HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.20000711ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION JULY 11, 2000
Bob Blaich opened the regular meeting at 4:35 p.m. held the Pitkin County Library
with Jasmine Tygre, Roger Haneman, Roger Hunt and Tim Mooney present. City
staff in attendance: Lee Novak, Housing; Chris Bendon, Nick Lelack, Joyce
Ohlson, Community Development; Ed Sadler, Asset Manager; Kathleen
Strickland, Chief Deputy City Clerk.
COMMISSIONER. STAFF & PUBLIC COMMENTS
Jasmine Tygre recalled that there was a condition of approval for a separation,
without a door connecting the ADUs to the main residences, at 123 West Hyman;
she asked for clarification of this approval. She noted they were like "media
rooms" with a wet bar in the corner instead of being an ADUs. Tygre stated the
same was true at 999 Cemetery Lane.
Roger Hunt noted an advertisement with a "guest apartment" which was probably
another ADU gone from the housing pool.
Joyce Ohlson said that Bob Blaich received a fax from Lorrie Winnerman, which
will be addressed at the July 25t~ P&Z meeting. A copy was included in the
packet, dated July 10, 2000 "Techniques to Control Home Sizes".
Chris Bendon mentioned there was a Civic Center Master Plan meeting this
Thursday at the Galena Plaza at noon for the other half of the site tour. He said the
in-fill program will meet on July 27~ at noon.
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
None.
CONTINUED PUBLIC I-IEARING (06/20/00):
TRUSCOTT FINAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
Bob Blaich opened the public hearing. Chris Bendon, community development
department, stated that tonight would be the public comment and presented an
overview time line (Exhibit # 3). There was anew site plan introduced at the
meeting. There were 6 new tennis courts, a new golf cart barn, reconfigured 18th
Tee, reconfigured parking lot, new golf, tennis and Nordic clubhouse, new entrance
from Highway 82 with a signalized light, 2 phases of housing (99 units -122
bedrooms). Bendon said the redevelopment of the Red Roof Inn was not part of
this final application and would be brought in closer to the application date of
2006.
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Bendon stated that the density and parking issues were agreed goals to achieve for
this project as well as a one to one parking ratio (one parking space per residential
unit in the overall development). Bendon noted'that the parking issues have been
debated at P&Z, Housing, Council, Staff, and the Public. Bendon recommends the
one to one ratio.
Bendon said that P&Z requested 100 units; this plan has 99 residential units. He
said the request for a future parking structure is not precluded with this design.
There is an on-going study on remote parking, which should be complete within 4
months.
Bendon said the lighting plan provides an abundance of light and recommends that
the lighting plan be addressed in a subsequent review with staff approval or with a
Commission and Council hearing process. Bendon noted the Snyder lighting plan
worked quite well and hoped for that same approach on this project.
Bendon stated there was reluctance for "a pay as you go or charge for residential
parking" transportation management plan, but rather the applicants are looking for
incentives rather than disincentives for the residential parking issues.
Bendon said that the bulk of the phasing for the construction of the housing would
be done prior to the completion of the intersection construction at Highway 82.
Laura Kirk, architect, stated that preliminary approval for the signalized
intersection at Highway 82 was received. She noted the pedestrian and bike
underpasses to and from the site connecting with the regional bike trail were to
alleviate interference with traffic on the Truscott entry road.
Kirk explained the configuration of the 6 new tennis courts, a new golf cart barn,
reconfigured 18th Tee, reconfigured parking lot, new golf, tennis and Nordic
clubhouse. The existing pro shop is still under negotiation; the golf offices will be
relocated at a later date and will remain in the Red Roof for now.
Kirk utilized the revised site plan (moving the clubhouse to the east) to illustrate
the residential parking and recreational parking; 7 additional housing parking
spaces and 20 more recreational spaces, a total of 81 spaces were added in that lot.
She said there were 205 total housing parking spaces with 4 drop off places.
Kirk illustrated the service areas and identified the trash, mail, bike racks, snow
storage and attached delivery area for the clubhouse.
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Kirk provided drawings of split-level parking garages, noting residential and
recreational spaces. She said there was an aesthetic question of building the split-
level garage in phases.
Lee Novak, housing department, stated that the transportation issues include the
management and parking enforcement. He said the Housing Board opposed a fee
system for residential parking. The recreational parking would also be managed by
the on site property manager.
Novak explained the construction phasing of the tennis courts complete on
November 1st with the golf portions complete by May lSt. He said that the housing
phasing was beginning April 2001 and would finish 14 - 16 months later. He said
that access for recreational and housing would be open at all times.
Novak said that paving would not be possible in November and there would be
flagging rather that a temporary signal at this time. He said that if this went to
Council July 24th with second reading in the middle of August, the October and
November dates could be met.
Novak noted staff did not recommend a parking garage. Mooney asked why the
garage plan was not recommended~ Novak replied that the funds were not
available and the parking ratio was met with this plan.
Kirk explained the utility corridors including fiber optics, water, sanitary sewer and
CDOT. Hunt questioned the reasoning for not utilizing the future garage structure
with underground utilities placement. Novak replied that the footers were a
problem for the utility placement. Mooney said that there were other options of
gaining parking spaces with a portion ora second level ifa design were utilized
using a budget that would work. Mooney said there could be more than one plan
for a destination parking lot.
Jasmine Tygre reiterated one transportation issue that comes to mind is the over-
crowding of buses from this project. She stressed that this was to be a transit-
orientated project. Bendon responded that RFTA needs to identify the enabling
legislation for mitigation purposes. There is currently no method to require
transportation mitigation.
Hunt asked where the alternative transportation corridor would be located. Kirk
responded with an alignment for possible points at the future bridge and at the
tennis courts.
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Mooney asked the height ofthe restaurant, pro shop and location of construction
worker parking. He questioned what would happen to the current golf parking,
construction parking and resident parking during construction phasing. Mooney
stressed that safety was the main issue of the project and should preempt any
construction until the intersection of Highway 82 was completed. Novak replied
that the tennis courts would be the construction parking lots and the 130 spaces
necessary for residential and recreational uses would be kept open. Novak said the
intersection work will be April to June before the summer season.
Mooney asked how a traffic signal fits into the master plan with Burlingame
coming on and with the unresolved questions including the Highway 82
intersection future alignment with another roundabout and sequence of the other
traffic signals. Bendon replied that there are positive and negative aspects to the
transportation planning alternatives. Bendon said the conceptual approval had to
address the intersections and there was a report in the packet on traffic flows.
Hunt said that the signal should probably be a temporary one that would work now
through Construction and then have a permanent solution. Kirk responded that
there was a request to obtain a temporary signal but CDOT does but operate that
way. Novak said that the money CDOT allocated for a permanent signal could
come out at any time. Novak stated that the project prompted CDOT to do the
design work on this portion of the highway. Ed Sadler noted that the applicants are
coordinating with CDOT on the plan.
Reese Williams stated that he lives across from the project and voiced concern for
the need of traffic direction control at the intersection now; temporary or
permanent was not the issue. He said the safety of people turning into and out of
this intersection is the issue. Williams urged P & Z to consider the safety of the
people.
Shirley Henley stated that she also lives across the highway and safety was the
problem. She said that this was one of the worst intersections in this valley and for
the people that lived in the retirement community across the way this was a terrible
situation. Henley asked what was more important "life and limb" or this project to
be done.
Carol Farino stated that she spoke to CDOT and they were in favor of the
signalized light immediately and it was included in the May 1997 EIS. Farino said
that CDOT stressed to her that if any thing were to be done, CDOT approval was
required and necessary.
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Novak said that they agreed with the Tennis Club Subdivision people and if paving
did not stop November 1st, paving would be the first thing in place after the winter
season. He said they would go back to CDOT for the similar interpretations.
Shirley Henley asked what the differences were between putting in street lights and
stop lights. Bendon replied that was a question for CDOT.
Reese Williams questioned spending the money for a temporary light but control
was needed at this intersection. He reiterated the significant risk to "life and limb"
and urged City Council to be aware of this as a P&Z recommendation.
Ohlson stated for jurisdiction between local and state authorities that P&Z does not
have the authority to approve or deny specific infrastructure or the costs in
relationship to the highway corridor. Ohlson reiterated that the public testimony
with CDOT agreed and that there was a deficit of highway safety for this
intersection. She noted that was not the sole responsibility of this applicant.
Ohlson stated the recommendations would be taken in to consideration and
handled in the way staff can deal with them. She encouraged the public to go to
City Council to address some of these issues.
Carol Farino stated that CDOT was aware of the safety and the responsibilities.
She stated that something had to be done now, pave this intersection now instead of
paving something else.
Bendon stated the applicant was encouraged to work with CDOT on a signalized
intersection implementation as soon as possible even with a temporary light.
Novak agreed and asked the commission not to hold the paving deadlines to the
CDOT approvals.
Blaich noted the 5 items from housing to review. Tygre stated it was the P&Z's
responsibility to review the details for final PUD. Bendon responded that the
lighting plan would be come back prior for final recordation.
Hunt questioned the serviceability for delivery trucks for the restaurant/pro shop
area. Kirk replied there were walls from the delivery area, which limited space,
but it was adequate. She noted the Fire Marshall approved the plan.
Hunt reiterated that it was an error to not allow for future utility easements. He
said that the parking plan was barely adequate for this project. Hunt stated concern
and recommended parking be accomplished at a lower grade for future expansion.
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Haneman stated the number of residential units and the number of parking spaces
seemed adequate. Kirk replied that there would be 221 units with 285 spaces.
Blaich noted the 4th option for parking was the most viable but was not considered
because of costs. He said that should be a issue for the future. Mooney requested
that the representations made by the applicant be attached through this approval
process for the future needs.
JeffWoods stated that the tennis courts would be ora very high quality. The noise
from the highway regarding the tennis courts was discussed and parks planners
will address these problems.
Ted Guy explained the engineering for the utilities and drainage for parking areas.
Blaich noted that the remote parking study was very important component and
would be addressed again. Blaich asked the commissioners which of the proposed
parking plans could be acceptable.
Mooney stated the costs were incurred for the commercial entities and not for what
he felt was more important, the macro parking plan. He stressed the need for a
second level for long-range parking, which would be an amenity for the
community in the long run. Novak responded that the surface level parking was
the best alternative for this project location. Hunt said that in four months, when
the remote parking study was completed, then some re-design of the surface
parking could be accomplished. He asked how the commission accommodated
that concept into the plan for approval. Bendon replied that flexibility was
needed.
MOTION: Roger Hunt moved to extend the meeting until 7:30 p.m.
Tim Mooney second. APPROVED 5-0.
Tygre asked where and when the transit-friendly orientation was lost. This is a
threshold issue for her. She stated that she felt there needed to be a transportation
management program and without it the whole of the affordable housing program
would be set back if it is not dealt with at this time. Tygre requested that the
transportation management plan be in place prior to approval.
Novak stated that the strategies outlined in the memo would effectively mitigate
the undo burden for the residential parking. Novak said that possibly a residential
parking sticker could be issued for one vehicle per unit (resident); additional
vehicles beyond that could not be parked on site. Tygre stated that the plan needs
to address RFTA capacities for this project. She stated the concern for getting
people in and out of this project on public transportation was a major issue.
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Bendon suggested that the Commission charge the transportation issues to RFTA
and City Council for the adoption of rules and regulations on future projects. He
stated that the City could not enforce any developer to mitigate what RFTA can
provide for service in the future. He stressed that there was a need for support
from the Commission for RFTA mitigation.
Bendon noted that part of the conceptual approval includes autos parking right
outside some of the units and one third of the parking remote. Tygre reiterated that
the density which was approved because of the proximity to town and the
management of the transportation was an important component of the plan and has
been left out. She stated that all the options were not addressed in a sufficiently
detailed way for final PUD approval.
Mooney stated that there were no hard costs on the transportation figures as part of
the plan. He said there would be a demand on RFTA and that should be expected.
Bendon said that RFTA could offer but not be required to submit or enforce a bus
time schedule unless there was a long-range planning tool under the IGA or the
City. He stated that he understood the need for transit planning and management
but the tools were not in place for the developer to be required for the
implementation of such a plan to serve the project.
The commissioners felt that the phasing issues, the need for on-site parking (long
and short term, over-flow), utility easements 'at grade and for future development, 2
level parking, the canyon wall-effect were stressed, transportation issues were
important issues and still not addressed.
Blaich stated the Library had another meeting scheduled at this time, so there have
been no conclusions reached tonight therefore the meeting mus. t be continued.
Ohlson noted the meeting would be continued to July 18th at C~ty Hall.
MOTION: Tim Mooney moved to continue the meeting to July 18,
2000. Jasmine Tygre second. APPROVED 5-0.
Meeting adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
/~Transcribed by
Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk
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COMMISSIONER, STAFF & PUBLIC COMMENTS ............................ , ............................................................. 1
DEcLARATIoN OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST .............................................................................................. 1
TRUSCOTT FINAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT .................................................................................... 1