HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19850325Continued Meeting Aspen City Council March 18, 1985
Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 5:10 p.m. with Councilmembers Blomquist,
Colling, and Knecht present.
Assistant City Manager Mitchell told Council the animal shelter contract as not ready for
consideration and request it be tabled to the next regular meeting.
Councilman Blomquist moved to table the animal shelter contract and ~o adjourn; seconded
by Councilman Collins. All in favor, motion carried. Council adjourned at 5:15 p.m.
~, City Clerk
Regular Meeting Aspen City Council March 25, 1985
JOINT MEETING WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS - Commissioner Klanderud called the meeting to
order at 4:05 p.m. with Commissioners Kinsley and Madsen and Councilmembers Walls, Knecht,
Collins and Mayor Stirling present.
Rescission of City's 7th Penny Sales Tax. Tom Smith, city attorney, said House Bill 1221
will allow the county to collect a 7th penny sales tax excluding that area of Pitkin
County in BaSalt where it would exceed 7 cents. H.B. 1221 passed the House and as
scheduled for hearing before the Senate finance committee this week. Smith said the only
change in the House was to give use tax the same treatment. Smith said an order for the
county to collect the 7th penny sales tax, Aspen and Snowmass Village have to rescind
their 7th penny. Snowmass has determined that voter approval is not necessary. The
reques~ is to have Council decide whether or not this Issue has to have approval of the
voters. Bond counsel has taken the position it could go either way. Smith said the county
is obligated to reimburse the city for any revenues lost by the rescission, and the
taxpayers would be protected. Smith said it is his position that the county is obligated
by the ~erms of the imposition of the 7th penny sales tax to reimburse the city an accord-
ance with the resolution.
Mayor Stirling said his concern as that the city do the safest thing. City Attorney Taddune
said the safest approach is to submit this issue to the electorate. Taddune said one
reservation about repealing the 7th penny as to assure in the future that the city has no
liability or exposure for mall maintenance or food tax rebates independent of 7th penny
revenues. Mayor Stirling said any question to the voters would have to be very clear that
the ~ax is not going down. Taddune said the resolution should be made clear that the
city expects full payment of all the current obligations that are paid out of the 7th penny
source. Taddune questioned what the county is intending to do with mon~es collected
beyond the funds needed for public transportation.
Kinsley said the downside of going to a vote is that this issue is very confusing and there
is a possibility the voters may vote it down. Smith said the risk of not putting this on
the ballot is that a taxpayer might challenge this; however, it would be difficult to
demonstrate any damage to a taxpayer. Councilwoman Walls said in the future with different
governing bodies, the county may decide to use this 7th penny for general fund, and it
would be easier for the city to stop that if they rescind this 7th penny by ordinance.
Taddune said if that happened, it would be difficult for the city to reinstate their 7th
penny.
Mayor Stirling moved to add this item to Council's agenda; seconded by Councilman Collins.
All in favor, motion carried.
Commissioner Madsen pointed out the only way the county can use this tax money Ks for
transportation, which was the mandate of the voters. Klanderud said this money can be
used for general transportation purposes, anything that makes transportation workable in
Pitkin county. Councilman Collins asked why this has to be on the May ballot. Klanderud
said the county wants to be able to implement this as soon as the legislation passes.
2. Trails Agreement. City Attorney Taddune said the county has to agree to their intent
to convey fee simple interest in the trails and~Wagner Park to the extent of their
ability to do so, except for the Rio Grande trail beyond Stein park. County Attorney
Smith said it was his understanding that the county would convey easements not fee simple
interest. John Eldert, county manager, said the county will have to go to an election
to actually transfer the trails and this election has to be a general election, which is
November 1986.
Commissioner Kinsely moved the the county reaffirm fee simple transfer of the trails
system to the extent possible on tbs entire county trail system with the exception of
the Rio Grande trail west of Stein park, and the same for Wagner park; seconded by
Madsen. All in favor, motion carried.
3. Housing Price Guidelines. Harry Truscott, housing authority, presented their annual
report. The report goes over the development area of housing, the Centennial project and
the resales. 33 units have sold in 1984, the employee housing market is getting larger.
The housing office has just started enforcement and hope to have a satisfactory program
by the end of the year. The housing authority has been working on payment in lieu of
building housing, dormitory and caretaker units. The housing authority is lessening the
amount of contributions from the city and county from $69,000 in 1985 to $49,000 in 1985.
The housing authority has submitted a report on housing the senior citizens and handicapped
in the community.
Jim Adamski, housing director, told the Boards tbs housing office hopes to hold in reserve
any excess funds saved to use as seed money for subsidized senior housing. The senior
housing committee is Ramona Markalunas, Budge Bingham and Tom Isaac and have worked hard
on the subsidized housing guidelines. Adamski said this program requires a doctor's
certification for independent living. Gary Esary, assistant county attorney, said the
independent living standards will be site specific. Madsen said every applicant must
have a sponsor and questioned if that was too restrictive. Truscott said they feel there
should be someone in the community who knows the seniors are there and to whom the housin~
authority can turn to. Klanderud said there are benefits in having a sponsor and this
can be very supportive to a person in this situation. Budge Bingham said he feels that
sponsors are essential. Adamski said there are 7 senior citizen units at the community
center and 8 at Centennial.
Commissioner Kinsley move to approve the housing resolution; seconded by Madsen. All in
favor, motion carried.
Councilman Knecht moved to read Ordinance ~10, Series of 1985; seconded by Councilwoman
Walls. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE ~10
(Series of 1985)
AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 1985 HOUSING AUTHORITY QUALIFICATION GUIDELINES
FOR LOW, MODERATE, AND MIDDLE INCOME OWNERSHIP HOUSINGPROJECTS, RENTAL
HOUSING PROJECTS, LODGE AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND DEVELOPMENT OF
OF EMPLOYEE HOUSING UNITS AS SET FORTH IN RESOLUTION NO. 85-2 OF THE BOARD
OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF ASPEN AND
PITKIN COUNTY was read by the city clerk
Councilman Knecht moved to adopt Ordinance #10, Series of 1985, on first reading; seconded
by Councilwoman Walls. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Knecht, aye; Collins, aye; Walls,
aye; Mayor Stirling, aye. Motion carried. The Boards commended the housing authority
and director for the report.
COUNCIL MEETING
MINUTES
Councilman Knecht moved to approve the minutes of March 11, 1985; seconded by Council-
woman Walls. All in favor, motion carried.
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
1. Jody Straight wanted to make sure Council received a letter announcing the starting
of Aspen Ballet Center. Ms. Straight said they will report to Council periodically.
They have met with the school board and showed conceptual plans. The school board
directed the Ballet Center to proceed and to continue to work with the Board. Mayor
Stirling said this Ks a positive and realistic shift.
2. Chuck Carlton, chairman of the county Financial Advisory Board, said they are looking
at the possibility of a joint maintenance facility between Snowmass, Aspen, and Pitkin
county. The county is faced with having to leave the airport. The city's facility is
inadequate and antiquated. The voters have indicated to the county they should pursue
all areas where governments can cooprate. Carlton suggested to the BOCC they should
engage a consultant to answer if it is possible to have a common facility where vehicles
can be maintained. The county asked the FAB to approach Aspen and Snowmass to spend
$10,000 on a study on the feasbility of this project, cost, size of the project.
City Manager Schilling said he has discussed this with the county manager in general
terms. Schilling said going to a private consultant is a worthwhile approach. Schilling
said he would like other agencies, such as the school board, fire district, also
involved. Carlton said the governments need a study that everyone can agree is objective,
which is why he recommended a private consultant rather than in-house. Mayor Stirling
suggested this be put on the April 8, 1985, agenda.
3. Georgie Leighton read a petition to Council stating that Aspen has always been
concerned about the environment and wildlife. Ms. Leighton said it is inconsistent and
contradictory to have fur shops in the city of Aspen. The fur industry is a cruel one.
The fur industry ga~e impetus to the endangered species act. Fur shops represent a non-
caring attitude. Ms. Leighton requested the Council to take steps to eliminate or restrict
the sale of furs and to consider including this issue on the May election.
Councilman Knecht moved to add this to the Council agenda; seconded by Mayor Stirling.
All in favor, motion carried.
4. Marty Stouffer said the dust problem was excessive this year. Stouffer said the
wood smoke seemed to be pervasive this year, also. Stouffer suggested a permit be
required to sell fire wood, ora tax on buying fire wood. The money could be used to
enforce the type of fire wood that is sold in town. Stouffer said he has also complained
about a parking lot at Hyman and Original, which is muddy and dusty. This parking lot
is a non-conforming use. It should either be stopped or cleaned up. Mayor Stirling said
he has heard a lot of concern about these issues, also the Council is working on this
parking lot with the owners and adjacent property owners.
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS
1. Councilman Collins said the Council received a letter from Francis Whitaker about how
to calculate the sign code when there is no street frontage. Councilman Collins requested
a report back at the next meeting. Mayor Stirling said a committee was formed in 1984
to work on this.
2. Councilman Collins said the Council has discussed getting together with the Boards and
Commissions, and would like a status report on that project.
3. Mayor Stirling said the city received a letter from ISO commission risk services Inc.
and he would like to acknowledge Jim Markalunas and the Aspen Volunteer Fire Department.
Aspen has changed from a class 8 to class 5, which reduces insurance rates.
4. Mayor Stirling said there is a work session scheduled for April 1; 5 p.m. to 7 p.m.
for capital improvements and the Aspen Mountain Lodge at 7 p.m. April 15 will be a work
session on water rates and formula from 5 to 7:30 p.m. April 29 will be a work session
to follow up on the international partnership project.
5. Mayor Stirling said there are two vacancies on the Clear Air Advisory Board and anyone
interested should apply in the city clerk's office.
6. Mayor Stirling said the Coors Bicycle Classic is coming to Aspen in August. Coors
has allowed the use of private homes this year. An organizing committee for this event
is being formed.
7. Mayor Stirling said he received a letter from Governor Lamm about hazardous materials
legislation. There is a hearing March 29th in Denver and he will send down the nuclear
free zone resolution.
8. Mayor Stirting asked if there was any interest on Council to reconsider adding the
parking structure question on the May 7th election. Councilman Knecht said the citizens
know there is a need for parking; this election question should be attached to cost
alternatives.
RESCISSION OF SEVENTH PENNY SALES TAX
Mayor Stirling moved the Council place the rescission of the city's 7th penny transporta-
tion tax on the ballot for May 7, 1985, and that the wording be clear so that there is no
confusion about what it means Motion DIES for lack of a second.
Councilman Collins said he feels this should go to a vote but first the city should find
out what will come from the state legislature regarding collecting the tax. There may
be amendments or conditions of this legislation that the city should be aware of before
any action is taken.
Council-man Collins moved to table this issue; seconded by Councilman Knecht.
Councilwoman Walls said this issue was voted on by the city and county voters two years
ago, and there seems no point in confusing the issue further. Councilman Knecht said he
would prefer to do this by ordinance after the legislation is passed. Mayor Stirling said
the safest was is to submit this to the voters. Michael Kinsley said there will be no
county money to fund transportation after 1985. Kinsley said the city voters have already
articulated their position on this general issue and the way transportation should be
funded. Councilman Collins said the voters should have a chance to vote on this issue but
Council should wait until the legislation is passed.
All in favor, with the exception of Mayor Stirling. Motion carried.
BALLOT QUESTIONS - ENTRANCE TO TOWN
Jay Hammond, city engineer, said the traffic committe~has recommended a two part question
asking the voters to chose between two alternatives for a four-lane alignment. Hammond
said there was a vote in November about four-laning the highway and the city voters
voted 4 to 1 in favor of a four lane. The recommended plan D traverses the Marolt/Thomas
property but this alignment is substantially different than the one defeated in 1982.
Hammond said the department of highways will start an environmental impact statement the
fall of 1985. Hammond said the traffic committee feels the May election is a good
opportunity to a large number of voters to state their preference. Hammond said the
two alternatives are a four lane on a new alignment and a four lane on the existing
alignment.
Hammond said in the new alignment proposal, they have asked that the state of Colorado
compensate the city for that portion of open space they will be using for the new right-
of-way perhaps by trading land, landscaping. The state of Colorado would vacate existing
right-of-way. The new alignment will be designed with a curve to keep away from the
straight in approach. Hammond said in the plan for the existing alignment, the 90° curves
will be softened and widened. The right-of-way acquisition would be restricted to the
east side of 7th and north side of Hallam. Tom Baker, planning office, said the P & Z
has recommended that plan D (new alignment) as the preferred alternative.
Councilman Knecht moved to place the entrance to Aspen on the May ballot; seconded by
Councilwoman Walls.
Mayor Stirling said he prefers to see this issue go through more lengthy series of
public hearings as it is a critical issue. However, there is a strong citizen feeling
for having this on the May ballot. Councilwoman Walls said having this issue on the May
ballot will get more intense public comment. Councilman Collins said the city does not
have enough information to present to the voters to make an informed decision. Council-
man Collins said the alternatives may take the congestion just outside of town and bring
it into town. Councilman Collins said the financial costs, environmental impacts have to
be looked at. Councilman Collins said the city has to look at the highway all the way
out to Maroon creek bridge.
Councilmembe~Walls, Knecht and Mayor Stirling in favor; Councilman Collins opposed.
Motion carried.
Mayor Stirling said said he would prefer not to limit the voters' choices and it would be
a mistake to limit the choices to two. Mayor Stirling suggested eliminating the language
about which side the expansion would be on. Mayor Stirling proposed adding language that
Cemetery Lane traffic will be brought onto highway 82 via some unobtrusive grade separa-
tion and the light at that intersection shall be removed. Mayor Stirling said there should
be a thrid alternative of neither for the oppostunity of another alternative to be propose~
in the future. Mayor Stirling said there should be a yes and no on each of the alterna-
tives.
Councilman Knecht said the traffic committee has worked very hard on this. Councilman
Knecht said of the straight routes, he likes plan D best. Councilman Knecht said he feelsi
plan B (existing alignment) ruins the neighborhood, costs too much, eliminates three
Victorian houses and the forest service. Councilman Knecht said he would prefer keeping
the present alignment with improvements to the corners. Councilman Knecht said he would
like to see plan D and do nothing alternatives on the ballot. Councilwoman~ Walls agreed
that plan B is totally unacceptable, it destroys property and brings highway standards
into the city. Councilman Collins said the existing alignment has enough room for four
lanes, except for the Castle creek bridge. Councilman collins said the traffic coming to
town has to be slowed down somewhere before it comes to Main street. Councilman Collins
said the alternative might be using the existing alignment, improve the bridge, do some-
thing with sound baffling. Hammond said part of the existing alignment is wide enough
for four lanes, the problems are the corners, medians, turning lanes.
Mayor Stirling moved the Council place four items on the MaY ballot; (1) new alignment,
plan D, (2) safety improvements on the existing alignment, (3) plan B with no language
about which direction to expand, (4) none of the above; seconded by Councilwoman Walls.
Councilman Collins said "do nothing" should not be on the ballot, something has to be done~i
to mitigate the siutation. Bill Murane, owner of Aspen Villa, said he has a letter from
Joe Dolan, highway department, who offered to do a study about whether four lanes are
needed at the Castle creek bridge? Jon Busch said plan B (existing alignment) would not
be acceptable to most people and should be dropped. Jeff Evans suggested language for
the ballot, "Retain the existing highway. Any improvements to state highway 82 within
the city of Aspen shall be confined to the existing alignments". Evans said each questioni
should not have a "yes" "no" choice because in a close election all three questions could
be voted down. The voter should vote on just one alternative. Mayor Stirling said this
is an advisOry vote to the highway department to take into account in the environmental
impact statement.
Jim Colombo said he is not sure why the city is in a hurry to get this on the ballot.
These improvements are 10 years away. Colombo said there are alternatives that have yet
to be brought up. Mayor Stirling said if the city keeps putting this off, they cannot
deal with the long range plans. Horn said the reason it is important to put it on the
ballot is that the highway department is starting their impact statement in October and
they will address all these questions. Francis Whitaker said the Charter prohibits the
city from giving away or disposing lands bought with 6th penny funds, and the ballot
question has to be more specific about the public lands. Mayor Stirling suggested contin-
uing this discussion to later in the week.
Mayor Stirling moved to continue this item to Thursday, March 28 at 5:00 p.m.; seconded
by Councilman Collins. All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Knecht. Motion
carried.
REPORT ON PARKING STRUCTURE
City Manager Schilling said this report is not ready, and he would like to expand the
continued meeting to discuss other potential ballot questions.
MAIN STREET CEMETERY LANE LIGHTS
Mayor Stirling said he would like to draft a letter to the department of highways about
these lights. Mayor Stirling said he would like the four-way walk removed from Mill and
Main. Mayor Stirling said the drivers are frustrated by this intersection and people are
driving more on the side streets. Mayor Stirling said all three lights on Main street
should be in a time sequence, Mill and Main should have green arrows for turning.
Councilwoman Walls said it is important for pedestrians to cross Main and Mill without
having to dodge turning cars. Councilman Knecht asked what the traffic committee
recommended. The traffic committee recommended leaving the safe walk and having better
enforcement. Bil Dunaway said this light was discussed for months with lots of public
input. Jon Busch suggested when the left turn arrow is on on Main street, having a green
right turn from Mill onto Main. Mayor Stirling requested the t~affic committee draft a
letter about the Main street lights to the department of highways with their recommenda-
tions and bring it back to Council.
Mayor Stifling said for the Cemetery Lane light, he would recommend longer green on the
highway, installing a sensor on Cemetery Lane to activate that light, having a sign
on Cemetery Lane telling people it is a long wait, having the police deparment on site
with manual changing of the signals in the win%er, having %he police in the intersection
on clear days from 3 to 5:30 p.m. in the winter and sur~mers. Councilman Knecht said he
would like to see the recommendations of the traffic committee. Hammond said the traffic
committee will draft a letter and present it to Council.
AWARD OF BIDS MALL LIGHTING PROGRAM
Elyse Elliott, engineering department, said in July 1984, Council approved $140,000 for
the mall lighting project based on an estimate by an independent contractor. The bids
were opened March 4, Western Colorado Construction low bidder of $117,536 and $14,938
for the Elks building. The light standards cost $57,690. The total for the mall lighting
project is $190,164. The cost discrepancy is about $50,000. It was originally assumed
the city would provide the boom truck. The city cannot prOvide its boom truck and this
adds $8000 to $10,000 to the bid. The light standards are $20,000 than originally
anticipated. Four lights have been added on Mill street since the original estimate was
done, which adds $14,000 to the project. Ms. Elliott told Council the CCLC has analysed
this and feels the only thing that can be cut is the lighting of the Elk's building,
which will save about $15,000, for a total cost of $175,226.
Assistant City Manager Mitchell said this project is on the current capital improvement
projects list at $140,000. If Council approves $175,000, adjustments will have to be
made in the electric capital improvement fund. Mayor Stirling suggested waiting on this
until the April 1st work session when all capital improvements are looked at. Ms.
Elliott said they would like this project ~o be done during the off season and would like
to award the contract so they can start ordering their materials. Councilman Knecht said
the city has been working on this project for a long time. Councilman Knecht said he
does not want the digging done during the summer season. Gary Plumley, CCLC, said one
of the reasons this is late was examing the quality of the light standards.
Mayor Stirling moved to table this issue to April 8 for a decision and discussi~this at
the April 1st capital improvement work session. Motion DIED for lack of a second.
Councilman Knecht moved to approve the Western Colorado Contractors as contractors and
approve $175,226 for the mall lighting project; seconded by Councilman collins.
Mayor Stirling said there are other areas of town that are quite dark and should be
addressed. Plumley said the CCLC is working on those areas.
All in favor, with the exception of Mayor Stirling. Motion carried.
REQUEST FOR ENCROACHMENT Independence Building
Jay Hammond, city engineer, said this was introduced at the last Council meeting and
put off in order to get the referrals comments. Hammond said the new encroachments are
an entry and stairwell on Galena, a window well on the alley, a new trash enclosure on
the alley. Hammond said the utilities should be re-routed at the applicants' expense
if they need to be re-routed. The engineering department is requesting that the coal bin
encroachment in the alley be removed and all sub-grade structure demolished and backfille~
to regain use of the alley. Robert Brunkan, representing the applicant, gave Council
photographs of the existing building and showed where the utilities will be relocated.
Brunkan showed the various encroachments, existing and new. Brunkan said they plan to
use the lighting sCheme identical to that the city is using.
Brunkan said the requested encroachment is 1-% feet beyond the existing encroachment,
they are removing on stairway. The light well enroachment will provide a manager's unit
in the building. Brunkan said they will be taking some mass of the building off the
mall.
Councilman Knecht moved to approve the encroachment license with the engineering
conditions; seconded by Counciman Collins.
Mayor Stirling asked if this encroachment would be a benefit to the public. Brunkan
said he feels it is because they are removing a canopy and other mass from the mall and
encroaching at street level.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilwoman Walls. Motion carried.
REQUEST ~OR ENCROACHMENT - Waidner
Elyse Elliott, engineering department, said the staff is recommending an encrOachment
be granted for Waidnes at 131 East Hallam. The garage and fence encroach into the
alley of Block 65 from 7/10s of a foot to 2,9 feet. The garage encroaches into the
street side by 5.5 feet. Ms. Elliott told Council no one on the staff had problems with
this encroachment. Ms. Elliott said these structures have been there for years.
~ayor Stirting moved to approve the encroachment for Waidner; seconded by Councilman
Knecht. All in favor, motion carried.
APPEAL INSURANCE CLAIM - Lathrop
City Attorney Taddune said his office has not been able to reach the Lathrops and
requested this be cOntinued. Taddune told Council this results from an accident where
a police car hit the La~tl'r~op's vehicle, which was parked the wrong way.
Taddune said the claims adjusters felt both parties were equally responsible and there
should be no payment.
Mayor Stirling moved to table this to April 8; seconded by Councilman Collins. All in
favor, motion carried.
REQUEST FOR FUNDING - Study/Year-round operation of Moore Pool
Clark Smythe told Council a group has been working on this project since last summer
and has been meeting monthly. Bill Lipsey presented a proposal for a feasibility study
funding. Smythe said the school system wants to use the pool for their education system.
Councilwoman Walls said the city does not need a study but needs to get the project done.
If the city can fund lighting up the mall, they ought to be able to spend money to
provide recreations for residents. Councilwoman Walls said the alternative for heating
the pool and not covering it is not acceptable because of the costs to heat the pool.
Councilwoman Walls suggested staff solicit proposals from local architects for designing
a simple, glass structure to enclose the pool. ThiS could be put on the 1986 capital
improvement list. Mayor Stirling agreed about the study, staff has information on
enclosing the pool. Mayor Stirling asked what financial participation the school would
have. Smythe said the school is willing to cover the operating costs. Smythe said the
rest of the operating costs could be offset by user fees. The school system felt they
could not help out with the capital costs.
Mayor Stirling said Aspen is a world class resort and has a pool that is only used 3
months a year. Mayor stirling said the staff should start proceeding with the alterna--
tives and get bids. Mayor Stirling said the Blue Ribbon Panel put this very low on their!!
list of improvements. Bill Lipsey said the cost of this project cannot be known until
a decision on what type of structure is made. There are lot ~f different options. The
Council needs to think about the aesthetic experience and the practical problems. City
Manager Schilling said the staff could put together requests for proposals on engineeringi
services to construct a permanent facility. Schilling said all the tasks outlined by
this committee will have to be done and will be part o~ the scope of the work.
Councilman Collins said the reason the pool was not g~vered initially was that the money
from-the Bureau of Outdoor Recreation stated specifically it had to be an outdoor pool.
Councilman Collins said this is something the community needs as a year round amenity.
Councilman moved to go ahead with the feasbili%y study and appropriate $2,000. Motion
DIES for lack of a second.
Councilwoman Walls moved to instruct the staff to prepare RFPs for a pool enclosure,
including calculating heating the pool year round without an enclosure; seconded by
Mayor Stirling. All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Knecht. Motion carried.
CONTRACT TO PURCHASE OPEN SPACE AND ANIMAL SHELTER
Councilwoman Walls moved to continue these two items to April 8, 1985; seconded by
Councilman Knecht. All in favor, motion carried.
ASPEN MOUNTAIN LODGE FINAL PLAT SCHEDULE
Colette Penne, planning office, said this project has been reviewed by P & Z for prelim-
inary plat. Alan Richman will present a briefing for Council April 1 on what has been
done by P & Z. John Doremus, representing the applicant, told Council they are working
under a tight time schedule. Doremus said if they can get started on schedule, the
earth moving will be done in the off season. Also, if they get started on time, they
will be able to open for the winter season 1986-87. Doremus said they are preparing a
booklet for Council to catch up on the physical changes at the site which have occured.
Mayor Stirling said this is scheduled for one hour April 1st, will be on the agenda for
April 8th and April 22nd and at the work session for April 15th.
Mayor stirling moved to go with the recommended schedule as outlined; seconded by
Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion carried.
City Manager Schilling said the staff strongly supports allowing demolition and excava-
tion prior to final plat and asked Council if they had any objections. Doremus said
the applicant would like to begin demolition on April 15th. The project has submitted
foundation plans to the building department. Doremus said the building department needs ~
authority from Council to review and process these plans. Doremus said on April 1st
the applicant could offer Council a plan to mitigate any problems that might occur if
final plat approval is not received. Doremus said he would like Council to authorize
the building department to process the permit. Schilling said he would like Council to
support moving ahead with this project. Mayor Stirling said he does not object to
asking the building department to proceed; Councilmembers Walls and Knecht had not
objections.
Mayor Stirting moved to give direction to the building department to proceed with this
application with all due haste; seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, with the
exception of Councilman Collins. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE ~11, 1985 Rezoning Top of Mill
Councilman Collins said there has been some concern about separating the lodge and
residential components of this application. Ms. Penne said the P & Z has two more
meetings regarding the residential component. Doremus said P & Z explained P & Z will
recommend to Council that preliminary approval of the Top of Mill be withheld until
the studies on the geologic hazard are completed. Doremus said because of the timing and
the weather, a spring runoff has not been studied. This will not be completed until
August 1st, and the applicants would like the Top of Mill put aside from the rest of the
PUD. Councilman Collins said this is an exception from the agreement at the beginning
of the application. Mayor Stirling asked if the applicant wOuld indemnify the city from
anything happening on this site. Doremus said they will still be digging the hole by
the time Council will receive the report from the Colorado Geological Survey.
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Councilwoman Walls moved to read Ordinance ~11, Series 1985; seconded by Councilman
Knecht. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #11
(Series of 1985)
AN ORDINANCE REZONING TO "R-15(PUD) (L)" (RESIDENTIAL/PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
LODGE OVERLAY) THOSE PORTIONS OF LOTS 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 AND 15, CAPITOL HILL
ADDITION TO THE CITY AND TOWNSI~E OF ASPEN, PITKIN COUNTY, COLORADO, WHICH ARE
PRESENTLY ZONED "PUB" (PUBLIC) was read by the city clerk
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance #11, Series of 1985, on first reading;
seconded by Councilman Knecht.
Tom Baker, planning office, said this proposed rezoning has been recommended by P & Z.
Council granted conceptual approval of the Top of Mill project by resolution 84-23 and
discussed the rezoning at that time. Baker said this proposed rezoning is reasonable
until and unless geological reports show this area to be undevelopable. If that is
found, the planning office will recommend the hazard area to be zoned C, conservation.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Collins, aye; Knecht, aye; Walls, aye; Mayor Stirling aye.
Motion carried. '
ORDINANCE ~45, 1984 - Bentley's Lease Extension
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. There were no comments. Mayor Stirling closed
the public hearing.
Councilman Knecht moved to adop~ Ordinance ~45, 1984 on second reading; seconded by
Councilman Collins. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Walls, aye; Knecht, aye; Collins, aye;
Mayor Stirllng, aye. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #4, 1985 Historic Designations
Mayor Stirling withdrew for a conflict of interest. Colette Penne, planning office,
showed Council pictures of the three structures. Ms. Penne said Council and P & Z policy
has been any houses on the historic inventory that are in the,three categories and the
owner requests designation, the city does so.
Mayor Pro Tem Collins opened the pbulic hearing. There were no comments. Mayor Pro Tem
Collins closed the public hearing.
Councilman Knecht moved to adopt Ordinance ~4, 1985, on second reading; seconded by
Councilwoman Walls. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Walls aye; Knecht aye; Collins, aye.
Motion carried. ' '
ORDINANCE ~5, 1985 - Castle Creek Power Contract
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. Jay Hammond, city engineer, went over the
expenses of this project. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance ~5, 1985, on second reading; seconded by
Councilman Knecht. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Collins, aye; Walls, aye; Knecht
aye; Mayor Stirling, aye. Motion carried. '
ORDINANCE #12, 1985 - Sport Stalker Agreement
Councilwoman Walls moved to read Ordinance #12, Series of 1985; seconded by Councilman
Knecht. Ail in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #12
(Series of 19~5)
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
CITY OF ASPEN, COLORADO, AND HAMBLETON, INC. d/b/a SPORT STALKER SETTING FORTH
THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS UPON WHICH HAMBLETON, INC. PROPOSES TO PROVIDE CERTAIN
SERVICES RELATIVE TO THE OPERATION OF THE ASPEN MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE FOR A
TERM OF (5) FIVE YEARS AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE SAID AGREEMENT ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF ASPEN was read by the city clerk
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance #12, 1985, on first reading; seconded by
Councilman Collins.
Mayor Stirling said this contract previously was a 3 year term and it is not always good
to commit the city for long term ~n changing times. Jim Holland, parks director, told
Council the contract will be evaluated yearly. This will assure Sport Stalker so that
they can put the capital into the project and this contract is in both parties best
interest. '
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Collins, aye; Knecht, aye; Walls aye; Mayor Stirling, aye.
Motion carried. '
ORDINANCE #13, 1985 - Supplemental MEAN Agreement
Councilwoman Walls moved to read Ordinance #13, 1985; seconded by Councilman Knecht. All
in favor, motion carried.
Regular Meeting Aspen ~l~y ~..ounc,~-
ORDINANCE ~13
(Series of 1985)
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF ASPEN, COLORADO, AND THE MUNICIPAL ENERGY AGENCY OF
NEBRASKA ESTABLISHING A METHOD WITH REGARD TO THE PAY BACK OF CARRYING CHARGES
ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR A TRANSFORMER REQUIRED BY COLORADO UTE
AND THE COST SHARING OF MAINTENANCE OF A 25KV UNDERGROUND LINE BELONGING TO
HOLY CROSS ELECTRIC AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE SAID AGREEMENT ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF ASPEN was read by city clerk
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance #13, 1985; seconded by Councilman Collins.
Assistant City Manager Mitchell told Council Colorado Ute required an additional trans-
former. The city is splitting the carrying charges with MEAN 80/20; MEAN is paying 80%
and Ruedi is paying 20%.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers collins, aye; Knecht, aye; Walls, aye; Mayor Stirling, aye.
Motion carried.
PROHIBITION ON THE SALE OF FURS
Mayor Stirling said this is a request from a citizen to consider banning the sales of
furs within Aspen or to put this on the May election ballot. Councilwoman Walls asked if
the city could do this legally. Georgie Leighton said many people have spoken to her
about their objections to furs, so she presented this to Council. Ms. Leighton said she
would like this on the May ballot and people could vote their preference in private.
Mayor Stirling said he agrees in spirit on the issue but the Council is not restricting
that certain items cannot be sold in shops. Councilman Knecht asked if it was legal to
put this issue on the ballot. City Attorney Taddune said to make this enforceable, there
has to be a correlation between the public health, safety and welfare and the question
being proposed.
Councilman Collins suggested the vote be an advisory vote only. Taddune said the Council
could get an advisory vote. Mayor Stirling said this question invades restraint of trade.
Mayor Stirling said it may be an abuse of the process to put something on the ballot that
the city does not have any basis of going forward with.
Councilman Knecht moved to have some language drafted to consider this as an election issue;
seconded by Councilman Collins. All in favor, with the exception of Mayor stifling.
Motion carried.
Councilwoman Walls moved to approve the consent agenda; seconded by Mayor Stirling. The
consent agenda is (1) liquor licens renewals - Anres; Aspen Drug, Abetones; and (2) EAP
contract. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilman Knecht moved to continue the meeting to March 28; seconded by Councilwoman
Walls. All in favor, motion carried. Council left Chambers at 8:55 p.m.
Continued Meeting Aspen City Council March 28, 1985
Mayor Stirling called the continuedmeeting to order at 5:05 p.m. with Councilmembers Knech~,
Collins, Walls, and Btomquist present.
BALLOT QUESTION - Prohibition Against Sale of Furs
City Attorney Taddune said this issue will be going to the electorate as a question of
preference rather than a legal prohibition on the sale of furs in Aspen. Mayor Shirling
read the question, "Does the electorate desire to express its disapproval of the breeding
and slaughtering of fur bearing animals merely for the purposes of obtaining produces for
human adornment?" Taddune said he tried to come up With a one line question which would
satisfy the citizen who wants to bring this to the voters. Councilman Blomquist said a
referred election issue should be for the purpose of mandating some specific city action
or to advise the Council to take or not take action. Council decided not to put this
issue on the ballot. Ms. Leighton thanked Council for their time and cOnsideration.
BALLOT QUESTION - Entrance to Town
Jay Hammond, city engineer, presented a memorandum updated from Monday's meeting. Mayor
Stirling said there are also proposals from Councilman Blomquist and Mayor Stirling.
The traffic committee feels that the question should result in a clear mandate for
Council to pursue further action with the department of highways. Hammond said alterna-
tive B, existing alignment, causes problems for everyone. The traffic committee reworded
the existing alignment alternative to indicate a range of improvements or a phased approach
may be appropriate, like safety and capacity improvements, upgrading the bridge. Hammond
said any alternative may requiring use of open space on the Thomas/Marolt property.
Hammond read the proposed questions for the ballot between the new alignment and the
phased improvements for the existing alignment. The ballot question include drawings of
the two proposed alignments.
Mayor Stirling asked if the questions are Clear enough to allow Council to sell or to
trade open space. City Attorney Taddune said with yes and no on both questions, the
voters may approve both alternatives. Mayor stirling said he is concerned about the city
having adequate protection about the disposal of open space in the future. Taddune said
someone may take the position that it was unfair to combine the open space question with
this larger question.
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Mayor Stirling presented his four proposed alternatives and would eliminate plan B, which
is the existing alignment, and would add an alternative stating this issue needs more
planning and research and the voter would chose to do nothing at this time. Mayor
Stirling suggested rather than "yes""no", that the voter chose one alternative. Taddune
pointed out that in trading or selling open space, the Charter requires this be passed
by a majority of those voting, and this suggestion might eliminate that. Councilman
Blomquist said the existing alignment question has been much improved. Councilman Blomqui~t
said in his question for the new alignment, he would use the work "parkway".
Councilman Collins said if the city is going to give away open space, the ballot question ~
has to contain the description and how much property is being given away. Hammond said
the traffic committee had planned on a highway with median, and wanted the voters to
approve a conceptual approach which would allow the CounCil to work with and negotiate
with the department of highways. Taddune said the ballot language should be as specific
as possible. Mayor Stirling said he would like to add in the ballot questions a specific
number of feet to be used in the open space to give the voterS an indication. Hammond
said the drawings in the ballot questions indicate the concept of where the highway
alignment will occur. Councilman Btomquist asked what the costs will be in waiting 7
years for this improvement, in traffic flow, in not knowing how to use the Thomas/Marolt
prOperty. Councilman Blomquist asked if there are things that can be done to the existing
highway to improve traffic flow in the interim.
Jim Colombo told Council he has spoken to the department of highways and told Council the
department of highways do not need one specific recommendation from the city. The
department of highways will do an enVironmental impact study on several alternatives.
The city can suggest 2 or 3 alternatives, which the department of highways will study
along with their own alternatives. The questiOns the Council is bringing up will be
answered by these environmental studies. Costs, feasibility and impact will be studied
by the department of highways. Colombo said the department of highways recommended to
him that the city present 2 or 3 alternatives, which they will research and study.
Hammond said the department of highways will study a range of alternatives. One of the
problems the department of highways has is that they will not condemn property through
publicly owned open space. The department of highways needs an indication from the city
and from the voters that they have the alternative to use open space as a possibility.
Colombo said he ~ke~ the department of highways that question, and they said voter
approval is not necessary for a preliminary study
Michael Kinsley said there are two issues here, whether to accommodate the four lane on
the city's open space property and which alignment should be preferred. Both these
questions should be put to the voters. Hans Gramiger said it is imperative to solve the
open space question now. Gramiger said the inclusion of the drawings in the ballot
questions makes it confusing. Chuck Brandt said what will happen at the Cemterery Lane
intersection should be in the question. Edith Dunn said she would not want to vote on
any of these alternatives until more information is available. The voters will want to
know what is going to happen at the Prince of Peace, at Cemetery Lane and at the 90°
turns. Bobbi Carson said it is clear now that the department of highways will study
various alternatives, and t~ing this to the voters is premature. Wynn Walter asked why
the costs of the alternativeS are not inclUded in the ballot questions. Mayor Stirling
said these costs are quite rough estimates. Francis Whitaker said he would rathe~ get
the environmental impact statements first. The voters would know what the alternatives
would cost.
Councilman collins suggested Council reconsider the decision to put this question on the
ballot. Councilman Collins said Council needs more information from the environmental
impact statement and from the traffic engineers~ Councilman Collins said these alignmentsii
bring the traffic into town and onto Seventh and Main. These problems should be looked
at by the department of highways. Councilman Blomquist agreed this election question
should be put off until after the EIS is avaluated, and the city should have 2 or 3
alternatives to present to the department of highways by October 1st. Councilman
Blomquist said the park planning and highway planning should be done simulanteously.
Councilman Blomquist suggested having the neighborhoods work with the traffic committee
and park planning so that by October 1st the city has 3 alternatives.
Peter Forsch, traffic committee member, told Council the department of highways has told
the committee they would like the community identify its preferences for the alignment.
Last August, Council committed to putting this issue on the May ballot. Councilman
Knecht said he would like to submit this to the voters to see what they have to say.
Mickey Herren said it makes no sense to limit the number of choices to 1, since the state
willing
is to look at a number of alternatives. Gramiger said these two corners are very
dangerous. Bobbi Carson said the traffic committee has done a very good job and has come
up with some viable alternatives and the department of highways can study these.
Tom Baker, planning department, told Council after the 1982 election about right-of-way
across the Thomas property, the highway department put in writing they would not address
the environmental impact statement until the community came to a consensus. Mayor Stirlin~!
said many people have expressed a desire to have the entrance to town question on the
May ballot. Mayor Stirling said he is willing to give the responsibility to the voters
to give Council a clear charge and to communicate that choice to the voters. Herren
suggested a fourth alternative on the ballot ~o submit all of the above questions to the
highway department to consider in their EIS. Councilwoman Walls said the traffic committee
has worked hard, has gone through 17 alternatives and narrowed it to two. Councilwoman
Walls said the traffic committee has gone as far as they can. Councilwoman Walls said ?
she would prefer to put the ~ote off until the city has an EIS, and then vote on the EIS
alternatives.
Councilwoman Walls moved to reconsider putting the highway issue on the ballot; seconded
by Councilman Blomquist.
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Continued Meeting Aspen City Council March 28, 1985
Richie Cohen said the city has to give the highway department a positive s~gn that the
community wants the alternatives studied. David White agreed it is important to let the
highway department know that the community wants their help in solving this problem.
Mayor Stirling said he feels a vote gives a charge to an elected body and has impacts on
the highway department. Councilman Blomquist said the November 1984 vote was very clear,
the local officials negotiated with the department of highways, the EIS Ks scheduled.
Councilman Blomquist said because the EIS is scheduled, it is not necessary to have this
election. Councilman Blomquist said the community's relationship with the state is better
than before. Councilman Blomquist suggested communicating with the department of highway
to say Aspen is interested in solving this problem.
Councilwoman Walls said the voters were only given one choice in 1982 and in November 1984
the voters made it clear they want a four lane. The city and county met with the highway
officials last fall and made it clear they wanted the environmental impact statement started
as soon as possible.
Councilmembers Walls, Collins and Blomquist in favor, Councilman Knecht and Mayor Stirling
opposed. Motion carried.
Councilman collins moved ~o ask the staff to draw up a resolution reaffirming the city's
commitment to work with the Colorado department of highways and to send them three alter-
native to look at in the EIS; seconded by Councilman Blomquist. All in favor, motion
carried.
Ed Zasacky requested the Council write a letter to the department of highways regarding
interim ~mprovements. Mayor Stirling said he has drafted a letter and is having the
s~aff review.
Councilwoman Walls moved to adjourn at 7:00 p.m.; seconded by Councilman Blomquist. All
in favor, motion carried.
~o6h, City Clerk