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MINUTES OF APRIL 5, 2000
Chairman Jon Busch called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. Members in
attendance were Bill Dinsmoor, Jun Busch and Terry Butler. Excused were
John Starr and Eric Cohen.
Bill informed the board that he would have chosen Galena Street for the
first phase of the DEPP project instead of Mill Street. Funding is not
available for 2000.
Bill also brought up the issues of large corporations coming into Boulder
and how to control it and the loss of community downtown. Boulder
commissioners for downtown have been scheduling meetings and possibly
the CCLC should be involved. The City of Aspen has no regulations on
chain stores but they do have regulations on size of commercial space.
Bill said he would go to Boulder and converse with their downtown board
members. The Crossroads mall is being developed near Boulder and large
anchor stores are coming in and BOulder is concerned that the business
vitality will diminish. Local ownership and people working in their
downtown are concerns of Aspen's core.
Terry relayed that in Europe they have the stores downstairs and the owners
live upstairs and that has kept the vitality of the downtown. We need to
encourage people to come back to the downtown in order to add vitality.
Jon said according to the Housing Office since 1990 we have lost 400 lodge
rooms. These are the people who will come to Aspen and be out and
throughout the town.
Bill felt with the small lodge conversion was not thought through, they were
just responding to the short-term need.
Chris Bendon will be going to council the 24th to request funding for the
TDR program, Civic center and infill. Money will be allocated for an
appraiser and architect/design person.
Chris had a worksession with council on TDR's and downtown
development. The zoning code needs changed for infill and TDR's. The
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Gap building was used as the example. The gap is halfde~eloped. Buying
down the parking and affordable housing would cost 4 million to pull a
building permit and that is prior to constructing the building. That is with
the existing zoning code and that is not cost effective.
The second example would be to scrape the existing building and mitigate.
You would have a six-story building, which doesn't' work with the existing
code.
The third would be to have half commercial and do parking onsite. The
affordable housing would use up 80% of the site. The AH would go in the
coroner and you would then have a ten story which doesn't work either.
Bill suggested that Chris request more funding from council for his study.
WAGNER PARK
Jon said the idea was that a visitor center kiosk would be build into the
project. Possibly do a more permanent kiosk where the existing on is.
The entrance to the restrooms cannot be where the performances are.
They are looking at 24 stalls. Right now there are two women's and four
men. In order for it to work they need at least double.
Jeff Woods, Parks Director relayed that they have $750,000 and they intend
to start after Rugger Fest and be done by July 1st next year.
The scope is to improve the mall connection to the park. Better irrigation
and better circulation on the north and south side will be addressed. The
pedestrian alley space would be widened and become a service alley with
limited time frames. Widening the circulation on the south side and
drainage will be incorporated.
They intend to improve the pedestrian walkway on Monarch that would
wind through the trees. The trees would be pruned up. On the Mill Street
mall edge a grid of street trees would be planted to make a cohesive edge.
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The building mass will address the needs of additional restrooms and
additional maintenance space necessary.
Scott Chism, project manager relayed that the playground doesn't meet
current safety codes.
The field will be sunken and an edge would be created for seating.
A draining mass for the City of Aspen will be incorporated. The streets
would be used as conduits and open space as catch mitts. The grand scale is
to fit into the master-draining plan for the City of Aspen in case of
floodwater etc.
The site has six feet of fall between Mill and Durant Street.
The Recreation Dept. also wants youth soccer on the Wagner Park riel&
For the rugby players the field would have to be shortened or shorten the
end field in order for the Plan to work. Scott will contact the players for
information.
This year Food and Wine would have to be on dirt or moved to the Rio
Grande.
HPC suggested a design competition for the restroom/storage areas.
Jon asked about the roof structures. There are no areas for calling plays etc.
He suggested lighting for the open performance area. A motorized wall
could be installed in back of the performance.
Jeff suggested a flat roof for calling the plays.
HPC had concern with the tree density, which is needed for protection.
DUCKY DERBY
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John Sarpa relayed that they are integrating what Rotary is and what they do
this year. They are requesting to use the mall area once again. They are
requesting a portable canopy for on the mall, 10 x 10 vinyl white top to
reflect the sun. The sides could be drawn up or down in case of rain. It
would be taken down nightly. The intent is to keep it clean and make the
presentation professional. The large duck will also be erected.
100% of the profits will go back to the non-profit groups. The cost to put
on the event is $80,000 They have made $829,000 thousand for the past 9
year. The goal this year is $135,000.
Roger Moyer brought up the issue of cars on the mall and recommended
that plywood be used on the mall for cars for the future.
MOTION: Bill made the motion to approve the Ducky Derby and the
request for a portable canopy; motion second by Terry. All in favor,
motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 10:35