HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.20000620ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION JUNE 20. 2000
Bob Blaich opened the regular meeting at 4:30 p.m. with Steven Buettow, Roger
Haneman, Roger Hunt, Tim Mooney, Jasmine Tygre, Ron Erickson and Charles
Vresilovic were present. City staff in attendance: David Hoefer, John Worcester,
City Attorneys, Ed Sadler, Asset Manager; Mary Roberts,'Lee Novak, Housing;
Chris Bendon, Joyce Ohlson, Julie Arm Woods, Community Development; Tim
Anderson, Recreation; Kathryn Koch, City Clerk.
COMMISSIONER, STAFF & PUBLIC COMMENTS
Roger~ Haneman said that the ballots for judging Aspen Mass were submitted
yesterday; there would be another meeting on Friday.
Ron Erickson noted that the duplex driveway, near the Fifth Avenue Condos on
North Mill Street, right below the Top of the South of Mill Project, was very steep
and narrow.
Erickson questioned the height of the Bell Mountain Townhouses. Joyce Ohlson
replied that Sarah Oates checked the height and that Bell Mountain through the
PUD process was granted an additional 3 feet above the allowed height in that
zone district to a 25-£oot height limitation. Ohlson said they were allowed 28-feet;
the timbers were allowed to project up to 38-feet.
Ron Erickson and Bob Blaich stated that they were pleased with the DEPP
progress and complimented Ed Sadler for his efforts.
ELECTION OF A NEW CHAIRPERSON
MOTION: Ron Erickson moved to retain the existing officers for
another year, Robert Blaich, chairperson and Jasmine Tygre, Vice-chain
Roger Hunt second. APPROVED 7-0.
David Hoefer noted that the City ordinance required a vote every year. Ron
Erickson complimented Bob Blaich on his efforts.
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
None.
PUBLIC HEAR1NG:
VARIOUS MINOR CODE AMENDMENTS
Chris Bendon noted that this would be re-noticed for continuation to July 18th' Bob
Blaich opened the public hearing on code amendments.
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MOTION: Roger Hunt moved to continue the public hearing for the
various Code Amendments to July 18, 2000. Jasmine Tygre second.
APPROVED 7-0.
PUBLIC HEARING:
TRUSCOTT FINAL PUD
$oyce Ohlson said that this was not really a public hearing on Truscott tonight but
rather an overview. David Hoefer stated that it was noticed as a public hearing, sO
it was legally a public hearing. Hoefer stated the intention was to provide the
information tonight. The notice met the jurisdictional requirements for the
commission to proceed.
Chris Bendon distributed the overview materials and noted the revieW was
scheduled for July 11th. He asked the commission to provide feedback on the
significant issues for staff. Bendon also submitted the traffic report.
Laura Kirk, DHM, provided the overview with comments and recommendations.
She said the design included a signalized intersection with a left-hand turn lane
into Truscott. Kirk stated there was a proposed pedestrian underpass to create safer
movement into and through the sites from the bus stops along with a bike
underpass to connect with the regional bike path.
Kirk noted the internal portion of the project was divided into recreational
components and housing components. The recreational component includes 6
Tennis Courts (5 at grade and 1 slightly depressed clay courts with the best
playable surfaces for long-term maintenance). The Pro Shop was the next
component with an attached delivery area, locker rooms, storage facility and
Nordic activity work space. There would be a cart storage area, which also
provides a service and wash area for the carts. Kirk said the recreational parking
area would include 133 spaces, currently there were 144 spaces.
Kirk said that for the housing overview they tried to create a balance between the
livability, density, parking close to each unit, and meeting the owner's financial
objectives. There would be 99 new units with 123 bedrooms in Phases I and II.
She said that with the existing units, the existing Red Roof and completion of
Phase I and II, the build out was at 196 units. She said that there were 197
proposed parking spaces with 4 drop-off spaces, all at surface level, no
underground spaces proposed.,
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Kirk noted the looped access with a total of 85 parking spaces for the units in thati
area. There were 3 different tYPes of parking: carports, tuck-under the housing unit
parking and surface parking. Kirk noted the laundry facilities and play ground area
on the maps.
Kirk said that Phase II of the Housing had 41 units with 73 surface parking spaces
10 spaces in front of the area and 29 spaces in the interior street area. She noted
that some of the existing residents would utilize some of these new spaces. The
bike racks and trash would be at the entry to each of the phases. Kirk said that
Phase III would not be dealt with until 2006 and is not part of the conceptual
application. Junior GOlf may move into the existing Pro building.
Kirk said there would be an addendum to the site plan at the July 1 lth meeting
showing a better relationship between the Pro Shop and Golf Course; adding more
parking for recreational and housing; a better routing of the main sewer line. She
said when the clubhouse was moved to the new location, the 18th Green would als0
be relocated for a better long-term project.
Kirk said the timeline was extremely tight with the construction schedule
beginning in September/October. She noted there was a construction management
..~'~ . and phasing timeline. She asked if there were additional key items from the
commissioners to focus on the July 11 th meeting regarding density, parking,
transportation demand management and construction phasing. Blaich noted there
was a lot of material to review. Bendon stated that he also had not had the ability
to review the materials nor have the referral agencies had the review time. Bendon
asked that the questions be for clarification tonight only. He said the addendum
would be prOvided prior to the next meeting.
Lee Novak, HOusing, stated that they have taken the direction of the commission
on high levels of density and higher parking ratio. He said there was a extremely
tight timeline with the construction phasing plan.
Ron Erickson stated that the one section with no control was the intersection
because of CDOT; he asked if CDOT had a timetable. He said intersection controli
is the one item prior to construction that is needed. Kirk replied that since May,
CDOT and the consultant for the City have been working together to finalize the
design of the intersection. She said that in terms of the actual building of the
intersection, it probably would not be done until next spring because asphalt could
not be laid in the winter. Erickson asked the July 11 th presentation include the
construction schedule, as it would relate to the position of the highway every step
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of the way. Novak said the construction phasing plan was not easy to understand,
but it will help understand process demands.
Erickson asked where the 18th Green was being moved. Tim Anderson stated that
it would be moved straight back to the fairway with the hole playing the same
distance. He said that there will be some cascading water added around the sand
trap to the clubhouse and additional parking will be picked up.
Roger Hunt inquired about the westbound access having handicap access. Kirk
replied there is access. Hunt asked what plans, if any accommodated a high-level
parking lot. Novak replied that the cost impacts without an actual plan for a garage
were very large on the utilities vs. what made sense on future garage costs. He said
that there were no physical features designed for an future potential garage use at
this time. Hunt reiterated that the future re-routing of sewer and water were not
designed at this time. Erickson restated comments of lowering the grade of the
existing parking lot enough under the current plan not to impact the possible
second story ora garage. Novak replied that he did not think that there was the
ability to lower that grade without re-routing the utilities. Erickson questioned that
ability. Blaich said that Ron was asking for that information not provided in this
packet. Bendon stated that after the referral process, he would be able to answer
those questions. Erickson stated that area had too much potential for storage
parking being so convenient to town.
Jasmine Tygre asked what exactly does the Transportation Demand Management
cover. Novak responded that was a referral memo from the Environmental Health
and Transportation Departments on conceptual measures in the application, which
cover a range of reducing the number of vehicles to and from the site. Tygre stated
that was very important.
Blaich said there were 133 recreational parking spaces planned and there were
concerns from the public on the number of spaces. Kirk responded they were
meeting with the Golf Board prior to the July meeting. Blaich asked how the
parking would be monitored for the residential aspect with people having a second
car. Novak replied the details would be worked out, but a second car may not be
allowed. Novak said there was a City goal to keep the trips across the Castle Creek
Bridge to the 1993 - 1994 levels; he said many of the methods were to keep those
goals in place. Blaich asked when the recreation parking leveled out and how
would the new restaurant affect the traffic. Tim Anderson. responded that there
would probably be fewer people coming to dine than the current number of softball
players~ Kirk stated that currently there were 97 existing units and 91 existing
parking spaces.
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Blaich stated that the parking issues must be reviewed to understand what was not
happening here in terms of solving parking problems (long term, over-flow and re-
development of current recreational and housing parking) prior to Council review.
Ohlson clarified that for the next review that the transportation management plan
(traffic on and off-site) and all parking issues (relating to one another) would be
discussed.
Mooney asked i£Phase III representations should be included in this application to
logically fit with parking issues and infrastructure. Bendon responded that there
was no plan for Phase III.
Carol Farino, public, asked about the signalized intersection. Kirk reiterated that
CDOT was in contact with the city on the signalized intersection approval process
for a left hand-mm signal but because of the asphalt construction season, next
spring was the plan.
MOTION: Roger Hunt moved to table action and continue the public
hearing on the Truscott PLANNED Unit Development (PUD) to July 11,
2000. Roger I-Ianeman second. APPROVED 7-0.
PUBLIC HEARING:
WITZ PROPERTY INITIAL ZONING AND GREENLINE REVIEW
Bob Blaich opened the public hearing. David Hoefer stated that for the record the
affidavit of notice met the jurisdictional requirements and he provided a criteria
sheet for the review process.
Chris Bendon stated that the applicant applied for annexation into the City of
Aspen and within a certain number of days the zoning must be provided after
annexation. The application also included a lot split and within the 8040 Greenline
Review process. He stated the reason it was called an initial 8040 Greanline
Review was because there were no details of architecture or final grading plans for
the typical final 8040 Greenline.
Bendon showed the property, 705 Spruce Street, currently with a house and gravel
drive, a stand of Aspens and a field of sage brush above Williams Ranch. Bendon
noted the lot split with a new drive on the uphill side of each building envelope.
He said the proposed building envelopes were smaller than zoning allows. Bendon
said the lot split was a City Council action with P&Z input from the 8040
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Greenline Review. The applicant would use a Transferable Development Rights
(TDR) created from the Smuggler Mobile Home Park in order to gain a GMQS
exemption on the newly created lot because it was originally located outside of the
town site.
Bendon noted that in condition #3 of the Resolution #00-32 development also
meant planting trees.
Bendon stated that curb and gutter was not appropriate in the rural areas of town
like this one. He said the drainage had to be handled in a softer approach with
swales or riprap. He said that in the original request for a trail that was to be
located along Spruce Street and that was included as condition #9; he said this was
not a requirement and requested this condition be deleted from the Resolution.
Staff recommended approval.
Alan Richman, planner for the Applicant, introduced Camilla Auger; Raymond
Auger; Chuck Brandt, attorney; David Panico, site planning architect and Jay
Hammond, Engineer. Camilla Auger stated that her involvement was based upon
community and neighborhood amenities for benefits to the larger Aspen
Community. She said that she felt the two smaller houses with two ADUs were
better than one mega-house. Auger said that their property was above this one and
helped gain city water. She stated that they were committed to this neighborhood
and planned on living in their home forever. Auger said a landscape plan was
important for this property. She said the Hunter Creek and Lani White Trails do
not have easements and she is willing to grant those easements. She said that they
worked closely with the trails people to connect those trails.
Richman said that each proposed new house would include an ADU. He said that
the Augers have also purchased a 575 square foot one-bedroom free-market unit at
6th and Main (the Little Victorians), which will be deed-restricted to a category two
affordable housing with a maximum sales price of $100,000.00. Richman said the
Housing Board approved this unanimously.
Jay Hammond provided the drainage plan for the Witz property and properties
above the site. The site above contained a large drainage basin, which comes down
and crosses two culverts then was diverted into the Williams Ranch area.
Hammond noted the soils were porous and rocky. He said that there would be an
erosion control plan for the construction phase of the Witz parcel with little
movement of material offthe sites.
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Richman said the setbacks meet City and County standards. Camilla Auger said
they would work with the neighbors prior to house placement so the nearest new
house was not a problem for the neighbors. Richman stated that the applicant
agreed to houses no larger than 5,000 square feet, including the ADUs and garages.
Jasmine Tygre asked if the representation was for a single-family house with an
ADU on each lot and not duplexes. Camilla Auger replied that was absolutely
true.
Roger Hunt asked how the Lani White easement would be conveyed. Camilla
Auger stated that would be given to the city. Richman added that at the time of
final recordation, it would be reflected on the final plat. Camilla Auger stated that
the homeowners association would continue the upkeep of the road without asking
for the city's involvement: Bendon stated that private roads did not have to be
adopted by the city with annexation. Bendon noted the roads would be upgraded
to the standards required: Richman said that the homeowners were more worried
that the city would take over the road and they want to leave it as it is under their
ownership.
Steven Buettow asked about the FAR discrepancies with lot area reduction.
Bendon said the lot calculations were done were as one lot and not the reduced
area, so they were larger numbers than what you could actually build. Bendon said
that the hous~ would be no more than 5,000 square feet. Roger Haneman stated
that the road was a single lane road and with the redevelopment of the Witz
property more impacts would take place. Camilla Auger replied that right at the
Witz property, which was the most narrow section o£the road, they would be make
it a bit wider in conjunction with the landscape plan.
Ron Erickson asked how the Homeowners Association felt about the deed
'restriction of the Little Victorian Unit. Camilla Auger responded that the response
from the Condo Association was a very enthusiastic response.
Jim Moran and his wife Mary live at 688 Spruce Street. He said the drainage
problems from up the hill still existed and provided photographs of the problems.
He said that his house was located in the city and the city led them to believe that
this problem would be solved in 1999, it was not. Jim Moran said that curb and
gutter and storm drainage were needed in that intersection. Moran illustrated the
problem on the map, which was caused by the SilverLode Subdivision construction
trucks. SilverLode still does not have a proper drainage plan. Moran said that the
would oppose the annexation and the lot split unless there was a condition that the
applicant must not allow drainage, surface water, sediment and erosion to run
down their driveway which created the mess shown in the photos. Jim Moran said
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the problem occurred after 1998 when Mr. Markel and Auger paved North Spruce
Road and put in the water line extension. Moran said that unless a ditch was
maintained along the paved road, it made no sense, because the gravel would
continue to come down. Moran said he was encouraged that Mrs. Auger stated
that she would solve this problem so there was no erosion coming down the road.
Moran stated that he wanted to examine the plan prior to approval. Moran asked
the ownership of North Spruce Street and what the user rights entailed because
there was nothing in the application. Camilla Auger responded that they would
aggressively undertake a better solution for the water that runs off the tip of the
Witz property now. Auger said that whatever the Engineer needed to do would be
done. She said that they do not control the gravel that comes from the public
street, Spruce Street, that runs in front of Centennial but would control the North
Spruce Street run-off. Auger said that everybody who owns property off of North
Spruce Street has easements with one another and she would be responsible for the
gravel maintenance from that road.
Cecil Lewitz, public, stated that he was adjacent to the property and questioned the
FAR. Richman replied that the city FAR calculations were higher than the county.
He said the city allowed about 5500 FAR. Lewitz asked that the size of the houses
be kept at a minimum with the allowable 8300 square feet prior to the lot split,
which would put the two individual houses in the 4,000 square foot range each.
Lewitz said the bulk and size should be considered.
Scottie Cooper, public, stated that she lived at 708 Spruce. She said that the
annexation was being requested to allow for 5,000 square feet. Camilla Auger
replied the reason for annexation was because of the county moratorium and that
they applied to the city because of timing. Auger said they did applied for the
same as they would have to the county and increased all the setbacks and did not
have any concept of any FAR differences. Scottie Cooper agreed with Mr. Lewitz,
than having one 8300 square foot house would be better than two houses, two
ADUs and all of the attendant traffic brought on by the project. Cooper asked
about the Lani White trail access and commented that Williams Ranch skated out
on the emergency access being fixed. She said that she was opposed to the
annexation and lot split approval.
Bendon said there was an agreement between Williams Ranch and SilverLode on
who actually had the monetarily responsibility to fix and clean-up that emergency
access. He said the city had a bond in escrow from the developer, which recovered
some of the money for the Williams Ranch Homeowners to use in other parts of
their subdivision. Bob Blaich noted that P&Z and Council approved the project
with that basis in mind.
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David Hoefer stated that it should be made clear that annexation was not an issue
tonight, but would be brought before City Council. Bendon stated that the public
hearing was only for the zoning action of the application tonight.
Brooke Peterson, attorney, stated that he represented the Porath family trust. He
said that there were important factors about the infrastructure that affects the
project and the neighbors.
Lewis asked the difference between the R-30 City and R-30 County zoning.
Bendon stated the property sizes were identical at 30,000 square feet each but the
FAR was different.
Camilla Auger stated that their landscape plan was right next to the Williams
Ranch entrance/exit and she was willing to work with getting them to work
cooperatively to get the whole thing done at once. Auger felt that the ADUS were
an important part of their commitment to be occupied for a proper mix of Aspen.
Erickson asked for a commitment on renting the ADUs. Auger replied that they
probably did not have that capability to deed restrict the ADUs but that this
neighborhood did tend to have occupied ADUs as opposed to downtown Aspen.
Erickson stated that he did not feel qualified to make a zoning decision tonight
because they do not know what will be located there.
Buettow stated frustration on the numbers with FAR and thought there could be a
clearer presentation on the differences between County and City FAR. Bendon
said the final 8040 would include the criteria for the building sizes.
MOTION: Ron Erickson moved to extend the meeting to 7:30 p.m.
Tim Mooney second. APPROVED 5-2.
MOTION: Tim Mooney moved to approve P&Z Resolution #00-32 the
"initial" 8040 Greenline Review for the two proposed development
parcels on the Witz property, 705 North Spruce Street, with the
conditions and recommendations that City Council include this
property upon annexation the Low-Density Residential (R-30) Zone
District amending Section 2 ¶3 strike development change to structures
and delete ¶#9. Roger Itaneman second.
Erickson asked if the motion were denied, could P&Z then vote to continue the
public hearing or would the applicant have to start over again. Hoefer replied that
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an alternate motion to continue could be made if this motion were denied. Mooney
stated that he made the motion because it was the appropriate zone district within
in the city and shared Roger's concern with the initial 8040 review or the designs.
Mooney said that during the 8040 final he had hoped that all of the appropriate
parties would be present for that review process.
Tygre stated that she shared the uneasiness of the rest of the commission with this
initial 8040 Greenline. She said that it was naive to think that no reliance would be
placed on tonight's approval of this initial 8040 Greenline review. She agreed with
Tim that there was no other zone district that would apply to this project. Richman
stated that if the 8040 portion was the problem was with approval tonight, then he
would remove it from this review tonight. He stated that that he wanted to just
deal with the zoning issue.
Mooney withdrew the previous motion.
MOTION: Tim Mooney moved to approve P&Z Resolution #00-32
and recommend that City Council include this property upon
annexation of the Low-Density Residential (R-30) Zone District on the
Witz property, 705 North Spruce Street. Roger Haneman seconded.
Roll call vote: Hunt, yes; Tygre, yes; Blaich, yes; Erickson, yes;
Haneman, yes; Buettow, yes, Mooney, yes. APPROVED 7-0.
Ron Erickson and Jasmine Tygre excused themselves.
PUBLIC HEARING:
ZOLINE BURLINGAME HOUSING
Bob Blaich opened the public hearing. Julie Ann Woods stated that Tim and Roger
were at the discussion last Thursday. John Worcester stated the statewide election
in August was under discussion, and Council asked about placing the Zoline pre-
annexation on that ballot.
Mary Roberts, housing director, explained that the chart. Roger Hunt stated the
housing was not a problem but the access and the re-opening of Old Stage Road
were problems. Hunt said that the city should be held to the same standards as a
private project. Hunt cited that the Buttermilk Road redevelopment should be tied
into the Old Stage Road re-opening with a four-way intersection and held
accountable even if the Maroon Creek Club interchange was developed.
Blaich agreed with Hunt as a problem for the development of the entire property
and wanted the CDOT solutions. Worcester said CDOT's traffic solution was the
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one presented and he did not believe that there would be an underpass like Maroon
Creek. Worcester said there was a little computer generated models that CDOT
brought in to: illustrate their point with stoplights.
Mooney said that city would be building the Zoline's affordable housing and
infrastructure in exchange for a 20-acre parcel. Mooney said the pre-annexation
agreement made agreements that may not have the money backing it. He said that
the open space was not open space but rather a working ranch for the Zolines
without the cost of negotiating access. Mary Roberts responded that the Zolines
were responsible for some of the costs and the free-market houses would offset
some of the affordable housing costs.
Herb Klein stated that the Zolines could have come in with fewer affordable
housing and the placement would have been in a much more environmentally
Sensitive area. Klein said this would not be the same as the Snyder project.
Roberts commented that there was still a net gain of 100 affordable housing units.
Blaich stated that what concerned him the most was that a suburbia was being
built. He cited the Library example as not being able to do the in-fill in town
where it belonged. He said this was a sprawl issue; 125 units on approximately 25
acres and on the 103 acres there would be 12 free market units. He said that if the
road would be extended from the AABC it would take a load off this intersection.
Blaich asked that these issues get solved up-front and not doTM the line.
Mooney said that during the land use review process, if the Zolines had already
designed the project. Mooney said that there needed to be the ability to go back to
the Aspen Valley Land trust and ask about the access; he asked the sizes of the
residential sites and building envelopes and the sizes of the cabins. Worcester said
that CDOT ruled on the 4th leg to the intersection. Hunt asked that P&Z deal with
what was given. Mooney asked what components needed to be considered.
Roberts said there were conservation easements on the irrigated portions of the
land, which would remain as the BAR/X Ranch.
Woods asked for feedback to give to Council for the ballot language. The
commission said that they had they same issues from prior meetings with the
Zolines mitigating the monster homes. Worcester stated that the election was not
binding but he said that he did not believe that City Council would proceed without
voter approval. Worcester said that Exhibit B was the most important part.
Klein stated that there was no tax charitable gift but rather a quid pro quo. Mooney
said there should be an appraisal on the land that the city will redevelop. Klein
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said that when the bowl was endangered of development he contacted the city to
mitigate the environmental impacts.
Charles Vresilovic asked about doing away with the ADUs for the larger homes
since the affordable housing units were so close and in exchange for those ADUs
for more land. Roberts said the TDRs could be used to delete the ADUs.
Vresilovic asked if less units could be placed from the affordable housing end.
Worcester said the commission would have the review process to come up with the
number of units.
Hunt asked if the Maroon Creek Club was asked to allow the New Stage Road to
be used by the new development. Worcester replied that was not worked out as yet
and said that CDOT was the deciding factor on the solution to the road. Blaich
stated that the Maroon Creek underpass was always iced-up and the Stops made it a
very difficult intersection. Worcester stated that it was not an ideal access for
Highway 82 in the winter.
Blaich stated that the design process had to include the whole traffic pattern in
order to make it a livable community. He said there needed to be a road
connection to the AABC from this development and the Burlingame project; he
said that the Aspen Valley Land Trust would not discuss those options. Blaich
excused himself from the meting.
Mooney said this was all about design and to split the access was necessary to
make the project work and for highway safety. He asked where the TDRs came
from, He asked about the use for the open space.
Meeting adjourned.
Tr~scribed by
Ja~kie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk
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COMMISSIONER, STAFF & PUBLIC COMMENTS ................................................................................. ~....... 1
ELECTION OF A NEW CHAIRPERSON .............................................................................................................. 1
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST .............................................................................................. 1
VARIOUS MINOR CODE AMENDMENTS .......................................................................................................... 1
TRUSCOTT FINAL PUD .......................................................................................................................................... 2
WITZ PROPERTY INITIAL ZONING AND GREENLINE REVIEW ............................................................... 5
ZOLINE BURLINGAME HOUSING .................................................................................................................... 10