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Minutes of Oct. 28, 1992
311 W. NORTH STREET - LANDMARK - CONCEPTUAL - VARIATION
520 E. COOPER - MINOR DEVELOPMENT - STOREFRONT
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HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE
Minutes of October 28, 1992
Meeting was called to order by Don Erdman with Les Holst, Jake
Vickery, Roger Moyer, Karen Day, Linda Smisek, Joe Krabacher and
Martha Madsen present. Bill Poss was excused.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Linda Romero discussed Isis Centennial Celebration.
Gary Daniel: Liz Plassman is the general manager for the Crystal
Palace and we were told to be here to discuss the proposed awning
over the sidewalk. We would like to know if the HPC would be
interested in looking at this encroachment before we go too further
expense. The CCLC was favorable. Our patrons come all at one and
it bottlenecks and when it rains and snows it makes for unhappy
people. We would like to have a canopy that would cover the front
entrance and extend nine feet seven inches to the tree line. It
would not be a barrier for people walking down the sidewalk. The
height would be eight feet.
Roxanne: Because this is a large encroachment I wanted them to get
basic feedback from the Board.
Les: I am in favor of this.
Roger: Direction from the board would be to proceed with the
application.
311 W. NORTH STREET - LANDMARK - CONCEPTUAL - VARIATION
Roxanne: This is a 1962 house and a Herbert Bayer design and very
vernacular in nature. It is a small scale three bedroom house.
They are seeking landmark designation to construct a new single
family addition which will be attached only slightly to the
original structure but it will become a duplex. In order for them
to do that because they are on an undersized parcel they have to
receive landmark designation. They are also asking for a parking
variation with a reduction of two spaces. Since they have three
bedrooms now on the existing structure and three new bedrooms they
are actually required to have six spaces. Staff supports the
variations.
Roxanne: Regarding the landmark designation, standard D really
applies in this case which is the structure is a significant work
of an architect whose individual work has influenced the character
of Aspen. There are very few left and Herbert Bayer was a very
significant part of our post war history. Also standard F which
is community character. This structure is in the west end and
blends in with the eclectic styles that are found there.
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Don Erdman: Trying to identify this as a Bayer structure you would
have a hard time doing so. I feel the only supporting condition
would be F by virtue of its small scale and vernacular
characteristics.
Joe: I feel the problem that will come up is are they doing this
just to get the additional development right and get the parking
variation.
Roger: What other options do they have?
Roxanne: They could tear it down and the new unit could become an
accessory dwelling and deed restricted so that it doesn't have to
go through the HPC. I feel this is a stretch also and have thought
about this building a lot. If there were a number of these
buildings then I would have a hard time recommending designation.
Roger: If we allow them to do this we retain the much smaller
scale for that neighborhood and have a better project.
Roxanne: Our criteria doesn't say that it has to be a
representative of a certain period. It can be simply by virtue of
an architectural type.
Joe: Standard C could apply in this case as it states structure
or site embodies the distinguishing characteristics of a
significant or unique architectural type or specimen.
Jim Weaver, representing the owner: When I moved into this house
13 years ago I knew it was a Herbert Bayer house. The materials
and construction techniques are original and unchanged and the
house is in immaculate condition. There are only around three
original residence left.
Les: I feel this project meets many goals
community. I feel this building meets B, D,
sense.
of the HPC and the
E and F in the broad
MOTION: Les made the motion that the HPC recommend landmark
designation for the parcel at 311 W. North Street finding that
standard B,D,E and F have been met; second by Roger.
the
Roger: I feel we should just mention one standard (F) in
motion which is the requirement.
AMENDED MOTION: Les amended his motion to recommend landmark
designation for 311 W. North Street finding that it meets standard
F; second by Roger. All in favor of motion and amended motion,
motion carries.
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Joe: I will not vote against the motion because if we can do it,
great but you are creating two lots out of one and we are approving
this on the basis that it is small. I will have trouble going
through conceptual with a 1962 house without a lot of guidelines
that apply in the 60's. If the doctor were not getting his duplex
he wouldn't be landmark designating it, he wants the two lots.
Roger: I feel the review would be similar to how we reviewed the
Meadows.
Don: In reviewing this I feel standard E may apply also.
MOTION: Don made the motion that 311 W. North Street be added to
the inventory; second by Les. All in favor, motion carries.
CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT
Roxanne: The existing structure is 1,314 sq. ft. and is a three
bedroom house. They intend to add an addition that is above that
square footage. I feel even though the addition is larger that it
is compatible due to the method in which it will be attached which
is very minor at the far corner of the car port. There is very
little demolition occurring in order for this to happen. It is
almost a detached structure it is that close. The Bayer resource
reads through. It is a very tow scale building and is under 20
feet.
Jim Weaver: Half of it is underground. This is very iow scale.
I should explain why the Blocks want to do anything with the house
at all. They have owned this house since 1965 and purchased it as
a summer home and I rented the house. Now they are ready to
retire. They have an apartment in Chicago which they want to sell.
They have two grown children with their own children and the house
is too small for that many people. They need a second kitchen and
that is how we ended up here because the lot is too small for a
duplex. They do not want a second unit for income just family.
I designed the wing to look similar to the older part so that the
addition would have the same character as existing.
Don: How is the addition subservient to the original structure.
One of the criteria is that we are able to identify readily what
is new and what is old.
Jim Weaver: The roof has changed and mainly the windows. We could
change the siding.
Joe: A good example of old from new is the Elli's building.
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Jim Weaver: I might need direction because I thought it should be
similar.
Joe: You look at color, materials, and scale of detailing.
Don: The drawings are very easy to read and clear and that is why
I brought up the issue of old and new.
Linda: I think we are fortunate to have someone who is well versed
in the Herbert Bayer architecture and has lived in the building.
Jim Weaver: I have enjoyed living in the house and would not want
it remodeled or spoiled in any way.
Les: I like the fact that it is integrated and subtle.
Karen: The present house is around 1300 square feet and are you
doubling that amount?
Jim Weaver: The existing is 1576 sq. feet. One side of the
addition is lowered.
Karen: I am trying to determine how much mass you are adding and
what will be visible.
Roxanne: A site visit for all the members should occur. Would
perspective drawings or a massing model work for clarification?
Don: A massing model would be a lot of extra work to show
something that really doesn't need demonstrated in a model form.
I feel a site visit is much more important.
Roger: I feel a massing model is not necessary. The addition is
lower than the existing house except for where the roof line comes
down and there is only one point where you can see it and it is
totally consistent with mass and scale.
Roxanne: I show that the addition is 1,884 square feet.
Joe: I have no problem with the parking variation.
MOTION= Roger made the motion that HPC grant conceptual
development approval for the addition at 311 W. North Street
subject to specific conditions to be met at final review: 1) Site
visit by all or some of HPC members. 2) That the applicant clarify
the FAR. 3) That the applicant shows a distinction between the
existing structure and new addition. 4) That HPC recommends a
parking variation of two spaces finding that the parcel is able to
contain four spaces of legal size which is ample for the needs of
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this parcel; second by Linda. Ail in favor, motion carries.
AMENDED MOTION: Roger amended the motion to state that the
development standards one through four have been met, second by
Linda. Ail in favor of motion and amended motion, motion carries.
Don: Also a reminder to the applicant that part of a criteria is
that there be distinction between the old building and new
addition.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
520 E. COOPER - MINOR DEVELOPMENT - STOREFRONT
Roxanne: This is a storefront renovation and Staff finds that this
is a definite improvement as it brings the storefront forward with
the rest of the building. They are using stucco, sandstone and
glass and it is proportionate.
Andy Wisnowski, representing the client: We are steadily improving
this building and the present storefront does not make a statement
from the street as it recessed back. We are trying to upgrade the
window system to a more contemporary feel. The stone wall presents
an obstacle to the viewing of the retail space. We want to improve
the visibility. We propose to drop the wall 18 inches and create
more visibility down toward the storefront. From the view of the
sidewalk level is a rail that comes up three feet and we would like
to drop that rail 18 inches and do an open rail. We feel that
improves the visibility. We have talked about bringing a planter
out to soften the building. There is a double tenant lease. We
used the sandstone to wrap around and identify the separate leased
space.
Michael Germarick, tenant: We intend to do a home and personal
accessory furnishing store. My wife Becky is in retail and I am
a crystal glass engraver and I do single piece commissions. I work
for Stuben and Corning in New York. My pieces will be in the store
also.
MOTION: Don made the motion that the minor development application
for the storefront remodel at 520 E. Cooper be approved finding
that standards one, two and four have been met; second by Roger.
All in favor, motion carries.
MOTION: Joe made the motion to adjourn; second by Linda. Ail in
favor, motion carries. Meeting adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
Kathleen J.
Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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