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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19891213Historic Preservation Committee Minutes of December, 13, 1989 CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT - 620 W. BLEEKER, WHEELE~ STALLARD HOUSE MINOR DEVELOPMENT-HOTEL JEROME EXTERIOR LIGHTING . LANE IDLESON-STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECT 1 2 3 5 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE MINUTES Second Floor Meeting City Hall December 13, 1989 Meeting was called to order by chairman Bill Poss with Georgeann Waggaman, Joe Krabacher, Don Erdman, Charles Cunniffe, Les Holst and Glenn Rappaport present. Chris Darakis was excused. Lane Idleson, State Historic Preservation Architect observed and commented at meeting. CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT - 620 W. BLEEKER, WHEELER-STATJJ~RD HOUSE Charles stepped down. Chairman opened the public hearing. Roxanne: The applicant has reduced the restroom stalls from 7 to 5 and they have incorporated the ideas from the last meeting. Staff is recommending approval and a FAR variation of 140.5 ft. with conditions as stated in records (memo dated Dec. 13, 1989). There are two alternatives (a) which includes windows on the east elevation and (b) a flat horizontal wall with a stone veneer foundation. The architect's desire was to make it look different so that it would read as a different new addition and to tie it in with materials. I am not in support of (b). Don Westerlind: We would prefer not to put the windows in as it is a bathroom and there is no need except for looks. Georgeann: My objection is the wainescoating. Don Westerlind: That was an idea to break it up and would tie in with the foundation of the Stallard House. Georgeann: What is the material in the gable end. Don Westerlind: Shingles and shingle roofs. Glenn: I am in support of windows and this should be a separate building, a small building on site and not attached to the carriage house. Les: I would rather see no windows or no brick and a solid wall all the way across. Possibly one window could be put in but it is not that critical. Don: Natural light is advisable and perhaps some form of natural light could be placed in the gable end. Don Westerlind: The window pattern should match the windows on Historic Preservation Committee Minutes of December, 13, 1989 the west and south side and I would recommend against any window in the gable due to expense. Roxanne: They could restudy the elevation for fenestration. MOTION: Don made the motion that conceptual development approval be granted and FAR variation be granted of 140.5 ft. for the addition of the Wheeler-Stallard Carriage House with the following conditions to be met at Final Development Review: 1. Exact materials be represented. 2. Landscaping plans including walkway materials be submitted. 3. Revision to the exterior which includes a stone base be omitted in favor of a clapboard wall continuous and that the fenestration be restudied with the possibility of including one window on the north side and two on the revised east elevation, such windows being of such size and location to provide privacy and yet provide light to each of the spaces within the bathroom configuration. Georgeann second. All approved. Don Westerlind: One window per bathroom. Roxanne: For clarification of the motion to restudy the fenestration to provide for windows on the three separate spaces of the east elevation with the other conditions as stated. MINOR DEVELOPMENT-HOTEL JEROME EXTERIOR LIGHTING Roxanne: Staff is recommending approval with the condition that Committee approve the actual fixture. Dave Gibson, architect: The building has a dark mass with little night lighting. We want to preserve the floating effect from the cornice. We want to wash the walls with pools of incandescent light and on the front use uplights. There are already four of the proposed lights on the building (appleton fixture). We would have a row of lights on the west. Don: The down lighting that is contemplated on the east elevation and west will possibly produce pools of light that would go into the third floor windows. Manager: If the lights bother the guest there would be adjustments made, possibly shutting them off at midnight. Dave: We are trying to angle the lighting toward the architectural features of the Hotel. Historic Preservation Committee Minutes of December, 13, 1989 Les: Have you looked at taking the present down lights and reversing them so the same shape is maintained. Dave: The light that exists goes up and down and we are only proposing up. Manager: I have no objection and I can see what you are saying as opposed to having the bare bulb have the goose neck lights shining up on the building. Don: The shade is providing styling and members of the Committee are concerned about styling. Manager: Our goal is to highlight the architectural features and if it will do the same there is no reason to be objective. MOTION: Charles made the motion to approve the lighting of the Hotel Jerome with the condition that the uplights be modified to be a utilitarian lamp rather than the lamp that is presented with a collar. To be a utilitarian lamp without a cow. Joe second. All approved. (P5206-black finish) · 24ENDED MOTION: Charles amended the motion to approve the lighting for the Hotel Jerome (goose neck) down lighting as proposed but recommend that the applicant restudy the proposed uplight to come back with a smaller less obtrusive light and staff could sign off. Joe amended the second. All approved. Motion carries. LANE IDLESON-STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECT Lane Idleson, with regard to 624 E. Hopkins after demolition is determined the question of what the infill should look like is determined. Infill means you are filling in within some kind of context, historic context. You are trying to make a new building compatible with historic structures around it. What you have here is no historic context once the historic building is removed. I don't feel there is enough of a context in the whole block. The charge then is what should new architecture in Aspen look like. The Board must decide if they desire to define what new architecture should look like in Aspen. Glenn: The town house type of housing is emerging. Lane: Possibly someone should be looking at vacant sites and determine what type of town houses are appropriate. There is no continuity in terms of new construction in this town. What should good urban design look like. Every time an historic district/ordinance etc. has been challenged it has always been on 3 Historic Preservation Committee Minutes of December, 13, 1989 the basis of some arbitrary decision. It is very important to have some specific criteria to evaluation this against. If they are evaluated individually and one is an acceptable design and one isn't you have to be very careful as to why one is acceptable and one isn't. What are the things that are important about an specific design. Meeting adjourned 7:00 p.m. Kathy Strickland, Deputy City Clerk