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Chairperson Sara Garton called the meeting to order at 4:30p.m. present were
Jasmine Tygre, Roger Hunt, Steve Buettow and Timothy Mooney. Excused were
Robert Blaich and Marta Chaikovska.
STAFF COMMENTS
Isis Theatre Insubstantial Amendment
Dave Michaelson, Staff, stated that the Isis Theatre would like to amend its recent
special approval for renovation, expansion and the GMQS exemption to increase
the number of theatres from four theatres to five and reconfigure the seating.
Michaelson said that the only change will be the FAR, from 1.81:1 to 1.82:1. Staff
considers this an insubstantial amendment.
Sunny Vann, public, commented that the reconfigured seating will be more like an
auditorium and the lobby has been improved to allow more holding capacity and
circulation through the theatre.
Garton inquired about the impact of traffic and parking by adding one more
theatre.
Vann responded that impact associated with the theatre being completely full was
discussed with Staff and Council, the applicant has agreed to discuss incentives to
encourage the use of the parking garage and encourage mass transit.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Hunt commented that if there was a full house every night, it may spread out the
flow of people because the times would be spread out another fifth.
Michaelson stated that the larger theatre will remain for special events. Vann
responded that other than the reconfiguration of the seating, the two larger theatres
upstairs remain intact.
Garton stated that the present Isis holds 350 and the Wheeler holds 375. Garton
clarified that Staff would like an approval from P&Z, and that the insubstantial
amendment would be Staff' s call.
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MOTION: Hunt moved that the reconfiguration as represented
appears to be an insubstantial modification of the original
approval and recommend that Staff continue. Seconded by
Tygre. All in favor, motion carries.
Mooney stated that after the worksession on the effectiveness of the ADU program
he did not feel confident that the program is accomplishing what was intended.
Mooney said that he did not feel satisfied with P&Z's ability to administrate the
ADU's.
Garton responded that all the Commissioners were concerned however, it is a City
ordinance and the board must hear any project that falls under a City ordinance.
Mooney stated that he would like the Council to consider a suspension or a time
period to complete the survey of the ADU' s.
David Hoefer, Assistant City Attorney stated that if the P&Z was interested in
sending a message to Council, he recommends getting on the agenda for the next
Council meeting so Staff can address the issue.
Tygre agreed with Mooney's concern that without the essential information for
making decisions the Commission is making decisions blind. Tygre also stated
that the sense of urgency Mooney brings forth is important.
MOTION: Mooney moved to put the ADU study on the next
P&Z agenda with new/additional information from Staff showing
that the intent of the ADU program is being complied with.
Seconded by Buettow. All in favor, motion carries.
Michaelson responded that George Krawzoff did finish the ADU study and tried to
trace the 30 unaccounted for and Staff could respond at the April 2, 1996.
Buettow asked for an update on the insubstantial amendment for 204 E. Durant
project.
Stan Clausen, Director of Community Development responded that the project was
signed off as an insubstantial amendment.
STAFF COMMENTS
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Amy ^midon, Staff noted that 616 W. Main St. also needed P&Z's
recommendation on the Landmark Designation.
There were no public comments on items not on the agenda.
MOTION: Hunt moved to adopt the minutes of March 5, 1996.
Seconded by Tygre. All in favor, motion carries.
918 E. Cooper
Garton asked for proof of notice, the applicant did not have notice. John Davis,
applicant, stated that proof of notice was provided at the HPC meeting in February.
Notice was provided by Staff on March 22, 1996.
Michaelson stated that this is an application for conditional use review for three (3)
ADU's. The lot is 6000 sq.fl and the split was approved in 1994. The approval
required compliance with ord. 1. Lots M and N have the duplexes and require one
600 sq.fl. ADU, lots O & P each require an ADU of 300 sq.fl. Michaelson also
stated that Housing has reviewed both lots M and N, however they have not
reviewed lot O. Staff recommends approval of all three (3) ADU's with
conditions.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Tygre asked if the ADU's were accessed through the main house.
Michaelson responded that Housing prefers that the ADU's have a separate,
independent access. In the survey, Staff dealt with the issue of ADU's intergrating
into the structure rather than serving as an independent living unit.
Garton asked how the applicant would deal with the shared window well between
the ADU' s.
Davis responded that obstructed glass could be used.
Buettow asked if the applicant would live in one of the units or sell them.
Davis answered that they are all free market units and will be sold.
Garton asked Davis if he felt comfortable with the conditions of approval,
especially condition 9 dealing with the shared window well.
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Davis stated that he would ad&ess the window.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Don Crawford, public, representing the Villager Townhouses stated that there is
not enough adequate parking and respectfully request that parking be required
onsite rather than on the street.
Garton responded that parking for an ADU, is a call by the P&Z Commission
depending on the neighborhood.
Amy Amidon, Staff replied that two parking spaces per unit are required not one
space per bedroom, and there are two spaces for every unit. An ADU does not
require parking if it is a studio or a one bedroom.
Susan Welsh, public, stated that she agreed with Mr. Crawford noting that more
people are in ADU's than in vacant homes, thus creating more problems with
parking.
Michaelson responded that one out of four are occupied by caretakers while no one
is home, so if there is off street parking they use it and the parking standards were
loosened to encourage ADU' s.
Tygre asked why in mitigation the ADU is deed restricted as a resident occupied
unit and not restricted to a particular income category.
Michaelson responded that if it is rented it should be an RO unit, the person has to
work in Pitkin County.
Mooney asked if ordinance 1 says an ADU is mitigation in lieu of cash in lieu.
Michaelson responded that there are four qualifications for duplex exemption; 1)
provide one free market dwelling unit, 2) one deed restricted RO with the
minimum floor area of 1500 sq.ft., 3) provide two free market dwelling unit and
one ADU with a minimum area of 600 sq.ft., 4) provide two deed restricted RO
units, or pay the applicable affordable housing impact fee.
David Hoefer, Assistant City Attorney, commented that the proof of notice issue
should be discussed.
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Amidon responded that the applicant mailed and posted the signs for all the public
hearings on one notice, that notice was submitted at the Historic Preservation
Commission review.
Hoefer, stated that it would be appropriate to vote with the condition that the City
Attorney's office verify for the Commission that notice was proper. Condition 10,
proof of notice be verified by the City Attorneys office prior to or at the next
Aspen Planning and Zoning meeting.
MOTION: Hunt moved to table the Conditional Use review for
three ADU's at lots M, N, O and P block 117, Philips/Gordon Lot
Split for 918 E. Cooper, to allow the developer and the
Community Development to review the parking situation, window
well design, door separation issues, verification of ADU access and
snow shedding issues to the next regular Planning & Zoning
meeting April 2, 1996. Seconded by Mooney. All in favor, motion
carries.
616 W. Main
Landmark Designation and Conditional Use Review
Garton asked for proof of notice. Amidon responded that notice was provided at
the January 16, 1996 meeting.
STAFF COMMENTS
Amidon, Staff stated that Staff and HPC recommend the approval of Landmark
Designation of 616 W. Main St., finding that standards B) dealing with
architectural importance and E) community character, are met. The house was
built around 1891, and is a typical example of a cross gabled miners cottage.
Garton asked for public comments, there were none.
MOTION: Hunt moved to recommend Landmark Designation at
616 W. Main St., Lot N, Block 24, finding that the Landmark
Designation standards B and E are met. Seconded by Tygre.
Buettow absent from vote. All in favor, motion carries.
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Amidon stated that the next review is a Conditional Use for an ADU, the applicant
is voluntarily converting an existing historic barn into an ADU. The ADU is above
grade and HPC has reviewed the changes to the building and approved them. Staff
recommends approval of the proposed ADU with conditions.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Buettow asked for the applicants assurance that the ADU would be used and rented
out to a local resident.
Jeffrey Aaronson, public, applicant stated this is voluntary and that is his intention.
Garton asked for public comments', there were none.
MOTION: Tygre moved to approve the Conditional Use for an
ADU at 616 W. Main St., with the following conditions:
1) Prior to the issuance of any building permits, the applicant
shall comply with the following:
A. The owner shall submit the appropriate deed
restrictions to the Aspen/Pitkin County Housing
Office for approval. Upon approval of the deed
restrictions by the Housing Office, the applicant shall
record the deed restrictions with the Pitkin County
Clerk and Recorders Office with proof of recordation
to the Planning Department. The deed restriction
shall state that the accessory units meets the housing
guidelines for such units, meets the definition of
Resident Occupied Unit, and if rented, shall be
rented for a period of six months or longer; and
B. Kitchen plans shall be verified by the Housing Office
to ensure compliance with specifications for kitchens
in ADUs.
C. The applicant must verify that the unit is no more
than 700 sq.ft, of net livable space.
2) The ADU shall be clearly identified as a separate dwelling
Unit on building permit plans and shall comply with U.B.C.
35 sound attenuation requirements.
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3) Prior to issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy, the
Planning Department shall inspect the unit to ensure
compliance with the conditions of approval.
4) All new surface utility needs and pedestals must be installed
on-site.
5) The applicant shall consult the City Engineer for design
considerations of development within public rights-of-way,
and the Parks Department for vegetation species, and shall
obtain permits for any work or development, including
landscaping, within public rights-of-way from the City
Streets Department.
6) All materials representations made by the applicant in the
application and during public meetings with the Planning
and Zoning Commission shall be adhered to and
considered conditions of approval, unless otherwise
amended by other conditions.
Seconded by Hunt. All in favor, motion carries.
Aspen Mountain
Subdivision/PUD Lots 3 and 5
STAFF COMMENTS
Michaelson stated that the applicant has requested and Staff supports giving them
an opportunity to make an overall presentation regarding their plans for lots 3 and
5. The intent, from Staffs perspective, is that P&Z can then direct Staff to go into
detail and provide a memorandum for the next public hearing. Michaelson noted
that Staff does have significant concern with the Top of Mill sight, as recently as
1985 a plan for that parcel was denied by P&Z based on Geo-technical reasons
including the existence of mine tailings and drainage issues. Staff has requested
from the applicant a copy of that Geotech report. Staff suggests reviewing the
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Grand Aspen site separate from Top of Mill site for two reasons; 1) questions of
Geology and 2) they are two very different projects. Michaelson stated that the
project on Top of Mill is lower density, most of the issues deal with the holding
capacity of the property. The Grand Aspen site is more of an urban design issue
and use within the structure. Staff recommends the Aspen Mountain PUD be
continued to next public hearing.
Proof of notice provided.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
John Sarpa, public, representing applicant stated that he hoped to give an overview
of what the project is all about. Sarpa went through a brief history; in 1983, John
Roberts purchased approximately 12 acres of land outlined in 5 lots. Lot 1
eventually became the Ritz-Carlton, lot 5 became the Grand Aspen Hotel, lots 2-4
were residential. Lot 3 refers to Top of Mill. In May of 1985 the first Aspen
Mountain PUD was approved, it consisted primarily of a hotel complex to be no
more than 447 hotel units. In addition to the hotel units, Roberts had approval for
54 residential units. Thirty three residential units approved on Top of Mill had
conceptual approval. Roberts foreclosed, Savanah purchased all of this as well as
some other parcels in August of 1987. In October of 1988, Savanah received
approval of the first amendment to the Roberts PUD reducing the number of hotel
units to 342, 292 rooms on the Ritz site and 50 units on the Grand Aspen site. The
residential stayed the same, with some architectural changes and a reduction in
bedrooms in Galena Place. The Grand Aspen site was approved for up to 150,000
sq.ft, of FAR and Savanah reduced that to no more than 115,000 sq.ft, of FAR.
Sarpa stated that Savanah agreed to take part of lot 5 to build and maintain an ice
rink, as well as extensive infrastructure and utility improvements and to provide
employee housing for 60% of full time equivalents, in exchange for permission to
build the Ritz.
Bob Hughes, public, Counsel for Savanah, said that 47 was the number bargained
for in exchange for downsizing the Ritz-Carlton, it is not to be lightly dismissed.
Garton asked if vested rights were established for the original PUD.
Sunny Vann, public, representing applicant, responded that vested rights were
established for components of the PUD, there are no vested rights for parcel 5 and
the conceptual approval on parcel 3 has expired. Vann stated that what is left on
lot 5 is approximately 86,600 sq.ft, about 2 acres, and includes portions of the
Dean Street right-of-way. A portion on lot 5 has been vacated by the City in
connection with the original approval of the Roberts application. It exists today as
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a street but is intended to be included as part of lot 5 for development purposes.
Vann stated that lot 5 is relatively fiat with a few scattered evergreens, aspen trees
and some ornamental shrubs which surrounded the existing building. The majority
of the site is zoned Lodge, Tourist/Residential, mandatory planned unit
development. A portion of the Dean St. right-of-way remains zoned CL, the City
of Aspen code does not allow Savanah to use the vacated right-of-way for density
or FAR purposes. Vann noted that man made improvements on the site include the
Grand Aspen Hotel and a subgrade parking garage. Late last year, City Council
approved an extension on the demolition deadline on the Grand Aspen Hotel, it is
required to cease operation in October of 1998. Vann stated that a trail easement
granted across the rear of lot 5, also in connection with the Roberts approval,
intended to link the Galena Place condominiums with the Ritz-Carlton hotel. Vann
said the Top of Mill site has approximately 5 1/2 acres, and is zoned LTR/PUD,
R15/PUD, C-Conservation, the boundary between the R15 and C zone is the 8040
Greenline runs through the middle of the site. The lower portion of the Top of Mill
site predominately zoned LTR, rises along Mill St. up to the area presently
occupied by the Aspen Ski Club building, the upper portion of the site sits at the
base of the mountain and is zoned R15 and C. Vann noted that the vegetation on
this site contains numerous small aspen trees, a few larger evergreens and a variety
of shrubs and bushes. Man made improvements to the site include the Aspen
Valley Ski Club building, an existing duplex and the Ski Company World Cup
finish shack. Vann stated that a requirement of the PUD agreement is to construct
a new facility on a site for the Ski Club or make a cash-in-lieu contribution that
would be the equivalent of the construction cost. Vann stated that is the intent as
part of this PUD application. Vann noted that the
numerous utility improvements made on Galena and Mill St., were sized to
accommodate, at the time, the development which had been previously approved in
the Roberts application and including the parameters of the revised PUD
agreement for Savanah, in other words, the 47 residential units and 50 lodge units
on lot 5. Vann stated that the development scenario is based on 47 units between
lots 3 & 5, and approval for 50 lodge units that are not included in this proposal.
Another parameter in the PUD agreement is that the total building on lot 5 was not
to exceed 115,000 sq.ft, of FAR, it also entitled Savanah to use the open space on
lot 6 as a credit against the development to occur on lot 5, recognizing the
contribution of the ice rink and park. Vann said that the development program
calls for 30 multi-family units on lot 5, and 17 units on lot 3. (6 multi-family, 6
duplexes and 5 single family homes) These units are all exempt from Growth
Management, based on three construction credits that were previously agreed to
and awarded to Savanah. Vann stated that the basic concept is to reduce density on
lots 3 and 5 as the project moves up Mill St. Parking for the 30 units is provided in
a subgrade parking garage. Vann said that Savanah proposes to subdivide lot 3
into eight parcels and two open space parcels. Parcel one will contain 6 multi-
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family units and two triplex structures, parcel 2 will contain two duplex structures,
parcel three contains one duplex structure, and the remaining parcels contain five
single family residences.
Garton asked about the movement of the conservation boundaries.
Vann responded that the applicant is not proposing to move that boundary. There
is no prohibition against developing in the C zone, but it does have different
requirements.
Bill Poss, public, representing applicant, said there are two basic planning concepts
1) is to vary density, 2) is to incorporate the City's new design guidelines. Poss
said that by installing the parking garage it will allow the clean-up of the street
scene and allow the buildings to relate to the street. The applicant chose to leave
Dean St. and create a pedestrian mall that will link the Ritz to the Gondola
building. There has been discussion concerning the nine dedicated parking spaces
for the ice rink, and the applicant intends to work out parking with the new garage
or the Ritz parking garage. In regards to parking, Poss said that private parking
drives accessed from the rear will allow the landscaped street scene. There will be
a two car enclosed garage for each townhouse and two cars can park on the apron.
The duplex is serviced by entry drive and on the hillside has entry drive with guest
parking offstreet. On lot 3, there will be six covered
parking spaces to service the Summit Place townhomes. Parcel two has parking
for each bedroom. Poss stated that the Aspen Mountain trail will be developed
subtly to allow skiing to continue and be accessed in the summer. Poss stated that
the applicant is attempting a Victorian influenced architecture on lot 5 and the
duplex sites will be influenced by the Alpine designs. The townhomes will be
more urban in style.
Garton inquired about the request for a variance from 28ft. to 55ft. height on Dean
St.
Poss responded that the townhouses, as they develop down, are 28 ft. The
applicant is proposing to raise the center portion to create more density in the
center giving an architectural feature as a backdrop to the ice rink. Poss stated that
by pushing the massing there will be more open space for the cross block links
proposed and the park like setting.
Mooney asked Poss to discuss the parking issue.
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Poss stated that the modified parcel on S. Mill St. will have a ramp that will drive
underneath the park, and is built so the project can be phased. Forty eight spaces
are below the Dean St. building with soft ramps because of the height. Poss also
stated that there will be a parking garage underneath the eight townhouses, three
per townhouse.
Garton asked for public comments.
Steve Falender, public, asked if there were height variances requested on the
Galena and Mill St. townhomes and what the height of those homes will be.
Vann responded that on the application the height is almost a foot over the 28 feet.
A variance in height has been requested on Galena and Mill as well, because the
detailed architectural design has not been completed. Vann stated that it is
possible to make the buildings in compliance, but technically the application
requests a variance on the center section of the Dean St. building and a one and a
half variance on the four townhouses on Galena and Mill St.
Falender asked what the grade of 33 ft. was.
Vann responded natural grade or finished grade, whichever is more restricted.
Vann said that the City's regulation prohibits the manipulation of a grade to
artificially increase the height.
Jack Crawford, public stated that parking provided is per the code but there is no
provision made for guest parking. Crawford said that he would like to see guest
parking considered. Crawford also stated that he agreed with a pedestrian mall on
vacated Dean St., however the 1993 approval for the PUD and the CO for the Ritz
required 9 parking spaces for the ice rink. The application states that in the event
parking is required to serve the ice rink "Savanah" will agree to provide the
replacement parking in a mutually accepted location. Crawford noted that parking
is obviously required and he felt that 9 parking spaces should be provided in the
plans for a low cost.
Doug Nehaus, public, asked if the on street parking on Mill St. will be eliminated.
Vann responded that the parking along the West of The Grand Aspen is in the
public right-of-way, there will be no loss and nothing is proposed that would
remove those spaces.
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Mooney stated that if the applicant is excavating a full parking garage underneath
the building, they must have considered how they could drop the building instead
of requesting a height variance. Mooney asked to see the evolutionary thoughts as
to what the building may have looked like and an explanation of the services such
as fire evacuation, garbage, storage, ect... Mooney asked if there would be an
elevator and what the condo regulations would require..
Poss responded that there is an elevator core as well as appropriate fire exits.
Garton stated that she was concerned about the height, the AACP addresses
pedestrian experience and Garton said she felt that walling off Aspen Mountain is
not a good pedestrian experience. Garton stated that this town is fortunate to have
the feel of the mountain coming to the base of the town.
Mooney asked if ordinance 1 applied to the single family homes.
Vann responded that they will be lots for sale, Savanah may build something, but
they are currently single family lots that will be encumbered by covenants and
restrictions.
Mooney asked if there are neighborhood or character guidelines for this section of
town.
Michaelson responded that the old neighborhood design guidelines of ordinance 35
standards.
Mooney stated that his concern is technical questions about sidewalk, curbs and
gutters, ect.., and whether it is compatible with surrounding neighborhoods.
Mooney also asked if the snowmelt and water runoff could be measured.
Vann responded that the applicants proposal includes sidewalks, curb and gutter,
street lights, ect.., and the City code states that on any parcel in the City the
historic runoff cannot be increased.
Special meetings were scheduled April 9th and the 23rd at 4:30pm for
Savanah/Aspen Mountain PUD, Lot 5.
MOTION: Hunt moved to continue the public hearing on the
Aspen Mountain Subdivision PUD, Conceptual PUD, and
Subdivision approval for lot 3 and 5 to April 9, 1996. Seconded
by Tygre. All in favor, motion carries.
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Aspen Club PUD Amendment
Parking Special Review/Conditional Use
Proof of notice provided.
Michaelson, Staff introduced several letters for the record. Michaelson said this is
a request for the Aspen Club PUD amendment, Conditional Use amendment and a
parking special review. The applicant has proposed to bring access to the club
exclusively from Ute Avenue to an area currently used for "bandit" parking. Staff
has included a summary of the zoning and all agreements related to the
development of the Aspen Club, as well as the parking arrangements that were
agreed upon in the subdivision and PUD for the "Callahan Subdivision".
Michaelson stated that when Staff met with the applicant regarding the proposal to
change the access, Staff asked for a traffic study and noted some concern with the
study. In addition, traffic engineering does not make any assumptions in terms of
pedestrian traffic, or the traffic mix on the road but does makes some assumptions
on peak periods. Michaelson said the traffic study did not deal with conditions
related to this particular street, for example, snow loading, parks, and cross
pedestrian traffic. Michaelson noted that Staff' s referral comments include sight
constraints, potential conflicts with adjacent land uses as well as the residential
character of the southern section of Ute Ave. Parks has reviewed the application
and they recognize and are very supportive of what the Aspen Club has historically
done with their landscaping, but did note that there are narrow lane widths and
sight constraints particularly in the winter. Michaelson said the economic viability
of this Club is important to anyone who has spent time in Aspen. He said the
AACP has particular emphasis on pedestrian corridors, of which Ute Ave. has
become. Michaelson said and Staff notes that in terms of off street parking the
proposal meets the PUD approval standards however, Staff questions the logic of
increasing the amount of traffic through town. Michaelson stated that P&Z
basically has three options, 1) to approve the PUD amendment to allow access to
come off of Ute and Conditional and Special reviews would also be approved, 2)
the request can be denied out right, and 3) Staff's recommendation with three
conditions, would be to deny the request as before you but to allow a certain
amount of parking behind the Aspen Club to remain.
Dick Buetra, public, applicant, stated that when the Club was initially built the
reason parking was so far from the building was twofold, 1) during the original
approval process a clubhouse/restaurant was approved for the site next to the North
side parking lot and 2) Ute Avenue was a narrow dirt road and could not carry the
1400 members. Butera noted that those were two very good reasons the lot was
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put where it was, but now those reasons have dramatically changed and the Club
feels it is proper that the parking lot of this commercial building be moved from
the residential area to the commercial area where it belongs. Butera stated that
they would like to correct what was done previously and fit then, but does not fit
now. The clubhouse restaurant lot has been rezoned residential and the Club spent
$72,000 to fix Ute Avenue into a road that has a capacity of 3000 cars a day.
Butera said that commercial parking should be next to the building, adjacent to the
Fritz Benedict parking lot. Butera said in 1982 the Club was a run down building
with one stationary bike and a racquetball court, since then he has spent millions of
dollars on the Club and has won numerous national awards and have been chosen
throughout the Club industry in America as one of the top 10 or top 5 Clubs in the
Country. Butera noted that national television tennis tournaments have brought
alot of positive attention to the community. Butera said that since opening in 1982,
they have been open everyday serving over 20% of this community, selling health
and fitness, not booze, jewelry, furs or fast food. Butera stated the Club has helped
rehabilitate several thousand elbows, knees,
shoulders and heads, and the product is health, fitness and fun. Therefore, Butera
said what affects the Aspen Club is in the community interest, it is not just in Ute
Avenues or Highway 82's interest. Butera said many more people live on
Highway 82 between town and the Club than Ute Avenue and the Club. Butera
said that 50% of the Clubs membership traffic, through which the "bandit" parking
lot has evolved, already use Ute Avenue.
Alan Richman, public, representing the applicant, stated that placing the parking
for a building of this size fairly unusual, but there were specific reasons in 1975 &
76, when the Callahan Subdivision was reviewed by P&Z and the City Council, to
put the parking where it is and it was not a mistake at that time. Richman stated
that the lot zoned for the clubhouse restaurant is one of the reasons, it was 9400
sq.ft, and obviously parking was needed for that facility because it wasn't going to
serve only those from the Callahan Subdivision, so there was parking identified for
both the club and the clubhouse restaurant. The other situation is much more
pertinent, and that is the condition of Ute Avenue in 1975 & 76. Richman said that
because there was a need for parking and because Ute Avenue clearly was not able
to handle traffic, the PUD stated that no vehicle traffic should enter the PUD from
Ute Avenue, unless vehicles are for the purpose of construction, providing
services, or dealing with emergencies of the Callahan Subdivision. Richman said
that no additional trucks or commercial vehicles are going to come on to Ute
Avenue because of this proposal, they are already there and will continue to be
there. Richman said the "bandit" parking area initially occured because of the
people who came to the Club for therapy did not use the lot on the other side of the
river, they couldn't make that walk. The Club employees began using the gravel
area along the West side of the building for parking, and finally approximately 5-6
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years ago the Club allowed members to use that parking area. Richman stated
since that time it has been fully occupied. Richman also stated that the past use is
important because as Staff has reported, the City has not received complaints from
neighbors about the traffic on Ute Ave. Richman also said that in addition to the
commercial traffic, the traffic counts that were done when compared to the
membership and visitation, tells us that at least half of the people coming to the
Club today use Ute Ave. Richman stated that the trend in both membership and
overall visitation to the Club has dropped approximately 40%, in the last eight
years.
Philip Scott, of Leigh, Scott & Cleary, Inc., representing applicant, stated that they
looked at some key intersections and did a number of hours of traffic counts along
Original at Cooper and Durant. Scott said the study was done in the third week of
January and that the level of service for those two intersections would remain
basically unchanged. Scott stated that some estimates were done as to the capacity
of the roadways in the area and their analysis indicated that Ute Ave. and Original
have a comfortable capacity of approximately 3000 cars per day. The capacity of
Highway 82 is estimated to be 6000 trips per day. Scott noted that other elements
during certain times of the year like snow stacking have an impact on narrowing of
the roadway where the capacity is somewhat reduced. He said that capacity by our
estimates, is reduced to 2100 vehicles per day. Scott said it is important to
compare the 2100 vehicles per day to the amount of traffic we expect to be
transferred from the Highway 82 access off of Crystal Lake, to the Ute Avenue
access. The study found that as many as 230 vehicle trips per day would be
expected to make that transfer, that is 115 round trips. Scott said that today the
amount of traffic on a daily basis, on Ute, is about 1250 trips, 625 round trips. He
also stated that January is one of the two busiest months of the year in terms of
activity at the Club, looking at the average month of the year, compared to January,
there is significantly less traffic, prorated it would be approximately 99 round trips.
Scott said that because of the separate bike path provided along Ute, there is a
seperation that acts as a safety buffer between vehicular traffic and the pedestrians
that use the path. Scott noted that currently there is a significant amount of
pedestrian and bicycle activity along the shoulder of Highway 82, and seperating
the traffic associated with the Club would be a benefit. Lastly, the thru traffic on
Highway 82, with the exiting and entering of the Club does not exist on the Ute
access. Scott also said that he felt the capacity of the street could accomodate the
small amount of additional traffic, and that the additional amount of traffic far out
weighs any other disbenefits that might be considered as it relates to traffic and
pedestrian safety.
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Garton asked Mr. Scott where the 1000 extra trips, after the Durant St. stop,
continuing to Ute Avenue, go. Garton stated that the traffic study shows 1480 and
then on the lower end of Ute Avenue it shows 450.
Scott replied that the 450 is the Aspen Club traffic, the 1480 less the 450. The 500
other round trips would be the residential, postman and other service activities.
Richman asked the Commission to think about what 230 additional vehicles going
either one direction or the other actually means. Richman stated that the Aspen
Club is open from 6:30am until 9:00pm, 14 hours, and if the traffic was distributed
evenly through the day, which would not be a correct thing to do, but it would be
about 15-16 cars an hour or 1 car every 4 minutes. Richman noted that the traffic
study indicates morning and evening peak usage periods, at the highest point there
could be 40 cars in an hour or 1 car every 1-2 minutes but the other 10 hours the
Club is open, it's not a car every 4 minutes, its more like 6-10 cars a minute.
Richman said he did not view this as a huge influx of new traffic in this area, and
in the Planning Staff memo it states "a "perceived" doubling of traffic" by
neighbors. Richman said the only place the numbers double is at the Club
entryway. Richman noted that there are neighbors across the Club entryway. He
also stated that the 230 vehicles is not new traffic in Aspen, it is rerouted and he
does not think that anyone who lives in this community thinks Highway 82 East of
town is a safe road and any traffic that is taken off 82 does have a benefit.
Richman noted that the Staff memo mentions that snow plowing on Ute Avenue
may not be adequate in the winter, and said if that is the case, then we believe
something should be done to correct that situation.
Mary Gleason, public stated that she has lived on Ute Avenue for 25 years and is
an Aspen Club member, but she hopes that they find some other way to funnel
20% of the community down their narrow residential road.
George Gleason, public stated that if the Club brings its membership up he felt that
number should 500 not 250. He also stated that he has complained to the police to
slow the cars down and the cars that park across the street make it difficult to back
out in the winter time.
Susan Welsch, public said she was concerned about the people who hike on Ute
trail, during the summertime dozens of people walk on Ute Avenue and do not use
the bicycle trail because it has always been a quiet street. She also stated that the
community spent extra money to improve the road, had they known the
improvement would be used against them they wouldn't have spent the extra
money.
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Gael Neeson, public stated that she too is a resident on Ute Avenue and spent the
extra money for safety of Ute Avenue. Neeson also said it would be ludicrous to
have all the cars coming from one of the world famous tennis matches on to Ute
Ave.
Nancy Rathborne, public said that she feels the people walking in the middle of
Ute Avenue should make use of the bicycle path. She stated that two of the three
years she has lived here, she has been in rehabilitation and had to use the back
entrance of the Club. Rathborne stated that it is impossible for a handicapped
person to access the club off of Hwy 82.
Caroline Davis, public said that in January Ute virtually becomes a one way street,
depending on the amount of snow, secondly the people who have accidents or
problems generally come to her house for assistance and she feels that would be
greatly increased by this access.
John Kelly, public with Oates, Hughes & Knezevich, represents several
homeowners in the area, stated that from talking with people he gets a different
version than the traffic expert, he has heard numerous people talk about accidents,
speeding, one lane because of the snow plow, ect... He said that the traffic study
did not address the winter or summer conditions and there was no mention of
safety. Kelly stated that he suggests the reality is different from the study.
Cathryn Crum, public stated that Staff did not report the letter she wrote about 10
years ago complaining about the speed and requestinq speed bumps. Crum said
the letter she received from the Planning Staff said "they don't build bumps, they
build dips" and they wouldn't do it. She said the people who the applicant says
walk on 82 do not, they walk on Ute Avenue because they want a peaceful, quiet
place so they come on Ute where it is beautiful. Crum also said she would hate to
see the horse and buggy that comes up and down Ute, interrupted by a flow of
traffic.
Michaelson responded that his statement, that Staff had not received any
complaints, was referring to anyone calling the Community Development
Department to complain about the Aspen Club being out of compliance with the
PUD, and the answer is no. Michaelson said there have been numerous calls on
Ute Avenue about speed problems, safety and snowplowing and Staff clearly
represented that in the Staff report.
Mike Otte, public, stated that he was on the Planning and Zoning Commission that
approved the PUD. Otte stated that the comment about the parking being put on
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the North side of the river because of the restaurant, is not totally true. The reason
parking was on the North side was to maintain the country character of Ute
Avenue. Otte said if the applicant who received the PUD approval had asked for
parking next to the building, he didn't think there would have been an approval, he
asked the Commission to look at the reason the PUD was approved, look at the
character of how the neighborhood was designed, it was supposed to be a country
lane.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Hunt stated that he agreed with Mr. Otte, he was on the P&Z for the original
approval of the Aspen Club and feels that the points about Ute Avenue being a
country lane are quite proper as well as his comments about the parking. Hunt also
stated that if he had been out there in the last five years he would have complained
about the parking. He said he thinks P&Z should accomodate the rehabilitation
and handicapped access to this facility. Hunt said he is not disposed to
accomodating "a lot" of employees, nor approving this plan the way it sits. Hunt
said one of the reason commercial traffic was allowed out there was to get it close
to the facility and being the type of facility it was, there wouldn't be much
commercial traffic.
Buettow said he would like the lot to facilitate the rehabilitation that goes on in the
Club to allow some handicapped parking at the present site, the "bandit" parking.
Mooney stated that he lives on Park Avenue and has lived in the same house for 20
years and now has a bus that runs by his house every fifteen minutes, but it is for
the good of the community. Mooney stated that the applicant has presented a
logical idea, a 1996 need. He also said that everyone has to realize that this town is
changing and their street is not a little country road, people have developed here
and have put a commercial core in here. Mooney said that he speaks for the people
in the community who are not here and are part of the growth. Mooney said a
formal study should be done this neighborhood and the impact of the road in this
neighborhood should be submitted. Mooney stated that maybe the City should get
involved and redesign the lighting, the streets, curb and gutter, the bike and
walking paths, make the path wide enough so that the horse can come down the
path, put a plowing schedule together, install speed bumps or even dips in a plan,
make the safety study and the corrections something that will benefit everybody.
Mooney said a traffic mitigation plan should be presented with this proposal, could
a van pick people up, dial-a-ride, or maybe a bus could facilitate commercial
developments in residential neighborhoods. He also stated that this street has
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proprietary interest to everybody, and Dick Butera is one of those people. Mooney
stated that the towns character has changed, the streets character has changed, and
we should be smart enough to make a plan so that it works for everybody and help
our neighbors understand what is necessary to live in this community now.
Mooney stated that he felt this application should come back with some questions
answered, and a formal proposal of what the needs are.
Tygre stated that she agrees there has been a change and Ute has evolved like any
other street, but unlike Park Avenue it was never a through street, it was always a
street that dead ended and lead to trails. Tygre said that the evolution of Ute
Avenue has been that it is more like a recreational street with the childrens park,
the cemetary, and the access to Ute trail. Tygre said the increased number of
pedestrians using this road is because it doesn't have much traffic, and there are
various types of recreational activities going there all the time and she feels it is a
very precious community asset. Tygre stated that as a bus user, she notices alot of
people ask to be dropped off at the Aspen Club, the availability of access through
public transportation is a really important community asset. Tygre said she did
agree with the handicap and rehab access on Ute Ave., but not employee parking.
Garton stated that the Aspen Club has changed and the rehab portion of the Club
needs to be accomodated and that she is unwilling to see employee parking in that
area. Garton said she is unwilling to see a dead end residential area change as
radically as it would change with the Aspen Club traffic.
MOTION: Hunt moved to deny the PUD amendment, conditional
use and special use as presented by the applicant for the reasons
set forth in pages 1-11 of the March 19th memorandum from
Staff, Dave Michaelson. Seconded by Buettow. Motion carries 4 -
1. Garton, Tygre, Hunt and Buettow voted yes. Mooney voted
no.
Meeting adjourned at 8:40p.m.
Amy G. Schmid, Deputy Clerk
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