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Aspen Ci.ty Council
October 24~ 2005
CITIZEN COMMENTS ..................................................................................................... 2
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS .................... , ............................................................. 2
CONSENT CALENDAR .......................................................... i ............................................ 2
· Resolution//83, 2005 -BTE Contract Parking Garage Stairs ................................ 3
· Resolution//84, 2005 - EOTC Brush Creek Park 'n' Ride Expansion Contract
Part II .............................................................................................................................. 3
· Minutes - October 11, 2005 .................................................................................... 3
HISTORIC PRESERVATION LOAN- WELGOS .......................................................... 3
ORDINANCE//45, SERIES OF 2005 - Supplemental Appropriation ..............................3
RESOLUTION//69, SERIES OF 2005 - Lodge at Aspen Mountain Conceptual PUD .... 3
ORDINANCE//44, SERIES OF 2005 - Wagar Annexation ........................................... 10
ORDINANCE//43, SERIES OF 2005 - Wagar/Detweiler Subdivision .......................... 10
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October 24~ 2005
Mayor Klandemd called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with Councilmembers Torre,
Richards, DeVilbiss and Johnson present.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
1. Dick Butera said Council and staff spend a lot of time trying to protect Aspen's,
buildings, history and environment. Butera said there are some areas in town that do not
look good. Butera passed out photographs of these areas and noted that compared to the
work that has been done to spruce up the city, these are eyesores on many comers. These
are the rows of newspaper boxes. Butera said he does not know whether this is a First
Amendment issue but CounCil should look for some solutions. Butera said Aspen is the
prettiest town in America except for some small spots. John Worcester, city attorney,
told Council he worked on a newspaper rack ordinance in the early 90's and stated the
First Amendment is implicated when cities regulate the press. The CCLC has discussed
this periodically for years. Steve Barwick, city manager, noted there was a standard for
newspaper racks developed for the DEPP project, and better racks may be an issue of
funding. Mayor Klandemd encouraged the CCLC and staff to follow up on this.
Councilman DeVilbiss agreed the city should look at this and see what will work to clean
up the areas.
2. Diane Kessler thanked Council for money last year to bring the Northern Ute tribe
to Aspen at the end of the ski season. Ms. Kessler requested $2100 to bring the Northern
Ute Indians again to Aspen to perform blessing ceremonies for the opening and closing of
the ski season and for Winterskol. This money is to defray gas and food expenses.
Mayor Klandemd suggested this be added to the budget discussions. Ms. Kessler told
Council there are in-kind contributions from the Ski Company in lift tickets and from
some lodges.
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS
1. Councilman DeVilbiss stated he was disappointed that the newspapers did not
pick up the story about naming of the Bergman trail. Councilman DeVilbiss said he
received comments about the eloquence of the proclamation and commended the author,
Mayor Klandemd.
2. Loren Ryerson, chief of police, told Council Aspen Junior Hockey will be hosting
the "fall Face Off" hockey tournaments over the next 3 weekends and 80 teams and their
families will be coming to Aspen to play at the Ice Garden and at the ARC. These
families are staying in local hotels and eating in local restaurants.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Mayor Klandemd stated she has a conflict of interest on the Historic Preservation loan
and requested it be pulled. Councilman Torre moved to approve the consent calendar as
amended:
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Resolution//83, 2005 -BTE Contract Parking Garage Stairs
Resolution/484, 2005 - EOTC Brash Creek Park 'n' Ride Expansion Contract
Part II
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HISTORIC PRESERVATION LOAN- WELGOS
Councilman Torre moved to approve the historic preservation loan for Welgos; seconded
by Councilman DeVilbiss. All in favor; Mayor Klandemd abstained, motion carded.
ORDINANCE #45~ SERIES OF 2005- Supplemental Appropriation
Councilman Torre moved to read Ordinance//45, Series of 2005; seconded by
Councilman DeVilbiss. All in favor, motion carded.
ORDINANCE NO. 45
(Series of 2005)
AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING AN INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND
EXPENDITURES OF $400,221 AN INCREASE IN THE PARKS FUND OF $27,200,
AN INCREASE IN THE KIDS FIRST FUND OF $20,000, AN INCREASE IN THE
PARKS CAPITAL FUND OF $90,000, AN INCREASE IN THE WATER FUND OF
$40,000, AN INCREASE IN THE ELECTRIC FUND OF $249,513, AN INCREASE IN
THE TRANSPORTATION FUND OF $80,000, AN INCREASE IN THE TRUSCOTT
FUND OF $ 35,000.
Councilman Torre moved to adopt Ordinance//45, Series of 2005, on first reading;
seconded by Councilman DeVilbiss.
Mayor Klandemd asked about the police request for $59,000 for insurance and whether
the police savings of $30,000 is added to this for a total insurance cost of $89,000. Paul
Menter, finance director, told Council insurance and workers' compensation costs have
gone up and some departments need an appropriation to cover those costs. The total
costs for the police department include the savings.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Richards yes; Johnson, yes; Torre, yes; DeVilbiss, yes;
Mayor Klandemd, yes. Motion carded.
Councilman Torre moved to continue Ordinance//37, Series of 2005, to November 14;
seconded by Councilman DeVilbiss. All in favor, motion carried.
RESOLUTION #69~ SERIES OF 2005 - Lodge at Aspen Mountain Conceptual PUD
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Councilman Johnson left due to a conflict of interest.
Chris Bendon, community development department, reminded Council on September 12th
they had an overview of the project and September 26th there was a public heating and
the applicant heard Council's concerns. The applicants have amended their application t°
meet those concerns. Bendon noted the first issue was size and massing; Council
indicated concern about the project being too large. The applicant made revisions to the
heights, which affected the room counts and site amenities. The resolution before
Council has been updated to reflect these changes.
Bendon reminded Council they were concerned about the affordable housing, location
and quality. The applicants made revisions to the affordable housing. The original plan
had 12 studio units, north facing, below the pool deck area. The new proposal has 6
studio units and 4 two-bedroom units and they have been relocated on the site. Bendon
said at the last hearing there was a question on whether replacement units have to be
located on site. Bendon said they have to be on the site but they may be on a separate
parcel, which is part of the same PUD. Bendon told Council the applicant has been
responsive and there have been improvements in this project to address Council's
concerns.
Bendon said another area of concern is the delivery location; half the neighbors want the
traffic routed up South Aspen and half the neighbors want it routed up Garmisch. Staff
feels South Aspen is a more appropriate street to route delivery traffic; it is a wider street
with thicker asphalt. Bendon noted there are deficiencies on South Aspen street and
these need to be addressed through this application. Capital and operational
improvements will need to be addressed. The applicant has agreed to address these
issues in their final application.
Bendon stated staff supports this application and feels it is superior to the approved plan
for 14 town houses. The applicant has been responsive to the neighbors, to P&Z, to staff
and to Council's concerns.
John Sarpa, applicant, said the applicants heard that Council preferred a hotel in this
location to townhouses but the building was too big, too tall. Sarpa told Council the
applicants contacted hotel operators with whom they have been negotiating and as a
result were able to take off a story in the center portion of the hotel, sarpa noted the
proposal went from 85 hotel rooms to 80 hotel rooms. The restaurant and the ballroom,
which was two floors on the south end of the project, were reduced. The ballroom was-'
reduced to meeting rooms tucked under the mountain. The restaurant was moved closer
to the lobby. There is 3,000 square feet of meeting room and the large room can seat up
to 150 people. Sarpa pointed out the public spaces were overly large. The back of the
house spaces was shrunk. Square footage was eliminated and the common space was
reconfigured. Sarpa showed where a floor was taken out of the middle of the project and
the resulting 11 foot reduction in height. Councilwoman Richards asked the FAR
reduction from the previous design. Kim Weil, architect, said this is an 11,000 square
feet reduction. Sarpa noted the building was lowered near Juan street houses.
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Sarpa noted the second challenge was the on-site affordable housing. These were
relocated to an area that previously had free market units. The affordable housing is all
above grade and 6 studios and 4 two-bedroom units have replaced the 11 studios and 1
two-bedroom unit. Spa treatment rooms have replaced the affordable housing space.
The building has been sunk. The FAR is below 2:1. Sarpa told Council at final they
might request another level of parking below the north building, which would increase
the parking below the north below from 80 to 160. There are 156 parking spaces
designed to comply with the code requirement for parking. The applicants may ask for
additional below ground spaces.
Sarpa told Council the applicants have had preliminary discussions with the new owners
of the Holland House who are willing to participate in the process to make Aspen street
safer. Sarpa said the applicants will work with RMI on environmental impacts, energy
efficiency both on the building and on safety of Aspen street.
Weil showed that 11,400 square feet came off the top of the building. Some of the
double height space was filled in; the ballroom was changed to meeting spaces. The
original project was 185,400 square feet and this is 181,000. Sunny Vann, representing
the applicants, said when designing this project, the applicants tried to keep in mind the
proposed lodge code amendments and their dimensional requirements. Vann said for a
site of this size, the code amendment would allow 2.5'1 FAR. Sarpa noted the height of
this project has gone from 60' to 49'. Sarpa stated it is this hotel or the townhouse
project. Sarpa said this is the first new hotel project presented to Council in 15 years.
Vann said it is difficult to finance a hotel off just nightly rentals. The new city lodge
code allows some free market space to help finance a project. Vann said they have tried
to keep this project at 80/20 (hotel/free market).
Vann told Council the Mine Dumps has 16 multi-family units with 23 bedrooms and
7700 square feet. The applicants are required to replace 50% of the bedrooms and 50%
of the square footage. The proposal is for 12 bedrooms. The code has been modified
since the submission to also require 50% of the units. The applicants are proposing 10
units and more than the required bedrooms. Vann told Council there will be affordable
housing proposed for the project in a site in the east end of town. These will be more
family-type units, fourplex configuration. There will also be units at the ABC available
for affordable housing. The actual mitigation of employees will be part of the final
submission so the number of employees generated can be fine tuned. The housing
authority will review this before it is reviewed and approved by Council. The applicants
stated in the conceptual application 150 to 200 employees will be generated. This could
be increased or decreased with the final program. The applicants have committed to
housing 60% of the employees within the city and the rest within the urban growth
boundary.
Councilwoman Richards asked about the traffic generation numbers. Vann said the
applicants did a traffic analysis, which was reviewed by the city engineer. The issue is
not the generation of traffic but the impact in the winter and the condition of Aspen
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street. The project has been designed not to take the majority of traffic all the way up the
hill. Councilwoman Richards asked if there is a contribution to storm water runoff.
Vann told Council a project like this cannot be done with drywells. In cases where
discharge to the storm sewer is a requirement, the engineering department imposes a
condition and requires a pro rata contribution to the city's overall storm water
management plan. Councilwoman Richards said she would like to see the connectivity to
the rest of the city's systems.
Councilwoman Richards asked about the depth of the sub-structure, how deep will this go
into the mountain. Councilwoman Richards said she is concerned about the stability of
Aspen mountain. Sarpa told Council most of the drainage flows are east of this site.
Sarpa said they were careful not to go farther into the mountain than necessary. Weil
said the largest cuts are 30 to 35' in depth. The Residences and the Hyatt are both much
deeper. Weil showed where the underground parking areas will be.
Councilwoman Richards asked the size of the free market units. There are 4 whole
ownership units of 4,000 square feet, 3 units in the south building and 1 in the middle.
Weil said moving the restaurant down to the lobby lev61 eliminated one kitchen, and
there is now one kitchen to serve both the restaurant and the meeting rooms. Councilman
DeVilbiss asked the underlying density in this zone district. Bendon said for multi-
family the requirement is 3,000 square feet of lot area per unit and there is no
requirement or limitation on lodge units.
Mayor Klandemd opened the public heating.
Karen Fletcher, Juan street resident, said the size of this building on 2.4 acres is out of
character and seems too big for this area. There will be a large impact on this area with
the Chart House, Dancing Bear, and Limelite. There is a concern on construction traffic
and construction parking. Ms. Fletcher said she is very concerned about the delivery
entrance fight next to Juan street. Bart Johnston, Timberridge, said this is an
improvement over the last presentation. The affordable housing used to look straight into
the Timberridge units and the spa area will be less intrusive. Timberridge supports this
project.
Kirsten Morgan, Juan street homeowners, stated they support the project. It is a good
plan that will benefit the town. This is better than the backup plan. The developer has
worked with the homeowners and their support is contingent on continued involvement
as this project moves forward.
Letters from Dwayne Romero, Simon Pinniger, Todd Klingworth and Richard Holland in
favor and a phone call from Frank Dolinsek stating the project is .still too big and it
should stay within the code were entered into the record.
Mayor Klandemd closed the public heating.
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Sarpa stated this is a good balance of the needs of the community to have a new hotel in
the fight location and a balance of the community aesthetic, how to take care of tourists
and to keep Aspen Aspen. Sarpa said another goal is to' bring some activity to this side
of Aspen, to put in a new lift, to fix Aspen street and to make the final connection on
Dean street all the way to the gondola. This will anchor and offset the other side of the
mountain. Sarpa stated this process has worked. The applicants spent a lot of time
before appearing before Council with staff, neighbors and P&Z, all of whom had
important input. Sarpa said the applicants feel this is better than the alternative of 14
townhouses. The townhouse approval does not have any requirement to address Aspen
street; there would be no lift. The townhouses are more intrusive on the neighbors
because they are on the property line. Sarpa said this is the fight project for the west side
of Aspen mountain and is a good balance for the community.
Councilwoman Richards asked how many square feet the townhouses would be. Vann
said it was designed at 1'1 FAR; the site is 90,000 square feet. Councilwoman Richards
noted that the townhouses, if built, would be 2/3 smaller than the hotel and asked if it is
the nature of the use that makes the hotel more attractive. Sarpa said it is the nature of
the uses, the community impact, and the community benefits. Vann said after many
discussions with P&Z and with Council, the city adopted up to 3'1 FAR on sites of
27,000 square feet or less and up to 2.5:1 on sites over 27,000 square feet for new lodge
development. Vann reminded Council this building is broken up and is below 2:1. There
are some heights over allowable code; however, this is a place in town where a building
could be located and from most places in town it cannot be seen. This location can
accommodate the proposed FAR and the proposed height. Vann stated a 1'1 FAR hotel
does not work in today's economics; units and bathrooms have to be larger. The
applicants have dealt with a neighborhood that is a short term rentals but where the
buildings are smaller scale and were built in the 1960's and 1970's. In order to have the
neighbors accept this project, the edges are lower and the building is taller in other
portions. The design helps reduce the impact of the height.
Councilman DeVilbiss asked if the size of the free market townhouses is fixed. Bendon
said there were no variances requested and the design complied with the underlying code.
These units are approved and vested. This applicant purchased the property and in order
to protect the investment, they obtained final approval for the residential project. The
applicants would prefer to build a hotel on this site; if they cannot build a hotel., they will
revert back to the residential approval.
Councilman Torre said this approval would set a precedent in this area and on South
Aspen street. Vann stated this applicant came in anticipating the code amendments in
process. Vann said anyone who applies now will apply under the lodge code rather than
under the PUD regulations. Sarpa said this piece of land is the largest so it is unlikely
someone would come in under the PUD with other pieces of property. Sarpa said other
developments in this area should be smaller than this proposal and complementary to this
lodge. Vann reiterated the city passed new legislation to encourage the development of
new lodge rooms. New hotels have been unfeasible unless an applicant was willing to
come in under the PUD regulations and make an argument for why more height or mass
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was needed. The new legislation affects all the lodge zoned land in the community. It is
reasonable to assume that people with lodge zoned property would come in to try and
process a lodge under the new regulations.
Councilman DeVilbiss stated he has heard justifications for this project in terms of
financial feasibility. The city has never looked at the economics to determine to what
extent these assertions are tree. Councilman DeVilbiss asked what happens to the renters
at the Mine Dumps. Councilman DeVilbiss said when the height regulations were raised
from 28' to 42', people did not envision this meant 50'. Councilman DeVilbiss said there
are four 4,000 free market units proposed, which is large. Councilman DeVilbiss asked if
making these units smaller would lower the height. Councilman DeVilbiss said he does
not doubt that what is built would resemble these drawings; however, his reservations
about height, scale and mass remain. Councilman DeVilbiss stated he opposes heights of
this type.
John Worcester, city attorney, stated there is no requirement in the city code for financial
information. The applicant has made representations about the financial feasibility and
Councilman DeVilbiss would like that proved. Mayor Klandemd asked if the size of the
free market units were reduced, what would that do to the height of the building. Weil
said these are not built in parts of the building that are the tallest.
Sarpa noted what is happening in the lodge industry was submitted as part of this
application. The ability to finance a stand alone hotel has diminished and there is a large
interest in combining hotels with residential components. In order to provide an 80 room
hotel, there is a free market piece to help finance the project. Councilman DeVilbiss said
there needs to be a level of transparency so that citizens can understand the basis on
which decisions are made. Councilman DeVilbiss stated he is not willing to vote
conceptual approval until he has that financial information.
Mayor Klandemd noted the city has not made that request of other applicants. Bendon
said there are no standards in the land use code to critique that information. Mayor
Klandemd said how does Council vote on a margin of profit, or say what is a reasonable
rate of return. Councilwoman Richards pointed out the lodge code amendments were an
attempt to state what the city will accept. That code was adopted with a 42' height limit
as a constraining factor on the building. Councilwoman Richards said the free market
project was approved at 46,000 square feet compared to this project with 68,000 square
feet of fractional and free market units in this proposed lodge.
Mayor Klandemd stated this decision that affects the future of the community. This
project did not come in under the new lodge regulations, which were adopted in 2005.
Vann reiterated the new regulations would allow 2,5'1 FAR to cover the entire site with a
42' high building. Vann said this application is a better utilization of the site and is more
interesting than a 2.5' 1, 42' high building. The project is in compliance with the height
regulations on the perimeter of the building and is higher than 42' where it has little
impact. Sarpa said another part of this proposal is to improve the west side of the
mountain and the town. Mayor Klandemd agreed a hotel in this location makes more
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sense than the townhouses as approved. During the discussions on infill, Council decided
this area was not appropriate for single family or town home development. Mayor
Klandemd stated the city has no standards to insure fairness by which to make a decision
on financial information. Sarpa said financing a large, complex project like this is not
easy and there is a limited field of interested investors.
Councilwoman Richards acknowledged the work the applicant did with the neighbors,
trying to meet different sets of needs. This is a good standard for the development
community' Councilwoman Richards acknowledge the cuts that were made in the last
month. COuncilwoman Richards said this project brings life and apres ski back to lift lA,
which is good. This is a 2:1 FAR on a large site, which is a reasonable ratio. The
proposal brings lodge beds to the base of the mountain. Councilwoman Richards stated
she is struggling with the 50' height and 180,000 square feet, the totality of the building
across the site. Councilwoman Richards said one side may define the economy in the
future and the other side defines Aspen's character. Councilwoman Richards said she
cannot support this project because of the size and the height versus defining Aspen's
long term character. COuncilwoman Richards said Council has an obligation to make
sure they get it fight.
Councilwoman Richards said she would like to find a win/win/win solution although she
does not know the specifics. Councilwoman Richards stated she does not want to
approve additional height or size if that is to finance a lift on Aspen mountain.
Councilwoman Richards suggested a partnership with the city, exploring tax increment
financing to allow the project to go forward without the size required by the financial
drivers. Councilwoman Richards stated this is an appropriate site for a lodge.
Councilwoman Richards said approving this without knowing about other developments
on Aspen street is a concern, the traffic, the streetscape and the ambience.
Councilwoman Richards said she is willing to explore other ways to keep this project
viable but smalleri
Councilman Torre said he would give them an opportunity to move to final review and
that the applicant knows they have serious cOnditions to meet at final review. Sarpa said
he does not know a way to make this project smaller. The applicants have worked on the
project for two years to make it the way it is. Sarpa noted the applicants tried hard to
design this so it does not look like Vail. Councilwoman Richards said she would like to
see more work toward reducing the height and the square footage. Councilwoman
Richards stated maybe this project should not be paying for a new lift.
Councilwoman Richards moved to continue Resolution #69, Series of 2005, to November
28; seconded by Councilman Torre.
Councilman Torre said making decisions based on financial information is not within
Council's scope. Councilman Torre said room mix is important to him. Councilman
Torre said his concerns have to do with affordable housing, the layout and configuration,
South Aspen street, construction traffic mitigation. These can be addressed at final
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review. Councilman DcVilbiss stated as along as an applicants make the assertion that
economics require certain things, Council has an obligation to verify those claims.
All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #44~ SERIES OF 2005 - Wagar Annexation
ORDINANCE #43~ SERIES OF 2005 - Wagar/Detweiler SubdiviSion
Councilman Johnson is not taking part in this discussion because of a conflict of interest.
John Worcester, city attorney, pointed out the map showing lots 1 and 2, which are in the
city, and a parcel to the north to be annexed into the city. Worcester said state law
requires zoning to be done after an annexation and suggested Council consider the land
use application, then approve the annexation. If Council denies the land use proposal, the
annexation will be withdrawn.
Joyce Allgaier, community development department, went over the exhibits A- staff
findings, B - Council packet 4/2004; C - P&Z resolution//29, 2005; D - additional
information requested by Council at first reading; E- hard boards vicinity map and
Wagar/Detweiler plat proposal, and the application of June 14, 2005. Ms. Allgaier said
the PUD amendment is necessary because previously there was an approval for this
property and a PUD amendment in 2004, where the lot sizes and setback variations were
established. There is also request for subdivision because of the lot line adjustment. Ms.
Allgaier pointed out the area to be annexed and the proposed lot line readjustment.
Ms. Allgaier reminded Council in April 2003, a fire gutted the duplex on this site. The
applicants came in and requested that rather than redevelop the duplex, they be allowed
two development fights to build two single family residences, with each residence having
3400 square feet. This was a .3' 1 FAR. Lots 1 is 11,237 square feet and lot 2 is 11,400
square feet, less than the required 15,000 in the R-15 zone. The owners proposed to
annex land to the north, adjust the lot line between the two lots to achieve lots of 14,400
and 14,600 square feet, closer to the required lot size. The owners propose the floor area
be that allowed in the R-15 zone. This would allow 4400 square feet on lot 1 and 4200
square feet on lot 2. Ms. Allgaier said the only variance requested for setbacks in the
front yard; 25 feet is required and the applicants are requesting 10 feet. The applicants
will have a larger rear yard setback.
Ms. Allgaier told Council P&Z felt this was a new application with new circumstances of
additional land through annexation. P&Z thought moving closer to standard 15,000
square feet lot sizes was a desirable outcome. Ms. Allgaier said at first reading Council
asked for minutes of actions on this property from 2004. Council also asked for a zoning
map of the surrounding area, which is exhibit D. Ms. Allgaier pointed out there are a
variety of zone districts in this area, R-15, AH/PUD, R-6 and county R-15. The
immediate neighborhood is R-15, which is why that is reasonable zoning. Ms. Allgaier
told Council there is an e-mail from Suzanne Wolff, county planner, indicating the
property was not conveyed using open space funds and there are no open space
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restrictions on this property from the county. Councilman DeVilbiss said the question
about setbacks was answered to his satisfaction.
Ms. Allgaier said staff and P&Z agree that lots conforming to the zone district size is
good policy. Ms. Allgaier said with increased lot sizes, there could be increased FAR on
these lots. Ms. Allgaier said the floor area ratio would be the same, around .3' 1. Staff
and P&Z are recommending R-15 zoning as compatible with the surrounding area.
Councilwoman Richards asked if the R-15 zoning is turned down, would the existing
FARs from the previous PUD approval stand. Ms. Allgaier said the floor area ratios
agreed to last year would stand.
Councilwoman Richards asked if the parcel to the north, which is the subject of the
proposed annexation, would be large enough to be a lot with a building fight. Ms.
Allgaier said this lot was the subject of a lot split approval by the county; however, she
does not know what size house could be built. Mayor Klandemd asked about affordable
housing mitigation. Stan Clauson, representing the applicant, said based on the proposed
size of the house, there wOuld be a mitigation payment at time of building permit.
Clauson said this property in the county would be annexed and added to the subject
property to create more generous size lots. Clauson said for lot 2, which has a house
under construction, this will allow more margins around the structure. Lot 1 will allow
more latitude for design. Clauson showed how these structures with setbacks would
appear. The country regulations for setback vary from 0 to 6 feet. The applicants
calculated the average on Park Circle, which is 10 feet. The applicants feel that is
reasonable for both parcels. Clauson pointed out the county parcel, A, has a perpetual
easement to Wagar on it. In order for the county to sell that parcel the easement would
have to be vacated. The reconfiguration allows a more generous lot with more latitude
for design.
Clauson told Council during the heating on this property last year, the applicants
requested a FAR based on the zoning chart. P&Z came up with an FAR of 3400 square
feet. Clauson stated the city has a zoning code with allowable floor area and any
property owner in that district should be able to use that Zoning code to determine the size
of their house. Clauson said they do not feel this is an excessive request. Clauson
quoted from the March 2004 P&Z minutes where a P&Z member noted if parcel A were
purchased and added to these two lots, the lots would be less short of the 15,000 square
foot requirement. The applicants were on record that they would try and make this
arrangement. Clauson said this is consistent in terms of floor area; it rationalizes a
situation; it provides for sidewalk. Clauson said this is a minimal request and consistent
with the code. Mayor Klandemd asked what size building would be allowed on parcel A
if it were in the city. Chris Bendon, community development department, said a 3240
square foot house would be allowed.
Mayor Klandemd opened the public heating. There were no comments. Mayor
Klandemd closed the public heating.
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Mayor Klandemd stated this Proposal would increase the potential for larger floor area on
these two parcels. Originally there was a non-conforming duplex. After the duplex
burned, the Council agreed to 3400 square feet for each of two single family dwellings
last year. Clauson reiterated the city has a zoning code and staff counsels that the zoning
code should be followed. Clauson said the zoning code would allow for a larger house
but it allows anyone with a 15,000 square foot lot to have a house that size.
Councilwoman Richards said Council does not have to approve the annexation or to
approve reconfiguring the lots. Councilwoman Richards noted the duplex was 5760
square feet. Because of the hardship of the fire, splitting the bulk of that building into
two smaller buildings was argued to be a community benefit. Staff proposed that 5760
square feet be split between two structures. P&Z and Council agreed to allow 3400
square feet each, a total of 6800 square feet, an increase of 1100 square feet. This request
of annexation and resubdividing would add another 2000 square feet, a 25% increase.
Councilwoman Richards stated there is a point where these increases take away the
community benefit of the lot split and dividing the mass into two pieces. Councilwoman
Richards said a factor of her earlier decision to allow 3400 square feet was that there was
a ground easement on the land to the north owned by the county, and that parcel would
not be developed and that these two houses would be in scale. Councilwoman Richards
said she cannot approve using land with a perpetual easement and converting that to
buildable FAR to increase the house sizes by another 25%. Councilwoman Richards said
this is 3,000 square feet larger than the duplex that was allowed. Clauson reiterated the
allowable FAR of 4462 and 4275 square feet are directly from the zoning code.
Mayor Klandemd said she agreed with the two lots, two single family proposal as a better
development and a reasonable compromise. Mayor Klandemd stated she is
uncomfortable with another proposal incrementally getting larger. Mayor Klandemd said
the compromise of 3400 square feet/lot made sense for the neighborhood.
Councilwoman Richards said she does not find the addition of this land formally to the
parcels a compelling argument to increase the FAR. Councilwoman Richards stated she
took parcel A into consideration when making the last decision.
Ms. Allgaier noted staff supports two lots closer to conforming sizes for the zone district.
Councilwoman Richards said she would not have supported the original proposal if it
would have resulted in a 3,000 square foot FAR increase. Rich Wagar, applicant, said
the easement was owned by he and by Detweiler and is an access easement. Wagar
asked if there is an FAR between 3400 and the allowable that Council might accept.
Mayor Klandemd said the larger lots with no development would make an enhanced
property.
Councilwoman Richards said she sees some value in straightening the lines between the
two lots. Councilman DeVilbiss said he supports not increasing the FAR for the reasons
mentioned by the members of Council who reviewed this earlier. Clauson suggested
Council could approve a larger lot size with no increase in FAR. Mayor Klandemd said
she is willing to approve an anneXation with the FAR at 3400 square feet.
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Regular Meeting
Aspen Ci~. Council
October 24~ 2005
Worcester suggested amending the ordinance in Section 1, paragraph 3, to change 4462
to 3400 square feet and 4275~ would be amended to 3400 square feet. In the annexation
ordinance, Section 1 would be amended to state ~that the tract of land described in the
petition for annexation commonly referred to as the Wagar/Dctw¢iler subdivision and as
shown as the annexation map is hereby annexed to the city of Aspen subject to a pre-
annexation agreement whereby applicant agrees to the FAR limitation as set forth in
Ordinance #43, Series of 2005". Wagar and Detweiler both stated this is acceptable to
them.
Mayor Klandemd opened the public heating on Ordinance #44, Series of 2005. There
were no comments. Mayor Klandemd closed the public heating.
Councilman DeVilbiss moved to adopt Ordinance//44, Series of 2005, as amended;
seconded by Councilwoman Richards. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Richards, yes;
Torre, yes; DeVilbiss yes; Mayor Klandemd, yes. Motion carried.
Mayor Klandemd opened the public heating on Ordinance//43, Series of 2005. There
were no comments. Mayor Klandemd closed the public hearing.
COuncilwoman Richards moved to adopt Ordinance//43, Series of 2005, as amended
with the FAR as discussed; seconded by Councilman DeVilbiss. Roll call vote;
Councilmembers Torre, yes; DeVilbiss, yes; Richards, yes; Mayor Klanderud, yes.
Motion carried.
Councilman Torre moved to go into executive session at 9:15 p.m. pursuant to C.R.S. 24-
6-402(4)(a) acquisition of property, to discuss two separate parcels, one of which is
Smuggler Mountain; seconded by Councilman DeVilbiss. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilman DcVilbiss moved to come out of executive session at 9:35 p.m.; seconded by
Councilman Torr¢. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilwoman Richards moved to adjourn at 9:35 p.m.; seconded by Councilman Torre.
All in favor, motion carried.
Kathryn S. Koch, City Clerk
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