om counsel relating to personnel
msues; seconded by Councilman McCabe. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilman McCabe moved to come out of executive session at 9:30 p.m.;
seconded by Councilman Hershey. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilman Hershey moved to adjourn at 9:30 p.m.; seconded by
Councilman Semrau. All in favor, motion carried.
City Clerk
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