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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19860624ROLL CALL: Georgeann Waggaman, Mary Martin,Charles Cunniffe, Mona Frost, Marge Riley, Bill Poss, staff, Steve Burstein, Nick Pasquarella,Zoe Compton, Pat O'Bryan excused. OLD BUSINESS; FINAL REVIEW PUBLIC HEARING POPCORN WAGON RELOCATION SW CORNER OF HYMAN AND MILL STREET~ LIL LIVELY AND DAN ARROW /d~-j~f/~ Arrow said that the drawing of the preliminary hearing were actrute but these are in final form. The placement of the trash dumpster. ~ d~~ /~t r e~e s~, The applicant will be add~ some lan large · ' next to the building,~ glow, and ~~Lr~me low bushes,but will not obstruct the windows at Waterfall and Hope. The front of the wagon, will have planters on Hyman Street, the planters will have bushy flowers. =~howing the pictures of the local dumpster that is over flowing, stating that the applicant will have there own dumpster,that will not be visible from the street or the mall. But th~ applicant will try to cover this dumpster or block its view better, this one is used by the Grill and the Wheeler Square building. The plan is to enclose the dumpster. Dan Arrow said that the only thing that has changes is the low planting area and the planting to cover the visual effect of the dumpster. Public Hearing opened; Burstein said that this case will go before P&Z tonight as a special review for restaurant use of open space, and reduction of ~__ rash ulitiles and service area requirements. The dumpster is one concern,after talking with all concerns parties ,it was decided to have a space enclosed 10 x20 ,and a 20 foot for the service excess,which will be larger than shown. It will have wooden doors and sit on a concrete pad for the dumpster. 1 MINUTES: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING JUNE 24,1986 The ulitlies hookup will be just below the ground, and there is a ulities box that is in a fake planter. Burstein said the planted area with the 2 foot high if it could also be wider,and if it was planted directly into the ground, it would provide a softer edge to the open space~Other words not have a planter but perhaps a raised brick edge. Cunniffee said with the urban effect planters to sit on edge, and helps space. they applicant does need the continue the chara~er of the Burstein said that would make it look rustic, rather than having the brick mall~ than the planter than more brick, this should be conoeved as open space. Lil Livey said that the bar crowd at two in the morning is not concern on walking on flowers and the planter will protect the plants a lot better. Howard Guther owner of the Grill is concern about the heat water,electic,sewer and other ulitlies of the building are taken care of before the Popcorn wagon goes in,(This issue of ulitlies ect.should be discussed with the building department~ ~~ ~ , Judy Hill local artist,is totally commited to having the Popcorn Wagon in this space, and the applicant has done a beautiful ~,cleanin? up this corner that has been an eye sore. lic Hearxng closed. Motion-Popcorn Wagon Final review-/-~¢ Mona Frost moved to accept the plans as presented,seconded by Mary Martin, Poss, accepts the motion hut agrees with burstein and likes the planter wall idea but there was no set width given, but that a planter should be able to maintain plants, and believes that the planter should be at 2 feet wide instead of one foot. Cunniffee wants the ulitilies address at P&Z when the admend is made. 2 MI NUTES: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING JUNE 24,1986 Applicant said it will be one foot of dirt wide, and the width of two bricks Bill Poss moves to admend Mona Frost Motion to have the planter be 30 inches wide or mimumin planter width dirt be of 18 inches,Marge Riley seconds amendment, all in favor, amendement carries. Mona Frost accepts Bill Poss admendment to her motion,vote call, all in favor of motion with admendment,motion carried. Mary Martin said that it was a nice presentation for the record. NEW BUSINESS: PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF BUS SHELTER IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY Bruce Abel,RFTA, did request for bids, and the photo's shown the members are the shelter that the RFTA selected for the community the library is a high prioity for placement of one of the shelters, and asking this board ,There are 28 location around the town, there are a. list is of 10 placements,this is the only one in the historic district, this type of shelter will not be placed at Rubey Park , but another type will be there hopefully by next year. It will be about 5 by 9 on a concrete slab. Waggaman said she felt that the bus shelter was rather urban effect. Bruce Abel said that the RFTA board felt this shelter was one that let you see through it,no structure is invisible, and they flet that this would be at least impact on the street scape. aluminum and glass. Cunniffe said that he felt it was quite bus shelter,even though it is alumunim. Abel said that the shelter will be able to have a photo cell light that will or will not be hooked up, CCLC asked that conduit be placed and to be able to hook up when the lighting project does Main Street. MINUTES: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING JUNE 24,1986 The shelter will hold 12 or15 people and about 5 people seated. Bill Poss said he feels there is a need for a bus shelter,but that it is historical incorrect,especially in the historic district. It is urban, it does mean the shelter has to look victorian, this solution does not fit in with Aspen. Cunniffee said he would like to see something contemporary,but not so urban. There is probably prefab available that would be more comaptible. MOTION BUS SHELTERS Mary Martin Moved to table this item till the applicant RFTA brings another example of shelters to HPC seconds Marge Riley, discusssion: The installation of these shelters are to begin in two weeks,outside of historic district,Bruce Abel stated. Georgeann Waggaman said that it will look funny to see these urban shelters around town and a different one in the historic district. The RFTA asked the City for guidest through the boards, but somewhere along the way things did not get done,and it was noticed a couple of weeks ago, to start the approvals process. This item will go to a Public Hearing. Waggaman said that HPC should send a strong letter to City Council on the shelters,outside the district, and how this was handled. Amended Motion That this item be tabled till the Public Heraring, Marge Riley second,all in favor, amendment carries. Call for vote on motion, all in favor, motion carried. PRELIMINARY REVIEW AWNINGS FOR THE SHAFT AND FATHER GILLS: Marl Muer from the shaft, George O'dier Fathergills and Gary Reed from the awning company. Mary Martin said that she would like to see a white or beige MINUTES: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING JUNE 24,1986 awning with maroon lettering, than a maroon which will fade so easliy. The applicant said that they could work with the beige awning color. Steve Burstein,said he has a problem with the pitch of the roof,and the way the awning looks like it will attach to the roof. Poss said that could be handle with some flushing out anf flashing over it.the awning are a good idea,but will they fit in with the architecture of that building know it is going to look like those awnings are plaster on the metal ,mansford roof. Gary Reed said that the design of the building and the slope of the roof, gives a problem with putting awning on their,as per code the awning can only come down another 6 inches with the frame because of the roof comming down so far. Waggaman said she felt it would look funny with the awning and then the mansford roof right there,especially underneath. Maybe Martin idea of the card board would be a good idea here,and would give the effect with out the cost involved. The members felt the awning would be better without the shirt at all. Perhaps the awnings like the Esprit has would be effective here and if the applicant was not going to use the awnings in the winter it could work. Waggaman said that the board has given direction that the applicant and awning company can use as to this building,and what might work better. The idea of a lighter fabric color should be next meeting. Also a site visit to the building this board. used also at the should be made by PRELIMINARY REVIEW-AWNINGS ASPEN BLOCK BUILDING-HYMAN ST.SIDE Ralph Floyd presenting for Don Siegle,there is awnings place on the Galena side already, 5 MINUTES: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING JUNE 24,1986 showing the board pictures, and stating the three reasons, The architecture of the building, has a cornest,a ledge above the windows, and in the past,snow collects there then falls onto the sidewalk. A awning would omit this problem. The appearaance of the building, that a awning adds to the appearance of the building, and consistant. There has been retractable awnings there from the look of the pictures, and the awnings on the East side will not change. The windows on the north side will be like the east side awnings. Charles Cunniffe said that the Ute City Banque has not completed the plan as stated before HPC by Don Siegle for awnings,and this should be complete,Floyd said he can asked Siegel about the Ute Building but he does not know anything about that approval. MOTION_AWNINGS ASPEN BLOCK BUILDING NORTH SIDE Bill Poss moves to approve the awnings on the north side of the Aspen Block Building as presented,second Mary Martin,all in favor, Motion carried. Meeting adjourn. work session; Historic preservattion plan elements: Historic district developement guidelines National registry program 6