HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19970813 ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF AUG. 13~ 1997
Chair-person Suzannah Reid called the meeting to order with Mary Hirsch,
Melanie Roschko, Jeffrey Halferty, Roger Moyer and Susan Dodington
present. The Commission welcomed new member Heidi Friedland. Excused
were Gilbert Sanchez and Mark Onorofski.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Mary Hirsch relayed to the Commission that two more trees have been lost at
303 E. Main and it is an unfortunate situation. Those trees needed more
fertilizer and more water and a concerted effort should have been made to
retain those trees. The house has had extraordinary changes.
Amy Amidon, Planner stated that an agreement was signed between the
owner and the city regarding the trees on the city right-of-way and their
replacement.
Melanie stated that it would be very difficult to get a large root ball into the
site of the dying trees due to the constraints.
Jeffrey stated at the Paepcke house a year before the excavation a slip/form
plyboard was placed into the ground so the roots would move and grow to
the side. This process prevents roots from being severed during excavation.
That process takes 1 1/2 years.
MOTION: Roger moved to add 132 144. Main and 411 E. Hopkins to the
agenda; second by Susan..411 in favor, motion carried.
210 S. GALENA 510 E. HYMAN - ELK'S BUILDING- MINOR
Amy Amidon, planner stated that the presentation is for the development of
the Elk's third lot which is basically the alley/trash/parking area. They
propose to do a park in the vicinity of the elevator and some off street parking
and to move the compactor. Bike racks would be added and they are
proposing to do some improvements to the sidewalk. Staff is recommending
delaying the sidewalk as the DEPP Committee is doing a study as to whether
sidewalks should be wider in the core. Staff recommended approval with one
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condition; more information about the flower pots that are to be extended
from the historic Elk's building.
Larry Yaw, architect presented. The proposal is to re-create and enhance the
entry and in general present a better face to the streetscape. Snow melting the
sidewalk area is in the plan. They would like to create seating within the
Elk's property, wall off the alley and place a detached bike rack for ten bikes
off the west wall of the Mason Morse Bldg. A nine foot wall would be
proposed between the two buildings running east and west separating the
parking/trash area. A free standing planter would be proposed and not
attached to the east wall. The trees proposed would be high canopy trees to
provide shade to those sitting on the benches. Three down lights/planters are
proposed for the historic east wall of the Elks bldg. They would be attached
through the mortar.
Mike Haman, trustee stated that the nine foot wall as indicated on the plans
was to separate the seating area like a room and it would cover the top of city
hall and you would only see Red Mountain. Some trustees liked the five foot
wall as it keeps the area open to the back of the building and is more
pedestrian friendly and you would see the dormers and roof of City Hall plus
Red Mountain.
Commissioners discussed the proposed brick pattern and sandstone.
They also had concern about the planter's closeness to the historic east wall.
There was concern about moisture and if a water proof membrane would be
used on the interior of the planter and the appearance of the planter against
the historic wall. Other concerns were the wiring of the lights/planters into
the historic wall. All the commissioners felt the proposed development would
improve the site.
Larry Yaw responded that the wiring would be coming through from the
inside of the building out to the existing conduit. The existing conduit would
be replaced and painted out.
Susan stated that she had concerns about bolts being placed into the historic
wall. People should see the wall as old and possibly crumbling as they are
historic walls. She also felt the lower wall was more pedestrian friendly as
opposed to views being blocked off.
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Heidi had concerns about the planter obscuring the historic wall. She also
stated that the cityscape is important and she is in favor of the lower wall.
Melanie had concerns about the planter and its closeness to the historic wall
during harsh weather. She also indicated that the lower wall would be more
pedestrian friendly and in scale with the entire project.
Jeffrey indicated that the lower wall would be safer in the evenings but either
wall would be acceptable. He felt design specifications should be provided
on the proposed light/planter.
Mary had no problem with the free standing planter but is opposed to the
planter/light attaching to the historic building.
Roger likes the ~room effect" of the design with the proposed nine foot wall.
The lights on the east wall will improve the area. The planter with something
in front of it creates an inner play of texture, color and feeling.
Suzannah indicated that the detail of the lights/planters should be provided.
She also had concern about the planter against the historic wall. She has
mixed feelings about the height of the wall.
MOTION: Roger moved to approve the site plan changes at 210 S. Galena -
510 E. Hyman Ave. Improvements' in the City right-of-way must be delayed
until final comments' are received from the DEPP committee and a sample
provided to Staff and monitor with the following conditions:
1) The design for the planter and how it fits on the east facing wall be
submitted to Staff and Monitor for final approval. A revised drawing as
presented tonight be submitted to staff and entered as exhibit F1 to the
records'.
2) The design of the light/planter be submitted to staff and monitor for final
approval. Motion was second by Melanie. Motion carried 4-3.
Yes vote: Heidi, defJ7 Suzannah, Roger.
No vote: Mary, Susan, Melanie.
Roger stated that he did not address the idea put forth of a five foot wall. The
wall presented is nine feet.
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Mary informed the applicant that he should make a decision with the trustees
and come back to the board and present the changes at the next regular
meeting.
Heidi thought the proposal to have openings in the upper portion of the wall
was a desired element.
Melanie will be the monitor for the Elk's Building.
130 S. GALENA - CITY HALL - MINOR DEVELOPMENT
Amy Amidon, planner: The proposal is for two skylights on the north
elevation to provide better light and ventilation to the offices on the third floor
of city hall. The skylights would be flat against the roof. All mechanical
equipment should be painted out.
Stan Clauson, Community Development Director indicated that the windows
proposed would be velux windows that are hinged at the top. A mechanical
ventilation system is being proposed for city hall but would not take place for
another two years.
Amy added that interior remodeling is also being done and the skylights might
have to shift slightly toward Galena Street depending on where the separation
walls are placed. A monitor should be assigned to the project.
MOTION: Mary moved that HPC approve the minor development proposal
for 130 S. Galena for the two skylights' as submitted with the condition that
the mechanical equipment on the roof be painted in a dark color that
compliments' the historic building; second by Roger..411 in favor, motion
carried.
Heidi is the monitor for City Hall.
303 E. MAIN STREET -AMENDMENTS
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Amy Amidon, planner informed the HPC that this project was brought before
the HPC June 25th and at that time amendments to the front that faces Main
Street were discussed. The issue of the entry door was brought up and it was
denied to relocate the door from the comer onto the historic building. HPC
directed the applicant to confirm whether or not the Building Dept. would
accept the comer entrance. Staff confirmed that the comer entry is an
accessible entry for someone who is disabled. The applicant is back as they
still do not find it as the ideal entrance. Staff conveyed to the applicant that it
is not HPC's desire to create an entry that is not useful to people; however,
HPC was represented that this was a good way to enter the building and
approved the project and now HPC is being asked to take an additional
impact onto the historic building and Staff has compatibility concerns. The
restaurant space could be revised so that it does work inside and out.
Representatives: Clint Watkins, architect for Ted Guy and Associates.
Jeff Kline, tenant for the restaurant presented.
Clint indicated that the proposed door which is ADA approved is not up to
standards with some electric chairs. They consulted with several individuals
who use the newer chairs which are 60 inches wide as opposed to the ADA
regulation of 54 inches. If the door was centered onto the historic building it
would make an easier access to the elevator for a handicapped person
(handicapped individual was present to demonstrate). The three story
addition in the back makes a more impact on the historic building than a door.
Roger inquired about the interior space and dimension of the hall which is 51
inches wide and a wheel chair couldn't fit down the hall anyway but the blue
prints were not available to confirm at the meeting.
Jeffrey indicated that the brick wall could change to a veneer in order to get
the turning radius needed.
The commissioners addressed the interior space at length and it was
determined that revisions to the interior space could address the handicapped
access issue and the door. HPC ts charge is to maintain the historical
integrity of the building and a compromise in the interior space could
accomplish what is needed.
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Suzannah stated that the board would welcome a discussion and revision of
the plans and it is a concern as the HPC does not want a building that is
unsafe or unpleasant but at the same time they are charged to protect this
historic building.
Jeff Kline, restaurant owner respected HPC's view and indicated that if he
would have been involved earlier on the project some appropriate changes
could have been made to the plans.
Assistant City Attorney David Hoefer stated that a motion was not necessary
as the request was dropped.
132 W. MAIN
Susan stepped down.
Ron Robertson presented the proposal for a lightwell on the west elevation of
132 W. Main in order to provide light into the space.
Roger asked about the design of the light well.
Ron stated that a steel grate would be placed over the lightwell which would
be flat and low on the grass. The lightwell would not be used for egress only
for lighting up the basement.
Roger stated that HPC should have a worksession on different lightwell
designs in the near future.
MOTION: Mary moved to approve the request for the lightwell on the west
side at 132 W. Main after any setback issues have been settled as submitted.
There were two exhibits'. Motion was second by Roger. All in favor, motion
carried 6-0.
403 E. HOPKINS
Chris Flacke, architect presented.
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The proposal is to change the windows in the Caribou Alley for a new store
called Fende. The proposal is to eliminate a door in the store front and move
the mullions around.
MOTION: Roger moved to approve the revisions to the Caribou Alley at
403 E. Hopkins as submitted as exhibit I; second by Mary. All in favor,
motion carried.
Suzannah moved to adjourn the meeting; second by Mary. All in favor,
motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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210 S. GALENA 510 E. HYMAN - ELK'S BUILDING - MINOR ..................................................... 1
130 S. GALENA - CITY HALL - MINOR DEVELOPMENT ............................................................. 4
303 E. MAIN STREET - AMENDMENTS .......................................................................................... 4
132 W. MAIN ......................................................................................................................................... 6
403 E. HOPKINS .................................................................................................................................... 6
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