HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19970108 ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION JAN. 8, 1997
Meeting was called to order by chairman Jake Vickery with Roger Moyer,
Melanie Roschko, Susan Dodington, Suzannah Reid and Mark Onorofski
present. Sven Alstrom was excused.
633 W. MAIN - MINOR DEVELOPMENT
Amy Amidon, Planner stated that the house has functioned as a residence and
is now being converted into an office space. A few changes proposed effect
the outside of the building in order to make the office space more usable.
Skylights are proposed on the east and west side of the roof. The existing
front door is to be replaced with a transom and a window added on the north.
A railing is also being proposed for the porch. The applicant will try to
replicate the front door and eliminate the transom which is not an original
element. Staff is recommending against adding the window because it is on
the primary facade. Staff is also recommending against the baluster. Staff
recommends the change in the front door and that they should consider
putting the original second door back in (the former entry of the parlor) and
that they install the skylights and not do the railing.
Joseph Edwards represented the owner and stated that no railing existed and
would follow staffs recommendation of not installing a railing. The skylights
bring light into the stairs and entry foyer.
Mark inquired about the evergreen and recommended that the applicant get a
Parks Department report.
MOTION: Roger moved to approve the minor development application for
633 W. Main with the following conditions:
1) That the applicant may replace the front door with a front door that is
similar to the original as shown in the new drawing.
2) A transom would not be added.
3) No window on the north facade.
4) Skylights' may be added as long as they are flush with the roof and dark
in color to blend with the roof
5) No railing added as it did not exist historically.
second by Susan.
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Mark stated that skylights have a four inch curve.
Joseph Edwards stated that they are looking at Velex type skylight and not
the bubble type.
Mark asked if the skylights would be vented?
Joseph stated yes.
MOTION passed 6-0. Jake stated that a new front elevation needs' to be
presented to Staff fbr the records.
17 QUEEN STREET - HISTORIC LANDMARK LOT SPLIT
Jake stepped down.
Roger chaired.
Assistant City Attorney David Hoefer stated that the affidavit of proof of
notice has been presented and is adequate and HPC has the jurisdiction to
proceed.
Roger opened the public hearing.
Public asked for an explanation.
Amy stated that a code amendment in the R-6 allows for a GMQS exemption
for lot splits and allows for a non-conforming minimum lot size so that little
houses can be on smaller lots and their additions can be a separate structure
and sold off separately. On the parcel in question a new house could be built
down the hill.
MOTION: Roger moved to table 17 Queen Street and continue the public
hearing to danuary 22nd; second by Mark. All in favor, motion carried.
307 S. CLEVELAND - WORKSESSION
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Glenn Rappaport, architect for the project stated that the project involves
three cabins. The cabins are on the inventory but not landmarked. The
cabins were built in 1948, 50 and 52. The applicant desires to keep the
cabins unattached. Presently a duplex is allowed on this property which is
zoned RMF and that could occur in the center of the parcel. The problem
with keeping all the cabins intact is that the applicant would have to mitigate
approximately 11 parking spaces. One of the ideas would be to have a cabin
turn into a car port and retain as much of the structure as possible and keep
the small scale and if that is done 7 parking spaces could be located along the
alley.
Roger asked how many parking spaces are being used presently.
Glenn stated six cars are on the property.
Amy stated that HPC could waive the parking but P&Z is against it as it is a
dense neighborhood.
Roger stated that he does not understand how anyone could consider taking
someone's housing away for parking.
Glenn stated that only one cabin would be lost.
Roger stated that he recommends keeping all the cabins and recommends
landmark designation.
Jake stated that he would support anything to keep the cabins as they are.
Susan asked what the distance would be between the buildings if the duplex
were built.
Glenn stated that ten feet would exist around the building. It would be a
descent size walkway.
Susan stated that she is in favor of keeping the cottages the way they are and
try to waive the parking.
Suzannah stated that she has nothing additional to offer without seeing a
presentation.
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Melanie stated that she has concerns waiving all the parking due to the dense
area. She would recommend a few on-site parking spaces. She would like to
see innovative architecture of the duplex to tie into the existing buildings.
Mark stated that he agrees with Melanie and the parking should not be over
looked.
Jake asked about joining things together.
Glenn stated if they touch the cabins they have to deal with the new codes.
939 E. COOPER - FINAL UNIT E
Jake stepped down.
Amy stated that she is recommending tabling. What was brought forward is
identical in footprint and FAR height as was approved at conceptual. The
design proposed is a departure from conceptual and from the project as a
whole. Particularly the change in the roof form, flatening of the wall surfaces
and the windows which now are casement as opposed to double hung. It is
recommended that the applicant look at the Aspen vernacular that was
brought up in the rest of the project.
Roger stated that he does not see this as a final application and that it is a
great departure from conceptual.
Amy stated that she worked with Carol Ferrino and apparently she needed
more clarity. The drawings are 1/8th instead of quarter scale and materials
are not presented.
Nell Ross, owner stated that he asked Carol to depart from conceptual. He
never saw the conceptual drawings. He asked Carol to maintain simplicity of
design, maintain compatibility and spirit faithful to Victorian styles and
maintain an economy of price RO deed restricted. The roof is asphalt shingle
and double gabled and the siding is a board and batten. Amy's memo stated
that there is significant changes in massing. He feels that the term Victorian
is infinite and in terms of the spirit he tried to do a contemporary home but
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Victorian in spirit and economically feasible. Upon research Victorians were
much simpler in style in terms of ornate detail. Standard #2 states that the
proposed development reflects and is consistent with the character of the
neighborhood. HPC was in favor of the project because of the preservation
of two historic structures. He feels that only one structure was preserved
visually. Standard #3 states that the pattern of dividing the buildings into
small components is found in historic buildings and he feels that is true with
ornate buildings but with simpler building they are or are not. The roof
design with gables were done because of economics. In summary when the
original design was done economics did not come into play. He feels A,B,D
are somewhat inconsistent of themselves.
Melanie stated in regard to unit A not being retained there were major
elements that occurred; siding was taken off that should not have been so the
original intent, if it had been followed, would be a more historic structure than
what is up there now. What is there now was not approved.
MOTION: Mark moved to table final approval for 939 E. Cooper Unit E;
second by Melanie. All in favor, motion carried.
Suzannah stated in terms of the great departure if you look at the conceptual
drawings regardless of the roof shapes there is a lot going on that minimizes
the mass of the building; the porch on the west and the step back on the
North. Because it is so close to the adjacent buildings those elements become
very important in getting light into the narrow areas. The windows need to
be looked at and get away from the casement window style.
Susan stated she would like a floor plan included at the next meeting. She
stated that she has problems visualizing the drawings presented specifically
with the use of materials and how it will look.
Melanie stated that she would prefer that the applicant study the conceptual
application. There is no definition and it needs restudied.
Nell stated that he changed the design due to cost.
Mark stated that he feels the design does not represent clearly what the intent
is. A complete package should be submitted at the next meeting.
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Roger stated that Aspen has a Victorian style and it is very recognizable.
Aspen mining Victorian first had cabins, then money came along and then the
cabin was painted and then additions added which came out of catalogues.
Additions were shipped from the East. He stated that he would encourage the
applicant to look at the whole project. A landscape plan should be
incorporated into the whole project. A model is available which was
presented and should be looked at and there are drawings from the other
homes. He would recommend to scale drawings at the next meeting so that
the scale shows the dimensions of the windows, trim and delineation of the
siding including the width, type etc. One distracting element is the windows.
This is a village within a village. The fenestration should blend with
Victorian not be a departure from. Entrances were meant to be of human
scale and porches are encouraged. Breaking up of the mass so that there is
not just one roof line is encouraged. In looking at the drawings the breaking
up with a strange band doesn't delineate the purpose. What is the foundation,
stone, rock cement etc. A large huge structure could have been built here and
HPC spent numerous hours on the little village.
MOTION: Melanie moved to adjourn; second by Susan. All in favor,
motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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633 W. MAIN - MINOR DEVELOPMENT ...................................................................... 1
17 QUEEN STREET - HISTORIC LANDMARK LOT SPLIT .............................................. 2
307 S. CLEVELAND - WORKSESSION .......................................................................... 2
939 E. COOPER - FINAL UNIT E ................................................................................. 4
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