HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.20030805A ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Minutes August 05~ 2003
~-. COMMISSIONER, STAFF and PUBLIC COMMENTS ........................................ 2
MINUTES ................................ 2
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS ............................................. 3 ~ '~
MISCELLANEOUS LAND USE CODE AMENDMENTS .................................... 3
MISCELLANEOUS LAND USE CODE AMENDMENTS .................................... 4
MAROON CREEK'CLUB PUD/SPA AMENDMENT, CHANGE IN USE ......... 5
ASPEN HIGHLANDS VILLAGE PUD AMENDMENT - SIGNAGE .................. 8
ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Minutes August 05, 2003
Jasmine opened the regular meeting of the Aspen Planning & Zoning Commission
at 4:35 pm in Sister Cities Meeting Room. Eric Cohen, Ruth Kruger, Jack
Johnson, Roger Haneman, John Rowland, Steve Skadron and Jasmine Tygre were
present. Dylan Johns was excused. City of Aspen staff in attendance: David
Hoefer, Assistant City Attorney; Chris Bendon, James Lindt, Sarah Oates, Scott
Woodford, Community Development; Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk.
COMMISSIONER~ STAFF and PUBLIC COMMENTS
Jack Johnson asked about the car inside the hole at the Grand Aspen site and what
was happening with the project.
Ruth Kruger asked how the mall-leased space was determined. David Hoefer
replied that it was a dollar amount based on square footage and Kathy Strickland
was the contact.
Eric Cohen asked about the progress on the Bavarian. Chris Bendon replied that it
was being remodeled for affordable housing; the entire PUD was based upon the
building being remodeled because~ofthe access. Cohen asked if the rest of the
project was affordable housing for sale. Bendon answered that it was various
categories.
Jasmine Tygre asked how the Burlingame D project got to this acquisition
problem. Bendon replied that he did not know where the responsibility for that
was but the planning office did not have anything to do with title work. Hoefer
said that one would have thought that the AABC would have come in with these
concerns long before now. Tygre asked about them being no connection between
big Burlingame and the ABC. Bendon answered that was part of the conditions
from John McBride with no vehicular connection but the city was pursuing a
footpath.
Staff and the commission gave Eric Cohen a wedding card.
Chris Bendon provided an updated Infill schedule for meetings.
MINUTES
MOTION: Ruth Kruger moved to approve the minutes from June 3, July 1
and July 15, 2003; seconded by Roger Itaneman. APPROVED 7-0.
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DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS
Ruth Kruger and SteTM Skadr°n had conflicts of interest with the AsPen Highlands
Item on the Agenda.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING (07/01/03):
MISCELLANEOUS LAND USE CODE AMENDMENTS
Jasmine opened and continued the public hearing fo~'Mi~eii~cm~ ~and ~e
COde Amendments from July 1st (packet IV.A. 1.).
Scott Woodford stated that this item was separated from the code amendments to
move it forward to Council as a priority for codification. The proposed change in
language No Multiple Applications. The City of Aspen shall not accept or review
more than one development application concUrrently on any one property or
portion ora property. To submit a new application on a property, any active
development application must be Vacate. Upon determining, there is a public
purpose to be served, the Community Development Director may waive this
limitation.
No public comments.
The co~is~i0h' diScUssed the Several aPPliCations that were currently in the
process and how this change would affect that. David Hoefer noted that a better
quality process was maintained if there was only one application in the process at a
time in addition there was the practical issue of staff time; if every applicant
submitted'2 applications it would use up more staff time and burden the system for
new applications. The commission wanted to ensure that the GMQS amendments
would not be left behind.
MOTION: Roger Haneman moved to approve Resolution #15, 2003 for an
amendment to the land use code regarding No Multiple Applications. The City
of Aspen shall not accept or review more than one development application
concurrently on any one property or portion of a property. To submit a new
application on a property, any active development aPpiichti0n must be vacate.
Upon determining there is a public purpose to be served, the Community
Development Director may waive this limitation. Eric Cohen seconded. Roll
call vote: Kruger, yes; Cohen, yes; Johnson, yes; Haneman, yes; Tygre, yes;
Rowland, yes; Skadron, abstain. APPROVED 6-0.
It was discussed that the new members could vote if they felt comfortable with the
code amendment after reading the minuteSl
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CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING (07/01/03):
MISCELLANEOUS LAND USE CODE AMENDMENTS
Jasmine Tygre opened the continued' public hearing on miscellaneous code
amendments. Scott Woodford explained that the P&Z requested further
examination of (Section 5) Variance Criteria for Residential Design Standards
regarding the definition of"context". Language was added (1). Provide an
appropriate design or pattern of development considering the context in which the
development is proposed and the purpose of the particular standard. In evaluating
the context as it is used in the criteria, the reviewing board may consider the
relationship of the proposed development with adjacent structures, the immediate
neighborhood setting, or a broader vicinity as the board feels is necessa~, to
determine if the exception is warranted. Tygre noted that there would still be
wrestling matches because there was no way to avoid that and complimented Scott
on a good job; the rest of the commissioners agreed.
Wo0dford said that the First Story Element (Section 8) changes were to the word
replacement from "one story" tofirst story and there was concern for the walk out
access on the first story element from the last meeting. Woodford provided photos
as examples of the first story elements and examples that would n° longer comply.
Language was amended Ail residential buildings shall have a first story street-
facing element the width of Which comprises at least twenty (20) percent of the
building's overall width and the depth which is at least six (6)feet from the wall
the_first-story element is pro/ecting from. A_first-story element may be a porch
~' .... ~:'~* ..... ~ ""~;~;"~ or living space. Accessible space (whether it is a
deck, porch or enclosed area)shall not be allowed Over the first story element,
however this shall not preclude having accessible space over remaining first story
elements on the front facade. Commissioners Haneman, Cohen, Tygre and
Johnson expressed concerns for the options of height for the first story and
requested a decision on the height limit for the first story element. John Rowland
said the definitions seemed to beCome lengthier. The majority of the commisSion
requested section 8 be re-looked at because there was no clear direction frOm staff
or the neighborhood meetings.
Woodford said the change to the Non-Residential Lighting Standards with respects
to outdoor lighting shall be 12feet or less in height unless it meets one of the
.following criteria: *The lighting is fully shielded and the poini light source is not
visible beyond the boundaries of the propertv in which the lot is located; or *The
lighting is otherwise provided in Section 27.575.150(K). Woodford said these
changes would not require all lighting above 12 feet be reviewed by p&Z.
Haneman expressed concern for reflected light on buildings. Johnson voiced
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concern about light pollution, buildings with zero setbacks, and these changes not
accomplishing the lighting goals. Haneman asked about the top parapet lighting on
the Hotel Jerome. Haneman suggested that photos be taken of existing lighting
examples for compliance and non-compliance to be presented at the next meeting
and Johnson requested investigating the possibility of a lighting consultant.
The majority of the commissioners present felt the changes were still in need of
work on the lighting and definition of context portions of this resolution.
MOTION: Ruth Kruger moved to continue the public hearing on the
miscellaneous land use code amendments to September 2, 2003; seconded by
Roger Haneman. APPROVED 7-0.
PUBLIC HEARING:
MAROON CREEK CLUB PUD/SPA AMENDMENT~ CHANGE IN USE
Jasmine Tygre opened the public heanng on the Maroon Creek Club PUD/SPA
change in use. David Hoefer stated that the notice was in order; the commission
could proceed.
James Lindt stated that John Howard represented the applicant, Jim Williams. The
applicant wanted to amend the SPA/PUD as well as a GMQS exemption for a
change in use to allow one of the lodge units at the Maroon Creek Club to add a
kitchen thereby making it a residential dwelling unit. Because it was a combined
application the Planning & Zoning Commission was the recommending body on
all the land use requests to City Council.
Lindt provided the background for the lodge units; the County approved 12 as part
of the Maroon Creek Club Subdivision and PUD in the early 1990's. It was
subsequently annexed into the City in 1996 and a PUD amendment was approved,
which allowed for reduction in the number of lodge units that were in the Maroon
Creek Club; as a condition of approval is was required that no kitchens be allowed
in the lodge units therefore the applicant requested an amendment to that.
Additionally the use of the lodge units was slightly different that the normal city
lodge units, which were required to be available on a short-term basis for rental to
the public at least 6 months of the year but these units were approved as part of the
Pitkin County Code in which there was no such requirement of short-term
availability. Lindt explained that the use of the unit was purchased through a
special membership sold by the Maroon Creek Club called the Millennium
Membership, which cannot require these units to be rented on a short-term basis.
Staff agreed that adding a kitchen would not change the use of the units, in reality,
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because they are not currently rented out. However, staff does not feel that
adding the kitchen would provide a community benefit and did not maintain the
lodging bed base therefore staff could not support the change in use and PUD/SPA
amendment.
John Howard stated that the membership was not a fee simple ownership but a
membership for the occupancy and use of the Maroon Creek Club. The applicant
wanted to combine three of the one-bedroom lodge units into one 3-bedroom unit.
The members of the limited liability company have consented to this change as a
convenience for one of the members as opposed to any interest on their own part.
Howard clarified the original 12 units were reduced to 8 from the original
Pomegranate, which had a reduction in the number of bedrooms but not the square
footage, which was a reduction in the number of lodge rooms. There was a current
building permit allowing the combining of 3 lodge units into one unit further
reducing the lodging units to 6. Howard said that there would not be any change in
use because the units that were available for rent would continue to be rented; the
application was for the addition of the cooking appliance (a stove).
Howard said that the Maroon Creek Club did not operate as a lodge. Howard
stated that he couldn't see mom, dad, the 2 kids and dog in their Chrysler minivan
pulling off to stop at the Maroon Creek Club for one-night; unless you have
business there you probably wouldn't mm into the Maroon Creek Club because
you would realize that you were in the wrong place. Howard said the owner, Mr.
Williams, used the units for his family and the employees of the Texas Company;
there would not be full time residents in these relatively small three bedroom units.
Howard restated that there were not lodge rooms at the Maroon Creek Club with
reference to the general public.
Howard asked that the 1 st condition regarding the request that the Maroon Creek
Club write an annual basis letter reminding the owners that they have the
ability to lease out their units be deleted because the individual members did not
want to be liable for a guest of their unit that was not under the owners control.
Roger Haneman asked how these became lodge units. Lindt replied that after the
Aspen Country Inn became employee housing as part of that there were 12 lodge
allotments left over for the Maroon Creek Club to use. Haneman said the
residential allotments were maxed-out, so GMQS would not be affected by putting
this kitchen in. Lindt replied that GMQS would be affected because it would make
it a multi-residential unit however by obtaining a GMQS exemption for a change in
use, you are exempting one unit and freezes the other 5 units from becoming
residential units. The other unit owners would have to go through the GMQS
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Scoring process in order to change their units. Lin& said that if the Maroon Creek
could require the other Millennium owners to rent out their units, Staff might be
able to support the application because there would be some community
benefit. But the Maroon Creek Club didn't feel that this was a possibility
because of their legal agreement with the Millennium Members, which was
exclusive use of their personal units at any time during the year.
Jack Johnson asked how a building permit was issued prior to a review process.
Lindt responded that it was discussed at a stafflevel and was consistent with the
previous PUD amendment, which allowed the reduction in lodge units as long as
the square footage remained the same. Howard said that the number of bedrooms
was reduced and the number of units was reduced from 12 lodge rooms to 8 while
maintaining the game square footage. Howard said the lodge rooms were allocated
from the Aspen Country Inn, so in the county code they were lodge rooms and
transferred to the developer as lodge rooms; lodge rooms were built not residential
multi-family. Bendon explained that the project was built in the county without a
definition for lodge. Lin& added that the county had no provision for short-term
rental and that was the reason that the units could be sold as they were without that
rental provision. Bendon stated that when the city annexed the project it was
accepted with the county's land use code at the time as well, which traveled with
the project for the life of the project as annexed. Tygre asked if one residential unit
would be deducted from the GMQS quota if this exemption for the change in use
was approved. Bendon replied that was true. Kruger asked if this was a lodge
room because it did not have a kitchen or a cooking appliance. Lin& replied that
was correct.
No public comment.
Eric Cohen noted that this was an example of when a lodge room was not a lodge
room, when it was part of the Maroon Creek Club. This had no affect on anything.
This stops because anything else changing in this PUD would have to go through
growth management; plus there was the anomaly of the acceptance of the county
code upon annexation. Cohen said that the precedent from keeping other owners
from doing the same request would be that the rest of the owners would be
required to go through GMQS because the one exemption was already used, The
next application would have to go through the GMQS process; all the members
agreed on this exemption.
Haneman commented that it went to push for all that you can for a PUD and then
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Johnson said that this could have implications because it was called a lodge room ~,,
but it wasn't a lodge room; these units will never be rented.
Tygre noted there were problems when properties were annexed with prior county
approvals that came with unknown negotiations on the approvals: most PUDs were
carefully negotiated. This kind of change in use may lead to additional
applications in the future.
Lin& noted there was a specific change in use criteria language, which stated that
only one unit, may be created through a change m use.
MOTION: Eric Cohen moved to approve Resolution #18 and recommend
that City Council approve a PUD and SPA amendment and a GMQS
exemption for a change in use to allow for the combined lodge unit (consisting
of lodge units 1, 2, and 3) in the Maroon Creek Club to add a kitchen and
thereby become a multi-family residential dwelling unit, with the following
condition: 1. The lodge unit to be converted to a residential dwelling unit shall be upgraded to
meet the 1998 ANSI Type B adaptable clearance requirements relating to the handicap accessibility
of the bathroom. Seconded by Ruth Kruger. Roll call vote: Johnson, no;
Haneman, yes; Kruger, no; Rowland, yes; Skadron, yes; Cohen, yes; Tygre, no.
APPROVED 4-3.
Hoefer stated that for the record this motion included the removal of the condition
as requested by the applicant for the annual basis letter regarding the rental of their
units.
PUBLIC HEARING:
ASPEN HIGHLANDS VILLAGE PUD AMENDMENT - SIGNAGE
Jasmine Tygre opened the public hearing on the Aspen Highlands Village Sign
Amendment. Ruth Kruger and Steve Skadron recused themselves. David Hoefer
stated that proof of notice was provided.
Sarah Oates noted that this was a PUD amendment for another annexed property,
Aspen Highlands Village. Oates distributed the currer~t Aspen Highlands sign
code regulations (Exhibit D), which was developed in 2000 by Hines Highlands
and the Master Homeowners Association. Oates said that the Highlands developed
their sign code about the time that they were being annexed and were told that it
didn't meet the City of Aspen's sign code regulations. Staffrecommends
approval. Oates said that the Village core would have the only impact: there were
Village regulations as they relate to real estate signs for residential properties,
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lettering but was particularly orientated to the Village core. Oates stated that this
was a P&Z approval only.
Deborah Prince, representative of the Aspen Highlands Village Association, said
there were very strict regulations on the neon signs, which would be very artist
signs, Oates commented that there was a design review board for the retail
association to review the signage and would then refer to Sarah Oates to make sure
the sign meets the dimensional requirements.
Jack Johnson asked what the AHV was. Prince replied that it was the Aspen
Highland Village Association, which oversees the Village as a whole. Johnson
asked if the affordable housing residents were members of this association and the
number of repreSentatives serving on the board; who was speaking for the people
not the retailers. Prince replied that they were; there was a board. Bob Daniel,
representative for Hines, explained the association structure as the master
association with several sub, associations within the master association. Daniel
said there were sub-associations for all the condominium units, the affordable
housing units that were not part of the Village core, townhome association, which
is a rather complex entity. Daniel said that currently the association was still under
~,, declaring control pursuant to the regulations of the Colorado Common Interest
Ownership Act with 4 Hines appointees. Daniel said for the Aspen Highlands
Village water servtce agreement required annexation into the city. The City of
Aspen must adopt the zoning and entitlement established for Aspen Highlands
Village due to the Pitkin County Entitlement process so there would not be any
non-conforming uses in the city by the city aunexmg a county project Daniel said
there were no signage regulations in the county that were applicable to Aspen
Highlands Village and it was merely an oversight that at the time of annexation
that the PUD amendment was not incorporated into these signage guidelines.
Johnson asked who made up the design review board. Daniel responded there
were 3 architects (1 an affordable housing unit owner and 2 professional architects
from the community) and Gary Beach to review drainage and water issues; the
master association board appointed these board members.
Johnson noted the differences between the Aspen Highlands Signage Regulations
and the City of Aspen Code and asked why flags were not allowed. Prince said
that there were residents that lived above the commercial core spaces and there
would be difficulty in the scrutiny in what was tasteful and not tasteful.
Eric Cohen asked if there was only one real estate sign allowed per property.
Oates replied that was true, page 8 of 10 of the guidelines.
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Tygre noted that the signs that were shown in the Highlands Signage Booklet were
all very western and old western in style; how does that fit in with neon and where
would the neon signs be located. Prince answered that they were an eclectic
western and the neon was a generalization of not allowing more than 3 neon signs.
Public Comments: Adam Gillespie stated that he represented a group of
homeowners (confidentially) that were concerned with yard sale signs and for sale
signs On cars; they wanted the signs to be restricted to commercial use only.
Oates said that signs on parked vehicles was addressed on page 9 of 10.
MOTION: Eric Cohen moved to approve Resolution #20, series 2003,
approving a PUD amendment to the Aspen Highlands Village PUD to adopt a
sign code for Aspen Highlands Village, attached at "Exhibit B'? included the
amendments on page 6 of 10 to strike the last sentence under WallSigns; page
2 of 10 to strike the second sentence on Flags. Seconded by Roger Haneman.
Roll call vote: Johnson, no; Haneman, no; Rowland, no; Cohen, yes; Tygre,
no. DENIED 4-1.
Disscussion: Tygre stated that Aspen Highlands was a separate entity but
that she could not approve neon signs, especially with light pollution. Haneman ,~,
agreed. Johnson said that he couldn't support the sign code because this
amendment added another layer of bureaucracy and the sub-associations would be
judged by a un-elected board appointed by a corporation; he objected to the quasi-
governmental agencies creating and making laws that were different from
everybody else's.
Meeting adjourned at 7:10 p.m.
v~'/~hckie Loth~a{t, Deputy City Clerk
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