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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19850212 RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Regular Meetin~ Historic Preservation Comanission February 12 ~198~ Chairman Georgeann Waggaman called the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m. with members Mona Frost, Pat O'Bryan, Connie McCrudden, Nick Pasquarella, M~rge Riley, Gretchen Greenwood, and Richard Cicero present. PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF ADDITION TO THE ASPEN GROVE BUILDING - Heidi Hoffman, Hagman & Yaw, told the Co~mission Aspen Grove (location of Wienerstube) is planning to add 286 square feet which is within the FAR and open space limitsl Ms. Hoffman said the addition will be 10 feet along the Cooper Avenue frontage, 12 feet in height, addition of a wood deck with planters. Ms. Hoffman said the intent of the addition is to draw people into the court- yard back into the retail spaces. The building will remain essentially the same with some new windows, entry door. The space that is the Wienerstube will be divided into three retails spaces. MS. Hoffman said with the addition, the Aspen Grove building will meet the 25 percent open space requirement. The courtyard plan will have a different circulation plan and will continue the tradition of flowers. Pasquarella asked if this plan will result in the loss of any trees. Ms. Hoffman said some of the Aspen trees will be lost, the big blue spruce will be moved. MS. McCrudden asked what the materials will be. Ms. Hoffman said they are using brick. Ms. Hoffman said the Aspen trees will be relocated when possible and the Spruce will be donated to the city for the mall Christmas trees. Ms. Waggaman said this item has to go to public hearing and suggested in the interim that the Board members make a site visit. Mrs. Frost said the plan looks like it balances with the east side of the building. Mrs. Frost moved to give preliminary approval. Motion DIES for lack of a second. Colette Penne, planning office, said it is up to the HPC whether this should go to a public hearing or not. It does have to go to P & Z. Ms. Waggaman said she feels because of the bulk of this addition, it should have a public hearing. Ms. Greenwood said she would like to see the pavers as part of the final approval. Ms. Penne pointed out the way the courtyard is designed now, the only people that use it are going into the Wienerstube. This change may have people using the open space. Cicero agree the public should have an opportunity to discuss this change. Ms. Waggaman asked the applicant to address the pavers, talk to the architect for the Independence building about the transition between the two buildings. Mrs. Frost moved to accept preliminary design of the Aspen Grove building with the strong recommendation to move and preserve every tree possible and request further study of the pavers; seconded by Ms. McCrudden. Ail in favor with the exception of Pasquarella. Motion carried. Pasquarella'said he is opposed to giving up any open space. PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF FACADE RENOVATION OF INDEPENDSNCE BUILDING 501 E. COO~ Stan Mathis, architect for the project, told the Co~unission he met with the state historic society on this proposed change. Mathis showed the entrances to Crossroads on the corner and on Galena street. There is an awning covering the entrances into the basement. The plans are to renovate the second and third floor into a nice lodge. An entrance and lobby are needed. Mathis proposes going down a half level off Galena street with a new glass facade, into a foyer, down the stairs and into the lobby which is the basement. Mathis said the entrance will be next to the existing entry on Galena street, will be the same dimensions, replicate the steel columns, same window motif. Mathis said they plan to take off the canopy and repairing the brick. Mathis told HPC there has never been anything on the blank brick facade along Galena street. Mathis said the state does not feel this change will be a detriment to the building. Regular Meeting Historic Preservation Conu~ission February 12, 1985 Mathi$ showed the existing stone column and told the Commission they can get stone lintels in Lyons, Colorado, to replicate the grocery store entrance. The entrance will be four feet inside the building. The entire building will be upgraded, the alley will be cleaned up, the brick will be repointed. Mathis said the building has had a structural analysis; it is in fine shape and can handle this change. The plumbing and electric will be upgraded. The Board discussed some design changes and said the rear glass should be as in Victorian as possible. Mathis said the recess is designed because the building already encroaches on city property, and does not want to encroach anymore on city property. Ms. Waggaman said Mathis did a nice job picking up the window detail; she is not uncomfortable with the recess. Ms. Waggaman said she would like to see this handled as originally as possible. Mathis said he will take this into consideration. Mathis told the Commission the project will come back with a exterior lighting plan. The Commission discussed what happened to the Epicure building and how to prevent that from happening here. The Commission asked if they could require posting of a bond, or phased construc- tion. Mathis pointed out this construction is going to be done very quickly because of the disruption to Crossroads Drug store. Ms. Penne said new legislation would be required. Ms. Waggaman opened the public hearing. This will be continued to another meeting. Ms. Waggaman requested Mathis address pavers and any interaction with the building next door. Pasquarella moved to give the Independence building project preliminary approval; seconded by Mrs. Frost. All in favor, motion carried. VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL - Chuck Cole, representing the Roaring Fork Vietnam Veterans, said their goal is to establish a local memorial as a tribute to Vietnam Veterans in the Roaring Fork Valley. Cole said they looked at several sites in the valley and decided on Aspen. The Veteran approached the Board of County Con~aissioners, who were pleased at having the memorial at the Courthouse. Because the Courthouse is an historic building, the BOCC asked for feedback from the HPC. The Commissioners have granted the veterans 100 square foot area on the southeast corner of the Courthouse facing Main street, opposite Soldier's monument on the southwest corner. Cole said the veterans propose to hold a state-wide art competition, raise money, and grant a commission to an artist selected. Cole said the HPC should be involved in the development of the criteria for this sculpture. Cole read the criteria to the Board developed by the Veterans. The veterans have decided this should be a sculpture, to reflect sensitivity to the site, should be contemporaneous, highly artistic quality, an expression of appreciation to living Vietnam Veterans, accessible to citizens in all seasons be able to endure weather conditions, and be maintenance free to the extent possible. The sculpture should be designed so as not easily vandalized, the sculpture should be within 100 square feet, the height should be approximately to the existing monument. Ms. Waggaman suggested the scale and bulk of the sculpture should be in keeping with' the old one. Pasquarella said the existing monuments represents all veterans of all wars of the United States. Pasquarella questioned having a separate monument for the Vietnam war. Pasquarella said he would like to see this on paper before any approval. MS. Greenwood suggested having a member of HPC on the selection staff. Cole said the veterans have been in contact with the Colorado Council on the Arts and Humanities, who have given the veterans a pre-arranged program to obtain public art. The competition will involve CCAH and Colorado Arts Registry. The veterans intend to advertise this project; people will apply at CAR. A group of 3 qualified artists, selected by the veterans, will go through the applications. This group will pick out about 10 applications, which will be submitted to a jury of 7 people from the community. The jury will then select 3 finalists who will then visit the site, prepare a narrative and site specific artwork. RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Regular Meetin~ Historic Preservation Co~Lmission February 12~ 1985 --3-- The model will be brought back to the jury, who will make a final selection. Ms. Waggaman suggested photographs of the existing statue and Courthouse should be sent out initially. Ms. Penne said the HPC should not be chosing a piece of artwork; this is an expression of the Vietnam Veterans. The HPC does have to address the interface of this artwork with an historic building. Ms. Penne said she has a problem with this sculpture sitting on the Courthouse corner. The Courthouse is an old structure and there are already two sculptures on the area. Ms. Penne suggested using the park to the east of the Courthouse or in the area behind the Courthouse which is landscaped. Ms. Penne said a location should be chosen and then let the veterans go ahead with the contest for the sculpture, rather than having the location dependent upon what the HPC thinks of the sculpture. That could waste a lot of time and money. Ms. Penne said there is too much going on in the Courthous space. This sculpture should stand on its own. Cole said they feel the sculpture will add to the Courthouse site. The BOCC suggested this particular site. Cole said they are not interested in moving east into the park. The veterans would be willing to add size, shape, color into the criteria. Cole said the veterans feel this site meets all their requirements. Ms. Greenwood suggested that the HPC meet with the County Commissioners to get their input. Cole agreed a meeting between HPC, Commissioners and the veterans should be scheduled. Marge Riley asked how this would be funded. Cole said through the state of Colorado. Mrs. Frost objected to this being a sculpture to "living Vietnam veterans" as there are some from the valley who died in that war. Mrs. Frost said she would rather see it be to all Vietnam veterans. Cole pointed out there is a monument in Washington D.C. for the veterans killed in Vietnam. Ms. Waggaman said she is opposed to the monument on the proposed spot because it will have such an impact on the Courthouse. Ms. Waggaman said this would spoil the integrity. Pasquarella moved to shelf all facets of this discussion until another meetin? in order to meet with the county officials; seconded by Mrs. Frost. All in favor, motion carried. Cicero said he liked the idea of a monument but would rather see it as the centerpiece to the park to the east of the Courthouse. MS. Waggaman said the Commission needs to address if (a) they want a sculpture on the grounds, (b) in what location (c) contemporary or (d) traditional. Pat O'Bryan said the corner of the Courthouse is all right with her. Cicero said he would rather see it someplace else. Ms. Riley agreed with someplace else. Ms. McCrudden does not object to the corner location, if it is traditional. Ms. McCrudden said she feels the sculpture would get more attention in the park east of the~Courthouse. Cole said the County may have some plans for the park that would preclude the sculpture there. Ms. Greenwood said she would rather see it in the park; if it is on the corner, the sculpture will conflict with the Courthouse. Mrs. Frost said she would like it on the southeast corner of the Courthouse property, the sa~( distance and proportion as the other monument. Pasquarella objected to this being a counter-balance to the existing war memorial. The Commission requested communication with the BOCC they are concerned about the location of this memorial. Ms. Greenwood moved not to accept the site proposed for the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on the southeast corner of the Courthouse until further information becomes available; seconded by Pasquarella. All in favor, with the exception of Ms. O'Bryan. Motion carried. Regular Meeting Historic Preservation Commission February 12, 198~ Ms. Penne told the Commission the Chitwood (Epicure) building will be redone, the applicant had wanted to be on this agenda but did not appear. This will be rescheduled. Ms. Penne told the Commission that the street department will make "Centre street" signs as soon as possible. This will be at the intersection on Main street. Ms. Penne read to the commission tha~ the Brand building (the Hyman building) has been accepted on the National Historic Register. Pasquarella moved to adjourn at 2:45 p.m.; seconded by Ms. Greenwood. Ail in favor, motion carried. Kathryn $. Koch, City Clerk