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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19831018RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Historic Preservation Committee regular meeting ~ I~, 1983 The Historic Preservation Committee held its regular meeting on October 18, 1983 in the City Manager's office. Present were chairperson, Georgeann Waggman, Terry End, Nick Pasquarella, Connie Mc Crudden, Mona Frost, Colette Penne, and Bill Dreuding. Gretchen Greenwood will be asbence form October -November 16th. Richard Cicero also attended the meeting. The meeting was opened by Georegann Waggman; The Aspen First item of new business was the conceptual review of an addition to the Aspen, formally the Applejack Inn,by Russ Pielstick, Russ said they would like to put in three units which are seperated from the remodel of the Applejack, that HPC saw a few weeks ago, the structure will be free standing and elevated over the exisiting parking area, the material and colors will be that the HPC has already approved for the main structure, the new structure will be solor heated; the one material that will be added to the ones HPC members saw before will be that of alucobond, this is an material that can take the constact inpacts from the auto antennas and remain attrative, the color is a buff, showning the members a sample of the material. Colette Penne said that this addition will be in the S.E. corner of the site,. Geergeann Waggaman said that this was so modern, and supposely will not see the pedistalatall from the street with the six foot fence, visually; Gergeann Waggaman asked if the material will be the stone, Bill Drueding said that this does have to go through the GMP process; Asked about the bronze glass, yes, with solor curtains, they lose some of the benefits by using the bro glass ,but it softens, the inside you would not see any color at all, only from the outside would you see any color, tinted but not reflective in bronze, the cutains behind the glass when down, will be a big flat panel in each of these sections. Colette Penne asked how far is it from the new structure to the mai~ one, and Russ replied about 29 feet. Concept of the building has to have HPC approval before it can compete in the GMP, and the question the members should ask themselve~ is the sitting, and in the Historic District, should a building be set apart from 'the main one with stilts out at the other end of the parking lot, it doesn't seem like a good design solution, even though it matches the main structure thats find, and if the ma sing was up closer to the other structure, it would be much better, massing perportion and siteing are the main consideration. if you say okay to this with the stilts units, then HPC might at a lat~er time have to approve another on stilts. Georgeann Waggman said it was startling in the context of this community, but the stilts in this case, are and internal problem, the should be what people see from the street, sidewalks whatever, Georgeann said it would be much better i the members could see a rendering,in the winter time when the trees dont have there leaves, and see what kind of mass f there really is; Colette Penne said that a six foot fence is not going to hide that this project is on stilts, Bill Dreuding agreed, from the far lane of Main Street, Also Bill Drueding said that the fence can not be any higher than six feet at any point; and the parking structure can not be less than seven feet, Mona Frost said the improvements so far on the AppleJAck have really been improved, and the tree units here will not make that much differences; Colette Penne, postive, and I and said the changes in the Applejack are really think that it is going to lookreally good, Nick Pasquarella said that he felt that they were clutering the parking area up with the stilt effect. Bill Dreuding said that the cover or stilt effect is being counted as floor area ratial A rendering is definitly need at lease to the dramatic stage, ~erry End said she did like the design, but the solution for the visual impact on Main Street she was not sure of; Connie McCruuden said she felt the applejack is such and improvement and doesn't see problems with the units being seperate , with its own walls will not be so massive. 14 1/2 feet between the main Building and this one, Russ said he had taken the face of the buidling for the 29 foot measurement; Connie Mc Crudden said ~ith land s ping will not be such a problem. Bill Drueding said that fence because is a corner lot, has to drop down to 42 inches. Terry End said that this will have to be looked at some more Colette Penne said before they go the expense of rendering and soforth, the FAR question should be answered. The facade changes for Mc D6nalds: Jim Clark Continued RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Mc Donalds Bring forth plans to show the members, the front and side elevations will remain the same on the first floor area, in the brick,the only thing they attend to do is to clean up the brick, then on the upper floor the existing windows that there is presently open it visually for the view of the slopes; The trim presently up on the facial board is black, and would change to natural cedar, and the stucco is in blue, which would be changed to white, and the trim on the windows, the new windows would be matching the lower cedar; There will be an additional wall brick screen, to match the existing b~ick, at the alley to screen the trash, and ab screen to match the stucco wall ajoining the flat roof area of the Pitkin Dry Goods, at the alley to hide the mechanical equipment. Georgeann Waggman said with that much glass in there it will be hot, will there be a special kind of glass in there? They plan to put solar glass in that will be clear, not solar but insulated glass Jim Clark said. There will be dining up stairs, and a kitchen and some dining down stairs; The counter will be on the first floor. Jim Clark went on to say that they know they are over the sign limit as of now, and will talk to Bill Drueding about that. Bill Drueding reminded them that the large M will not be premitted, that the largest letter can be 18" high, the signs will be on the windows, Feed back from the committee: Richard Cicero, so long as the signs are approiate size, Discussion continued. Mona Frost moved to approve the changes for 406 S. Mill for Mc Donalds ~r the proposed exterior elevations and signs subject to the sign~code, Connie Mc Crudden seconded, all in favor, motion carried. Aspen Laundry Aspen~undry and Dry Cleaners- Russ Pielstick the owner wants to go to brick, real brick, like the Ajax Mountain Building, Richard Cicero moved to approve the choice of brick for the Aspen Laundry, comming back to the committee with the choice of trim color at a latter date, seconded by Mona Frost all in favor, motion carried. Colteete Penne asked the members if they wish for a site visit to 627 and 633 W. Main, they have been repainted. Also it was brought up the choice of brick on the Aspen Plaza Building, Meeting adjourned. RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Historic Preservation Committee regular meeting October 18, 1983 100 Leaves The Historic Preservation Committee met in the City Manager's office, present were acting chairperson, Terry End, Mona Frost, Nick pasquaretla, Connie McCrudden, Gretchen Greenwood, Richard Cicero, Colette Penne,and Bill Dreuding. The meeting was opened by Terry End. Nick Pasquarella moved to approve the minutes of September 13,1983 seconded by Mona Frost, all in favor, motion carried. Awnings Chefs d' Aspen First item of new business: Sally Mullen asking for approval of awnings for Le Chefs d' Aspen, over the front entrance at the corner of Copper and Hunter Street; The building is pink, with grey and charcoal trim, so the awning will be a charcoal with the trim being a dark hunter green as on the two signs with out signage on the awning, the canopy will be a dome type effect, with support comming from the building. Mona Frost moved to approve the choice of color and awning for the Chefs d' Aspen, seconded by Nick Pasquarella, all in favor, motion carried. Colette Penne said she would put the material for the case in her 2 files, since the HPC stamp was not at this meeting. Second Item: Color palette- 627 and 633 W. Main. 627 &633 W. Main Colors Review of the color palette for the victorni~ns at 627 and 633 W. Main by Kathy for Stan Mathis and Associates The colors for the 627 are not changing a lot, that is the brick house, and they would like to use Dersert Loam, Moohrock, and Golden Brown, all in the mustard range and earth tone , the bulk of the house will be the Moonrock, the top will be the lighter shade, and the facial will be the darker; Nick Pasquarella asked if he recalled right were not these two houses going to be joined by a deck in the back; Yes they will have and a joing deck, but it will be hard to see because of the fence. The choice of colors for the larger house on the corner lot, Laurel Blossom, Dewbeery,and Lavender Frost, this house is a frame one, and brought forth a lot of discussion as to the choice of colors, the members felt perhaps a light shade of grey could be used the , the members liked they colors of the blues on the palette, but the owners ruled those colors out as they choices; Richard Cicero moved to approve the choice of color for the brick house at 627 W Main in the mustard range colors, Nick Pasquarella seconded the motion, all in favor, motion carried; Gretchen Greenwood moved to approve the colors for the house at 633 W. Main in thegrey specium, lavendar frost, grey- cool light grey,for the main body of the house, and Dewberry and Laurel Blossom for the trim colors, approving these four colors, and which ever looks best on the house to use;Richard Cicero seconded the motion, all in favor,motion carried. Awnings Mason & Morse Building Canopy for the Mason and Morse Building, Bill Drueding said that no one had applied for a sign permit for the awnings at the Mason And Morse and would like the memebrs to take site visit over there for he could get there opinion on them, The canopy is for the sun protection .... the meeting was ajourned to the site, The members approve the awnings for the M~son and Morse Building, with out the signage on the awnings. Motion Carried. Meeting ajourned.