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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.20040414ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF APRIl, 14, 2004 334 W. HALLAM - FINAL REVIEW- PUBLIC HEARING .................................................................. 1 811-819 E. HOPKINS - FINAL DEVELOPMENT - PUBLIC HEARING ............................................. 5 WORKSESSION - NO MINUTES ............................................................. . ................................................. 6 558 WALNUT STREET ........................ . ....................................................................................................... 6 7 ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF APRIl, 14, 2004 Chairperson, Jeffrey Halferty called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. Commissioners in attendance: Derek Skalko, Valerie Alexander and Michael Hoffman. Sarah Broughton was excused. Staff'present: Amy Guthrie, Historic Preservation Planner Kathy Strickland, Chief Deputy City Clerk Certificate of No Negative Effect issued fo~ the Conundrum space, which is being taken over by a bank. Disclosure: Derek and Jeffrey Will recuse themselves on 233 W. Main Valerie will recuse herself on 811 - 819 E. Hopkins MOTION: Derek moved to approve the minutes of March 24, 2004; second by Valerie. All in favor, motion carried. 334 W. HALLAM - FINAL REVIEW - PUBLIC HEARING Affidavit of posting was entered in the land use records as Exhibit I. Sworn in: Bill Poss, Hayden Connor, Stephen Holly Amy stated at the last meeting HPC approved the revisions to the roofing so that it tucks back into the building so that there is very little damage to the historic structure. One of the recommendations is to restudy the gas fireplace vent, which is toward the front of the house. Normally we do not allow direct vents to come out of the wall surface, we prefer them to go through the roof which is what they are doing but it is very close to the front edge of the roof line. Regarding the landscape there is a deciduous tree right on the west side of the house in front of a window and staff is concerned that the tree will block the view of the historic house. Staff is asking for a clarification that they do not alter the historic ditch that runs along the side of the property, which is on the City right2of-way. In the past people of altered the ditch and planted flowers etc. There is a concern about the metal fence that is proposed to go around the property. We will also need to see a sample of the roof material and we need clarification on the light fixtures, some of which might not comply with the City lighting code. ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF APRIl, 14~ 2004 The overall project is great. Bill said the tree is probably a crab apple and is located on the west elevation right in front of the blank space on the wall. It does not block any windows and they will make sure they leave enough room for the canopy. The landsCape plans is very simple. With regard to the fence the intent is to have a transparent fence. It needs to be high enough to keep the dogs in. The fence can be worked out with staff and monitor. A picket fence would be more maintenance. Bill stated that he would present some samples to the staff and monitor. Bill said the existing lighting will be used and they will have to frost some of the globes in order to comply with the existing lighting code. A structural report, storyboard and demolition plan will be submitted to staff before the building permit is submitted. There is one major change; the storage shed that is on part of the back porch. It is existing and the request is to restore the old part of the addition with the old materials and restore and keep the newer added addition. The final drawings do not indicate retaining the shed but the model does. Stephen Holly said the roof vent on the south elevation will be a simple stack and painted out so that it blends and it can be moved back. Questions: Derek asked if the crabapple would have any degradation to the foundation if it gets too close. Valerie explained if it is a crabapple that particular tree does not have aggressive roots. Michael asked Amy if she was comfortable with the fence design. Amy's concern is that metal fences whether they are simple or not, do something to the character of the property that doesn't fit in a very simple environment. The historic fences that we see in pictures were wood, a very skinny picket. Metal fences were not common at all historically and this is such a pristine property and on the national register. Bill said they are comfortable to work with staff and monitor on the fence. ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF APRIl, 14, 2004 Stephen explained the porch/shed situation. The porch is historic and attached to the porch is a shed that has been abutted to it. Amy said the porch has columns as comer boards that can be pulled off. Michael asked for clarification what was approved at conceptual. Bill said the porch is on the Sanborn map and when they inspected the porch/shed area they found old siding and new studs on the shed area. It appeared that they dismantled what was there and rebuilt it with old siding and new studs. They agreed to rebuild the porch and keep the old siding. At conceptual the storage element was not proposed. In reviewing the application the owner decided he needed the storage area so they are requesting to keep the storage area. The porch and shed will be rebuilt as it is'now. Valerie stated that HPC also talked about removing the porch column at conceptual. Bill said they would agree to remove the column. Stephen addressed the materials. Right now there is a four-inch lap siding. They intend to keep the four-inch profile but go to a lap siding with a shadow line so that when you look at the house from the street you will be able to differentiate from the two time periods. Jeffrey asked if the fireplace stack on the south elevation could be moved back further. Stephen said he would look into that request. Jeffrey also asked if there was any site lighting for the sidewalk or pathway illumination? Bill said they are only keeping the existing lighting. Chairperson Jeffrey Halferty opened and closed the public hearing. Comments: Derek said he is excited about the amount of effort that is going into this restoration. He also thanked the applicant for the clarity in their drawings and detailing. Valerie said she is comfortable with going through some of the smaller revisions with Staff and monitor. She would have preferred that the addition for the storage not been kept. Our guidelines talk about not ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF APRIIJ 14~ 200a enclosing a porch and it is enclosing the southern end of the porch. A real clear differentiation of materials should be incorporated. A suggestion would be to recess the storage shed back from the facade of the porch in order to get a shadow line so it doesn't feel like a closure on the end of the porch. The landscape plan works well with its simplicity. Michael said he supports the resolution with the changes the applicant has agreed to which are to move the southern most chimneystack farther from the front of the building and delete condition #8. He also feels the fence should be redesign to be a wooden fence and to be approved by staff and monitor. Jeffrey also supported the changes that Michael stated. The material palates are consistent with our guidelines. MOTION.. Valerie moved to approve Resolution #13, 2004 for 334 ~. Hallam for final approval with the following revisions: Omitting condition ~8. Modify condition #7 to state that the vent will be moved back. Adding condition #21 that allows the applicant to keep the storage shed and the materials to be approved by staff and monitor Motion second by Derek. Discussion: Michael stated he would like the board to make a decision whether the fence should be wood. Jeffrey said he would not want to limit the design. Michael said the fence should be more consistent with the pattern from the 1800's. He would not want a high style fence. Valerie said we could look at the design and determine if the fence design is appropriate. Motion carried 4-0. VOTE.. Yes, Michael Derek Valerie, deffrey 4 ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF APRIl. 14, 200a 811-819 E. HOPKINS - FINAL DEVELOPMENT- PUBLIC HEARING Sworn in: Mitch Haas, Rally Dupps Valerie recused herself. Amy presented the overview of the project. Conceptual was granted for the relocation of both of the historic cottages on the property. They are both to be restored and the non-historic additions stripped off. There will be a new house on the west and southern boundaries of the south. Staffrecommends approval. There is a spruce tree in the landscaping that is close to the 819 E. Hopkins house and the concern is that it will block views of the historic house. We need clarification as to what is happening with the shed. The shed has been viewed as contributing. The proposal was to move it and turn' it into a garage. The architect has concerns about its structural integrity. They would like to dismantle and reconstruct the shed but this meeting was not public noticed for that. Staff's recommendation is to have the architect and monitor go to the site and determine what is realistic and what is not in terms of preserving the building. Rally said the roofing materials are cut cedar shakes. Some of the shallower roofs are your standing metal seams. Chairperson Jeffrey Halferty opened and closed the public hearing. Michael said he is uncomfortable asserting jurisdiction over something that we can't say is historic, the shed. Derek said it seems that the applicant has intentions of working with the shed. Derek offered to help with the disassembling and reassembling of the shed. Derek said he is in support of this project. The massing has been reduced 10% to 15% from the original study. The project is fitting for the neighborhood and complies with the guidelines. Jeffrey said he has confidence in the house mover. They brace the building inside before moving it. He also agrees with Michael's concern about subjective detailing put onto the shed. 5 ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF APRIl', 14~ 2004 Amy said she is concerned about the shed. She feels the skin-should not be taken off and put onto a new building. It should be either moved or let them demolish it. The shed is on the alley and has all of the typical natures of an out building at the turn of the century. Mitch said it is old but we are not sure it is original to the site. His concern is whether the shed can withstand being moved. Amy said regarding condition #6 staff and monitor should determine whether or not the shed could be moved as an intact building. The shed will have a garage door and there is one window being proposed. MOTION: Michael moved to approve Resolution #14, 2004' with the following amendments: Condition #6 Staff and monitor shall determine whether or not the shed can be moved as an intact building. Condition #7 The location of the blue spruce trees on the west side of 819 E. Hopkins is of concern and should be reviewed by staff and monitor. Motion second by Derek. 2t ll in favor, motion carried. Yes vote: Derek, Michael, Jeffrey WORKSESSION - NO MINUTES 558 WALNUT STREET MOTION: Jeffrey moved to adjourn; second by Derek. All in favor, motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 7:00 p.m. Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk 6