HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19980527ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF
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Meeting was called to order at 5:00 p.m. by chairperson Suzannah Reid.
Present were Roger Moyer, Gilbert Sanchez, Susan Dodington, Melanie
Roschko, Heidi Friedland and Jeffrey Halferty. Mary Hirsch was excused.
Suzannah Reid relayed to Staff that No Problem Joe's property is
deteriorating.
303 E. MAIN - Doorway at back of the porch
Jeffrey stepped down.
Suzannah stated she did a site visit to the property to review the doorway at
the back of the porch that the owners were requested to reinstall. Stephen
Kanipe, building inspector relayed what the nature of the door would have to
be in terms of being handicapped accessible.
They need to have an automatic opener/closer on the door which would
involve a push plate on the outside and inside to operate the door. In order to
have the detail show the wall would be visible through the window on the
side of the porch.
Suzannah stated the reasonable solution would be to allow them to not do the
doorway but to finish out the inside with siding on the back of the porch wall
and on the Bacchus door side so it will look like finished space and to change
out the Bacchus door to a wooden door. This area is one of the few areas
that is original to the house.
Roger inquired about the other issues such as the planter designs.
Staff stated they would draft a resolution for the next meeting regarding the
outstanding issues and recommended HPC just address the issue about the
doorway. The monitor needs to sit down and address the outstanding issues
and then a letter will be drafted to the applicant.
MOTION: Gilbert moved to allow the existing opening at the back porch to
continue to exist based on the following conditions:
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0 That the interior of the porch befinished with wood siding to match the
existing Jn order for Jt to look ]Jke an exterior space.
2) That the Bacchus door be replaced with a door to be approved by the
monitors.
3) That the trim around the opening be restored to a condition to be
reviewed and approved by monitor.
Motion second by Melanie. All in favor, motion carried 6-0.
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107 S. MILL - ELLI'S BUILDING- ZONA
Sven Alstrom was sworn in.
Mitch Haas, planner relayed that the proposal is to swap the locations of the
door with one of the store front windows to utilize the interior space. The
new doorway would have transom windows above it that would match the
existing windows above the storefront windows.
Sven Alstrom, architect for the project explained that all the awnings on the
building will be replaced eventually and they are requesting the first one.
Melanie did a site visit and relayed that the two windows are set back further
from the center post and the door and existing window are at the front. She
asked if both could be set the same.
Sven stated since both were being moved he could set them both all at the
same plane.
He also relayed that the owners want charcoal gray or black awnings. The
awnings will all be the same on the building but all will not have signage.
MOTION: Melanie moved to approve the proposed changes to 107 S. Mill
St. EIIi's building, Zona stare front with the following conditions:
0 Set new windows and door at the same plane as adjacent existing
windows and the final alignment must be approved by staff and monitor.
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2) The window trim, mullions and transom windows shall match those of the
existing windows.
3) The color and material of the proposed awning(s) shall be reviewed and
approved by the assigned HPC monitor and Community Development staff
4) All material representations made by the applicant in this application and
during public hearings all be adhered to and shall be considered conditions
of approval, unless otherwise amended by a decision-making body having
the authority to do so. Motion second by Heidi. All in favor, motion
carried 7- O.
214 E. BLEEKER - HISTORIC LOT SPLIT - PH
Affidavit of posting presented - Exhibit I
Sworn in were Gretchen Greenwood, architect
Joan Lang, neighbor
Ramona Markalunas
Franz Berko
Bill Light
Mitch Haas, planner stated that the gross square footage is 11,963 square feet
and the request is to divide one parcel of 5,963 square feet and another parcel
of 6,000 square feet. The smaller parcel contains the historic structure. The
1,913 square feet of floor area would be allotted to the lot with the historic
house with the potential of the 500 square foot bonus if granted at final
development review by HPC. The larger parcel would have a base floor area
of 2,344 square feet. There is an existing pool on the larger lot.
Gretchen gave an overview of the project for the benefit of the neighbors
present. The lot has a Victorian house on it and the owners have chosen to
subdivide the lot. The historic lot split was adopted so that you can create
two lots with two small houses on one parcel. The allowable size that you
can build on the two parcels together is the size of a duplex. The idea is to
preserve the Victorian house and prevent the concept of a large addition or
duplex onto it. Without the lot split they could quadruple the size. With the
lot split the FAR go to the vacant lot in order to preserve the small Victorian
house which is presently 1,800 square feet. The new house would be deed
restricted to 2400 square foot house which is consistent with the Victorians in
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the neighborhood. The ordinance allows small houses to be in scale with
each other. The Victorian would be limited to a 1900 square foot house.
They have an approval to move the out building to the new lot.
Bill Light, neighbor endorsed the proposal after clarifications were made.
Ramona inquired about the FAR for the historic house.
Mitch stated that the allowable is 1913 square feet with the potential for the
500 square foot bonus at final development.
The board relayed that the proposal meets the goals on what lot splits are all
about, restricting the masses.
MOTION: Roger moved to forward to City Council a recommendation to
approve the historic landmark lot split for 214 E. Bleeker Street with the
following conditions:
1. A subdivision plat and subdivision exemption agreement shall be reviewed and approved by
the Community Development and Engineering Departments' and recorded in the office of the
Pitkin County clerk and recorder within one hundred eighty (180) days of final approval by
City Council. Failure to record the plat and subdivision exemption agreement within the
specified time limit shall render the plat invalid and reconsideration of the plat by City
Council will be required for a showing of good cause. As a minimum, the subdivision plat
shall:
a. Meet the requirements' of Section 26.88.040(D)(2)(a) of the Aspen Municipal Code;
b. Contain a plat note stating that development of the new/easterly lot (Lot A)
created by the lot split shall be required to mitigate for affordable housing
pursuant to Section 26.100. 050(A)(2)(c) of the Municipal Code;
c. Contain a plat note stating that the lots' contained therein shah be prohibited from
applying for further subdivision and any development of the lots' will comply with
the applicable provisions of the Land Use Code in effect at the time of
application.
d. The two lots' created by this lot split shah have a total allowable base FAR, on
both lots' combined, equal to 4,257 square feet of floor area prior to consideration
of potentially applicable lot area reductions (i. e., slopes, access easements', etc.).
The applicant shall verify with the City Zoning Officer the total allowable FAR on
each lot, taking into account any and aH applicable lot area reductions. The
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property shall be subdivided into one parcel (the westerly parcel, Lot B) of 5,963
square feet and a second parcel (the easterly parcel, Lot A) of 6, 000 square feet.
Provided it is found by the Zoning Officer that no lot area reductions are
required, the maximum allowable FAR on the westerly parcel (Lot B) wouM be
1,913 square feet of floor area (plus the potential for a 500 square foot floor area
bonus if granted by the HPC), and 2, 344 square feet of floor area on the easterly
parcel (Lot A). The information verified by the City Zoning Officer shall be
included on the plat, as a plat note.
e. Contain a plat note stating that any setback nonconformity's created by the new
lot line shall be eliminated upon redevelopment or further development, as may
be applicable, of either of the two lots'.
2. As a minimum, the subdivision exemption agreement shah include the elements'
outlined in Section 26.88.050 of the Aspen Municipal Code, and shall meet the
recording and timing requirements' described in Section 26. 88. 030(A) (2) (e).
3. Prior to issuance ora Certificate of Occupancy on either lot, the applicant shall sign
a sidewalk, curb and gutter construction agreement andpay the applicable recording
fees.
4. All material representations made by the applicant in this application and during
public hearings shall be adhered to and shall be considered conditions of approval,
unless otherwise amended by a decision-making body having the authority to do so.
Motion second by Heidi. All in favor, motion carried 7-0.
234 W. FRANCIS - CONCEPTUAL & FINAL - PH - (table
Julie Ann Woods, planner stated that her research indicated that the age of
the garage is 1956. The actual request conceptual and final review, partial
demolition of the non-historic structure which is the garage and the variances
from the rear yard, side yard and combined side-yard setbacks.
Scott Lindeau, Studio B represented the owner. He relayed to the board that
the garage is an assemblage of added on structures. What is there now was
built in 1970. The proposal is to re-build the garage and moving it two feet
closer to the main house in order to get the vehicle in the garage.
Exhibit I - letter of support from Tobin's
Exhibit II - letter of support from Allen' s
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Gilbert relayed his concern of no garage elevations in the packet and the
applicant is requesting a final approval.
Scott relayed that the only thing changed is the connector from the Dec. 10,
1997 meeting.
Susan asked about lifting the existing garage up and pouring a new floor.
Scott said if that were done it would change the dimensions of the footers.
Julie Ann explained that the east elevation is different than what was
presented in December.
Suzannah stated that the stair is not drawn on any elevation and the dormers
have changed.
The majority of the board felt there was not enough elevations presented to
make a determination.
Chairperson Suzannah Reid opened the public hearing.
Sworn in were Joan Lang, who worked for Herbert Bayer.
Scott Lindea, architect
Ramona Markalunas, public
Joan Lang stated she worked for the Bayer's from 1951 to 1954. She worked
in the breezeway that was attached to the garage. There was a garage in
1951.
Ramona Markalunas stated that the 1904 Sanborn map shows the breezeway
but not the garage. The Bayer's bought the property in 1946 and built a
garage and the Anderson's bought the property in 1953 from the Bayers and
they remodeled the garage into the caretaker unit that it is today. The 1946
date is well within the 50 years that it would take to make it historic. The
historic garage is now an historic caretaker unit that was converted by R.O.
Anderson. Julie Anderson the daughter of R.O. is married to Morgan Smith
who is Jim Hopkins Smith's son. R.O. Anderson was very instrumental in
funding and getting the Aspen Institute for Humanistic Studies started.
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Governor Davis Wade lived in the house and the title to the property was
carried in his wife's name. He also ran one of the six newspapers that were
published in the 1880's and 1890's the Union Era. He was oriented in having
women vote and was a populist.
This building became a landmark in 1982 and it met the architectural
qualifications. To demolish a shed without a complete plan is not doing what
the preservation commission is established to do.
Chairperson Suzannah Reid closed the public hearing.
Roger relayed that there may have been something there but it has been
changed so much over the years i.e. a similar parallel to the Paepcke house.
The real historic portion of the structure is the original house. He stated that
he went through his records and painted the house in the 1970's when the
remodel was done. He stated that he is comfortable allowing the demolition
because an error was made by the City in that there was not a complete set of
drawings submitted.
Gilbert relayed his gratitude to Ramona in identifying individuals who have
lived in the historic structure. He also asked what other elements of the
garage/guest quarters she felt provided contribution to Aspen.
Ramona stated that the garage was turned into the caretaker unit and the
caretaker still lives in Aspen. Most of the larger homes in Aspen had
caretaker units.
Jeffrey site visited with the contractor Gary Wheeler and he relayed to the
board that Gary is doing his very best to keep all the historic conditions such
as the windows and siding and the siding is being stored in a dry place. He
stated that he looked at the rafters and existing framing and you could see the
break to the attached breezeways etc. The garage has 30 year old
construction techniques. The hangers are all of the 70's and 60's. There may
have been something there but it has been significantly altered. Jeffrey
relayed that he could vote for demolition.
Scott stated they are virtually building the garage.
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MOTION: Roger moved to approve the demolition of the non-historic
garage at 234 W. Francis with the following conditions:
1) A full set of drawings be submitted for the June 10th meeting which reflect
the drawings that were submitted today. Plans to include a lan&cape plan.
2) Fariances will be considered at the June 10th meeting; also final material
selections will be reviewed.
MOTION: Roger also moved to continue conceptual and final and the
public hearing until the June 10, 1998 meeting Motion second by Jefjhey.
All in favor, motion carried. Motion carried 5-2.
Melanie stated that she felt the design of the garage needed to be restudied
since it is not historic.
Roger stated at final the fence needs to be discussed.
101-105 E. HALLAM - PARTIAL DEMOLITION
Sworn in were Augie Reno and Alan Busch.
Mitch Haas, planner stated that a memo was not provided as drawings were
not presented in time for review by a planner for the packet. A new set of
drawings were submitted for the HPC review and possibly the board can give
the applicant some direction. The applicant has noticed property owners
within the 300 foot radius.
One of the major issues were the light wells at the last meeting. The majority
of the board was opposed to the lightwell on the north elevation, the street
side and that light well has been eliminated. The other light wells remain
where they were and are required for egress of the basement.
Augie stated they were given approval to connect the shed to the house. The majority of the
roof line was brought back from the last meeting to what it exists as of today. Two dormers
were eliminated. They down scaled the dormers on the western elevation. One light well on
the north side was eliminated. It was suggested at the last meeting to put the light wells on
the east side of the building but you would not get light down into that space. The recess of
the center door on the west side is at the 1 1/2 foot dimension and is primarily because the
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existing wall is recessed and they area bringing it out and a kitchen will be put in. A request
is being made for a variance of the no window zone.
Susan suggested eliminating one of the lightwells on the west elevation. She
also inquired about what materials would be saved from the shed.
Augie relayed that the brick would be saved.
Augie stated the west elevation is set back 30 feet from the street and the
light wells will not be that visible.
Mitch stated that the original house had a hipped roof. They would need a
Design Review variance from ordinance 30 for the lightwells and windows.
Augie mentioned that the existing house basically has the windows in a
similar form as the building exists today. The triangulated and semi-round
window exist today.
Alan stated that they are staying within a total of nine feet of windows and it
is the same location as the existing windows.
Gilbert indicated that throughout the elevations the windows are consistent
excep for the south elevation.
Augie indicated that the space is the only area visible to Aspen Mountain and
they wanted to take advantage of that view. It is also the alley side.
Commissioner Comments
Roger's concern is the distraction on the west side of the fenestration above
the historic resource. He requested a restudy of the window shapes of that
facade. The mass and scale is commendable. He stated if you want to show
differentiation between the historic and later additions then you would not put
columns by the entry that match the ones on the front west elevation. The
columns on the north should be totally different.
He also stated that he could accept the light wells due to the distance of 25 to
30 feet from the curb if they are done in a flat grill shape and vegetation could
be done in front of them. The placement of the double hung windows on the
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north elevation needs restudied, possibly bring them closer together and also
more to the proportion of the windows on the west side. The strange window
shapes in the peak on the south elevation is a little confusing with the historic
house. He feels too much space is taken up in the dormers with the strange
shaped window (this references Ord. #30.) The mass and scale have been
addressed successfully.
Mitch clarified that on the east the door is being moved over into an area
where there was a filled in window. On the west elevation there are three
new windows which are not on the historic resource.
Gilbert relayed that the mass and scale are acceptable. In general he likes the
proposal. The exceptions are the amount of upper level glazed windows.
The scheme for the west elevation and the south elevation regarding Ord.
#30 volume standard could be waived if the upper windows were restudied.
He also said the windows are visible from across the street. The columns
should not be the same as the historic columns on the north elevation.
Susan stated that her concern is the west elevation. Too much is going on.
Regarding the light wells one should be moved to the storage side. The
recessed area on the west is appropriate. His major concern is the second
floor elevation on the west side.
Melanie stated that her concern is the upper west elevation. She also feels
the glazing needs restudied. The alley side of the house is acceptable. She
would prefer to see the light wells on the east side of the house but since they
are so far from the street, (approximately 30 feet) she feels there may be a
way to incorporate them and do plantings around the light wells.
Heidi relayed that the proposal is much improved over what was presented at
the last meeting. She is far more comfortable with the roof lines presented
this evening. She also concurs with the west elevation concerns of the other
board members. It feels too dominant and it is distracting from the historic
element. In general the windows need restudied. On the north making the
upper windows smaller and closer together is a good suggestion. In that way
they would be subordinate to the lower historic story. No problem with the
light wells. She recommends that a memo be prepared from staff before
making a final vote.
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Jeffrey feels this proposal is a great improvement as the massing has been
addressed. The west has been improved but he large dormer needs restudied
because of its inflection on the historic resource. The light wells are OK
depending on the final detailing. The consistency in the material change from
the historic brick to the new brick and then back to the historic brick helps
with the clarity of what is defining new and what is old. On the north
elevation the proportions work better. The proposal is on its way to being a
good project.
Suzannah agreed with everything said but her concern is the north elevation
windows. They should be moved closer together. She is also concerned
about the way the eave detail is being handled and the portion of the roof that
is wrapping around the front side and also the way the new peaked roof is
being cut off by the horizontal line. Something a more elegant should be
incorporated, possibly allowing the fascia edge to come through. The west
elevation dormers need simplification. Light wells are acceptable and they
will be presented by landscape work. No problem with the garage dormer.
Alan Busch asked that the motion include the approval of the light wells in
order for them to get started.
Suzannah relayed that her concern is cutting up approvals in pieces and it has
been a problem in the past and keeping track of what was approved.
Augie requested a summary.
MOTION: Roger moved to approve partial demolition to 101-105 E.
Hallam with the following conditions:
1) Restudy the windows on the north elevation.
2) Restudy the delineation of the historic and new remodel on the west side
i.e. columns and doorway.
3) Restudy the upper fenestration on the west elevation.
4) Restudy the upper fenestration on the south elevation.
Motion second by Melanie.
Discussion:
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Roger explained that the HPC is allowing them to proceed with their
engineering and permit to demo and lift the house up.
Suzannah and other member relayed their concern about the one step process
partially being approved.
Gilbert relayed that the associated issues are exceptions to the volume
standard and variance issues for the light wells. It would be difficult to
approve a volume standard because of the disparity of what is acceptable and
what is not.
Other member indicated they could not approve the project without the
revisions.
AMENDED MOTION: Roger moved to continue 101-105 E. Hallam,
partial demolition to a date certain, June lOth with the following conditions:
1) Restudy the windows on the north elevation.
2) Restudy the delineation of the historic and new remodel on the west side
i.e. columns and doorway.
3) Restudy the upper fenestration on the west elevation.
4) Restudy the upper fenestration on the south elevation.
Motion second by Melanie. All in favor, motion carried 7-0.
SUNDECK REFERRAL
No minutes
MOTION: Roger moved to adjourn; second by Heidi. All in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned at 7:30 p. m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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303 E. MAIN - DOORWAY AT BACK OF THE PORCH .................................................................. 1
DEPP PRESENTATION - NO MINUTES ........................................................................................... 2
107 S. MILL - ELLI'S BUILDING - ZONA ........................................................................................ 2
214 E. BLEEKER - HISTORIC LOT SPLIT - PH ............................................................................... 3
234 W. FRANCIS - CONCEPTUAL & FINAL - PH - (TABLE .......................................................... 5
101-105 E. HALLAM - PARTIAL DEMOLITION (CONTINUED FROM MAY 13) ........................ 8
SUNDECK REFERRAL - NO MINUTES .......................................................................................... 12
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