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Hinutas of Aug'ust 28, ~99L
Meeting was called to order by chairman Bill Poss with Les Holst,
Glenn Rappaport, Roger Moyer, Jake Vickery, Joe Krabacker, Karen
Day and Martha Madsen present. Don Erdman was absent.
MOTION: Roger made the motion approve the minutes of July 10, 1991
as amended; second by Jake. All in favor, motion carries.
MOTION: Roger made the motion to approve the minutes of August 14,
1991; second by Jake. All in favor, motion carries.
COE~iISSIONER COI,~'.~NTS
Roger: I represented the HPC at the CCLC meeting. The only thing
that pertains to us at the moment is the problem of display signs
on buildings around the mall area, those that are not attached to
the building. The Commission requested that Bill Drueding evaluate
those and have it brought up at the next meeting.
Joe and Bill stepped down.
Karen and Martha seated.
MOTION: Bill made the motion to appoint Les and interim
chairperson; second by Roger. All in favor, motion carries.
Jake: I do some work with Bill Poss but I am not working on this
project and feel I do not have a conflict.
409 E. HOPKINS - CONCEPTUAL DEVELOP)lENT EXTENSION
Roxanne: Normally for conceptual development we allow no more than
six months. The applicant is requesting a 12 month extension.
Actually it is a 10 month extension because he already received two
months. That would take them up to July 24, 1992. The landuse
code does not specify how long we can extend conceptual approval
for, nor how many times you can extend. The Board in the past has
dealt with six months. It is important that you stay with what was
done in the past because we are going through the Master Plan
process right now and there may be some new policy that will come
up with regard to protection of pocket parks and open space. I am
recommending six months from today which would take them up to
February 28th.
Karen: Will the park remain in the interim? It is important for
the town to keep the park as long as we can.
David Rybak, architect for Poss & Associates: Yes. This project
will be a commercial building, offices on the second floor and
retail commercial on first floor. The second floor has a plaza.
The reason we want the 12 month extension is that we do not intend
to start construction until the spring and during that time it will
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take us that long to get the process going for final development.
We look for the 12 month extension so that we do not have to come
back in February and request it at that time.
Roxanne: They are not recommending any changes from what was
approved conceptually.
Roger: We granted conceptual with conditions and it was a good
project. Would the end of May be sufficient time?
David: I believe so.
Glenn: Going through the project with you I thought we ended up
with a good project and it is a project appropriate for the
downtown commercial core. I would be in favor of the extension.
Jake: I concur with Glenn and have no problem granting an
extension.
Martha: I have no problem but want to be aware of "consistency"
as it is very important. If it is not going to create a problem
I would be in favor of the extension.
Roger: A lot of input went into the project. There is a
consideration with the granting of a twelve month extension. I
asked if the end of May would be enough time on a seasonal basis.
A lot of things work seasonally and then we are not establishing
the 12 month precedent.
Les: If we can cut it down to the end of May it makes sense.
MOTION: Roger made the motion to grant
extension for 409 E. Hopkins until June 1,
All in favor, motion carries.
conceptual development
1992; second by Karen.
VESTED RIGHTS RESOLUTION 10t 1991
442 W. BLEEKER PIONEER Pi~RK LOT i
Chairman Bill Poss opened the public hearing; no comments from the
public. Public Hearing closed.
MOTION: Roger made the motion to adopt Resolution 10, 1991
granting a three year vested rights approval for 442 W. Bleeker,
Lot 1 Weaver Subdivision also know as Pioneer Park; second by Les.
All in favor, motion carries.
Joe seated.
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PROJECT HONXTOR~NG
~SPEN HE~.DOWS - CHALET BU~LDXN~S
Fred Smith: I need to talk about the chalets at the Aspen Meadows.
Everything that was indicated by the Board was added to the chalet
buildings. There are three window panes. We had to go back and
make them into four windows due to the calculation of the buildings
energy efficiency against the Colo. Model Code. It indicated that
we were not able to have as much glazing as the model has shown.
We needed to produce some solid surfaces so we split the windows
into four and added an insulated panel. After that was done Glenn
looked at it and it caused some visual problems. We also have
another alternative. Where the lower fourth window is along the
bottom we could eliminate that bottom line and make it a wall
section and the window section would be on top of it. I didn't
feel that was appropriate without the Boards direction.
Glenn: The division of four windows greatly impacts the building
and encumbers the facade.
Fred: We believe that the four pane glass looked better in keeping
with what the architect would have done.
Roger: There are two companies in the country, one out of Boulder
and one in the mid-west that make window glazing that have a high
R factor. The one in Boulder is Rocky Mountain Solar. That should
be researched and possibly you would not have to go to the four
pane window.
Fred: It is busier and adds another line in that building.
want to minimize as much as we can the insulated panel.
We
Glenn: Also all the windows are smaller.
Roger: Possibly when you come back after you have researched, do
a drawing over the side showing whatever solution you came up with.
Glenn: Both elevations would be picking up the panel not just one.
The Board needs to see the drawings and give their views.
Roger: I think the glass
Fred: We will research
keeping the window wall.
is the answer.
and come back.
We liked the idea of
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PITKIN COUNTY COURT HOUSE LIGHTING
Roxanne: Pitkin County has requested lighting for the tower which
is being donated.
Les: I think lighting is appropriate as long as it doesn't detract
from the building and it would have to be well done to compliment
the building and the pedestrian flow.
Roger: I would recommend that they consult Rocky Mountain
Institute and that the lighting be totally energy efficient and
simple.
CITY SHOP
Roxanne: The public works director wants to paint the city shop
which is the old Castle Creek Power Plant. There is a cinder block
addition. I have no objection with the cinder block being painted
by the brick would need to have some kind of surface treatment.
Roger is project monitor and they would have to return to the Board
for minor development.
17 QUEEN
Glenn: The house at 17 Queen has been moved and Rudd Construction
has been very accommodating.
214 W. BLEEKEH - MCCARTHY HOUSE - WINDOW DEMO
Roger: I went to the McCarthy's house on Bleeker and the windows
have all been destroyed. I found out that the contractor had a
supervisor and on the weekend the contractor's children and Linda's
children came in a demoed the place to save money and broke the
windows. This brings up a scenario: What do we do when this
happens? Possibly a letter should be sent to the architect and
they should come before the Board and discuss it so that it doesn't
happen in the future. A letter should also go to the contractor
and on-site supervisor and possibly the children and owner should
appear before the Board. We will have a great opportunity to
educate young people as to what we are doing and why.
Jake: This is similar to the gazebo. We need a clear and
consistent way to handle these issues.
Glenn: Possibly we should set up a track record for architects and
developers, contractors etc. similar to a traffic ticket and you
would have a record of proceedings.
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Les: We need to educate the town and have a learning process.
Jake: It is important to have a preservation plan and a bond.
Possibly the use of some kind of stickers.
Bill: Our approval is part of their building permit and when you
get their review you can red line which windows get saved and when
the inspector goes out there he can call the contractor. If they
do not adhere to it a letter is extremely important and it should
go into the builders file. A copy should also go to the architect.
Les: They have to come back now because the approval is different.
Roxanne: This is clearly a zoning violation.
Inventory - Worksession scheduled for Sept. 18, 1991 Noon City Hall
MOTION: Roger made the motion to adjourn; second by Les.
favor, motion carries.
Meeting adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
Ail in
Kathy Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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