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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19930526Historic Preservation Committee Minutes of May 26, 1993 CITY SHOP - FINAL 1080 POWER PLANT ROAD POPCORN WAGON - MINOR DEVELOPMENT 716 W. FRANCIS - BELLINA RESIDENCE - MINOR DEVELOPMENT PIONEER PARK ASPEN HISTORIC TRUST FENCE MINOR DEVELOPMENT 700 W. FRANCIS STREET 1 3 5 5 6 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE Minutes of May 26, 1993 Meeting was called to order by Vice-chairman Joe Krabacher with Les Holst, Jake Vickery, Martha Madsen, Roger Moyer, Bill Poss and Linda Smisek present. Donnelley Erdman and Karen Day were excused. COMMITTEE COMMENTS Joe: Did the City get approval to put the hand rails on outside this building. That is of a concern to this committee. CITY SHOP - FINAL 1080 POWER PLANT ROAD Chairman Bill Poss opened the public hearing. Amy: There were a few additions to one of the bays in the new building. I feel this project is what we are looking for in terms of meeting the secretary of standards. The architect agreed to follow the restoration standards. Dave Gibson: We have material samples to show you and one is a heavy gauge of cortin for the roof at an 18 gauge. The walls are proposed out of the same material also. The attic of the historic building has character and we are going to try to re-create some of that character in the new buildings. To go with the cortin which is a mono-chromatic palate which we have established for the walls and roofs. We are proposing on the mullions of the windows and doors an anodized system. On the historic we would paint the wood windows that same color. We would have the same detail and same color. For the large overhead doors we are proposing a deep red. On the cleaning of the brick we will do test areas and determine the method of cleaning before we have the contractor bidding on it. on the pointing we will use a natural grade of sand. We are proposing to do the sidewalks in a colored concrete as well. I would like to have a good match between the colors of the old brick and new brick. Jake: What color is in the new mortar. David: I would like to tint the new mortar as the old is not tinted at all. Roger: have a wood? By tinting that is a differentiation and will be fired and different sheen. Is the covering on the overhead doors David: It is wood and will be painted and treated. It will be a flat look. Linda: What kind of materials are you using around the site? David: The main yard will be gray natural concrete and the sidewalks and walls will be a tinted concrete ( reddish brown). Historic Preservation committee Minutes of May 26, 1993 Linda: Will this building house all the equipment? David: That is the reason for doing this building. parking in the yard except employee vehicles. To get no Next door neighbor: I feel this project will improve the area immensely. I look at all the trucks daily as we own property on Sneaky Lane. Bill Poss closed the public hearing. Amy: Is portland going to be included in the mortar? David: The arches over the two new doors I would like to add some. The guidelines say you can add about 7% portland cement. Or one part cement and five parts lime and ten parts sand. I would like to do that over the doors. Amy: I would recommend using some portland. Also do you intend to clean the whole historic building in the same method. David: We would do a medium pressure power wash over the entire building. Roger: Have the historic windows ever been painted? David: Yes, they were painted with a gray enamel. Jake: You discussed the sandstone around the entrance to the new office building and you have a sandstone band that goes around. That is a new material being introduced. David: I feel it is like the next step with the same material. MOTION: Roger made the motion that the HPC grant Final Development approval for the city Shop located at 1080 Power Plant Road townsite of Aspen with the following conditions: 1) At least two project monitors be assigned. 2) Before any masonry work is performed that appropriate mixtures be determined and approved by Staff. 3) Staff and one monitor coordinate with the cleaning process. 4) Staff and or monitor approve the disposal of any historic buildings or other parts. 5) Architect and City work closely with Staff and monitors at all times to ensure that there are no problems and that there is a close communication; second by Jake. All in favor, motion carries. Les is monitor and Roger monitor of masonry cleaning and painting. Historic Preservation Committee Minutes of May 26, 1993 POPCORN WAGON - MINOR DEVELOPMENT Amy: The proposal is to replace an existing wood fence with a more substantial concrete/masonry stucco wall. My recommendations were that it doesn't represent a substantial change in size and does represent an improvement in the materials. I recommended that the architect consider a cover and also recommend approval. Scott Smith: I am representing the Popcorn Wagon and we desire an approval to replace the existing wooden trash enclosure with a concrete block structure. As a slight alternation from that the applicant would like to do and feels it is more in keeping with the structures on the site would be keep the new fence enclosure as a painted concrete structure to match the existing building that it sits next too. The new structure would go exactly where the wooden fence is now in the same footprint area. Martha: In this particular situation is this a temporary use or structure or the Popcorn Wagon permanently fixed. Kathy: They had a conditional use approval and is permanent. Joe: What kind of lid is proposed. Scott Smith: We might be over FAR so we are proposing to leave it the way it is right now, open. Bill: Is the committee agreeable to the change of material that is presented to me? Roger: Why do they need this change? Scott Smith: There were two main concerns, one because of the use of the fence for trash enclosures we were concerned that the stucco would not hold up very well and visually detract from that area. The other condition is that we would match the concrete block to the building behind it more closely than introducing another material in that one little area. Roger: Why not simply rebuild the wooden structure as it would not be permanent. Linda: The owners are looking to be able to hose down the area and clean it out after the trash is removed. It is used by Su Casa, L'Opera and people who do not have a real concern. Roger: This trash enclosure is actually for the building which is called the Wheeler Square. Historic Preservation Committee Minutes of May Z6, 1993 Joe: The building is owned by the trust and state of Barnard. Linda: The trash is used by other people. Roger: So the popcorn wagon is on a private lot. Linda: Yes. Jake: I would rather see a restudy to find a material that is compatible and durable, like brick to match L'Opera. Scott Smith: The front of the structure is a metal gate. Roger: We have a cement block building that is non-compatible with that block in this part of town. If we add another cement bumper we are adding to that non-compatibility. We are adding a kind of permanent structure. There is a solution, you put a railing around the area so when the truck slams the dumpster it hits the steel and doesn't put a hole in the block or the stucco or the wood. I would go back to the wood and clean it up and paint it and put a metal railing around the interior and put a substantial frame on to hold the doors. Scott Smith: We would like to have some kind of concrete wall. Bill: You could side the outside of the concrete wall in wood to match the entire block. Jake: It needs to be a nice element as the public walks past. Jack Stanford: We are trying to clean the entire area up. The wagon was built in 1913 and we are trying to make the rest of the area match. It also doesn't meet health code. We have talked with the people from the Wheeler Opera House and they want to see something done because as you are on the second floor looking across it is a real eye sore for the opera house. The trash dumpsters are picked up and put outside on the sidewalk and then picked up and that is not conducive. We are trying to share all the costs for everyone to use. It is on our property, however we do not use it and have our own dumpster area. We are trying to do this the least expensively as no one wants to pay for it. If it is brick I doubt if I could get four restaurants and eight tenants to agree to it. Jake: What they are proposing would be better than what they have. It is six feet high. MOTION: Jake made the motion to approve the minor development of the trash enclosure as presented with the change that the exterior Historic Preservation Committee Minutes of May 26, 1993 would be a split face concrete block color in a sandstone subject to the approval of a monitor and Staff. Also that the applicant consider the interior rail; second by Linda. All in favor, motion carries. Linda is the monitor. Kathy: The CCLC is very concerned about that area and the cracked cement. · 716 W. FRANCIS - BELLINA RESIDENCE - MINOR DEVELOPMENT Amy: The applicant is proposing an ornamental fence for along the property line. MOTION: Roger made the motion to approve the minor development as proposed for 716 W. Francis finding that the fence meets all the standards; second by Jake. All in favor, motion carries. PIONEER PARK ASPEN HISTORIC TRUST FENCE Joe and Les stepped down. Amy: Les, myself and the artist who is doing the design reviewed the site. There is a stone wall and the iron fence sits on top of that. We are trying to negotiate on the other wall so we felt the need for the six foot high fence which the applicant is requesting. Bill: Part of the condition of the sale was a six foot high fence between their property and the park. Les: This is getting complicated, the owner thought they had a fence coming from the house the whole way down but when onsite we discovered that they did not have one and there was a 30 foot section that they did not have a permit for. They are going to come out with the six foot which I do not remember approving. I do not remember approving anything on the east side based on the fact that we didn't give them the deck because we didn't want to see it from the street. Bill: There is a sketch included in the application. Les: My feeling is that we approved the west side and Roxanne signed off. Amy: I do not feel that was the case, drawing and maybe it got overlooked. permit. the fence was shown on the They also have a building 5 Historic Preservation committee Minutes of May 26, 1993 MOTION: Roger made the motion to approve the minor development located at 442 W. Bleeker Street Lots K. L. M. N. O. P Q. R. S. portions of lot A.B.C Townsite of Aspen of the new fence running north and south as drawn; second by Linda. All in favor, motion carries. MINOR DEVELOPMENT 700 W. FRANCIS STREET Amy: The applicant is proposing a fence along the south, east and west lot lines. The fence would be 42 inches on the front and corner. The design is within the criteria of the guidelines. On that basis I approved the fence. Doug McPherson: At some point I would like to do a metal fence but can't afford it right now so will do the picket fence. The front and the east side would be similar to the fence that is around the historic museum. I also want a six foot fence on the west side f. Tharp and myself that would run where the house starts to step in Roxanne stated in my April 8th approval memo that the guidelines were very clear about stockade fences. They are allowed to the rear of the parcel, fence to the front of the parcel need to be open in nature if you choose to have a fence in front. Its all pickets and is similar to the fence on the Dupont house which is on the corner of Bleeker and Monarch. Roger: Will it be painted? Doug: It is redwood but I thought I might not paint and let it weather. Roger: Your house traditionally had a white fence around it. Doug: The fence wasn't high enough to keep my dog in. Bill: Is 42 inches high enough? Doug: Yes, he can jump up but can't get over. Bill: You indicated there will be a space between the pickets? Doug: It is 3/4 to 1/2 inch. Bill: But it is 2 inch spacing on the front. Doug: We found an artist in Kentucky that does the iron fences at $18. a foot and have seen examples. Jake: What will the front gate be? Historic Preservation committee Minutes of May 26, 1993 Doug: Just pickets. Joe: My only concern was having it six feet high along 6th Street as it should be open on that side. Doug: That is the only place that we can put the kennel and I really need that. Joe: Before you mentioned that a 42 inch fence would be high enough for the dog. Doug: I also want that privacy fence for myself and to know when I leave the dog out at night that he will be confined. Jake: I would support that and there are a lot of stockade fences in that area. Doug: We will also be planting shrubs. If the next door area was he Meadows I would not put up a stockade fence. MOTION: Roger made the motion to approve the minor development for 700 W. Francis as submitted finding that it meets all the standards; second by Jake. All in favor, motion carries. MOTION: Jake made the motion to adjourn; second by Martha. Meeting adjourned at 7:00 p.m. Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk