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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19920909HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE Minutes of September 9, 1992 Meeting was called to order by chairman Bill Poss with Don Erdman, Jake Vickery, Roger Moyer, Karen Day, Martha Madsen and Linda Smisek present. Joe Krabacher and Les Holst were excused. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Jake: The city Hall remodel is not sympathetic historically, it is your basic routine modern remodel. I would hope that the committee would make a statement that prime historical landmark buildings be done more sympathetically in the interior as well as preserving the outside. Roger: A letter needs to be sent to the City Manager with our concerns. Bill: I would like to direct Staff to prepare a letter that I will sign to the City Manager. The Court House remodel is exceptional. MOTION: Don made motion to move Old Business on the agenda to the end of the meeting; second by Linda. Ail in favor, motion carries. 442 W. BLEEKER - WORKSESSION PIONEER PARK (REVISION TO FINAL VESTED PLaN LOT 1) Roxanne: A vital letter that is required was missing in the application and that is why this is a worksession. The memo attached in your packet is a worksession memo not a full review. This would be a minor development but Staff has not commented fully. Dick Fallin, architect: We would like to proceed as this being a real meeting even though the letter was not submitted on time. Roxanne: Basically they want to do less than the Kaplan plan. A minor development does not require a public notice, but a full review by the Board. Bill: For the record I have met with Roxanne and the applicant and the architect under the stream line process so I am familiar with the application. Bill: I would suggest to the committee that we allow the applicant to submit a detailed presentation and at the end we can establish whether we feel comfortable with the changes. APPLICANT PRESENTATION Dick Fallin, architect: The revision of the model visualizes what is happening. The primary changes occur on the rear of the building. There will be no changes to the existing facade on the Historic Preservation Committee Minute of September 9, 1992 street side other than painting and repairing the brick. A crested fence will be added on the roof which was approved before. The wall facing the courtyard will be moved out. The sweitzer cottage has window changes. Roger: The direction for lot 2 is a park. Bruce Berger, applicant: The preliminary plan is restriction so that the land would remain green space. a deed Roger: A passive park similar to Hillard Park. Dick Fallin: Under the Kaplan plan there is an existing four car garage building across the alley. Under that plan the building was removed entirely from the site and the connecting room attached to the building was to become a three car garage. We were therefore able to transfer the floor area into the remaining part of the house and in this scheme we are raising the entire house and digging a basement with two or three bedrooms, family room bath etc. The existing wooden fence that is there now was taken down and new brick piers were approved with a wood fill fence inside and height established under conditions of approval and still are. There would be a roof deck. One of the dormers was changed from a window to a door to get to the deck. We will reside the garage and reroof. There will be steps that go down to an existing patio. Regarding the fence Mr. Berger would like you to consider the wood infill and change it to brick infill. Keeping the brick piers and spacing them the same. The pool is existing and will remain. All the terracing will be changed. There will be a large existing dormer taken out and replaced with two smaller dormers. Linda: How are you going to deal with the leakage on a flat roof? Dick Fallin: We will reroof and put in roof drains. We will put in a gutter over the front door. All sidewalks will be snow melted. We are not going to exceed any FAR or the existing site coverage. Some of the variance that were approved for setback are still valid and some of those we will not need anymore. Bruce Berger: If the park goes through we would like a "green fence" to come around so that the two lots are separated for privacy. The house will be a private residency. Karen: On the plan what is the purpose of raising the window ceil. Dick Fallin: Our concern is having room for curtains and furniture. This is an addition. Roger: I recall that the fence was not to connect to the house and Historic Preservation Committee Minute of September 9, 1992 have a slight opening. And that the fence would in fact be brick to go along with the structure. Les brought up the concept if you walk down the street you have a wall and that at intervals there would be an opening. It could be grill work, greens or whatever to make it somewhat transparent but private. That was left to be worked out with the project monitor. Jake: What was happening with the garage in the Kaplan plan? Dick Fallin: The garage would be removed entirely and a caretaker unit but he withdrew his application. We are asking for no additional FAR. Roger: I feel this is an excellent presentation with the model as an exhibit. Regarding light wells we had done a tour around town and the best light well are those that are graduated down. It opened it and gave you the impression that it wasn't just a hole. We want to encourage applicants to terrace light wells. Dick Fallin: In the Kaplan plan there was a lot of structural work entailed and we feel our plan has a less obtrusive effect. Don: This is a marvelous opportunity to get something much better than what we approved. I feel this is a minor development. Roxanne: The skylights project up six to nine inches and are not on the model; does the board feel comfortable with them. Roger: The brick wall should not read as a solid wall. Bill: The model presented made it much clearer for us to understand. MOTION: Don made the motion that the revisions to the approved vested plan for Pioneer Park Lot 1 Weaver Subdivision and letter dated August 27, 1992, and landscape plan dated September 2, 1992 be approved subject to final elevations and details of the brick perimeter wall surrounding the garden and pool area. All financial obligations which were required under the previous approval will still remain in effect; second by Roger. All in favor, motion carries. Linda: I have a concern about the security of the patio if a park goes in. People in the park using it. Bruce Berger: The plan shows a continuous hedge which hides the depression. Roxanne: There will also be a wrought iron fence partially around. Historic Preservation Committee Minute of September 9, 1992 It is anticigated that there will be certain hours that the public could use that area although we have not talked about the details of that. 134 E. BLEEKER - PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED Don opened the public hearing. Roxanne: At the last meeting you allowed a deck off the out building of no more than 50 square feet providing there were no encroachments. The public hearing was continued until today due to the variations of height which is allowed in the cottage infill unit. You don't have to make a compatibility finding for the height increase and also for the side yard setback. Kathy: The next door neighbor came in after the last meeting and said as long as they were within the setbacks that she would feel comfortable with the deck. She also stated that she would prefer not to have the deck at all. Roxanne: The height variance I still recommend. I do no think the height change is any more significant than the other changes. If the outbuilding was staying very clean I would have more concern. The character of the outbuilding has been changed. Jake: We put the stakes up. Don: The committee hasn't determined whether to approve the height variation for interior use. Jake: There are two things for the increase in height one is to get more height for the accessory dwelling unit to change the use of the upper floor which is allowed in the cottage infill program. Martha: It will not project up any higher than the house behind. Karen: By raising the center twelve inches we save the interior of the wonderful roof. Otherwise we loose everything inside and out. Roxanne: I feel it is worth the 12 inch variation. MOTION= Karen made the motion that the HPC allow for the height variation of not more than twelve inches for the alley building for roofing purposes in order to preserve the original roof interior of the cottage and also that any sideyard or rear yard encroachments are denied; second by Linda. All in favor, motion carries. 4 Historio Preservation Committee Minute of September 9, 1992 MOTION: Don made the motion to adjourn; second by Karen. favor, motion carries. Meeting adjourned at 5:00 9.m. Ail in Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk