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MINUTES OF JULY 2~ 2003
Chairperson, Bill Dinsmoor called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Eric Cohen, Charles Kennedy, Andrew Kole,
John Starr and Ex officio, Mark Breslin. Excused were Terry Butler, and
Jon Busch.
SIGN CODE
Sarah Oates said ACRA came to the Special Events committee regarding
leniency of special event signs. The ACRA was to give the Special Event
committee comments by April 15th and they have not done so.
Sarah said sponsorships need ways to do advertising. Sarah said the
merchants also need some changes regarding their signs. Sarah said the
Saturday market couldn't have a banner unless a vending agreement was
approved by council.
John said he has some issues with signage. He would be more lenient with
special events. Signage in the public areas he would be much more
restrictive about.
CCLC said they are willing to help with the signage code revisions.
Bill said we need to have someone walking around on Friday to make
businesses aware of the laws etc. with signage and that is a very healthy
position for the city to take. John said having someone on the mall is pro-
active.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Shea Singer said people enjoy the large chairs out in front of Nori's even if
they are in the mall. Shea asked how that information gets out to
businesses, is there a flyer? Andrew said the ACRA shoUld get involved
with this.
Bill said staff is to take care of violations in the public right-of-way.
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Shea asked how she can get the information to local businesses. Bill said
the only time anything gets done is when small amounts of individuals put
enormous time m to get something through.
John said the CCLC tried to get a flea market ~j-pe event in Aspen. and the
merchants were totally against it. CCLC is open to listening to any ideas.
WINERY
The board discussed the two wine~ applicants. Kevin Doyle buys his
grapes wherever he can get them and has bottled wine ready to sell. The
Hanson's have organic grapes grown in Hotkiss. Thc farmers market t~ies
not to have competh~g venues.
Lance Hanson said the labeling and processing may take some time but they
do not have bottled wine vet. They are working with the state.
Eric pointed out that Leto is gone and we don't have to grandfather others.
Lance said what sets us apart is that we are farmers. Good selection needs
to occur.
John said he is ready to defer to Jack's decision which was handed out to
the CCLC. Andrew said there are all different kinds of wine. He would
have no problem with two vendors.
The CCLC requested that Kevin Doyle come to the next meeting to discuss
his vending product to find out if he fits under the criteria. Staffwill get the
criteria from Jack for the next meeting.
MOTION: Andrew moved that based on qualifying under the criteria that
we recommend to Jack that both wine parties be accepted into the market
place; second by Eric. Motion carried 3-2.
Yes, Charles, Andrew, Eric
No: Bill and John
JAY'S VALET SERVICE
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Jay Mills, owner stated he wishes to establishing a relationship with the
CCLC and the City of Aspen to provide a service that is long term. He
started the valet service in 1985.
David said he has been working with Jay for two years. Many employees
have 18 months experience working in Aspen.
Ken Mortel said they want to provide a quality service to the City. They
intend to make it better for the City. Communication will make the
difference.
Jay said flexibility is important. We are here to help out. We are willing to
go where the City wants us to go. We are full time and focus our efforts on
valet parking. We want the business for years to come and you will see a
change for the better.
John said over the years other areas were recommended to us as valet
parking and did Jay have any suggestions. The concern of the City is where
do the cars go.
Jay said near the gondola would be a suggestion for another spot.
Bill said the concern is whether this is worth all the headaches. If this does
make sense should we consider providing the service to other places than
the Caribou Club.
Andrew said an onerous penalty needs to be ~ncorporated into the contract if
cars are not getting to the garage.
Jay said we are doing this service seven days a week and start at 6:00 p.m.
Staffing is crucial. The Maroon Creek Club has chosen us and we have
been there for four years.
Eric asked Jay if they could change the hours and Jay said they are very
flexible.
VALLEY VALLET
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Brian Wexler, owner said he has owned the company since 1995. Each year
they learn more. He is out there most of the time to make sure the business
works. Since 1995 they do not hire anyone under 21. He is an attorney by
trade. He is a Colorado operation and they are fully insured.
Brian said we are the best company for the job. The people we serve are the
people we live w/th. All money goes back to the community. His
competitor is from Denver. He now has another business, a sports store in
Snowmass. "Sidewinder" stores keep his employees employed all year
round.
His other business "Quality table games" contributed to the Silver Lining
Ranch game room. The valet would work on Friday, Saturday and holidays.
The key to the operation ~s safety.
Eric said the hours stated are 6:00 to one. Brian said sometimes they go to
two and three depending.
Charles asked what the two biggest problems are. Brian said the customer
that pulls his car in sideways. It is eas~er to jump in the car and correct the
traffic build-ups. The second problem is customers not coming back for
their cars.
Eric said if there is another location would that be acceptable. Brian said
where we are currently is the best. There was talk about where the Hard
Rock existed. The Little Nell pullout was also suggested.
Brian said they serve 70 % of the Caribou members.
Bill asked what the difficult problems are with the parking department and
city staff. Brian said he gets calls that they are in the community bank
parking lot. For clarification if cars got parked at the community bank the
city still gets the money.
Bill said if it does happen the penalty will be so onerous it won't happen.
Brian said he would accept a $2,000. penalty but not $10,000 because that
particular employee can get another job anywhere.
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Tim Ware, Parking Director said ever since we have had valet parking we
have yet found someone that abides by the rules completely. There are
always problems with valets. Tim said Jay's conducts numerous illegal uses
of public right-of-way for valet parking.
Blake said his concern is that the numbers don't jive.
Tim Ware said we are not in this for the money, it is to get the cars off the
street.
Bill said we could say no valet parking at all.
Contract discussion in general.
The contract is for three years only and should not be a rolling contract.
Andrew said handing off the business br sub-leasing should not be allowed
and added to the contract. A $2,500 performance bond should be added.
Multiple violations
Bill said he would stick with the incumbent.
Tim said he could go with either valet.
MOTION: John move subject ro a fixed term contract with an appropriate
bond that the incumbent be offered the contract. Contract to be.for three
years. 5-0.
Eric recused himself.
T-Ray Becker singer and song writer. There are lack of venues in this town.
He asked for an explanation of what is going on at the market regarding
musicians.
Andrew said the music students are only here until August.
Maggie suggested incorporating the music students and T-Ray Becker. The
music students like the park.
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Andrew said he would like to keep the music students for 6 weeks and after
it gets slower have T-Ray and others come in.
Bill suggested having T-Ray perform when nothing is going on in the park.
The board will look at the situation next Saturday.
Andrew recused himself.
Promoting Aspen
Bill said we need to create a budget to the ACRA to go forward with events
in Sept. The fund has around $20,000.
Susan Bilenker, Saturday Market vendor said we need to take what is
happening in September and market it. The idea is the Aspen Weekend.
Sales at different stores would be listed. Provide a unifying package like
Food & Wine when they get here.
John said he is ready to support the concept and idea.
Dale Pass, owner of the Limelite Lodge said the Gems of Aspen are willing
to work with the CCLC regarding package deals for lodging.
A budget will be discussed at the next meeting.
MOTION: Bill moved to adjourn; second by John. All in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned at 11:15 a.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk