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MINUTES OF MARCH 1, 2000
Chairperson Son Busch called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. Members in
attendance were Bill Dinsmoor, Terry Butler, John Start and Eric Cohen.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Terry announced that she will be spending time in Mexico opening her new
hotel.
Bill relayed that the DEPP project.was approved at the last council meeting.
Bill is concerned that Phase II will not be implemented. His fear is that
numerous business owners are not in favor of the project. CCLC supports
the DEPP project and commends the city for going forward and they feel
the project will be successful.
John feels that Phase II will be phased out.
Staff will initiate a memo to management and council in support of the
DEPP project. The board will do an article in the paper.
Terry relayed that all of the board members when out in public should
promote the DEPP project and how successful it,will be; feed good and
positive energy to the community.
Jon: In front of the Sardy House a street light is down. Staffwas directed
to contact the Electric Dept. regarding light polls that are at Kathryn's store
and possibly they can purchase them. There are three complete polls that
have never been used.
INFILL PROJECTS - CHRIS BENDON LONG RANGE PLANNER
Chris informed the members that he has followed the DEPP project and
feels positive about its outcome. Chris relayed that he is doing initial
research on infill housing and also the Civic Center Master Plan. Infill
housing is what we can do downtown to encourage and create a sense of
urbanism. Incentives such as an excise tax for DEPP could be addressed.
There are several buildings such as the Gap that were never built out to
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what they could be: Some of the vacant lots downtown are being used as
parking and could have affordable housing.
The Civic Center master plan is basically looking at what government
facilities we have. There is the possibility of moving the fire station to a
location on Main Street or on Mill Street. There are concerns about the
Conner cabins adjacent to City Hall and what might eventually become of
those buildings and how might they be protected.
Chris would like representatives from various boards that would represent
their board and if there are specific questions they can then go back to the
board and get a report. Similar to DEPP, a master plan would go through
and get a vote from all the boards and get compliance from P&Z and
Council. Chris would like one member from council and P&Z to be on the
committee. The end result would be to get a master plan approved for the
two projects. As part of the study regulatory barriers and zoning constraints
were brought up such as open space requirements and parking.
Other ideas will be addressed such as what if we raised our height limit and
allowed for additional FAR. What if we allowed for additional parking?
The interest is if there is going to be a certain amount of development
happening it should be done where the infill structures exist, not sprawling
through the countryside. If we allow development to occur downtown we
might be able to keep some of our open space free. By doing development
downtown we could enhance some of the social characteristics of
downtown. We also might be able to address the town economy. Growth
management has put a clamp on that, as properties do not redevelop, not
only in the commercial space but also in the ability for a storeowner to build
affordable housing.
Jon relayed one of the barriers is financing and it is an area that the city can
be helpful with in terms of coming up with competitive financing
companies and ways to take some of the burden off business owners.
Helping businesses secure mortgages should be addressed.
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Bill said he and Jon had an opportunity to get involved in a transportation
system that was funded through a tax code 6320 which basically encourages
public/private partners in projects whether it be housing etc. It allows for
bonding capability independent of the city's bonding, separate bonding that
is a very inexpensive way to finance big projects or small projects. The
assets are essentially turned over to whom ever the public entity partner is.
It is an opportunity for the city to buy back the bonds. Bill feels the
financing is a critical element.
Bill also brought up the fact that there are several projects that cannot move
ahead because of resistance by I-IPC.
Bill asked what are the regulatory barriers being reviewed in the process?
Chris responded the way the zoning is set up now, you can go to 40 feet but
the far is 1 o5 so you can do a story and a half. It is difficult to get to 40 feet.
Also, in some of.the zoning you have to take 25 % of parcel as open space.
John said the open space was brought up by DEPP and clearly needs
reviewed. Requiring dead space is useless.
Chris said Paradise bakery has a social space and so does Zele and those
areas work. The entrance to the Fire station has a dead area and where the
old Isis had their dumpster is dead space. The most successful is the
Kandycom Bldg.
Chris also said he will assemble a team and identify the things that need
changed for the board.
John felt that economic players should be on Chris's team. Financial
incentives need discussed. John suggested an appraiser.
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Chris suggested doing a few parcels through a process. Then codify a
program by~right. By right means if you are going to do a building that
meets the performance standards then pull a building permit and build it.
In Alan Richmond's report it was pointed out the nUmerous boards that you
have to go through and the things that can make the project fall through.
Jon said we are talking about urban infill and should we limit the area.
There is the forest service property, Barbee, Gramiger etc. Possibly it
should be expanded.
Chris said Barbee was approved for 10 AH units.
Jon said there are two barriers, regulatory barrier and financial barrier. A
suggestion would be to get a banker or financier involved.
Eric said we are talking about infill housing and who is going to benefit and
who are you putting in the housing. You are not looking at older people or
families you are looking at young single people who are willing to live in
town also restaurant and retail employees.
If all the employers see the big picture the employee flow goes back and
forth in the community and the successful business operators know that.
You do not see middle management living in the commercial core.
John informed the board that in order to develop you must have a mix of
housing; short term, long term, and free market. An examination should be
done as to who owns what property that can be potentially developed. We
need to know who owns the ranches etc. and how to craft what they need.
Chris relayed that he met with the small lodge owners and asked them what
they needed to keep them successful and going. A lot of issues came up
that he would not otherwise know and as a result council adopted the new
small lodge program.
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Jon relaYed that the process needs simplified. There has to be a medium
where the owner can make money.
Bill said housing could be explored on top of the Norwest Bank.
Terry feels people should be drawn back into the town.
Jori said another barrier is the Wheeler view plane.
Bill suggested possibly housing could be incorporated on top of the parking
garage.
Bill moved to adjourn, second by Terry. All in favor, motion carried. 4-0
Meeting adjourned at 10:15 a.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk