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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcclc.min.07062005COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JULY 6~ 2005 Chairperson, Bill Dinsmoor called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. Commissioners in attendance: Stan Hajenga, Don Sheeley, Mark Goodman, John Starr. Excused were Shae' Singer, Marc Breslin and Terry Butler. Ducky Derby Chris Bendon explained that the proposal is on the mall by the Kiosk. They are looking at a 20 x 20 tent. The fire department has already viewed the site and has no issues with it. They would like a two week approval to sell merchandise and ducks. MOTION: Don made the motion to approve the Ducky Derby request to be on the mall for two weeks; second by Mark. All in favor, motion carried. Bill pointed out that some special events come down to the CCLC for approval and some do not and the rhyme and reason is somewhat lost. John said this has always occurred in the past. Kathryn Koch, City Clerk pointed out that special events are usually in the parks not on the mall. Historically the CCLC had a better idea of what was happening on the mall and this is a two week display and staff felt that it should come to the CCLC for review but it somewhat arbitrary. John asked what the graph per revenue over the ten years was. Chris said in the last two years we have done a lot better. We have done about $75,000 in sponsorships this year so far. John pointed out his displeasure at seeing the 25 foot duck on the mall and the small ducks in the river. John requested that the individuals in the tent be non-aggressive to people walking on the mall. Bill echoed John's concerns. Bill said at the worksession with Council, they had concerns about the mall and doing interesting things on the mall and how do we enforce it and what do other cities do. Chris said it is a matter of defining what you want and do not want to see and regulate it. It looks like the same process you did for the Saturday market. Andrew Kole said the best thing to do is go to the Fire Department to see if the sides or middle can be opened up. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JULY 6~ 2005 John and Bill said Helen and Rachel arc very firm about their views on vending etc. on the mall. Stan said he talked to Rachel, Helen and Jack and he feels council will open the door about the malls. Stan said we should look at each request on a case by case and come up with a one page review process. Bill said the malls need to be re-thought. Should they be linear or serpentine etc. John said he would like the BID group to get together and focus on all the work that was done on DEPP II which was more capital projects and streetscape. What would be a better way to do our malls. Chris said the BID cannot be driven by the City. The private sector has to be onboard and willing to be taxed for it. In terms of DEPP and other improvements we choose which section to complete and then move to another one trying to decide which is more important. A BID could consolidate improvements etc. One property owner told him he would consider a BID if it was parking or marketing but not flowers etc. Bill said the City will need to contribute extra money toward the BID to support it. Maybe the City should match it dollar for dollar. Chris said like anything else that happens in this town it's usually the result of some partnership. John said he would like council to know that progress came from the BID meeting and that there are significant people on that committee. At the meeting Brad Siegel put a budget on the table and a time frame. He is clearly the person to hire. The cost was $45,000 and that is less than was expected. Mark said a BID would create vitality and capital improvements. Nothing is stronger than the BID to get things done. Kathryn stated that the BID is on the list for the council retreat. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JULY 6, 2005 Stan said the lodging association is putting together a priority list of issues that need discussed. Maybe the restaurant association and retail association should do the same. Bill said at this point we do not have a restaurant or retail association that is organized or committed to be a voice for themselves. Don said the ACRA has 800 businesses and we can get together as one and support an idea. Bill said we need to get a group of people that feel the BID is a viable thing for the community including the ACRA. Lighting: Bill said the lighting probably won't occur until next year. In the winter months lighting would make the malls so much more attractive. Mark said he feels the lighting is the second most important issue that needs addressed. Stan said the businesses on the mall that need lighting should sign a petition to get it moving and present it to city council. Stan said one of the problems is that council hears problems from the same people and it is always the same complaint. Do you know of a retailer that has gone to council asking why the lighting is taking so long. Mark said he is willing to do the leg work and will get the signatures to present to council. Red Onion Mark said Dick Allen from the Vintage posters next door to the Red Onion approached him about the Red Onion having tables that area creeping over the property line and blocking his window and door. Bill said he doesn't know who does the enforcement of mall leases. Kathryn said she talked to David Walbert and told him he either had to fence it or move it. She also said legislation is being presented to CAST in August to see if they are willing to support amending the liquor laws which presently require that outside seating has to be contiguous. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JULY 6~ 2005 John said next year he would like to see Takah Sushi move back in a little because they are out too far in a major pedestrian area. Don suggested that they bring it in a little during the day and then at night move it out. During the day it just sits there as empty space. Mark pointed out that Takah Sushi adds much more than it takes away with the color combination, seating etc. Monthly Report Bill mentioned that Council does not want to read all of CCLC minutes. Council wants to see what we are working on and the deadlines. Maybe we can put that on our agenda on the second week of the month. Maybe we can make some recommendations with bullet points. John suggested giving the minutes to council. Stan said we can do a summation. He also suggested that a council member come to our meetings. Dan also agreed that a council member should come to the CCLC meetings once a month. Bill said he wants to discuss with Jack Johnson and Je DeVilbiss the retreat and the BID and what we do and what we don't do. Stan interjected that the council members don't have to stay for the entire meeting, either come at the beginning and ask questions or at the end. Valet Parking Stan said we need information as to how the program is working. He has front desk people that can't inform people about the valet because he hasn't heard anything about it. Stan said there is nothing at the Wheeler or Chamber about valet parking. Nobody knows the time etc. Don said he was willing to go a brochure and put it around town but Tim never contacted him. Don thought there were too many daytime parking spaces. Bill also said the signage is a little over the top. Don said we need a sign at Mill indicating valet parking with an arrow. Bill said at this time valet parking is under advertised and under promoted and under informed unless you are at right there and know how to use it. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JULY 6, 2005 Saturday market. Bill said products are creeping to the center. They need to be retained within the 10 x 10 booths. The other concern is power. Kathryn said her concern was maneuvering out on S. Hunter. Andrew Kole pointed out that all the jewelry people are together and last year they were spread out. Bill said Maggie, David and Allegheny were to handle the placement of vendors and that can be discussed at the next meeting. Bill said this is the second largest event held in Aspen. It is grossing over a million dollars. Andrew suggested having someone count the number of individuals that come through the market. He also feels the market some expand another block. John said sometime next year we need to discuss the contract between the farmers and us. We need to be thinking of what we want in the contract. Garage sale signs. Stan said signs are staying up for two weeks in a row and nobody takes them down. What is the regulation on signs? Meeting adjourned at 10:30 a.m. Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk