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Home My WebLink Aboutminutes.apz.20050405ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING Minutes - April 5~ 2005 MINUTES ....................................................................................................................................... 2 LODGE AT ASPEN MOUNTAIN ................................................................................................ 2 ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING Minutes - April '5~ 2005 Jasmine Tygre opened the regular Aspen Planning & Zoning Meeting in Council Chambers at 4:30. Commissioners Brian Speck, Dylan Johns, Steve Skadron and Jasmine Tygre were present. John Rowland, Jack Johnson, Brandon Marion and Ruth Kruger were excused. Staff in attendance were John Worcester, City Attorney; James Lindt, Community Development; Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk. MINUTES Steve moved to approve the minutes from February 1st, 22~a, March ]st, ] sth, and 29th,· seconded by Brian Speck. APPROVED 3-0. (Jasmine Tygre abstained) CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: LODGE AT ASPEN MOUNTAIN Jasmine Tygre opened the public hearing. James Lindt read letters from Michael Mizen, Timothy Tucker, Dick and Nancy Cope and Alex Biel all objecting to the size and massing of the project. Lindt said that Mr. Biel requested the commission continue these hearing to June because of the off season and felt these heatings should provide due process to the homeowners that are out of town for the off- season. Lindt noted that he requested John Worcester, City Attorney, to give a legal opinion to Planning & Zoning for the commission's responsibility for reviewing projects during the off-season periods. John Worcester said he understood concerns of neighbors not being here during the off-season but the Land Use Code doesn't address the off-season or on-season and P&Z does not have an obligation to postpone this hearing. The commissioners discussed postponing the hearing with regards to Mr. Biel's request. Tygre said If Community Development could notify the contact at each homeowner association of the changes then each homeowner would not be contacting Community Development; this would fulfill the P&Z responsibility even if they were not in town. Sunny Vann said there were 3 homeowners associations and the applicant would provide a packet of information to each one. The commissioners agreed that notification of changes to the homeowners associations would be sufficient during the off-season. James Lindt described the packet materials and summarized the February 22nd meeting with the applicant providing the revised design and staff provided a recommendation in the design, which included changes to the proposal. The commission requested additional information on how South Aspen Street would be safe with the additional traffic. The applicant indicated they were working on a ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING Minutes - April 5~ 2005 maintenance plan for South Aspen Street, which would be completed by the next meeting. The revised dimensional figures and design changes would also be provided at the next hearing. John Sarpa said they listened to staffand neighbors; the road maintenance plan was not completed but was in the process. Sarpa said the elevations were shown for the first time tonight. Sarpa stated there were 3 key elements, which were the porte- cochere, the bridge at 2 stories and the most visible faqade was redone. Kim Weil said the area at street level has been reduced a floor along the northern building module on parcel 2; the bridge was reduced to one level; the porte- cochere was moved back 20 feet and the stone base waskept at one story. Weil said there was a height plan in the packet; the heights vary from 29 feet to 68 feet at the feature. Vann said the heights were measured from natural grade with the height at the front of the building at 45 feet. Public Comments: 1. Bart Johnson, Timberridge Association, stated that they have met with John and Kim and they were shown what was provided today. 2. Jerry Gerwitz, Lift One owner, said that he wrote a letter initially and wanted to know if he had to write a letter for every meeting to keep his objection current. James Lindt answered that he did not because the letters were entered into the record when they were received. Gerwitz requested the neighbor buildings be laid into the renderings. 3. Doug Allen, represents Lift One Condo Association, said that they have been meeting with the developers but they still had issues with the mass and the ridge. 4. Simon Pinniger, Shadow Mountain, said there was no discussion with the developer and 65 feet was so high and this was a gross miss use of the PUD and Aspen Area Community Plan. Pinniger said that 14 townhomes have already been approved for this site. Pinniger said the Hyatt and St. Regis were being used as a benchmark rather than the underlying code for what gets approved. Pinniger said on top of the lodging there were high priced penthouses and getting the view for those penthouses takes everyone else's view away. 3 ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING Minutes - April 5, 2005 5. Bruce Fart, Timberridge, said he had serious concerns with the proposed height and bulk; he picked up the site plan and did his own calculations, which he presented. Farr said the views did not improve and needed work. 6. Tanya, public, stated the project was much too big. 7. Galen Waldron, Timberridge, asked the elevation of the employee housing facing the street. Weil answered that the finish of the building was 35½ feet and the top of the rail was at 58 elevation. Waldron said that the building was dead center in front of the Timberridge and as you move to the east the wall becomes 51 to 53 feet, which was too big of a scale for the neighborhood. Waldron asked to lower the building across from Timberridge because the mass and scale have to taken into account. Waldron suggested platforms be built at the proposed heights; Timberridge looks at a massive wall with this project. Waldron asked that the land be considered. Jasmine Tygre encouraged the condo association owners to email to Community Development their comments. Dylan Johns said in general he felt that things were going in the right direction. Johns said that the Shadow Mountain owners would benefit from sitting down with the developers. Johns stated there was a large grade change at the property line that impacts the height at the Shadow Mountain end of the building. Steve Skadron concurred with Dylan and he would like to see the acetate overlay. Klm Weil stated that it would be a version of those drawings with the buildings on either end. Brian Speck agreed with Dylan. Speck said the applicant has made some adjustments and he would like to see a little bit more. Jasmine Tygre said that she needed to see a lot more and the site visit was not very helpful even though the applicant took the commissioners around the site. Tygre said that she would like to see the measurements from the actual top of the ridge; she was concerned with the visual impacts of the project because it was on a large site. Tygre noted there were two massive buildings connected by a bridge on a graded slope. Tygre said the purpose of the PUD was to provide better design then would be accomplished under the existing guidelines; she asked why this PUD was better than the project that could have been built under the existing guidelines. 4 ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING Minutes - April 5, 2005 MOTION: Steve Skadron moved to continue the public hearing to April 12, 2005 for the Lodge at Aspen Mountain's maintenance plan and May 1 O, 2005for the design issues; seconded by Brian Speck. All in favor, Approved. ff~ck'e Lothiar~ ..... 'ty Clerk , Deputy C~ 5