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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19841022 Reqular Meeting Aspen City Council Ocotber 22, 1984 JOINT MEETING WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 4:15 p.m. with Commissioners Kinsley, Blake, Madsen and Klanderud and Councilmembers Walls, Blomquist and Knecht present. 1. Trails Trade. City Manager Schilling explained the trade agreemen5 was drafted by the city and the county attorney has not had the opportunity to review this. Mayor Stirling moved to table this item until November ~, 1984; seconded by Commissioner Blake. All in favor, motion carried. The Boards requested that exhibits A, B, and C be attached. Councilman Knecht asked about Wagner Park. Commissioner Kinsley said he would like the Boards to accept or reject the trails proposal on its own merits. Wagner Park is a separase issue. 2. Ruedi Operations and Maintenance Agreement. Mayor Stirling asked why the agreement is for 20 years. Assistant City Manaqer Ron Mitchell said that 5erm was negotiated, and these types of agreements are long term. Michael Kinsley asked how the city and county know if they are getting the best deal Mitchell said the consulting engineers looked at this, and Mark Fuller has checked around about this. The Boards asked about G.E.s experience in operating hydro facilities. Lou Brown and Bill Hannah representing G.E. were present. The G.E. representatives explained their experience and said they have the capability to do this. Mayor Stirling asked if G.E. would hire local personnel to run the facility. ~u~ ~v~u~n9 Aspen City Council October 22, 1984 G. E. representative told the Boards there will be a local for day-to-day operations and for emergency response. Mayor Stirling pointed o%t there is a requirement for the facility il to be fixed within 24 hours from May 2 and November 1, and 48 hours the rest of the year. Mark Fuller said one of the reasons is the accessibility of the site during the winter, also the May to November dates is when the city will be getting the majority of generation out of the plant. Fuller told the Board the staff requested proposals for operation and maintenance at the same time as proposals for design and construction. A number of firms made both proposals. The proposals were evaluated, and G.E.s proposal ~ was the preferred one. Fuller said he is projecting the start date in July 1985, which is a guess. Mayor Stirling said the contract calls for additional monies if more than 18 million kilowatt hours are produced. Fuller said the idea behind this is to build an incentive into the contract so G.E. depends on the efficient operation of the plant for a percentage of the yearly payment!. Fuller said all hydro plants are unique, so it was difficult to come up with an applicable performance standard. Fuller told the Board G.E. has limited its liability in dollar termSl during the first five years of operation to the contract price. They have also limited the~ kind of claims that can be brought against them to those that arise directly tQ performance of non-performance of the contract. Fuller told the Boards, G.E.s proposed fee for operating the facility was comparable to or lower than the other.proposals and it is wider in scope. Councilman Knecht moved to read Ordinance #35, Series of 1984; seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE ~35 (Series of 1984) AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY AND THE CITY OF ASPEN AND PITKIN COUNTY, COLORADO, FOR THE OPERATION, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF THE RUEDI HYDROELECTRIC FACILITY AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE SAID AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF ASPEN was read by the city clerk Councilman Knecht moved to adopt Ordinance #35, Series of 1984, on first reading; seconded by Councilman Blomquist. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Walls, aye; Blomquist, aye; Knecht, aye; Mayor Stirling, aye. Motion carried. Commissioner Klanderud moved to approve the county's ordinance; seconded by Commissioner Blake. All in favor, motion carried. Commissioner Kinsley said the Commissioners have met about the dismissal of the planning director. The county is not sure what direction the city will take and are concerned that the work program be adequately pursued. Kinsley asked the Council to let the county know as soon as possible what direction they will take. Council scheduled a meeting with the city manager to discuss a number of items, the first one being planning for November 7 at 7 p.m. Council and Commissioners set a joint meeting to discuss planning on Novemberi 8at7p.m. COUNCIL MEETING PROCLAMATION - Andre Roch Mayor Stirling said Andre Roch brought racing to Aspen in 1936. The Roch Cup race was first held in Aspen in 1946. Mayor Stirling read a proclamation honoring Roch and proclaiming October 26th Andre Roch Day. Mayor Stirling presented the proclamation to Roch. Roch told Council it is nice to be recognized. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION 1. Lee Miller reminded Council he had talked to them previously about his water bill, and! the city researched this. The water bill is in fact $232 a month for one person, which is absurd. 2. Lee Miller told Council as condominium manager, he receives public notices from P & Z which he is supposed to mail to the condominium owners. Miller has to address and mail the envelopes and answer questions from the owners. Miller said there is not enough information on the notices and that the city should be mailing these notices to the owners~ Mayor Stirling asked the city manager to look into this procedure. Mayor Stirling told Miller the Council is scheduled to meet November 5 to discuss the water and electric rates. 3. Lee Miller said he represents an intense tourist district with a chip and seal street, no curbs, gutters, sidewalkS or street lights. Miller said people pay a lot to stay in this area, and the city receives a lot of sales tax from this. The improvements for this area have been talked about for years and nothing has been done. Mayor Stirling said some progress has been made and some changes have been made, and asked the city manager to report these to Miller. Councilman Blomquist said splitting off the upper district has been discussed rather than waiting for the hotel project. Councilman Blomquist said anyone can initiate an improvement district. 4. Mayor Stirling said he had called Tom Benton about Aspen joining Pitkin County in becoming a nuclear free zone. Tom Benton introduced Paul Crawford, founder of the common sense coalition, which is trying to get some control over nuclear waste problem that will be shipped through the state. Benton presented a zoning amendment to declare Pitkin County a nuclear free zone to make it difficult for the federal government to ship waste through the county. This will make the federal government conform to certain regulations. Regular Meeting Aspen City Council uc~oDer Paul Crawford told Council the waste the government will be hauling is a very high level radioactive waste. There will be up to 120 trucks a day rolling through Colorado. There are concerns about sabotage and accidents. Crawford said the federal government has to hear from the west and do an alternative solution. Crawford said the reactors in the east can be permanently entombed rather than hauled to the west. Councilman Blomquist moved to ask the city attorney and planning office to prepare ordinanc~es prohibiting nuclear waste in the city of Aspen and prohibiting its containment in any vehicle, and addressing any other waste of similar nature; seconded by Mayor Stirling. All in favor, motion carried. 5. Bill McDonough requested being added to the agenda for an encroachment request for an awning over his store, Councilman Knecht moved to add this to the agenda; seconded by Councilman Blomquist. All in favor, motion carried. 6. Jeff Evans said there is a trash problem at Smuggler trailer park. The dumpsters have been moved and lined up along Spruce street with a three-sided fence. Evans said the rest of the neighborhood has to look at this trash. Evans went to the building department and found this location had been approved under SPA plan. The engineering department then told him the city has no regulations to govern dumpsters, either location or closures except in the commercial core. Evans said he would like the city to put together regula- tions regarding dumpsters. Mayor stifling agreed this is unsightly but the city is not in the trash business and it might not be appropriate to step in a situation like this. Councilman Blomquist suggested appointing a task force to study solutions to the problems city wide, including no bumpers on the dumpsters. Mayor Stirling moved that City Manager Schilling research this in order to give Council the benefits of his experience, to consult with engineering and planning, and to report back to Council as soon as possible; seconded by Councilman Knecht. Councilman Knecht suggested looking into the SPA plan to see if this is where the trash dumpsters was planned. Councilman Blomquist said he wOuld like to know every dumpster on the city right-of-way. All in favor, motion carried. Jon Busch said this property where the dumpsters are may be city or county property and the staff should investigate this. COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS 1. Councilwoman Walls said she is concerned about the lot split applications and would like to know why there is an ordinance to allow lot splits, and is this necessary. Councilwoman Walls said when subdivision lines are ~rawn, there ought to be some assurance that is the way it will stay. Councilwoman Walls moved to have a moratorium on lot splits until City Attorney Taddune can research this and report back to Council; seconded by Councilman Knecht. City Attorney Taddune said he will come back to Council with a lot split ordinance and will ask the planning office to research the provision of lot splits. All in favor, with the exception of Mayor Stirling. City Attorney Taddune told Council the Court of Appeals has reversed the P & Z determina- tion in the Quillen case. This is a lot split case; Taddune will be reporting to Council. 2. Mayor Stirling said Council has about 25 applicants for various Board and Commissions and needs to interview these. Council scheduled the interviews November 6, 7, and 8 from 3 to 5 p.m. 3. Mayor Stirling said the work session with P & Z for October 23 has been cancelled and suggested meeting with P & Z during the November 7th meeting with the manager. 4. Mayor Stirling told Council the task force committee heads are ready to report to Council and would like to meet November 19th at 5 p.m. 5. Mayor Stirling told Council the new light fixtures for the town are assembled on the third floor. 6. Mayor Stirling reminded Council tomorrow there will be two panel discussions sponsored by the League of Women Voters, the city and county on consolidation and highway 82 ballot issues. PROCLAMATION - Aspen Ski Club Mayor Stirling read a proclamation about the Aspen Ski Club and proclamed November 4 as Aspen Ski Club week. ORDINANCE ~34, SERIES OF 1984 - InduStrial Revenue Bonds/Aspen Skiing Company Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. Jerry Blann, Aspen Skiing Company, said they are attempting to accelerate capital expenditures into three years. Blann said there are advantages available through an industrial revenue bond through the end of the year. Fred Smith, Skiing Company, presented preliminary plans for Aspen/Buttermilk area and told Council they have not received all necessary approvals at this point. Smith said there have been many meetings to determine what is problematic on Aspen mountain, which conditions need to be resolved to improve the ski experience, which conditions need to be addressed to revitalize the image of Aspen. ~egu~ar ~ee~lng aspen u~y uounc~± OctoDer 22, 19S4 Smith told Council Aspen mountain has old lifts, difficulty of access to the intermediate terrain, poor distribution of intermediate skiers, limited initial access lift capacity, expert terrain outside the permit area. Aspen is going through an upgrade, and the Skiing Company would like to be part of the renovation. Smith told Council on Aspen mountain, the weakest link is initial access capacity, especially lifts lA and 5. Smith said the Skiing Company plans to upgrade the Bell Mountain system from 750 people per hour to 1050 per hour. The Skiing Company will address the intermediate terrain delivery system by changing lift 3 from 1200 skiers per hour to 1800 per hour. They plan to expand and distribute skiers as much as possible. Smith said they plan to construct a new lift on Gentleman's Ridge. Smith showed Council a tape of a new lift which carries four people in a chair and travels at 1,000 feet per minute. The present lifts run at about 450 feet per minute. This will eliminate the congestion and conflict of .different types of skiers. Smith said there will be an increase in the amount of vertical skiing in a day. Councilman Blomquist asked if this will over-crowd the quality skiing experience. Smith said this will not over-crowd but will result in a better distribution of skiers with less congestion and a better utilization of the existing terrain. Smith said the planning parameters include that the lift systems are designed to carry a lesser degree than the mountain can accommodate. Smith told Council Buttermilk will have an improved skier information system; Blann pointed out these are proposed plans as there are other approvals to go through as well as other issues. The first year will be the upgrade of lifts 3 and 5; second year remove lift 2 and replace it with a new lift; third year is lift 4. David Zaagman said Congress's intent is that industrial revenue bonds are to benefit the community rather than capitalists. Zaagman said he would like to be sure the $30 million benefits the community. Bill McDonough said this proposal is about time and he would like to applaud the decision. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing. Councilman Blomquist moved to adopt Ordinance #34, Series of 1984, on second reading; seconded by Councilman Knecht. Mayor Stirling said he favors cooperating with the Skiing Company in this venture. The proposal as presented is great and will be a benefit to the skiers. Mayor Stirling said he would like some assurance that the Skiing Company will put money into the Aspen/Buttermiilk areas. Mayor Stirling said he would an additional section, asking for some minimal guarantee that some money be spent at Aspen and Buttermilk. Blann said the Skiing Company is askingi~ for support from Council to put these improvements in place. There is no financial risk to the community. Blann said the industry is changing and the market conditions are chang~ ing. Blann said in Aspen the mountain capacity is tied to the bed capacity, and they cannot increase their peaks. Blann said it is prudent business, given the status of the approvals, the market conditions, and needed flexibility that the Skiing Company cannot give that concession. City Manager Schilling recommended that the two lists of improve- ments planned by the Skiing Company be entered into the record as exhibit A - Aspen mount∈ exhibit B - Buttermilk mountain. Rolls,call vote; Councilmembers Knecht, aye; Walls, aye; Blomquist, aye; Mayor Stirling, aye. Motion carried. McDONOUGH ENCROACHMENT Bill McDonough told Council he has been to the HPC and the Board of Appeals, both gave approval for this awning. This awning will be over the window and will encroach 6 feet into the city right-of-way. It will be the only sign for McDonough's. Jay Hammond, city engineer, said an awning that can be rolled to the building does not require an encroach- ment license. This awning is permanent. Hammond said he has no problems with this request; it does not require any construction on the street level, does not impeded clearning the mall, or accessing the utilities. Hammond said this leaves clearance for normal use of the mall and does not create obstruction at street level. McDonough presented a letter from the fire department stating this will not create problems for fire trucks. Councilman Blomquist moved to approve the encroachment license; seconded by Councilman Knecht. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE #29, SERIES OF 1984 - SPA Amendment Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. Mayor Stirling said there were four proposals presented; remove SPA from all sites,retain SPA on the sites; blend SPA and PUD, and a mixture of eliminating SPA on some sites and keeping it on others, The latter is the recommendation from P & Z. Alan Richman, planning office, said the SPA concept has been overused and should be removed from some of the sites. Richman said blending the SPA and PUD would require as much code as leaving!i an SPA. Richman said there are a few parcels that no one zone can handle, and these should be left SPA. Council said they would like to have a work session with P & Z. Spencer Schiffer objected to adopting this ordinance as the Aspen Institute or the bankruptcy has not had a chance to study the proposal. City Attorney Taddune told Council Ordinance ~29 is not a rezoning; however, specific properties are mentioned and it might appear a rezoning. Richman said these are only recommendations, not rezonings. Schiffer pointed out there is litigation pending between the Institute and the City in which the SPA designation is being challenged. Chuck Brandt, representing the contract buyer for the Institute, said they are also concerned about Section 4 of the ordinance, addressing the Aspen Institute and Academic/SPA zoning for that parcel. Taddune recommended Council delete the entire Section 4. Regular Meeting Aspen ~l%y ~ouncl± UC~ODer zz, l~q Brandt said he is concerned that section 24-7.2(b) requires that parcels have an underlyin~ zoning category designated, which shall be used by the P & Z in reviewing a precise development plan. The section also states the underlying zoning should be based on curren~ available information as to the intended uses of the parcel. If Council zones the Institute underlying zoning Academic, they will be ignoring existing uses of the lodge, restaurant, ahtletics and housing facilities. These facilities need to be upgraded, renovated and expanded. Brandt said he does not believe that Academic zoning provides the flexibility for the Institute. Brandt said he has looked at the city code and does not find any single category fits the Institute. Brandt said any plan for the Meadows would have to vary use in the zoning category. Brandt said if the developer expands the existing lodge facilities at the Institute and has to go through GMP, the Code states lodge units can only be allocated if they are in a lodge zone district. Brandt said he does not feel it is in the interests of Council to be put in the position to have to address use variations. If Council adoPts Academic zoning for the Institute, all structures and uses will be non-conforming. Brandt said the contemplated category for the Institute could put the uses and structures in great jeopardy. Brandt said he would like to form a partnership between the city, the developer and the current landowner to do something creative for the Institute. Richman said the work of P & Z on the 12 sites zoned SPA is just an indication of where this might go; there will be detailed study of the 12 sites. Richman said this work is preliminary only. Taddune recommended continuing the public hearing. Mayor Stirling moved to continue the public hearing until November 12; seconded by Council' woman Walls. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE ~31, SERIES OF 1984 - Water Extension/Owl Creek Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. City Attorney Taddune requested this be continued so the city's water counsel can redraft the agreement more in line with the city's water extension policies. Mayor Stirling moved to continue the public hearing until November 26; seconded by Council~ man Knecht. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE #27, SERIES OF 1984 - Amending Section 19-77(a) Backfill City Manager Schilling requested this be continued until staff has a report on backfill. Councilman Knecht moved to continue this until November 26; seconded by Mayor Stirling. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE ~24, SERIES OF 1984 - Annexing Sunny Park Mayor Stirling asked about the water rights. City Attorney Taddune said he has a copy of the water rights deed but does not know if it has been signed. This has been continued so that Council can rezone this property, which is Ordinance ~36, Series of 1984. Taddune suggested putting this off until the rezoning ordinance has been done. Mayor Stirling moved to continue the public hearing on Ordinance ~24 until November 12; seconded by Councilman Blomquist. All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE ~36, SERIES OF 1984 - Zoning Sunny Park Councilwoman Walls moved to read Ordinance ~36, Series of 1984; seconded by Councilman Blomquist, All in favor, motion carried. ORDINANCE ~36 (Series of 1984) AN ORDINANCE ZONING THE SUNNY PARK NORTH ANNEXATION WHICH LAND WAS ANNEXED TO THE CITY OF ASPEN PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE NO. 24, SERIES OF 1984, AND THE COLORADO MUNICIPAL ANNEXATION ACT AND REZONING LOT 7, SUNNY PARK NORTH SUBDIVISION, FROM R-15 TO R-15A/PUD was read by the city clerk Councilman Blomquist asked what is the difference between R-15 and R-15A and why is PUD necessary on one lot. Glenn Horn, planning office, told Council R-15 zoning is one dwelling for 15,000 square feet but a duplex can be built on 20,000 square feet if the lot is created after 1975. R-15A zoning has been historically applied to annexed pieces of property, and if someone were to build a duplex in R-15A, half that duplex has to be employee housing. Horn said this site can only hold a single family dwelling. The planning office is recommending R-15A because of future annexations and the desire for consistency. Horn told Council the PUD was applied to all of Sunny Park North because of the proximity to 8040 greenline, and there are steep slopes and the slope density formula should apply to this site. slope density only applies witk a PUD. Councilman Blomquist moved to adopt Ordinance ~36, Series of 1984, on first reading; seconded by Councilwoman Walls. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Blomquist, aye; Walls, jaye; Knecht, aye; Mayor stifling, aye. ORDINANCE #26, SERIES OF 1984 Refunding Bonds Finance Director Sheree Sonfield recommended carrying this over until the next Council meeting. Councilman Blomquist moved to table this until November 12; seconded by Council- man Knecht. All in favor, motion carried. ReguLar Meetinq Aspen City Council October 22, 1984 RESOLUTION ~34, SERIES OF 1984 - Adopting 1985 Budget City Manager Schilling told Council the communications board has held two meetings recently and has recommended funding another dispatcher. Schilling said he has had his concerns ~ about the new position answered, does not agree it is necessary for public safety but there are some reasons to fund this position. One of the problems is personnel turnover, which is not good. The workload is getting bunched up. Schilling said some prior calculations were not correct. The original request was for $9,000 but this position can be funded for $5100. This is a change in the director's salary and Snowmass not funding the records position. Gary Plumley requested that the street tree program of $3500 be reinstated into the budget.~ This program gets matching funds from Pitkin County Parks Association and plants street tree each year. This is a very beneficial program and adds to the aeSthetics of the town ~ for residents and visitors both. The city has been losing cottonwoods over the years. This programs replaces the trees the city is losing. David White said he has talked to a lot of people about the Coors bike race and people would like to see it happen and the community should relook at this decision. Councilwoman Walls said this was not Council's decision but one of the organizers who scheduled this during a weekend when the lodges were filled. Mayor Stirling said Council could add this money into the budget and nego- tiate with Coors to change the policy about staying in private homes. Councilman Blomquist said he would not like to see the event put on poorly. Jim Gibbons said there is a group of citizens trying to increase the quality of the golf course and the use of the course. This summer there, were two large golf tournaments and 7 local ones. This group is interested in getting a PGA tournament in Aspen. Gibbons said he would like the city to fund the golf promotion and to use the money in different ways. The promotion this summer got better gOlf course exposure, increased business revenues, provided funds for charity. Mayor Stirling said he supports this Program. Councilwoman Walls said she would like the money for the comparable worth study put back into the budget. The city has received a proposal from a company to do this study for $35O0. City Manager Schilling told Council he has been working with the personnel director to bring recommendations to Council to make.appropriate adjustments. This is not a comparable worthii study but a pay equity classification. Mayor Stirling said these requests total $44,000 First request, additional communications staff member $5100 all in favor, with the excepti°n of Mayor Stirling. Second, PCPC matching street tree program all in favor with the exception of Councilwoman Walls. Third, Coors class request of $12,300 Mayor Stirling in favor; other opposed. Fourth, request continue promoting golf course of $20,000 Mayor Stirling in favor, other opposed. Fifth $3500 for comParable worth study all in favor, with the exception of Councilman Blomquist. Council approved an additional $12,000 to the 1985 budget as presented. Councilman Blomquist moved to adopt Resolution #34, Series of 1985, as amended; seconded by Councilman Knecht. Mayor Stirling said the expenditures are as projected but the sales tax revenue is under budget by 1/2 per cent. Mayor Stirling said he is concerned about the 4.5 per cent target for 1985 and does not want to get in trouble with the 1985 projection. Mayor Stirling said the 1985 budget has items in it that have not been in recent budget. One is $38,000 to take care of the trails. Councilman Knecht pointed out that the contribution to PCPA has been reduced the same amount. Mayor Stirling said Council has a contingency fund in the budget, originally of $91,000 for Council to use to fund various requests during the year. The budget also contains the debt service for capital improvements for the first year of a five year program. Mayor Stirlinq said Council is not funding any money for Winternational, the golf course promotion, or the city management audit. Mayor Stirling asked which city fees are being increased. Finance Director said the softball fees will be increased based on direct costs; the engineering fees will be increased slightly, water rates will be presented to council. Golf course fees will increase slightly. Ted Armstronic recreation director, asked how to proceed with the golf promotion program. Mayor Stirling said they should come back with specific proposals. Councilman Knecht said the ARA ought to be involved in funding this also and a proposal brought back. All in favor, with the exception of Mayor Stirling. Motion carried. RESOLUTION ~35, SERIES OF 1984 - Certifying Mill Levy Councilman Blomquist moved, given the additions to the budget, Council approved Resolution #35, 1984, with a mill levy of 4.00 mills. Motion DIES for lack of second Mayor Stirling pointed out the school board is asking for a 2.81 mill levy increase in an election tomorrow. The county is also asking for an increase in mill levy of 1.5 mills. Mayor Stirling said it is important the city hold their mill levy. Mayor Stirling moved the city decrease the mill levy from 3.88 to 3.50 mills. Motion DIES for lack of a second. Councilman Knecht moved to adopt Resolution ~35, Series of 1984, as presented with a mill levy of 3.88 mills; seconded by Councilman Blomquist. All in favor, motion carried. NUGGET ALLEY RELOCATION Jay Hammond, city engineer, presented maps of the property and told Council the city has an alley through the property, which is landscaped. The applicant is requesting to trade with the city on a square foot basis the alley for the land on the north~ The applicants will allow continued use of the alley as an utility easement. Councilman Blomquist moved approval of the request for trade; seconded by Councilman Knecht. Mayor Stirling asked if the public loses any access in this area as a result of this trade. Regular Meeting Aspen City councl£ uc~ooer zz, Hammond said in terms of use, no. Mayor Stirling asked if the applicant has been requestedl to join any improvement districts. Gideon Kaufman, representing the applicant, said this may already be in the previous documents. Councilman Blomquist amended his motion to include improvement districts if it is not already in the documents; seconded by Councilman Knecht. Mayor Stirling asked if this trade benefits the citizens of town. Hammond said it benefits them as it formalizes a situation that already exists. Bil Dunaway asked about the Charter provision that no land should be sold or exchanged without approval of the voters. Kaufman said the city attorney has recommended this be called an alley relocation, as this is formalizing a situation existing for years. Councilman Knecht pointed out the city created the L-3 zone district so that owners could upgrade older lodges. The city has to cooperateI with applicants to make these projects work. Councilman Blomquist said in the adjacent block the alley is already vacated. Hammond told Council in his maps, this alley is shown as vacated; however, no ordinance has been found. City Attorney Taddune told Council citiels do not own streets the way cities own property. Cities have been given the right to use streets and alleys. Kaufman told Council the applicant is trading the city 2,250 square feet for 2,250 square feet. i .~ All in favor, with the exception of Mayor Stirling. Motion carried. Council made this subject to the city attorney's satisfaction. TROLLEY TASK FORCE REPORT Councilman Blomquist moved to loan one of the Aspen trolley cars to the Downtown Pasadena project for a period of 18 months under the terms and conditions outlined in Charles Sims letter of August 22, 1984; seconded by CouncilWoman Walls. Councilman Knecht told Council the task force got all background material available and all task force members are against selling the trolleyccars and are for moving to the next step. In order to proceed to the cost phase and the routes, which are Rubey park to the Rio Grande, a loop to the post office, and a loop from Rubey to lift lA the group agreed to ask Council for $2500 for the cost phase update. Councilman Knecht said the task force agreed if this was not worth $2500 to the city, the city should sell the trolley cars. Mayor Stirling asked how much the city has spent to date on the trolleys. Jon Busch said the city has not spent any money; the original study was done privately. Councilman Blomquist said he made the motion in order to get at least one of the trolleys protected. Mayor Stirling objected to spending money on a non-existent system. Councilman Blomquist suggested asking RFTA to fund the $2500 for the study. Councilman Knecht said these are city trolleys and the Council should make this decision. Councilman Blomquist pointed out if the City loaned the trolley to Pasadena and it is restored by them, the trolley will be worth more. Councilman Blomquist withdrew his motion. Councilman Knecht moved to approve a budget item of $2500 for an update to the Aspen Trolley Study to be prepared by Ben Minnich; seconded by Councilman Blomquist. Jon Busch told Council cities are buying up antique trolley cars across the United State. Cities have found that trolle~are very valuable to their communities. All in favor, with the exception of Mayor Stirling. Motion carried. Busch suggested these trolleys be stored in the bus barn or under the protective eye of city department and covered with plastic. Councilman Knecht said he would like to explore the alternatives. Councilman Blomquist moved to instruct the manager to find a place to store the trolleys and get them out of the weather; seconded by Councilman Knechto All in favor, motion carried. Councilman Knecht moved to loan one of the Aspen trolley cars to the downtown Pasadena project for a period of 18 months under the terms and conditions outlined in the August 22, 1984, letter from Charles Sims, project manager of the downtown PaSadena Inc., subject to approval in form by the city attorney; seconded by Councilman Blomquist. Mayor Stirling said he did not feel trolleys are indigenous to Aspen. Busch said horse drawn trolley cars existing in Aspen and may have been electrical at some time. David White pointed out there is no north/south link in Aspen. The buses run mostly east/west. The task force felt the north/south link is important and should be taken care of. All in favor, motion carried. Councilman Knecht moved to instruct the city attorney to prepare a ballot question concern- ing dispostion of the Aspen trolleys and present same to City Council in time for inclusioni on the general election ballot in May 1985; seconded by Councilman Blomquist with the addition of "possible inclusion". All in favor, with the exception of Mayor Stirling. Motion carried. ANNEXATION REPORT Mayor Stirling moved to table this until November 12, 1984; seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion carried. ART MUSEUM FLOOD CONTROL Jay Hammond, city engineer, told Council the staff is ready to remove the fill on the Aspen One property to alleviate the flooding in the spring. This will widen the channel. Hammond said the city will be using part of the Aspen One property as the primary for the 1984-85 winter while looking for a permanent snow dump site. Hammond said he plans to remove about 10,000 cubic yards of fill. The alternatives for placing this fill are redistributing it on the Aspen One, the dump, the Marolt property. The staff is recommend~ ing placing this fill on the Marolt property. Hammond said staff feels they could distribute the dirt, create a contour and dispose of the fill in a permanent fashion. Hammond said Council would like to see the fill redistributed on the Rio Grande land. Hammond said he is concerned about timing, and would like to get work done on this parcel this year. Hammond said redistribution on the Rio Grande has ramifications for the permanent plan for this area and would not like to do redistribution which may preclude long range planning for the Rio Grande° Hammond said this work is only a first phase of cleaning up the Rio Grande area. Mayor Stirling asked what the $6,000 expenditure is for. Hammond said it is for equipment the city does not have in-house. Hammond said they have to do the work and not impact the river. They will excavate with a long reach backhoe to do the delicate work without getting into the river. The rest of the work will be done in-house and by a volunteer contractor. Councilman Knecht said he has problems putting this dirt on the Marolt; the Council worked hard at getting this property for open space. This land was to be left as a meadow, and PCPA has a proposal to Council about.a maintenance operation to take care of the Marolt and Thomas properties. PCPA has voted that no dirt and no snow be dumped on the Marolt property. Councilman Blomquist said the city could put 10 feet of fill on top on the hill on the Rio Grande property, and presented a sketch of his suggestion. Councilman Blomquist shared the concern about not putting the dirt on the Marolt property. Mayor Stirling said he would like to know the costs of Blomquist's proposal. Hammond said a major cost would be moving the impound lot fence. The plan would also close off Spring street. Mayor Stirling said he would not want this street closed off. Hammond said the staff does not want to have to move the dirt tWice. Mayor Stirling moved to allot $6,000 general fund monies in 1984 to do the work Hammond has described and to spread 10,000 cubic years in the snow dump area. Mayor Stirling said he does not want to do the Blomquist plan because it will eliminate parking and possibly close Spring street. Gary Plumley said he is opposed to putting any dirt on the Marolt property. Joe Edwards said the city had purchased the Rio Grande with open space and transportation funds. Edwards said he had hopes the city would do a river front park rather than using this area as a construction staging camp, snow dump and impound lot. Edwards said he would like this Council to take the initiative and make this area a riverfront par~. Mayor Stirling said this Council is working on improving this Councilman Blomquist moved to generally do his plan as presented, include the roadway with proper sheep's footin~ for a narrow 18 foot road in the basic landscaping scheme; seconded by Councilman Knecht. All in favor, with the exception of Mayor Stirling. Motion carried. Mayor Stirling asked the staff to report back how much additional cost this will be over the $6,000. Councilman Blomquist said the P & Z has tabled the stream margin review. Councilman Blomquist said this plan carries out a restoration of the original river. This project should start tomorrow to get done before the snow comes. Councilman Blomquist read an emergency ordinance to allow the city to start this project. City Manager Hal Schilling said P & Z was concerned about the effect down stream of the alteration of the water course. P & Z continued this item to their next meeting to get information from the i staff. Hammond pointed out the city should go through the stream margin review process as the private homeowners have done. CCLC LIGHTING PLAN PHASES II & III Councilman Knecht moved to table this to November 12, 1984; seconded by Councilman Blomquis~ All in.favor, motion carried REQUEST FOR EXPANDED PREMISES Smuggler Land Office; Ute City Banque City Clerk Kathryn Koch explained the Council has to improve any expansions of liquor licensed premises. The Smuggler is expanding 250 feet to the east; the Ute City Banque 400 feet to the east. There are leases for both new spaces. Councilwoman Walls moved to approve the expanded premises for the Smuggler Land Office and Ute City Banque; seconded by Councilman Knecht. All in favor, motion carried. LIQUOR LICENSE RENEWALS City Clerk Koch requested the Copper Kettle be tabled in order to receive police reports. Councilman Blomquist moved to approve Bentley's; Clark's Market and the Grog Shop and to table Copper Kettle until Novenlber 12, 1984; seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion carried. -2 Councilwoman Walls moved to adjourn at 9. 5 p.m.; seconded by Councilman Blomquist. All in favor, motion carried. Kath~h, City Cler~k--~'