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Minutes of June 14, 1989
FINAL DEVELOPMENT MOUNTAIN RESCUE - 630 W. MAIN
ELKS BUILDING - LANDMARK DESIGNATION 210 S. GALEN
200 E. MAIN STREET - AMENDMENT TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT
VARIATION .
GUIDOS SWISS INN - MINOR DEVELOPMENT
612 W. MAIN ST. CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC HEARING
FAR
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HISTORI6 PRESERVATION COMMITTEE
MINUTES
City Council Chambers
1st Floor City Hall
June 14, 1989 - 5:00 p.m.
Meeting was called to order by chairman Bill Poss with Georgeann
Waggaman, Nick Pasquarella, Joe Krabacher and Charles Cunniffe
present. Charlie Knight, Don Erdman, Zoe Compton and Chris
Darakis were excused.
MOTION: Charles made the motion to approve the minutes of May
24, 1989. Nick second, all approved.
COMMITTEE MEMBER AND STAFF COMMENTS
Charles: If a project is controversial, possibly those who were
absent should listen to the tape and read the minutes if they are
voting on the issue at the next meeting. This would help
continuity.
MOTION: Joe made the motion to add Guido's Swiss Inn, minor
development to the agenda. Georgeann second. All approved.
FINAL DEVELOPMENT MOUNTAIN RESCUE - 630 W. MAIN
Graeme Means: The eaves have a 1 x 8 fascia which seems to be
in scale. The siding shows the same as the logs on the front of
about 5 1/4 inches so the siding on the addition will relate to
the original logs. If the building is within 5 to 10 feet of the
property line windows need protection.
Roxanne: You aren't changing the size of the opening just the
glass to make it fire rated.
Graeme Means, architect: We might change the opening an inch to
make the glass fit.
Roxanne:
windows.
What about egress. They aren't making you have egress
Graeme: Not on those two facades.
Bill: At conceptual the Board voted to allow the tower but I
find it not in keeping 'with the rest of the neighborhood. A
gable end window would have been a better selection.
Georgeann: I had no problem with the tower.
MOTION: Georgeann made the motion that HPC grant final
development approval for the Mountain Rescue building at 630 W.
Main Street, to be as presented with the corrections and changes
in the eaves as were shown tonight and subject to whatever
requirements they need for the wire glass windows as long as in
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the original buildings the
minimum. Minor changes to be
All approved.
changes are made to the absolute
signed off by Staff. Nick second.
ELKS BUILDING - ~ANDMARK DESIGNATION 210 S. GAT~NA
MOTION: Georgeann made the motion to recommend designation of
the Elks Building. Charles second. All approved.
Nick: We are going to upgrade the building internally and I
have been lobbying for 7 years to get the building designated and
the next step will be to get the building on the National
Register.
Roxanne: There will be a change to the exterior as they want to
put on an elevator similar to what the Wheeler Opera House has.
Georgeann: We might want to discuss the issue of elevators and
how we deal with them in a worksession.
Nick abstained from voting.
200 E. MAIN STREET - AMENDMENT TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT FAR VARIATION
Roxanne: The issue is whether this is an appropriate action for
this Board to take as far as granting a variation with the
specific finding that ft is more compatible to the historic
resource. The historic resource is the adjacent structure.
Bill: I find it to be incompatible because we didn't want the
windows to be that exposed and they chose the employee housing.
The design could have been done differently.
Charles: A smaller window would be more compatible from the
Board's point of view.
Holly Proctor: We are requesting a variation for 155 sq. feet
floor area. We only counted the stair wells once and they should
have been counted twice which would take us over FAR 58 sq. ft.
To avoid taking a chunk out of the building we are asking for a
variation so we can keep the building as it is. We feel the
building as it stands now does allow for a smooth transition that
works well for the neighborhood. The light wells and basement
walls above grade would be the balance.
Bill: What could you offer to the Board that makes it more
compatible historically to allow for this variation.
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Holly: The first and second levels I can't say without doing
studies and taking out 60 sq. ft.
Bill: To grant a variation for ease of going through the
process is not in our purview unless we can prove that it is
compatible historically. To grant variations for additional
floor area above what the zoning code says for a new building I
am finding hard to justify.
Georgeann: On the second element where you want to keep the
basement where it is, bgcause the basement lines up nicely with
the basement of Gracy's, perhaps we could say the smaller they
are the more they are in keeping with the historic elements of
the whole area. We just can't arbitrarily grant this because you
have worked with us and we like the design.
Donald Fleisher: The building should not be lowered due to the
residential use downstairs. The other issue is the alignment of
the windows.
Charles: We deal with this problem all the time and it could be
resolved by cutting off a few inches of the building somewhere.
Change the dimension on the last ten feet of the building. We
have already exempted the building from GMP. It would be
stretching our bounds for us to permit more than the amount of
square feet that we are allowed to permit because there is an
architectural error here.
MOTION: Nick made the motion to deny the request proposed as it
is out of our bounds. Charles second. Yes vote: Nick, Charles,
Bill, Joe. No vote: Georgeann.
Bill: Since this is a new building they could step the building
back to conform to grad~ so that they don't have to count that
floor area.
Joe: In general it would be more compatible if it were smaller.
Bill Drueding, Zoning Officer: If you have a new building you
should design it within the code.
GUIDOS SWISS INN - MINOR DEVELOPMENT
Bill Poss stepped down.
Roxanne: The applicant proposes to remove the grass and place
concrete in the rear area behind the restaurant to beautify the
dining area. The area will be fenced and planters will be
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installed. The area is on the south side of the building facing
Rubey Park.
Guido Meyer, owner: The fence is around four feet tall and two
sides of the fence are already there. We want to put a patio in
and make use of it.
Georgeann: What about lighting.
Guide: There will be low lights to light the plants.
MOTION: Charles made the motion to approve the minor
development for Guido's Swiss Inn. Nick second. Ail approved.
612 W. MAIN ST. CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC HEARING
Bill opened the public hearing.
Roxanne Eflin, Historic Preservation Planner presented the over-
view of the project as attached in records (memo June 14, 1989).
Roxanne: This is an asphalt clad cottage with no foundation.
They want to put a new foundation in and relocate the cottage on
their 6,000 sq. ft. parcel which is two lots. They intend to
excavate an entire basement, add an addition on and raise the
structure approximately 30 inches and screen the foundation with
lattice. Staff finds that raising the structure is not
appropriate and breaks the rhythm of the block. The partial
demolition is for the two small attachments to the rear to be
removed. One appears to be an original porch that was enclosed.
Roxanne: The secretary of interior standards state that with
partial demolition that all changes which may have taken place in
the course of time are evidence of the history and development of
the building and that changes may have acquired significance in
their own right. It is important for the HPC to consider if
these two attachments have acquired significance. The new
addition we find to be appropriate in scale and materials. The
east elevation needs to be restudied. Every original opening is
being changed. We find that the east elevation completely
changes from its original character. We are requiring that the
original siding under the asphalt be rehydrated and painted with
only patching in of new clapboard where extreme deterioration has
taken place. All original windows should be retained and
preserved. Porch and chimney element shall be preserved.
Original landscaping shall be retained. Roofing material shall
be wood shingles stained dark. We are recommending approval with
conditions as stated on page 5 of memo dated June 14, 1989. The
applicant also proposes to install decorative cut shingles in the
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gable face. We recommend approval only if it is found to be
historically accurate.
APPLICANT RESPONSE
Rod Dyer, architect: The porch was added on at a later date.
Both shed structures are about to collapse and are incompatible
with the floor plan. We are representing a height increase of
about 2'6" over what we have presently. We want to raise the
building in order to add a basement under the house and the owner
wants the increased square footage and we are within the FAR. In
order to do this we must provide light and egress out of the
basement if at some time it is used for habitable space. The
owner has lots 0 & P of Block 24. The present location of the
house is on the western line of lot P. The owner would like to
move the house in order to add on a sitting/family room with a
deck. The wood deck would be screened by compatible shrubbery.
They intend to remodel the kitchen/dining area and put a
fireplace in the livingroom. There would be modifications to the
bath area. We would like to add a bay window to give room for a
large dining table. At the kitchen we would like to add a
greenhouse type window to provide more light into the kitchen.
We will have guard rails on the porch. The addition would be
done in the same type of siding. We would like to do the roof in
an thick asphalt shingle because the applicant already had one
historic building burn t~ the ground. We would like to utilize
decorative shingles on the gable ends.
COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS
Nick: I feel comfortable with everything except raising the
building.
Charles:
block in
developed.
I am concerned about the building being shifted on the
relationship to the other buildings as they get
Georgeann: Perhaps the building shifts a little too far to the
left. I don't like it being quite as tight with the building to
the left. I am uncomfortable with the building being raised.
Roxanne:
it.
Possibly not raising the building
but just shifting
Joe: I don't think it is in keeping with the character of the
neighborhood to raise the building up and I don't like the
railings on the inside of the porch. As far as moving it over I
don't have a strong preference. I also have no problem with the
asphalt roofing.
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Georgeann: I would like the front of the building to remain and
stay in the plane as it is and only raised no more than a foot.
I am opposed to the railing and to the concrete walk.
Nick was excused.
Bill: As far as relocation I am in favor of it because the
rhythm has just shifted from one side of the lot to the other and
the historical rhythm of the street is retained. As far as
raising the structure it' should be retained within the historic
nature of the street because most of the structures were at
street level. I would be willing to raise it no more than a
foot. I am in favor of the partial demolition. I have a problem
with extending the roof continually back on the new addition.
Keep the same gable and drop it a foot.
Roxanne: On the east elevation every existing opening has been
changed and I feel it needs more study. I am not sure if the bay
window is appropriate on this structure.
Bill: On the west elevation the applicant should try to work
with the existing windows if possible.
Charles: We should have the applicant restudy the roofing
materials and bring in samples.
MOTION: Bill made the motion that HPC recommend and grant
conceptual development approval for the proposal at 612 W. Main
St. subject to the following conditions to be met at final
development which are represented on page 5 and 6 of Staff's memo
dated June 14, 1989. In addition item #9 That the structure
shall not be raised more.than 6 to 12 inches to order to correct
any drainage problems. Item #10 Elimination of the railings
completely. Item #11 'Restudy of the east and west elevations
particularly fenestration. Item #12 Restudy making the addition
more distinguishable from original. A break in the roof
alignment and wall plane to distinguish between historic and new.
Item #13 Concrete walk be eliminated and applicant to come up
with a more historical material. Item #14 Restudy roofing
materials. Charles second. All approved. Motion carries.
COMMUNICATIONS
Committee changed July l~th meeting. Meeting to begin at 3:00.
CLG grant will be $12,000 next year.
Committee scheduled worksession at 4:00 for the next meeting June
28, 1989.
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Roxanne: We need to take about the re-evaluation process also.
We also need to look at the inventory.
Meeting adjourned 7:00 p.m.
Kathy Strickland, Deputy'City Clerk'
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