HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.20050607ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION - Minutes - June 07~ 2005
COMMENTS ............................................................................................................ 2
MINUTES ................................................................................................................. 2
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ............................................... 2
LITTLE AJAX AFFORDABLE HOUSING PUD AMENDMENT ....................... 2
MOUNTAIN DISCOUNT CONDITIONAL USE - 557 NORTH MILL STREET
#101 ........................................................................................................................... 4
CHART HOUSE LODGE FINAL PUD and ASSOCIATED LAND USE
REQUESTS ............................................................................................................... 6
ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION - Minutes - June 07~ 2005
Jasmine Tygre opened the regular Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting in
Council Chambers at 4:30 p.m. Commission Members Brian Speck, Brandon
Marion, Steve Skadron, John Rowland, Ruth Kruger and Jasmine Tygre were
present. Dylan Johns and Jack Johnson were excused. Staff in attendance were
Chris Bendon and James Lindt, Community Development and Jackie Lothian,
Deputy City Clerk.
COMMENTS
James Lindt noted the next meeting was June 14th at the Fire Department. Lindt
asked for volunteers for the Canary Initiative Committee. Brian Speck, Ruth
Kruger and Steve Skadron volunteered.
MINUTES
MOTION: Brian Speck moved to approve the minutes ring from May 10th and
May 5th with the corrected scoring; seconded by Steve Skadron. All in favor,
motion carried.
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
Ruth Kruger recused herself on Mountain Discount.
PUBLIC HEARING:
LITTLE AJAX AFFORDABLE HOUSING PUD AMENDMENT
Jasmine Tygre opened the public heating for Little Ajax Affordable Housing PUD
Amendment. James Lindt supplied the proof of notice by mailing, posting and
publication in the newspaper.
Lindt provided the background on the Little Ajax project with City Council
approving a 14 unit affordable housing project on the south side of West Hopkins
Avenue with certain approvals on architecture. Lindt explained that the applicants
have made some modifications to the front facing facade with a cantilever of the
second floor and the addition of some porch areas'. The applicant is further
requesting the ability to get rid of the pitched roof element on the west side to
provide a better pedestrian scale as well as eliminating 2 more of the pitched roof
elements, which will eliminate the roof drainage concerns. The walkway corridors
will be widened between the 2 building modules.
Charlie Kaplan said that in December P&Z saw the small model with 16 units and
it was now reduced to 14 units per Council. Kaplan said West Hopkins was more
of a pedestrian experience with a wall of only 8 feet rather than 12 feet at the end.
Kaplan said in order to further articulate the separation between buildings of the
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upper and lower box. The slot is now 12 feet and was 6 or 8 feet. Kaplan said this
was a much better scheme but a more expensive scheme.
Brandon Marion asked if the cantilever over the first floor made the pedestrian
experience seem more vertical. Kaplan replied that he did not think that it did.
Marion asked the ceiling height of the first floor. Kaplan answered that it was 8
feet on the first floor and 12 feet on the second floor; the overall height was 20
feet. The previous was height was 23 to 24 feet.
Steve Skadron asked the overall amount of square footage that was reduced
because of the reduction of number of units. Kaplan replied 2500 to 3000 square
feet. Skadron asked the reasoning for the reduction in units. Lindt replied that
Council felt there was too much density on the site. Skadron asked if the roof had
any ventilation equipment on it. Kaplan replied most of what was on the roof were
2 foot bathroom vents at and 8 inch roof drains, which would not be seen from the
street.
John Rowland asked if the color scheme and materials were what was presented.
Kaplan replied that was corrugated material, the colors were limited by what was
available from different companies.
Public Comments:
1. Mike Haisfield, public, stated concern for snow on the flat roof and the short
amount of time the sun shines on the site.
2. Martha Madsen, public, stated concem about the number of cars, the
circulation of cars and the parking.
Kaplan stated the roof was designed with roof drains and they feel that flat roofs
work much better in snow country.
MOTION: Ruth Kruger moved to approve Resolution #18, Series 2005, with
conditions, an amendment to the architecture of the Little Ajax Affordable Housing
PUD; seconded by Brian Speck. Roll call vote: Rowland, yes; Speck, yes;
Skadron, yes; Kruger, yes; Marion, yes; Tygre, yes. Approved 6-0.
Discussion: Ruth Kruger noted that over the last 5 years this project has gone
through many reviews and the process brought out a better project through public
input. Steve Skadron asked Council's reasoning on reducing the number of units
from 16 to 14. James Lindt responded that parking was part of the issue and there
were subsidy issues. Jasmine Tygre stated the project has improved.
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PUBLIC HEARING:
MOUNTAIN DISCOUNT CONDITIONAL USE - 557 NORTH MILL
STREET #101
Jasmine Tygre opened the hearing on Mountain Discount Conditional Use. Sarah
Oates provided proof of notice.
Oates explained the history of the SCI zone district and the protection of this
district began in the 1970s. Oates said these were service orientated businesses
with less than 25% of the floor area for retail sales.
Oates said the proposal for Mountain Discount had two proposals for conditional
use to allow the sales and rental of consumer goods and more than 25% of the floor
area for retail sales. The sales and rental of consumer goods was eliminated from
the SCI zone district. Mountain Discount applied 4 days before the code change
went into effect and if Mountain Discount received approval it would become a
non-conforming use. Staff was concerned with the intent of the SCI zone district
not creating high customer traffic volumes and this proposal was contrary to the
intent of the zone district.
Paul Hoeper, applicant, stated that most of the parking spaces in the parking lot
were taken up by other businesses or from the other building; they were guaranteed
4-5 parking spaces by the landlord with an addition of getting 4-5 spaces from a
tenant that was leaving. Hoeper said they were trying to bring to the community
household goods at deeply discounted prices and bring the items in by the pallet
and sell off the pallets. Hoeper said they requested a 60% retail and storage of
pallets with the remaining 40% space. Hoeper provided pictures to the
commission and said there were a number of businesses that match what they were
trying to do.
John Rowland asked the extent of the store front. Hoeper replied the entire space
was 2800 square feet, which was the Matterhorn Bakery. Brandon Marion asked
where the parking was located. Hoeper said there were 4 guaranteed spaces but the
parking was not monitored but could be monitored and labeled. Marion asked if
the other businesses, which were retail in nature were grandfathered in. Chris
Bendon stated that a hardware store fits into the type of store that fits into the SCI
zone even though most of the space is retail, which is a separate use from this
proposal. Bendon said that P&Z spent probably a year going through each use in
the SCI zone district. Bendon said the question for the commission was there
sufficient parking for this conditional use; so that the neighborhood was not over
burdened.
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Public Comments:
Tom McCabe, public, stated that Aspen Repair Service has been in that zone
district since 1973. McCabe provided the history of that building from when it was
built, which included parking below the building from that ramp. McCabe drew
this building and the adjacent building; he said most of the parking belongs to the
building where his shop is located. McCabe said the city created the zoning but
they don't police their own zoning. McCabe said he had a plat of the area. Tygre
asked Tom for a copy of the map. McCabe had concerns for the parking because it
has always been problematic. McCabe said he wanted to protect the SCI zone,
which was meant to protect Mom & Pop businesses that don't have high profit
margins.
Paul Hoeper said there was only one entrance and exit to his store and they took
careful measurement of the parking spaces.
Tygre stated that there were criteria in the packet as exhibit A; there was constant
pressure on the SCI zone because many businesses could not afford to pay the
rents charged in other zones. The retailers than can afford to pay more in rents
pushes out the ones who can't afford to pay more; the SCI zone was designed to
protect businesses that were mixed use businesses but primarily had that repair, full
serving quality to them, which has not been easily defined.
Skadron complimented the applicant on the audacious venture that was much
needed in the community unfommately he said his decision would be to enforce
the code and ultimately best serve the community. Skadron agreed with staffon
this zone district not generating high customer traffic volumes and for this entity to
ultimately work it would need high traffic volumes. Rowland shared Steve's
comments. Marion applauded the efforts but agreed with Jasmine and Steve.
Marion said the parking conundrum that exists also concerned him. Brain Speck
dittoed the commissioners concerns and supported staff.
Oates added 2 conditions: all access shall be from the east building entrance and
the applicant shall provide a parking plan with the addition of at least 4 legal sized
and accessible parking spaces on site; the plan shall be based on a current survey.
MOTION: Steve Skadron moved to approve the Conditional Use for Mountain
Discount at 557 North Mill with the addition of conditions 5 and 6; seconded by
Brandon Marion. Roll call vote: Speck, no; Rowland, no; Marion, no; Skadron,
no; Tygre, no. Denied 5-0.
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PUBLIC HEARING:
CHART HOUSE LODGE FINAL PUD and ASSOCIATED LAND USE
REQUESTS
Jasmine Tygre opened the public hearing for the Chart House Final PUD. James
Lindt provided proof of notice. Lindt said this was for 11 timeshare lodge units
and 2 affordable housing units on the Chart House property at 219 East Durant
Avenue. Lindt noted the Chart House Lodge received Conceptual PUD approval
in August 2004 and Growth Management Scoring approval in October 2004.
Stan Clauson explained that at City Council a number of changes were made with
a reduction in the project from 42,674 square feet to 29,842 square feet. Clauson
said there were lock offs in 10 of the units so there were a total of 21 keys. The
height was reduced with the highest being 46'6" and 28 feet; the 4th floor was
setback and reduced in size. There was a public restaurant on the first floor with
patio seating outside. Clauson said the concept was based on retaining the very
large cottonwood trees that flank the front and side. The building was pulled 15
feet away from the property line on the Southpoint side, which was 3 times the
required setback. Clauson said in terms of community benefits it provides a new
public restaurant, lodging facilities, major improvement in the pedestrian connector
and the improvements to the Dean Street corhdor. The bevel was added to the
southeast comer not northwest comer.
Brandon Marion asked the time frame of the timeshare opportunities to be open to
the public. Clauson responded there were operational components, which were 1.
residences will be made available for short term rentals when not in use by the
owners; 2. short notice rental opportunities, short notice walk-in rentals on a per
diem basis; 3. owners were required to reserve 14 days in advance; 4. each of the
owners shall not stay in excess of 30 days.
Steve Skadron asked the size of the lock off bedrooms. Skip Behrhorst replied
between 500 to 600 square feet. Skadron asked when the Dean Street contribution
would be required. Lindt responded that it would probably be prior to CO on the
building itself. Skadron asked what the Dean Street improvements might be.
Bendon answered that it would physical improvements to the base from surface
improvements to lighting.
Public Comments:
1. Lidia VanTongren, Southpoint, stated her last concern was the ramp
between the Chart House and Southpoint. VanTongren said they wanted it to meet
the requirements without a big gash in back.
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2. Bob Nix, public, said he wondered about the reliability of the developers by
maintaining the rubbish since the Chart House closed; there were still barrels in the
back. A letter was submitted into the record by Mr. Nix.
3. Stan Hajenga, GEMS of Aspen, voiced concern for the impacts on smaller
lodges and the height creep in town. Hajenga said there was a responsibility to
work within the code. Hajenga applauded the applicant for contributing to the
Dean Street improvements.
Clauson said the ramp was the access to the affordable housing with a 6 foot width
and a substantial amount of planting between this project and Southpoint. Clauson
said the applicants do not own this property and do not control it; they have heard
about cleaning up the site and they will do it. Clauson said the height has been
reduced after many discussions and set by the conceptual approval. Tygre said if
they don't own the property but can submit an application with the permission of
the property owner. Lindt replied that was true an application could be submitted
with the consent of the property owner.
Ruth Kruger asked the height of the St. Regis at the maximum, the Mountain
Chalet and the Hyatt. Behrhorst replied the highest was at 72 feet at the St. Regis.
Lindt replied the Mountain Chalet was at 51 feet set by the PUD and the Hyatt was
approved at 47 feet.
Marion asked to understand the size of the ramp. Kruger asked what other
timeshare notifications were. Tygre said that they want the timeshares to operate
like a hotel as much as possible. Tygre asked for a 4~ column on the chart for the
current zoning as recently passed.
MOTION: Ruth Kruger moved to continue the public hearing to June 21st;
seconded by Brian Speck. All in favor, motion carried.
Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk
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