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MINUTES OF MARCH 5~ 2003
Bill Dinsmoor opened the Commercial Core and Lodging Commission
meeting at 9:30 with Andrew Kole and Charles Kennedy present. Eric
Cohen and Jon Busch were absent. Excused were John Starr and Terry
Butler.
Mall Leases
The Colony - Annette represented the Colony; a diagram and written
description were provided for the mall lease. Annette asked if they could be
more than 10 feet from the edge of the building. Bill Dinsmoor replied that
the mall lease read 10 feet from the building and that they must be must be
in compliance.
MOTION: The commission agreed in favor to grant the mall lease for the
Colony for 2003.
Scott Engelman, the Colony, asked if the measurement was from the edge of
the building. Bill Dinsmoor noted that Paragraph 5a the mall lease
provisions described 10 feet from the building. Bill suggested that he call
Sarah Oates for further clarification and he could obtain a copy of the
language from the city clerks office.
Red Onion - David Walbert, owner of the Red Onion, was present.
MOTION: The commission was in favor of granting the mall lease for the
Red Onion for 2003.
Bill talked about the alfresco dining in relation to the outside seating for the
Red Onion. Kathryn Koch explained that Don Pace, the head of the liquor
enforcement for the state of Colorado, said no. Andrew said that he did not
hear no, he heard that it might be possible based upon the way the law read;
a plastic fence could meet the continuous requirement. Kathryn said that
she didn't know what the liabilities were but there were problems.
Pacifica - Ed Curtindale asked if the mall lease was 10 feet from building
edge and had questions on the sign. Bill Dinsmoor explained that Sarah
Oates handled lighting and signs. Bill noted that everything was to be
contained inside the fence including the edges of umbrellas and tables.
Bill encouraged him to be 10 feet from the building again. Ed Curtindale
will come before CCLC again for lease approval. Ed Curtindale said that he
could increase the bus~ness if he were allowed to expand his outside seating
area.
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The Grottos - Jackie Lothian reported that the Grottos paid their
outstanding monies due from the 2002 mall lease and that the business was
being purchased.
Trash
Ed Sadler explained the position of the city on trash compactors and that
City Council would hold a public hearing at the earliest on May 12, 2003.
Bill spoke about the memo dated Feb 12, 2003 to Mayor& Council.
Nick Lebby stated that the compactors had a "big ooze" that came out of the
in the alley on Hopkins between Mill and Monarch. Bill said that Cache
Cache compactor doesn't meet the city specs. Nick Lebby said that the
same issues were brought up 5 years ago and that they were not notified of
this last public meeting with the city council.
Ed said that there was a request for Council second reading to be in June
because they will be out of town in May. Ed spoke of the visuals of maps
to see where the locations o£the compactors. Lee Cassin and Nick Adeh
were present.
Bill asked if compactors provide efficiencies over dumpsters. Bill said that
there were components of enforcement that have been lost without Brian
Flynn.
Jim representing Waste Management was present and spoke about a 30%,
broad statement, of reduction of trash with compactors. One yard of trash
will equal three yards ofuncompacted trash; 10 dumpsters = one compactor
but the compactor takes more space.
Charles asked if the effiCiencies haVe improved and asked what the response
time was for repair or replacement.
Jim replied that compactors were mechanical and mechanical things break;
they cost about $30,000.00 each. charles asked if any other cities had a
compactor program. Jim responded that Breckenridge had several and
Terry Perkins was the director of public works in Breckenridge. Jim said
that every other month each one would break.
Waste management brought in roll offs when the compactor broke behind
the Red Onion.
Bill spoke about Carl Bergmans' problems. Ed Sadler said that an answer
was needed for this compactor issue so this would be reviewed; engineering
will review the width of the alleys and identify potential sites for
compactors. Jim explained the key pads and the problems with the pads in
relation to the charge for the trash.
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Lee Cassin asked of there was an intention to apply this to recycling. Bill
answered no, there was no vision on recycling. Lee said that if the recycling
containers were not conveniently located then the compactor would not
work. Bill said that they would like to have the recycle containers but it
changes from alley to alley with their use. Lee asked how CCLC envisioned
preventing compactors from being not up to standards.
Nick Lebby asked about the accountability of his trash behind his building
and that needed to be addressed; it came down to accountability. Lee
mentioned that the n'ash enforcement personnel had been cut again. Nick
Lebby said that the businesses or landlords should police their own
establishments because it was their responsibility. Bill agreed that Nick was
correct but it wasn't the reality anymore.
Jim from Waste Management Stated that he would offer assistance in
drawing up plans.
Saturday Market
Andrew spoke about the petitions for the Saturday Market and that he had a
fight with Hanna Pevny. Andrew said that he was not going to do the
petitions.
Bill talked about the market expansion for city council on Monday night
(3/10/03). Charles noted that he spoke to Rob at The Cooking School about
sponsoring the Cooking Demonstrations for the Saturday Market. Charles
said that the cooking school stated that they did not have ;he time to do it.
Andrew also spoke to Rob. (A letter was to have been included in the
record that was sent to the mayor).
Charles felt that the CCLC should present the issues to the public in the
form of letters to the editor. Andrew said that the Daily News would place a
column in the newspaper from the CCLC with issues either monthly or bi-
monthly. CCLC summarized this to a possible Featured Monthly Colunm.
CCLC discussed a presentation to city council for Monday night. Bill said
that they explored opportunities last year and he wants to go forward with
more for this coming year but only for expansion of the market.
There was discussion of the perceptions of ACRA, Antique Fair and
Saturday Market.
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Bill asked Mark Bressner to keep attending the meetings.
Charles asked for direction on the design for the Saturday Market logo for
the bags; the commission agreed to 4 visuals items and to have 2 produce
and 1 craft.
Meeting adjourned at 10:35 a.m.
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Lothian, Deputy City Clerk