HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19920212HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE
Minutes of February 12, 1992
Meeting was called to order by chairman Bill Poss with Donnelley
Erdman, Les Holst, Jake Vickery, Roger Moyer and Martha Madsen
present. ~~ and Karen. Day were excused.
MOTION: Roger made the motion to approve the minutes of Dec. 11,
1991; January 8th and January 22, 1992 minutes as submitted; second
by Les. Ail in favor, motion carries.
Presentation by Jon Busch, Aspen trolley project.
Jon: The studies over the year have recommended Galena Street as
the cross town shuttle. Four modes of transportation were
considered for the shuttle: regular bus, special bus, horse drawn
wagons, electric trolley. The trolley was selected and since the
Rio Grande was an SPA they would review everything together.
Route: To the post office and up by the teen center, Galena
circling around the skating rink. The system will accommodate as
many as 4 vehicles. It is designed to operate on a five to seven
minute headway. There would be a vehicle in site at all times
going one way or the other. The downtown idea there are two tracks
from Cooper to the courthouse. The proposal for the storage barn
is at the Rio Grande property.
Donnelley: I am concerned about the above grade support. Here we
are doing undergrounding.
Jon: There are only two wires, one over each track and they would
be 18 to 20 feet high. We did look at battery powered and they
would have to be changed out every six hours. Bottom line it is
not practical. You have choices, a cleaner environment with the
expenses of having overhead wires which is historic accurate or you
can go with something that is diesel powered or natural gas powered
that is not an renewable energy source.
Roger: I think this is something that we might want to think about
at another date.
Donnelley: This can only be considered as part of the entire
comprehensive plan and cannot be looked at without considering
everything involved.
Les: I have in mind a battery system that is coming out.
Bill: Possibly the battery packs would eliminate the cables.
309 E. HOPKINS - LILY REID
Roxanne: The applicant is addressing the relocation issue tonight.
At the last meeting the Board requested that the applicant tell you
specifically what other sites that they were looking at to relocate
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the cottage too. There are two issues the bond and to clarify
condition six.
Larry Yaw, architect for project: During the construction period
we are temporarily relocating the little victorian to the
recommended site Seventh and Main Street until about February.
The site is available and it is a neighborhood with a victorian
character to it. We will put a skirt around it and will build
some steps up to it to make it look permanent.
Roxanne: Your motion originally said it would have a Seventh
Street orientation. This plan indicates a Main Street orientation.
Larry: We think it should face Main Street just like its parent
street now. Our recommendation is that it become a member of the
street.
Don: The east wall is not an attractive facade so if the building
frontage faces Seventh Street it would be presenting a secondary
facade to Main Street. I would say you could consider the Main
Street frontage.
Larry: In researching sites the City had none.
Roger: What other sites did you look at?
Jim: I checked the MLS and most of the comments that came up were
that the owners did not want to interrupt the sale of the property
or the hassle or liability.
Roger: What about Mrs. Paepcke's property on Hopkins?
Jim: I did not talk with her but contacted the larger areas.
Bill: I would like to deal with this site since this is proposed
and if something else comes up we can deal with that later.
Les: I only care that the building will survive wherever it is.
The closer it is the better it will work.
Roger: They were told to look for a site that was closer and not
on Main Street period. The discussion was to sit it on the back
of the lot. I will talk to Mrs. Paepcke about her lot.
Larry Brooks, owner: Ryberg will be moving this house and it is
more important to me as the owner to retain the integrity of this
house than you. There are not a lot of 9,000 ft. lots available.
I want to move along with this project.
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MOTION: Donnelley made the motion that regarding condition #5 of
the final development approval that the location and site of
alternate #1 on Seventh Street and Main presented by Hagman Yaw be
approved pending Roger Moyer contacting Mrs. Paepcke about the
availability of her lot for relocation on Hopkins; second by Jake.
Motion carries: Vote: Yes, Joe, Bill, Don, Jake Roger. No, Les.
Larry Yaw: If the area is available we want the ability to come
to you on an emergency basis due to time constraints.
Bill: You could work out your temporary relocation with the
Project Monitor.
Les: I need to discuss what the building is going to be sitting
on.
Larry Yaw: We need to get our soil tested on this particular area
to determine what it will sit on. Basically it would be between
wood and concrete block; if necessary we will put in a foundation
in to keep it from moving. There will be a fence built also.
Les: The building in Emma along the highway is starting to crack
due to vibrations from the highway.
Bonding Issue
Larry Yaw: 100,000 bonding is appropriate and you can write it
anyway you want. This bond basically says that this building will
be rebuilt and feel that is an adequate amount. In addition to the
bond Ryberg is fully insured for the actual moving part. The
building will be completely documented.
Donnelley: We are talking about two things bonding and carrying
the required insurance. If both are met that certainly is
adequate.
Larry Yaw: The form of the bond would be a matter between the city
Attorney and Gideon Kaufman, our attorney. We would be happy to
provide proof of insurance.
Joe: I would clarify that in addition to the 100,000 and the
insurance the owner would be responsible to have the building fixed
in any event. This is a guarantee that the first $100,000 would
be provided and that Larry Brooks would fix it anyway as his
personal obligation.
Larry Yaw: We are monitoring the building as we speak.
Joe: That way they can detect deterioration.
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Bill entertained the motion that HPC endorse the bond financial
security of $100,000 with the condition that any additional owners
insurance requirements be worked out with the city Attorney and
Staff and that the building be monitored by the Project Monitor and
owner.
Don: I so move; second by Roger. Ail in favor, motion carries.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Joe: I had concern about review over public projects such as the
West Hopkins employee housing project. If you are concerned about
mass and scale look at some of the projects that the Housing
Authority is doing. Setbacks are violated and no sidewalks etc.
and inadequate parking. Should we be reviewing these projects.
Roxanne: Yes but it has not been codified yet.
Roger: I have brought this up before and feel we should review
employee housing projects.
MOTION: Bill made the motion to direct Staff that a resolution
be brought back to HPC for the next meeting initiating a Landuse
Code amendment regulations for an HPC review over public works
projects according to our development review standards; second by
Joe. Ail in favor, motion carries.
RESOLUTION 92-1 HPC GOALS
MOTION: Bill made the motion to table resolution 92-1 until the
next meeting February 26th; second by Don. All in favor, motion
carries.
MOTION: Bill made the motion to adjourn; second by Don.
favor, motion carries.
Ail in
Worksession after the meeting on 700 W. Francis
Meeting adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk