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Home My WebLink Aboutminutes.apz.20020416ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Minutes APril 16, 2002 Jasmine Tygre, chairperson, opened the regular P&Z meeting at 4:30 with Ron Erickson, Roger Haneman, Bert Myrin and Ruth Kruger present. Eric Cohen and Steven Buettow were excused. Staffin attendance: David Hoefer, Assistant City Attorney; Fred Jarman, Community Development; Kathryn Koch, City Clerk and Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk. COMMISSIONER, STAFF and PUBLIC COMMENTS Roger Haneman provided the update on the Obermeyer COWOP; the concept of the redesigned road with discussion of amounts of asphalt, auto and pedestrian access. Haneman stated that most of the focus was On the old Obermeyer warehouse site. Bert Myrin inquired about the letter that he sent to David Hoefer regarding the COWOP Process. David Hoefer replied that the letter was forwarded to the Mayor and City Manager. Myrin stated that communication from the boards don't get across from staffto Council. Jasmine Tygre said that when Council and the Manager respond to the commission in general, then the cOmmiSsiOn cOUld de~ide if any action should be taken. Fred Jarman provided the Obermeyer COWOP schedule: April 17th; May 1st from 2-7; May 7th 4 p.m. work session with Council; GMQS work sessions with council June 25m; June 17th; June lSth; June 11th. Jarman asked the commission if they wanted a work session on the annexation plan; since it was unknown what the annexation plan was, the commission requested bringing this Up at the next meeting with Chris Bendon. The next regular P&Z meeting was May 21st. Ron Erickson noted that some members of the public questioned the size of the house on the corner of Cemetery Lane and SilverKing Drive with regards to FAR; the size of the lot, square footage above and below grade and if setbacks were being met. DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST None. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING (03/19/02 and 04/02/02): 775 and 777 CEMETERY LANE RESIDENTIAL DESIGN STANDARD VARIANCES Jasmine Tygre opened the continued public hearing for 775 and 777 Cemetery Lane Residential Design Standard variances for the garage and garage door placement. ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Minutes April 16, 2002 Fred Jarman said that this was a continued public hearing from April 2nd and March 19th. The criteria sheets from Section 26.222.010 of the Land Use Code were distributed. Jan-nan stated that staff recommended denial on both variances; this was consistent with the last 2 hearings. Jarman noted that Chet Winchester and Joachim Weimann were to come back with more refined garage door elevations as well as landscaping plans. Chet Winchester responded that they didn't have time to get the changes and landscape drawings in before James left. Nick Solis, architect, said that the landscape plan with elevations and screening needs recommended from the parks department. Solis said that he took out some trees with the recommendation from Stephen Ellsperman, Parks Department. Jasmine Tygre stated that sketch #11 April 2002 was the plan to be approved by the Parks Department. Ron Erickson asked about the overlapping on the landscape plan. Solis replied that was what the parks department wanted. Solis said that the elevations for the garage doors showed the paneling and windows to match the rest of the windows and siding on the house. Solis stated that he asked parks about the grass pavers and they said it would be a maintenance nightmare because they would not hold up for the day-to-day use. There was no public comment. Bert Myrin asked what would be the height of the trees at the time of installation. The architect replied that the trees height would be from day one installation or 5 to 6 feet. Solis said that the blue shrubs shown would only get to 8 foot so it wouldn't detract from the overall Cemetery Lane Plan. David Hoefer asked the timetable for the installation of the landscape completion. Jochiem Weimann replied that the houses should be finished July lS* so the landscaping could be complete in another month. Ruth Kruger said that the garage doors blended in nicely and the landscaping was a challenge that was satisfied. Ron Erickson stated that the commission was being fair hearing the case. Kruger stated that the design review standards were too constraining for a lot of this width. Erickson said that the house was designed back from the golf course making it closer to the street; he said that the problems were of design. Myrin said that the parks department did not allow the screening, so he said that he wasn't there yet. Winchester said that they did not want to block the neighbor to the right and that was the reason that the building was moved but then they had the garage doors to fit in without an alley. 2 ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Minutes April 16, 2002 MOTION #1: Ruth Kruger moved to approve Resolution #12, series 2002 approving the variances from the residential design standards to allow 2 garages that are located forward on the duplex at 775 and 777 Cemetery Lane to contain garage doors that face the street and allow for double stall garage dOors finding that the review standards that yield greater compliance with the goals of the Aspen Area Community Plan and be clearly necessary for reasons of fairness related to unusual site specific constraints and the landscape plan be completed by August 1St. Ron Erickson seconded~ Roll call vote: Erickson, no; Haneman, yes; Myrin, no; Kruger, yes; Tygre, yes. DENIED 3-2. Tygre inquired about the color of the siding on the drawings. Weimann responded that it would be more like the garage doors in the illustration dated 11 April 2002. Myrin asked the color of the concrete. Weimann replied that it would be a sand or buff colored concrete. MOTION #2: Ron Erickson moved to approve Resolution #12, series 2002 approving the variances from the residential design standards to allow 2 garages that are located forward on the duplex at 775 and 777 Cemetery Lane to contain garage doors that face the street and allow for double stall garage doors finding that the review standards that yield greater compliance with the goals of the Aspen Area Community Plan and more effectively addressed the issUe or problem a given standard or provision responded to with the sketches dated April 11, 2002 and the following condition: 1. The Applicant shallinstall all of the landscaping shown on the proposed landscape plan no later that August 1, 2002. 2. The garage doors shall be in compliance with the plan marked as Exhibi~ #1 from the public hearing. Ruth Kruger seconded. Roll call vote: Ericks°n, yes; Haneman, yes; Myrin, yes; Kruger, yes; Tygre, yes. APPROVED 5'0. MINUTES MOTION: Roger Haneman moved t° apProve the GMc minutes from April 2, 2002. Ruth Kruger seconded. APPROVED 5-0. Bert Myrin said that his comments on the P&Z minutes from April 2nd were shortened and requested more detail adding his comments. David Hoefer noted that minutes were not a transcript and under state law the minutes merely needed to reflect what occurred and motions. Jasmine Tygre said that maybe Bert's comments could be an addendum to the minutes. Bert agreed. Jackie Lothian stated that this motion would reflect the addendum to the minutes of April 2nd. 3 ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Minutes April 16, 2002 MOTION: Roger Haneman moved to approve the April 2, 2002 minutes with the addendum of Bert Myrin's comments: Myrin stated that the P&Z and HPC meeting minutes going back several years reflected a formal involvement of P&Z and HPC in the selection of their representatives that were recommended to Council for various CO~VOP's and other Council appointed positions. Myrin stated that this was a very sharp contrast to the appointment process of two P&Z members and an HPC member to the Obermeyer COWOP that are not reflected in the minutes of any P&Z or HPC meeting. Myrin felt that when the City is an interested developer the City should never have the appearance of an old boy network or insider networking where a member of staff is choosing COgVOP members rather than allowing P&Z to have a formal involvement in recommending its representatives. Myrin indicated that what happened here was a sneaky way for Staff to use a back door available only in developments where the City is a potential developer. Myrin believes there have been some problems with the presentation of the InFill project, a slanting of data at times, and removing the formal involvement of P&Z in selecting the COWOP member underlines his con cern. Myrin asked if the P&Z's formal involvement in the recommendation of its representatives did not meet the goals of Staff, then does Staff have veto power over the recommendation process that occurred at P&Z? Myrin stated he is committed to the idea of citizen volunteers not being circumvented by staff or "the system '; to the idea that P&Z, consists of hard working citizen volunteers working with professional staff, and with those commissioners charged with giving advice to Council, not abrogating that duty to staff. Ruth Kruger seconded. APPROVED 5-0. Meeting adjourned 5:45 p.m. k~*e Lot~ian,~l~ep~tk-~ity Clerk 4