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ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
Minutes September 20, 2005
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ..................................................................... 2
HOLIDAY HOUSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONCEPTUAL PUD ..................................... 2
THE ASPEN CLUB CONCEPTUAL PUD ...................................................................................2
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Minutes September 20. 2005
Jasmine Tygre opened the regular meeting in the Sister Cities Meeting Room with
Brian Speck, John Rowland, Dylan Johns, Jasmine Tygre, Steve Skadron and Ruth
Kruger present. Brandon Marion was excused. Staff in attendance were James
Lindt, Joyce Allgaier, Community Development; Jackie Lothian, Deputy City
Clerk.
The Planning Commission delayed the approval of the minutes until the next
meeting.
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
None stated.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING:
HOLIDAY HOUSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONCEPTUAL PUD
Jasmine Tygre opened the continued public hearing for the Holiday House. Joyce
Allgaier stated the applicant requested the public hearing be continued.
MOTION: Dylan Johns moved to continue the Holiday House PUD to October 4,
2005; seconded by Steve Skadron. All infavor, approved.
Public hearing:
THE ASPEN CLUB CONCEPTUAL PUD
Jasmine Tygre opened the public hearing for the Aspen Club Conceptual PUD.
James Lindt provided the proof of publication, posting and mailing the notice.
Lindt stated this proposal included a Conceptual PUD, Conceptual SPA and
Conceptual Timeshare Reviews to alter the interior of the Aspen Club as well as to
construct 19 timeshare lodge units and 8 affordable housing units on the Aspen
Club parcel. Lindt said P&Z was the recommending body for the conceptual
reVIews.
Joyce Allgaier introduced herself and the planning commission to the audience;
she commented that this was a multi-step process, which begins with the planning
and zoning commission as a recommending body to city council. Allgaier
explained that hearings that get continued do not get re-noticed; when it gets to city
council there would be a new legal notice in the paper and mailing.
Lindt stated the applicants proposed an interior remodel to the existing Aspen Club
building to change some of the room uses to include new fitness studios and new
areas for physical strengthening equipment as well as a new entrance to the club.
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Also a new outdoor pool and 19 timeshare lodge units would be constructed, 13 in
a townhome configuration and 6 timeshare lodge units located inside the Club.
The town home units were 9 3-bedroom units and 4 4-bedroom units; timeshared
into 1/16th interests per unit. The Club units were 4 3-bedroom units and 2 2-
bedroom units time shared into 12 estates per unit. Also proposed were 8 2-
bedroom affordable housing units as category 2 rental units to mitigate for the
timeshare lodge units.
Lindt named the discussion items as the proposed use, a mix of the existing
facilities as well as the addition of a timeshare lodge, which replaces some of the
lodging base lost over the last decade. Staff questioned the location of the units
because the majority of the neighborhood contained long term residential units.
The FAR proposed on the site was .6 to I; it was 60% of the lot size. The setbacks
for the affordable housing would be established through the PUD, which were less
restrictive than the underlying rural residential zone district; the east side yard
setback as 3 feet and the front yard setback as 7.5 feet. Staff believed that the
affordable housing units could be rearranged to lessen the need for the setback
variances. Staff believed the Architecture was compatible with the neighborhood.
The timeshare use plan met the code requirements and plan to rent out the units
when not used by owners on a short term basis. There would be an on-site front
desk in the Aspen Club for rental of the units.
Lindt stated the Growth Management implications were met for the affordable
housing requirements. There were 157 parking spaces on-site; currently there were
91 parking spaces including the 35 parking spaces across the bridge and 56 spaces
off of Ute A venue. Lindt said the code required 8 parking spaces for the
affordable housing units, 17 parking spaces for the 19 timeshare lodge units and 43
parking spaces for the existing Aspen Club; the applicants proposed the same
number of spaces for the affordable housing and timeshare but 113 parking spaces
for the Club. The 35 parking spaces will remain on the Crystal Lake Road side.
Staff believed there was a parking issue currently with the demand that exceeds the
current parking provided however 2'1z times the Club parking requirement was
excessive and suggested the parking be brought down to a more moderate increase
than they currently have.
Lindt said the applicant provided a traffic report suggesting that Ute Avenue has
the current capacity to serve the proposed traffic that would be generated by the
proposal; the community development engineer agreed with the statement that Ute
Avenue could hold the additional traffic proposed. There would be traffic calming
on Ute Avenue with speed humps and better delineating the parking pockets.
Lindt said in 1996 when the parking was proposed off of Ute Avenue City Council
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made the decision to limit the amount of parking to limit traffic and required the
Aspen Club to have a shuttle.
Sunny Vann, planner, introduced Michael Fox, applicant and part owner of the
Club; the architects were Bill Poss and Kim Weil; Diane Moore worked with the
homeowners in the neighborhood.
Michael Fox stated that it helped to put this into context; the Aspen Club was a
unique place and at one point or another has touched members of the community in
every facet. Fox said the Aspen Club viability depended upon the core of the
community asset and adding the residential aspect, the outdoor pool and the
creation of a destination holistic health facility. Fox said they wanted to make the
plan for the Aspen Club work for all the constituent groups. Fox said one of the
current problems was the Club was under parked and there was a great opportunity
here to solve that problem. Fox said that this project would improve safety along
Ute Avenue and the trails.
Sunny Vann explained this was a full PUD and it would go through the process.
Vann said there were two fundamental issues: (I) the question of use and (2) was
the parking issue and ancillary to that was Ute Avenue itself. Vann said they had
no choice but to call this a timeshare lodge because when the city developed the
timeshare regulation it did not address residential units which were sold in a
fractional ownership. Vann said they were not trying to build a lodge but
residential units that could be used by multiple owners for programs at the Club
and were available for rental by the public at large. The Club itself served as the
amenity, check-in and registration for the units; it was primarily a residential
project in scale and design. Vann stated the Aspen Club had a long history of
evolution. Vann described the area surrounding the Aspen Club in the Callahan
Subdivision including the Benedict Building, the Silver Lining Ranch, the Aspen
Club Townhomes, Crystal Lake Road and the 2 single family houses on the
original parking lot. The 1010 Ute Subdivision, Ute Cemetery, Ute Park, Ute Park
Subdivision and the Gant provide a healthy mix of residential uses both long and
short term, commercial office uses, the club and affordable housing so there was
the full gamut ofland uses in the this area as well as many other areas. Vann said
the SPA process was used for almost everything surrounding the Aspen Club to
accommodate the diversity of this area. Vann noted the proposed project would
have the townhomes occupied on a more permanent basis with access to the club.
Vann said that the use compliments what is going on at the Club; the use was
consistent with other similar types of uses scattered throughout the community and
the key consideration was that the impacts associated by allowing this use in this
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location can be reasonably accommodated by the neighborhood and community at
large.
Vann said the building complied with the height requirements, reasonable FAR,
setbacks except for the affordable housing component and the stream margin
review regulations.
Vann said the parking issue was technical but important to understand the
proposal. The current parking requirement was 91 spaces; there were 56 spaces on
the Club side and 35 spaces in the original parking lot across the river; the rest of
that space was turned into 2 single lots with 2 homes under construction. There
was a successful van service provided. About 60 % of the 1800 members of the
club were locals; the reduction jn parking on site has not been successful and some
say it has increased traffic on Ute Avenue. The current parking was inadequate for
the club membership of approximately 1800 people. Vann said the proposed
parking included 8 spaces for the affordable housing; the code requirement for the
timeshare components (17) and club parking (132), which totaled 157 proposed
parking spaces. Vann said there has .been a traffic analysis done and they will take
the lead on what was currently an unacceptable situation on Ute Avenue; the
improvements would include speed tables to slow down traffic in key locations,
perhaps necking down the street where it crosses the Ute trail, better delineated
crossings at the intersection with South Original Street, signage and better
recognition for the parking. The plans would be submitted with the final review
for the proposed project.
Steve Skadron asked the dates of the aerial photos. Kim Weil replied the larger
one was dated May 2003. Skadron asked how far can an SPA overlay go to
change the underlying zoning. Lindt responded the SP A overlay allows for an
applicant to establish a certain use plan for the site as well as establish dimensional
requirements with the exception of FAR. Lindt said the PUD process establishes
the FAR. Skadron asked if the shuttle was owned by the Club. Michael Fox
answered there were actually 2 shuttles, one owned by the Club and the one owned
by RFTA (the cross town shuttle). Skadron asked the usage of the cross town
shuttle. Skadron expressed his objection to this proposal.
Skadron asked the number of employees at the Aspen Club. Fox replied that it was
seasonal; at any given time about 90 with about 130 on payroll and about 200 W-2
forms a year. Skadron asked if the residential component was necessary to keep
the Aspen Club viable. Fox responded that it was a great question and he said that
he thought it is; it was critical to the evolution.
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Brian Speck asked why there was less parking in the upper lot and how the lots
were built on. Vann replied from the record there was always a service entrance
off of Ute Avenue; there was an increasing use of the back lot by club members.
Vann said that Dick Buetera came to the city to move the predominate entrance of
the club to Ute Avenue; he wanted to expand the parking significantly. Vann said
there was concern for traffic on Ute; the increase in parking was another level
under the surface parking and there would be a sub grade garage. Speck asked if
Dick Buetera was still an owner. Fox replied that he was not.
John Rowland asked if the existing employees were mitigated for. Lindt replied
there was the same amount of net leaseable space in the existing club as well as the
new revised plan, so the code doesn't require additional employee mitigation for
the change. Rowland asked where was the employee parking located. Vann
responded there was parking for the employees across the river and there would be
spaces provided adjacent to the employee units. Rowland asked if there was a
phasing plan for construction. Vann replied the project would be built at once but
construction management was a key issue. Lindt noted the construction
management plan requirements of the city were fairly extensive; haul routes,
access points, equipment, construction parking and dust suppression.
Jasmine Tygre asked if there was not representation by the former owner in 1996
when the entrance changed that this was needed to save the club. Lindt said the
minutes did not reflect that but Council wanted to limit the amount of parking back
on Ute as an auto disincentive for one as well as concern for the impacts on Ute
Avenue.
Dylan Johns asked if there were other destination spas that were timeshare. Vann
answered St. Regis. Fox replied that Canyon Ranch was both and Golden Door
operates as a timeshare because the people come for the same 2 weeks almost
every year.
Public Comments:
I. Michael Hoffman, attorney representing Stewart Lasher and Rhodes Hart,
showed the properties owned by these two individuals were on either side of the
bridge. Hoffman said the development would have a substantial impact on his
clients' properties because they currently look at tennis courts and trees and if this
is approved they will see II townhomes. Hoffman said it will affect their view
plane, increase noise, light and the activity level. Hoffman questioned the
neighborhood compatibility with this development due to the increase in usage by
the fractional component and stated that it was not compatible with the AACP.
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2. Paul Taddune, attorney representing the property owners to the east and
were the grandchildren of William and Eleanor Stephenson, said their property was
not depicted on the maps. Taddune stated the reasons for not approving this
project were the same as the reasons Michael Hoffman described. Taddune said
this project was in effect moving the downtown core out to the periphery of the
city.
3. Rick Head applauded Michael and Sunny for a great presentation. Head
stated, as a 12 year neighbor, he thought this was consistent with what was going
on and hoped the commission would look favorably upon the entire application.
Head noted the parking component was essential because parking was a problem in
the neighborhood.
4. Kathleen Tracy, Susan Komen Foundation, spoke to the value of the Aspen
Club within in the community and how much the Aspen Club has given to the
Foundation.
5. Mike Otte stated he was an officer and owner (40%) of the Benedict
Building known as the Powderhouse Condominium Association. Otte said
Buetera converted part of the parking lot into two expensive lots and then he sold
the club. Otte said that the team was of high quality that Michael has employed
and he supported Michael Hoffman and Paul Taddune that this was not the right
thing for that end of Ute Avenue. Otte said there were 2 elements related to the
road; snow plows can't plow with speed bumps and the houses place there snow
from their driveways into the streets which makes the road thinner and thinner as
winter goes on. Otte suggested checking the drainage.
6. Linda Schmehl, the general manager of the Aspen Club, spoke on behalf of
the employees of the Club, who were dedicated and excited about this proposal.
Schmehl stated that they have looked at the market of people who come to Aspen
and understand the people to find a fit for the people to find out what Aspen was
all about and to find a way to help this club grow.
7. Pete McClain said that he lived in the Ute Park Townhomes and seconded
what Rick Head said about approving this proposal with as many parking spaces as
possible.
8. Sasha Haas said that she did the marketing at the Aspen Club but prior to
working at the Aspen Club she was a member of the Club. Haas asked the
commission to approve this proposal. Haas stated the Aspen Club was involved in
the community.
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9. Bruce Fritz said that he was an owner of the townhomes across the river; he
stated that the Aspen Club was a good neighbor. Fritz said of the 22 townhomes,
duplexes and 12 homes there were only 3 owners that this was a principal
residence. Fritz spoke of the nature of the residences as being second homes for
many of the owners, excluding himself and his wife, this was their only home.
10. James Lindt read a letter from Sue Hollensworth who objected to the
proposal concerns for the setbacks for the affordable housing units.
Bill Poss, architect, introduced Kim Weil and provided a model of the project,
which described the context of the immediate buildings around the site but doesn't
show how far the entrance was from the parking on the other side ofthe river.
Poss explained the architecture, the outdoor pool, the underground parking and
access. Poss said there was a landscape buffer and relocated the service yard to the
back. The employee units have covered parking underneath the units. The roofs
were gabled and pitched for a residential look to the townhomes and residences.
Poss said they were staying within the height limit in the code of 28 feet and there
would be an entrance directly from the parking garage into the club or facilities.
Poss utilized renderings to show the entrances and pool area.
Kim Weil said there was a Stream Margin Review and the top of bank was mapped
and detailed following the Stream Margin Review Guidelines in the Code without
a variance request.
Jasmine Tygre asked if there was any more information on the vertical envelope.
Vann replied in researching the record the height was represented as a certain
height with topography taken into account.
MOTION: Ruth Kruger moved to continue the public hearingfor the Aspen Club
Conceptual PUD to September 27th; seconded by Brain Speck. All infavor,
approved.
A site visit was slated for Tuesday, September 27,2005 at noon on site.
ckie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk
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