HomeMy WebLinkAboutagenda.apz.joint.19980901AGENDA
JOINT MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL & THE ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING
COMMISSIONS
WORK SESSION
ASPEN MOUNTAIN PUD
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 1998
4:00-5:30 p.m.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL
AGENDA
ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 1998
(Immediately following the joint meeting)
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL
1. COMMENTS
A. Commissioners
B. Planning Staff
C. Public
II. DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
III. MINUTES (7/21/98, 8/4/98, 8/18/98)
IV. INFORMATION ITEMS
A. Housing Work Schedule, Bob Nevins
V. ADJOURN
NOTE: These times are approximate, and applicants should plan to be present approximately 1/2 hour prior to their
case time est'mated.
MEMORANDUM
TO: Mayor and City Council
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
THRU: Amy Margerum, City Manager
John Worcester, City Attorney
FROM: Stan Clauson, Community Development Directo
Mitch Haas, Planner * 41
RE: Aspen Mountain PUD (AMPUD) Work Session IV
DATE: September 1, 1998
SUMMARY: The purpose of this work session is to provide a forum for discussion
between the Planning and Zoning Commission and the City Council regarding the
development concepts being discussed by Savanah Limited Partnership for Lots 3 (Top
of Mill site) and 5 (Grand Aspen site) of the Aspen Mountain PUD.
The new proposal includes the development of a 146-unit hotel containing some 176
rooms in place of the existing Grand Aspen Hotel (Lot 5). The units would include 1-
and 2-bedroom suites, many of which would have kitchenettes. Savanah represents that
this new facility would be a family -oriented, moderately -priced, upscale hotel, but not
luxury accommodations such as the St. Regis, Little Nell, or Hotel Jerome. The hotel
would include subgrade parking and, possibly, street -level accessory commercial/retail
space along the Dean Street frontage. The lobby and drop-off would be located at the
corner of Mill and Dean Streets, while the entrance to the parking garage would likely be
accessed via Mill Street.
The revised proposal for Lot 3, the Top of Mill, changes only parcel 2, while the
remaining parcels (1 and 3-8) would remain as previously proposed. The prior proposal
submitted in January 1996 had four- free market residences (in two duplexes) containing a
combined total of sixteen bedrooms on Parcel 2 of Lot 3. The new concept places 8
affordable residences- with a total of 24 bedrooms on that parcel. As with the previous
proposal, the remaining parcels of Lot 3 would include 13 free market residences with 57
bedrooms.
Savanah has prepared a summary of the prior approvals along with a history of the
AMPUD. Staff finds this summary to be generally accurate. This summary is attached
as Exhibit A.
SPECIFIC ISSUES:.
Analysis of Physical Differences between the current proposal and the prior one.
The three following tables analyze the physical differences between the January 1996
proposal and the current proposal. These tables compare differing types of development
which are not entirely comparable. They do not compare the. proposals with existing
conditions or reasonably anticipated existing conditions (i.e., the Grand Aspen would no
longer exist, and the St. Regis plus the potential for 50 more lodge rooms represented
"existing conditions/build-out."). Nonetheless, they can aid in understanding some of the
quantitative differences between the new concept and the 1996 proposal.
TOWNHOUSE
OPTION' (A)
HOTEL
OPTION (B)
CHANGE
(B - A)
# of Free Market Units
30 townhouses
146 hotel units
-30 residential units and
+116 hotel units
# of Free Market Bedrooms
72 bedrooms
176 bedrooms
-72 residential brdms.
and +176 hotel bedrooms
# of Affordable Units 0 AH units 6 AH units +6 AH units
# of AH Bedrooms 0 AH bedrooms 9 AH bedrooms +9 AH bedrooms
Proposed Setbacks:
• Front Yard
58 feet
56 feet
-2 feet
• East Side Yard
l 6-17 feet
16 feet
even to -1 foot
• West Side Yard
17-24 feet
10 feet
-7 to -14 feet
• Rear Yard
22 feet
22 feet
no change .
Proposed Height at Ridge
42 feet
47 feet
+5 feet
Proposed Open Space:
• In Square Feet
33,830 s.f.
18,270 s.f.
-15,560 s.f.
• As Percentage of Site
39%
25% (est.)
-14% (est.)
Proposed Floor Area
96,430 s.f.
114,926 s.f.
+18,496 s.f.
# of Off -Street Parking Spaces
72 spaces
100 spaces
+28 spaces
Retail Space:
• Gross Area
0 s.f.
9,000 s.f. (est.)
+91000 s.f. (est.)
• Net Leasable
0 s.f.
7,650 s.f. (est.)
+7,650 s.f. (est.)
1996 OPTION -,
(A)
NEW OPTION
(B)
CHANGE
(B - A)
# of Free Market Units,
parcel 2 *
4 FM units
0 FM units
-4 FM units
# of Free Market Bedrooms
16 FM bedrooms
0 FM bedrooms
-16 FM bedrooms
# of Affordable Units
0 AH units
8 AH units
+8 AH units
# of AH Bedrooms
0 AH bedrooms
24 AH bedrooms
+24 AH bedrooms
Proposed Setbacks:
• Front Yard
• East Side Yard
• West Side Yard
• Rear Yard
25 feet
30 feet
15 feet
15 feet
15 feet
10 feet
10 feet
10 feet
-10 feet
-20 feet
-5 feet
-5 feet
Proposed Height at Ridge
33 feet
33 feet
no change
Proposed Floor Area
18,000 s.f.
12,600 s.f.
-5,400 s.f.
# of Off -Street Parking Spaces
8 spaces
16 spaces
+8 spaces
Free Market Units on
Remaining Parcels
13
13
no change
Floor Area on Remaining Parcels
65,600 s.f.
65,600 s.f. (est.)
no change
* = The proposed development for Lot 3, parcels 1 and 3-8 remains unchanged from the January
1996 application; thus, Table Two compares the proposals for parcel 2 only, the bottom two
lines reflect the remaining development for Lot 3.
1996>
NEW OPTION
CHANGE
PROPOSAL (A):,(B)
(B - A)
# of Free Market Units
47 FM residential
146 hotel units +
-34 FM residential
units
13 FM residential
units and +116 hotel
units
units
# of Free Market Bedrooms
145 FM bedrooms
176 hotel
+176 hotel
bedrooms and 57
bedrooms and -88
FM bedrooms
FM bedrooms
# of Affordable Units
0 AH units
14 AH units
+14 AH units
# of AH Bedrooms
0 AH bedrooms
33 AH bedrooms
+33 AH bedrooms
Proposed Floor Area
180,030 s.f.
193,126 s.f. (est.)
+1),096 s.f. (est.)
# of Off -Street Parking Spaces
118 spaces
154 spaces
+36 spaces
Retail Space:
• Gross Area
0 s.f.
9,000 s.f. (est.)
+9,000 s.f. (est.)
• Net Leasable
0 s.f.
7,650 s.f. (est.)
+7,650 s.f. (est.)
GAS Implications.
The following is staff s preliminary analysis of GMQS implications associated with the
new proposal.
I. Currently Available Lodge Unit Allotments:
• Unused Allotments From Past Years
• 1998-99 Allotments
• TOTAL AVAILABLE for 1998 GMQS
• Savanah currently has allotments for up to 50 lodge rooms and 47 residential
units
Lodge Unit Allotments have a set total cap of 253 units at full buildout. Eleven (11)
of these were used as part of the Hines Aspen Highlands development, leaving 242
remaining. The Land Use Code has a provision for Multi -Year Allotments for
"Exceptional Projects."
If the hotel proposal were to move forward, the PUD Agreement would have to be
amended in several ways, including the provisions in the Agreement allowing up to
50 lodge rooms to be developed on Lot 5, and limiting the aggregate number of lodge
rooms between Lot 1 (St. Regis site) and Lot 5 to 342 units. Lot 1 currently has 257
rooms and the potential to add up to 22 more ([257 + 22] = 2791 and [342 - 279] _
63).
II. GMQS Allotments.
Section 26.100.040, Annual Development Allotments, provides an "Impact conversion
factor of 2.5 lodge units per free market unit;" Therefore, it might be reasoned that the 34
left over allocations could be converted to tourist accommodation allocations. as follows:
34 x 2.5 = 85 tourist accommodation allocations. Note that the "Impact
conversion formula" equates to the factor that would have been used for 3-
bedroom residences in the Hines review.
The conversion formula was not specifically intended to be used to convert residential
allotments to tourist accommodation allotments. Rather, the conversion factor to be
used in determining the maximum amount of allotments available for tourist
accommodations associated with lodge expansions in 1997 and 1998.
If, however, this conversion formula were to be accepted, Savanah would not need a
multi -year allotment to develop the proposed 146 unit hotel facility. That is, they
have 50 allotments (via credit) and another 44 are available through this year's
GMQS Competition, making the potential for Savanah to have 94 tourist
accommodation allotments without asking for multi -year allocations. These 146 units
minus 94 allocations would leave a shortfall of 52 tourist accommodation allocations.
Thus, if the conversion formula were utilized and the result was found to be 85 tourist
accommodation allocations (based on 34 unused residential allocations), Savanah
would be left with more tourist accommodation allocations that it would need to
accomplish the proposed project. If this were the case, they would not need to apply
for all of the 44 available tourist accommodation allocations though the 1998 GMQS
Competition, but would have to apply for 11 allocations. If this concept were not
accepted, Savanah would have to apply for a multi -year allotment.
III. An inventory of lodge units recently converted to other uses.
A. Units lost through the LP program:
Total-71 units converted to residential
• Brass Bed Inn: 29 rooms and 70 pillows --- converted to residential
• Fireside Inn: 20 rooms and 53 pillows --- converted to residential
• Bell Mountain Lodge: 22 rooms and 51 pillows --- approved for
conversion to residential
B. Other. Conversions:
Total —over 117 rooms removed
• Alpine Lodge (LP): 11 rooms, 32 pillows --- converted to residential
• Aspen Manor: 23 rooms --- gutted and currently vacant
• Little Red Ski Haus: 11 rooms --- converted to residential
• Bavarian Inn (LP): 21 units --- converted to residential
• Copper Horse (LP): 13 units --- converted to residential
• Cortina (LP): 16 units --- converted to residential
• Northstar (LP): 22 units --- converted to residential
C. Remaining Lodges in the LP zone district:
• Aspen B & B: 3 5 units, 114 pillows --- condominiumized rentals
• Boomerang Lodge: 34 units, 101 pillows
• Christiania Lodge: 22 units, 51 pillows --- recently sold and considering
conversion to residential
• Christmas Inn: 26 units, 51 pillows
• Crestahaus Lodge (Beaumont): 29 units, 77 pillows --- has allocations for
10 additional lodge rooms (expansion)
• Hearthstone House: 18 units, 32 pillows
• Hotel Aspen: 47 units, 118 pillows --- condominiumized rentals
• Hotel Lenado : 23 . units, 3 8 pillows
• Innsbruck Inn: 31 units, 75 pillows
• Molly Gibson Lodge: 21 units, 118 pillows
• Mountain House Lodge: 16 units, 56 pillows
• St. Moritz Lodge: 20 units, 106 pillows
• Shadow Mountain Lodge: 11 units, 32 pillows --- condo-ized rentals
• Snow Queen: 7 units, 20 pillows
Impacts.
In terms of growth -related impacts, there are two perspectives from which an analysis
could depart. From the standpoint of anticipated growth, the community had valid reason
to believe the Ritz/St. Regis was the end of significant lodge growth and that the Grand
Aspen would be eliminated. From this perspective, all impacts would be growth and
there would be no "netting" out of subsequent incremental changes among small lodges.
From the point of view of actual growth, the community has more or less absorbed the
impacts of the Ritz/St. Regis Hotel with the Grand Aspen still in place. At the same time,
there has been a considerable reduction in small lodge rooms. Thus, the growth impacts
could be looked at in terms of the new proposal (Lots 3 and 5, and the Bavarian) versus
the Grand Aspen and the existing Bavarian. Either way, discussions should include
consideration of the type of growth and change that is appropriate. This should include
consideration of whether luxury condominiums or lodging units offer more to the
community in terms of sustainable value and, conversely, which impose greater impacts
on the community in terms of employee generation, traffic, etc.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
It is difficult to provide a specific set of staff recommendations for evaluating a project
which remains at this conceptual stage. However, staff has been uncomfortable with the
continuing development of very large condominiums and townhouses for second -home
owners. The area of Lot 5 would seem particularly suited for denser development of
smaller units. Staff has also been concerned with the continuing erosion of lodging units.
Some of this loss can be associated with the removal of lodges for affordable housing and
other removals have come from the Lodge Preservation program, which was specifically
developed to assist in the removal of lodging units which were in situations regarded as
no longer being economic viable. While these represent valid reasons for the loss of
lodging units, the replacement of these units in new economically -viable situations
remains an areas of staff concern.
For these reasons, staff has recommended to Savanah, and continues to recommend, the
utilization of the remaining 50 lodging credits in the redevelopment of Lot 5. Whether,
the site and the community can tolerate more than 50 units remains a factor of the quality
of the development proposal in a- specific site analysis yet to be performed. Staff has also
recommended a very limited amount of accessory commercial be included with the
lodging units in order to animate the Dean Street corridor and give closure to the Silver
Circle area. Staff has advocated the inclusion of affordable housing on Lots 3 and 5,
along with any additional required housing mitigation which might be developed off -site.
The concepts presented by Savanah are generally responsive to these recommendations.
They have, however, engendered a number of letters from abutting property owners
concerned about the scale of the development, as well as factors such as open space,
proximity to existing homes and condos, traffic, etc. Recently received letters have been
attached to this memo.
Staff does not believe at this stage that the development mix presents any insurmountable
issues with respect to local impacts. A careful analysis will be required to address the
issues raised by abutting homeowners at the time of a specific submittal from Savanah.
August 5, 1998
Tim Markalunas
130 S . Galena St.
Aspen, CO 81611�
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I feel a. response is necessary regarding your comments at the August 3, 1998 Aspen T'VItn.
PUD work session that I attended concerning the homeowner associations and the
management company I work for.
Your first comment regarding that you don't need a site visit to our neighborhood because
as you put it " I have been up there sometime in the past fifty years." does not have merit.
Without standing on the back walkway (south side) of the Fifth Ave. and peering up at the
existing cinder block house, there is no way anyone can grasp the magnitude of locating
any type of structure, whether it is affordable housing or free market, that close to the
Fifth Ave. If you have not seen the impact the new 8,000 square foot 918 S. Mill St.
duplex located directly behind Fifth Avenue `B" building has on the area, and based on
your comments you have not, I would highly recommend it.
The same is true concerning the Grand Aspen Hotel site. Which brings me to your other
disturbing comment that all the homeowner associations are concerned about is
competition with their rental programs. This is absolutely false! Obviously you have not
been listening to all the non -rental homeowners that have been at the meetings or have
any previous knowledge of the history of the past meetings with the Planning and Zoning
Commission. 45% of our managed units are non -rental units. The most vocal owners at
your meetings have been non -rental owners. I will state this as clearly as I can for you: It
is size, density, height, set backs, traffic, and noise that the Associations have concerns
about. It's not a hotel that the homeowners have a problem with. It is the size; density
and height of any proposed plan and the amount of employees needed to service a hotel
vs. a condo project. The site plan that included condos and townhomes that was
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recommended for approval by the Planning and Zoning Commission, in our opinion, was
still too high and the individual unit square footages were to large. If the condominiums
square footage was reduced, Savanah would not need a height variance to the front (north
side), the town could see all of the front of Aspen Mountain including. Franklin's Dump,
Slalom Hill and Super Eight ski runs.
Finally, as the management company for many of the associations and individual units on
Galena and Mill Streets, we would love to see something new as long as it blends in with
the neighborhood and views are not compromised. It will oniv help drive up rental rates
and resale values.
When and if you decide that a site visit is needed, I would be more than happy to escort
you around personally. I can be reached at my office.
Sincerely,
ASPEN.- LODGING COMPANY, LLC
Douglas L. Nehasil
Property Manager
cc: City Council
City Manager, Amy Margerum.
Fifth Avenue Board of Managers
Tipple Inn Board of Managers
Galena Place Board of Managers
Fasching Haus East Board of Managers
Fasching Haus West Board of Managers
Planning and Zoning Commission
Alpenblick Board of Managers
Durant Board of Managers
Aspen Mountain Board of Managers
Summit Place Board of Managers .
410 Boyd Drive
Carbondale, Colorado 81623
August 23, 1998
Mayor John Bennett
Aspen City Council
Pitkin County Planning and Zoning Commissioners
City Manager Amy Margerum
C/O City of Aspen
130 S. Galena St.
Aspen, CO 81611
Re: Grand Aspen PUD
To whom it may concern,
own unit 107 in the Fifth Avenue Condominiums and would like to share my opinions on the proposed
development around my home.
I strongly oppose all variances that are being contemplated for the Grand Aspen PUD. The height
restrictions and open space requirements are created for a purpose and I would hate to see Aspen
taken advantage.
Please keep me in mind as you determine my views and the noise, traffic, construction, and the feel of
the area in which I spend time.
understand the practice is to ask for much more than could be approved and settle for what was
desired in the first place. Then say there was a compromise.
Thank you for taking the time to read my comments.
Sincerely,
Brian Leasure
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Response By:
By Date:
For:
August 24, 1998
Mavor John Bennett
Aspen City Council
Pitkin County Planning and Zoning Commission
City Manager Amy Margerum
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My wife and I live in a condominium at 718 S. Galena St. It is not a rental unit. nor is it a "monster"
residence. In fact, the total square footage in our residence is 620 sq. ft.
Public officials frequently lament that their constituents don't trust them. The officials get frustrated
and wonder why, after .all their hard work, they are not believable. Such a case is coming to the fore
front in the Grand Aspen Savanah Limited Partnership proposal to builda 150 unit hotel between
South Mill St. and South Galena St.
The reason I make the above observation is because I thought we had a deal! When the gigantic Ritz
Hotel was built, the residents nearby backed off of their opposition on the promise that the present
Grand Aspen would be torn down and attractive townhouses, with lots of green space, would be built
which would enhance the neighborhood
Now it seems that such a promise is to be ignored in favor of building a 150 unit, street to street,
hotel with no green space whatsoever visible to the surrounding neighbors. This simply adds more
density to an otherwise over crowded neighborhood.
I do not know if any of you are aware, but the entire South side of Aspen from Lift IA to the gondola
is one large bowl. This bowl collects considerable pollution in the winter time from all the diesel
buses that park in front of hotels. This happens more with hotels that cater to large tour groups rather
than with townhouses or condominiums. In view of this, it is difficult to understand why the City
Council would even consider adding to the congestion, noise and pollution to an already over crowded
neighborhood. "
For the above reasons, and for those reasons stated in many other letters opposing the Savanah
proposal, I respectfully request you give that proposal a speedy burial and return to the townhouse
concept.
Once again,. I thought we had a deal!
Respectfully,
Philip R. Moore
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August 25, 1:998
Mayor -'ohn Bennett
130 S. galena Street
Aspen, Colorado 81611
Dear Mr. Bennett:
When 2 'ought my Aspen property your years ago n, the ?asching :taus at
747 S. Galena Street, I was delighted with my views of the Aspen and
Red Mountains. I was told at that time that the Grand Aspen :hotel
would eventually be torn down, and a mewer, smaller hotel with
surrounding townhouses would be built in its place. I have since been
looking forward to this as a way to improve our neighborhood
appearance and property value. I was aware that new proposals had
changed the site to more or a ccndomini=/townhouse concept.
I am horrified. to find out, however, that recently the Savannah
Developers have proposed a perimeter -style hotel with many times the.
original planned rooms, and with minimal setbacks. In addition, the
employee housing, which I feel is a good thing, that was "o be built
as a part of this plan at the top of Mill Street, has also been
changed and expanded. Both the height and size of the hotel and the
number and placement of em')Icyee housing will adversely affect both my
views of Aspen Mountain and Red Mountain. In addition, the
appearance,. noise, and confusion of a very -large Ritz -style hotel will
also adversely impact our entire neighborhood.
I -plead with you to walk* our neighborhood, and you will surely realize
the impact of which I speak. I strongly urge you to return to the
original proposal for this property, and negate the new proposals and
rezoning.,
I hope that you keep in mind the f eel- 04—Aspen as You co:::.der this
outrageous proposal.. ,
Since ely,
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(303) 925-2888 August 25, 1998
.The Aspen City Council
Mayor John Bennett
Pitkin County Planning and
City Manager Amy Margerum
c/o City of Aspen
130 S. Galena St.
Aspen, Co. 81611
Zoning Commissioners
RE: Savannah Properties Proposals
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Mr. & Mrs. wm. A. Powers •
2703 Veteran Heights
Colorado Springs CO 80904
Along with the many other voices you've heard from on above properties, we
would like to add our objections to parts of the Savannah plans.
As 24 year summer residents of Aspen, owning Fifth Avenue Condo 105, we are
especially disturbed by the fallowing:
1. Primarily, that any construction any nearer to our building than the
currently standing "cinder block" house would completly lock out our
apartment, and several others, from any view at all and from much
light as we do sit at a lower level. Also any parking of cars above
us would constantly flash lights into the living areas of all those
condos whose entrances face the mountain - and there are several.
We would like to suggest Savannah allow a "green belt" (park like)
area between our property line and the beginning of their
2. The Grand Aspen site is a choice piece of "downtown" property. Some-
how, putting a "moderately priced" "hotel" there seems out of context
with the rest of the area. The "enclosed" area concept would give
the community another "prison appearing" building - as many now refer
to the appearance of the Ritz/St. Regis.
Certainly the original plan for t.WL homes was more in keeping With
the area. To add more retail space facing Dean Street seems impracticle
in light of the number of available, empty store and restaurant spaces
we saw there this summr.
3. We agree with many of the other issues brought up in the letters of
others concerned.
Thank you for the time and energy and consideration you have and are giving
these problems. We -do appreciate Savannah's efforts to please the community
and hope, eventually, all will be achiev to everyone's satisfaction.
! Most sincerely,
L'�William Ames and Marvel A. Powers
August 27, 1998
The Honorable Mayor Bennett
City Of Aspen
130 S. Galena St.
Aspen, CO 81611
Re: Grand Aspen PUD
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As President of the Board for the Fasching Haus East Condominium Association and a owner
of Fasching Haus 4180 for over 25 years, I have followed the evolvement of proposed plans
and changes for the Grand Aspen parcel for the past thirteen years.
The 1996 proposal that was approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission, after
considerable time and effort, called for the replacement of the Grand Aspen Hotel with a 20
unit condominium complex fronting Dean St. and 10 townhomes, 5 each, aligning Mill and
Galena Streets. The major objection at that time was the was the height of the roof lines and
the square footage of the units. But the positives outweighed the negatives because there was
to be underground parking, adequate open space and set backs of the streets and property
lines were above the minimums.
The current proposal calls for a 150 unit hotel, higher roof lines than before, and adds
employee housing and commercial retail space. These changes would increase the population
density immensely causing concern about additional traffic, parking and noise levels.
Additionally, the open space would be reduced, and set backs drawn to minimums. The pure
aesthetics and atmosphere to the area would change from " cozy and comfortable" to
-restricted, crowded and commercial."
Please give this matter the serious attention it deserves in weighing the trade-offs when
judging this new proposal. Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
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Godfrey M. Long Jr.
President Board of Managers
Fasching Haus East Association
Murray Brooks
Alpenblick Townhouse Condominiums
710 S. Galena St.
Aspen, CC 81611
August 27, 1998
The Honorable Mayor Bennett
Amy Margerum
Aspen City Council
Planning and Zoning Commission
City Of Aspen
130 S. Galena St.
Aspen, CC 81611
Re: Grand Aspen PUD
Dear Mayor Bennett, Amy Margerum, Planning and Zoning Commissioners and the
City Council:
I am writing as a non -rental homeowner at the Alpenblick Townhomes. I am very
concerned and very opposed to Savanah's proposed change for the Grand Aspen
Hotel site from condominiums and twnhomes to a hotel and shops. My concerns are -
size, density, height, ' set backs, traffic, noise, parking and the amount of service
personnel needed to service a hotel.
I think all of the homeowners including rental owners on Galena and Mill Streets would
welcome a new look at the Grand Aspen site. As long as it blends with the
neighborhood, the views are not compromised, and roof heights are kept to relatively
low roof lines, with a 20 foot or more easement between the Alpenblick and any new
building, I would be incline to accept a project with these parameters.
I appreciate the understanding and hard work that goes with the jobs as Mayor, City
Manager, Planning and Zoning Commissioner and City Council Member and I hope
you will continue to keep the beauty of this City in mind in making your.decisions.
Thank you in advance for your kind attention.
cerely,
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Alpenblick #14
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Aspen, Co 81611
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Dear Mavor Bennett
Aspen City Council
Pitkin County Planning and Zoning Commissioners
City Manager Amy Margerum
C/o City of Aspen
130 South Galena Street
Aspen, Co 81611 27 August 1998
Re: The Grand Aspen site and Top of lM Street
The situation seems to be going from bad to worse.
I am an Alpenblick homeowner - one of the 45% in this area who don't rent out on a
regular basis - in fact this is my year round HOME. My unit is on the Mill Street side
and I am already feeling the impact of expansion to the south of me.
This summer's construction of the 918 South Mill Street duplex south, and right on top
of, Fifth Avenue "B" building are a constant aggravation. The two -minute rumbling of
what sounded like a Sherman tank slowly proceeding up Mill Street at 5.45AM one July
morning - actually a huge truck delivering something enormous and yellow to haul or
dig or whatever up there — is just one of the many annoyances we are experiencing
constantly these days — extra traffic, noise, dust, people - and this is just 8,000 square feet
of construction, not the proposed 65,600 square feet of Savanah Partnership's Lot 3 (Top
of Mill Street) proposal.
I understand that in March 97 when the Planning and Zoning Commissioners approved
Savanah Partnership's Lot 5 proposal for a 20 unit condominium project and 10
townhomes, they in fact recommended denial of the Lot 3 (Top of Mill) proposal (2
triplexes, 3 duplexes and 5 single family homes) based upon UNACCEPTABLE
DENSITY. Why then is the current Lot." proposal (16 free market bedrooms fewer but
24 affordable housing bedrooms more — ie a net increase of net 8) completely ignoring
this fact and adding an ADDITIONAL 8 BEDROOMS up there? By any reckoning this
translates to INCREASED density.
P and Z are quite right to be concerned about the density on this particular edge of town.
Over -construction on Aspen's most important commodity (Ajax Mountain and its skiing
- as well as summer mountain recreation) is absolutely insane. Also, not only does the
topography slant (without studded tires in the winter you often cannot proceed up or
down hill without sliding) but Mill and Galena Streets just simply can't take that much
more traffic with all the attendant services involved (snow removal, repairs, service
personnel, trash collection, etc).
Savanah Corporation and the City Council should address P and Z's March 97 concerns —
reduce the proposed construction up on the mountain and, if necessary, make up the
bedroom shortfall, including any mandated employee housing, down in the Dean Street
area. (Employee accommodation could very easily be at the - garden level' between the
Proposed underground parking facility and the ground floor of whatever hotel needs to be
constructed in that area).
Residents in this area and I most definitely have many concerns about the proposed
construction of yet another hotel on our doorsteps. Firstly I am but a few yards from the
St. Regis (I actually look across at it) and its 2257 bedrooms, do 1 really want another 0
or more hotel bedrooms on yet another of my four sides? We like being townhomes and
condominiums up here — not least because many of us are year round .homeowners and
it's becoming a little community which will be shattered by this explosion of hotel
rooms. Secondly, in my opinion, a recent artist's rendering of a triangular street -to -street
construction is a monstrosity. Its only mitigating factor is the somewhat improved
broken -up Dean Street fagade compared to the 1996 Dean Street rendering. In addition I
would urge that all proposed construction along Galena and dill streets MUST have
sizable set backs.
I urge all members of the City Council, the Mayor and Savanah Partnership to listen to
and consider all the above concerns — just some of many concerns which are being loudly
voiced and urgently addressed to you by others in the immediate vicinity.
When I bought my unit, being somewhat on the `outskirts' of town was a definite and
deciding factor — Fasching Haus, Fifth Avenue and a small cabin were the only buildings
between me and the whole wide empty expanse of Aspen Mountain.
Yours sincerely,
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Memorandum
To: Planning & Zoning Commission
From: Stan Clauson, Community Development Director
Date: 25 August 1998
Re: Lunch Retreat with City Council
Please save the date: Tuesday, 8 September 1998, at noon for a luncheon
retreat with City Council.
This will be an opportunity to discuss a wide range of topics. If any P&Z
members want to specifically place a topic on an advance agenda, please let
me know. The meeting will be held in Council Chambers. Please contact
Sarah Oates at 920-5441 to confirm if you will be available for the lunch
meeting with Council on 8 September.
Also, please note the following Council worksessions to which the P&Z is
cordially invited:
Tuesday, 1 September, 4 PM Worksession on Aspen Mountain PUD
(Grand Aspen and Top of Mill sites)
Tuesday, 8 September, 4 PM Worksession on S/C/I Zone District.
Please let me know if you have questions or comments for any of these
meetings.
Cc: Amy Margerum, City Manager
City Clerk
William Ames Powers
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(303) 925-2888 August 25, 1998
The Aspen City Council
Mayor John Bennett
Pitkin County Planning and
City Manager Amy Margerum
c/o City of Aspen
130 S. Galena St.
Aspen, Co. 81611
Zoning Commissioners
RE: Savannah Properties Proposals
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Along with the many other voices you've heard from on above pvoperties, we
would like to add our objections to parts of the Savannah plans.
As 24 year summer residents of Aspen, owning Fifth Avenue Condo 105, we are
especially disturbed by the following:
1. Primarily, that any construction any nearer to our building than the
currently standing "cinder block" house would completly lock out our
apartment, and several others, from any view at all and from much
light as we do sit at a lower level. Also any parking of cars above
us would constantly flash lights into the living areas of all those
condos whose entrances face the mountain - and there are several.
We would like to suggest Savannah allow a "green belt" (park like)
area between our property line and the beginning of their
2. The Grand Aspen site is a choice piece of "downtown" property. Some-
how, putting a "moderately priced" "hotel" there seems out of context
with the rest of the area. The "enclosed" area concept would give
the community another "prison appearing" building - as many now refer
to the appearance of the Ritz/St. Regis.
Certainly t�;e ^ri i n' plan for town homes was more in ;;^^r - '"' 1'
the area. To add more retail space facing Dean Street seems impracticle
in light of the number of available, empty store and restaurant spaces
we saw there this summer.
3. We agree with many of the other issues brought up in the letters of
others concerned.
Thank you for the time and energy and consideration you have and are giving
these problems. We do appreciate Savannah's efforts to please the community
and hope, eventually, all will be achiev d to everyone's satisfaction.
Most sincerely,
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HAILEY RODWELL DART
Alpenblick B 10, 747 Galena Street
Aspen, Co 81611
Tel: 970 920 3874 — Fax: 970 920 2829
Dear Mayor Bennett
Aspen City Council
Pitkin County Planning and Zoning Commissioners
City Manager Amy Margerum
C/o City of Aspen
130 South Galena Street
Aspen, Co 81611
Re: The Grand Aspen site and Top of Mill Street
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I am an Alpenblick homeowner - one of the 45% in this area who don't rent out on a
regular basis - in fact this is my year round HOME. My unit is on the Mill Street side
and I am already feeling the impact of expansion to the south of me.
This summer's construction of the 918 South Mill Street duplex south, and right on top
of, Fifth Avenue `B" building are a constant aggravation. The two -minute rumbling of
what sounded like a Sherman tank slowly proceeding up Mill Street at 5.45AM one July
morning - actually a huge truck delivering something enormous and yellow to haul or
dig or whatever up there — is just one of the many annoyances we are experiencing
constantly these days — extra traffic, noise, dust, people - and this is just 8,000 square feet
of construction, not the proposed 65,600 square feet of Savanah Partnership's Lot 3 (Top
of Mill Street) proposal.
I understand that in March 97 when the Planning and Zoning Commissioners approved
Savanah Partnership's Lot 5 proposal for a 20 unit condominium project and 10
townhomes, they in fact recommended denial of the Lot 3 (Top of Mill) proposal (2
triplexes, 3 duplexes and 5 single family homes) based upon UNACCEPTABLE
DENSITY. Why then is the current Lot 3 proposal (16 free market bedrooms fewer but
24 affordable housing bedrooms more — ie a net increase of net 8) completely ignoring
this fact and adding an ADDITIONAL 8 BEDROOMS up there? By any reckoning this
translates to INCREASED density.
P and Z are quite right to be concerned about the density on this particular edge of town.
Over -construction on Aspen's most important commodity (Ajax Mountain and its skiing
- as well as summer mountain recreation) is absolutely insane. Also, not only does the
topography slant (without studded tires in the winter you often cannot proceed up or
down hill without sliding) but Mill and Galena Streets just simply can't take that much
more traffic with all the attendant services involved (snow removal, repairs, service
personnel, trash collection, etc).
Savanah Corporation and the City Council should address P and Z's March 97 concerns —
reduce the proposed construction up on the mountain and, if necessary, make up the
bedroom shortfall, including any mandated employee housing, down in the Dean Street
area. (Employee accommodation could very easily be at the `garden level' between the
proposed underground parking facility and the ground floor of whatever hotel needs to be
constructed in that area).
Residents in this area and I most definitely have many concerns about the proposed
construction of yet another hotel on our doorsteps. Firstly I am but a few yards from the
St. Regis (I actually look across at it) and its 257 bedrooms, do I really want another 50
or more hotel bedrooms on yet another of my four sides? We like being townhomes and
condominiums up here — not least because many of us are year round homeowners and
it's becoming a little community which will be shattered by this explosion of hotel
rooms. Secondly, in my opinion, a recent artist's rendering of a triangular street -to -street
construction is a monstrosity. Its only mitigating factor is the somewhat improved
broken -up Dean Street fagade compared to the 1996 Dean Street rendering. In addition I
would urge that all proposed construction along Galena and Mill streets MUST have
sizable set backs.
I urge all members of the City Council, the Mayor and Savanah Partnership to listen to
and consider all the above concerns —just some of many concerns which are being loudly
voiced and urgently addressed to you by others in the immediate vicinity.
When I bought my unit, being somewhat on the `outskirts' of town was a definite and
deciding factor — Fasching Haus, Fifth Avenue and a small cabin were the only buildings
between me and the whole wide empty expanse of Aspen Mountain.
Yours sincerely,
Hailey Dart
Godfrey Long
1034 St. Paul Place
Cincinnati, OH 45202
August 27, 1998
The Honorable Mayor Bennett
City Of Aspen
130 S. Galena St.
Aspen, CO 81611
Re: Grand Aspen PUD
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As President of the Board for the Fasching Haus East Condominium Association and a owner
of Fasching Haus #180 for over 25 years, I have followed the evolvement of proposed plans
and changes for the Grand Aspen parcel for the past thirteen years.
The 1996 proposal that was approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission, after
considerable time and effort, called for the replacement of the Grand Aspen Hotel with a 20
unit condominium complex fronting Dean St. and 10 townhomes, 5 each, aligning Mill and
Galena Streets. The major objection at that time was the was the height of the roof lines and
the square footage of the units. But the positives outweighed the negatives because there was
to be underground parking, adequate open space and set backs of the streets and property
lines were above the minimums.
The current proposal calls for a 150 unit hotel, higher roof lines than before, and adds
employee housing and commercial retail space. These changes would increase the population
density immensely causing concern about additional traffic, parking and noise levels.
Additionally, the open space would be reduced, and set backs drawn to minimums. The pure
aesthetics and atmosphere to the area would change from " cozy and comfortable" to
'trestricted, crowded and commercial."
Please give this matter the serious attention it deserves in weighing the trade-offs when
judging this new proposal. Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
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Godfrey M. Long Jr.
President Board of Managers
Fasching Haus East Association