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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19800722Aspen Historic Preservation Committee July 22, 1980 .......... .,~.,,.,.~¢o.,o~.,,~. RECORD OF PROC EE DIN GS The Aspen Historic Preservation Committee held a regular metting on July 22, 1980 at 1:00 p.m. in the Mayor's Conference Chambers. Members present were Jon Seigle, Terry End, Richard Cicero, William Clark, Florence Glidden and Marjorie.Ba~enner. Planning §taff representative, Sunny Vann, was also present. APPROVAL 0E MINUTES Terry End noted that on page 4, paragraph 7, someone else must have said what she was given credit for. Marjorie then made a motion to approve the minutes and Terry seconded it. Ail in favor, motion carried. OLD BUSINESS Lydia Outdoor Clothing Company Sunny reminded the committee they had approved an awning to be used during inelement weather subsequent to conditions that it only be used during inclement weather. They were coming back for approval of a new awning which they would like to leave up during the hot part of the day and possibly for most of the summer because this new awning would take 45!iminutes to put up and take down. They said the new color of the awn- ing was turqn~is. The problem with the old awning was that it sagged across the center of the awning. He said the new awning was 14' by 19' and flat. It is the exact same dimensions as the old awning. William thought that if it was alright to leave the awning up for twelve hours then it was alright to leave it up for twenty-four hours. Terry made a motion that the awning be left up as proposed by the applicant. Marjorie seconded the motion. Ail in favor, motion carried. Aspen Block - Revisions to Final Approval Sunny said the committee had approved revisions to the building but since there were some changes made on the entrances he had asked Andrew Dracopoli to come back for approval. He showed plans which had been revised so that the entries, which were originally recessed, would now be flush with the stone columns of the build- ing. This would be in line with the original appearance of the building. They had done research on the code and found they did not have to have doors which opened out- wards, which necessitated the recession of the doors. Marjorie noted that Andrew wanted HPC to approve the plans to be more historical than originally. All members agreed the new plans were better. William made a motion to approve the new plans, Marjorie seconded it. Ail in favor, motion carried. PROJECT REVIEW Mill Street Station - Preapplication Review A model of the proposal was brought to the meeting. Tim Hagman re-explained the proposal for those members who were not at the last meeting. He stated that some employee housing units had been added. William glark asked the approximate size of the units and Tim said they were 428 square feet. Sunny said the inclusion of the employee units was to increase their competitive- ness for the GMP. Tim said the awnings were fabric when William asked about them. He saidthey planned to replace the awnings whenever they needed it because they were part of the look and the building would lose part of the softening effect without them. William noted that with a succession of owners they would tend to let those things slide and asked whether there was some other way to soften the facade. Tim thought anything permanent would make it look too rigid. When asked how long most awnings last he said he really didn't have the answer but some used on inflatable structures last up to 18 years. - 2 - RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Tony Mazoa then said that in order for commercial busi- nesses to pay the rents which would make this project work, the building would have to be attractive. Therefore: the awnings would need to be there or else the building would not be attractive and no businesses would want to rent space there. William was concerned about the busy appearance of the building with all of the awnings, especially in the back section. He was also concerned about the permanence of the awnings. Marjorie said the awnings and "business" did not bother her. Tim said the awnings also helped give the building a covered walkway. Tony said they were addressing Gaard's comment about the factory look of the building. Sunny noted the awnings separated each commercial space. At this point there was discussion on the GMP and it was noted that with bonus GMP there is the possibility that all buildings proposed this year could be accepted at the discretion of the council. Marjorie asked if the proposal was the same size as what is there now and Tim said it was actually a little larger. At this point there was some hesitancy about making a motion and most of the members expressed that they had not had enough time to look over the model. William Clark then moved for preliminary approval just to get it on the table so the developers would not have to wait another year. It was suggested here that the developers also come back to the first meeting in August with the model so they could could get some additional feedback from the committee members. Some conditions were added to the motion. Approval would be conditional on the materials and the landscaping. Marjorie seconded the motion. Ail in favor, motion approved. Park Place Develop- ment - Preapplication Review Sunny gave the information that this was also an applicant for GMC and that it was located on Cooper Street Mall between Guido's and Aspen Leaf. It is where the Ski Corp parking is. Don Fleisher explained that the project was owned by his brother, Randy Woods and himself. The purpose of the project is to house their two stores, the Unicorn Bookstore and Pitkin County Dry Goods. He pre- sented some drawings and discussed the letter which accompanyed the packet. They were trying to create a strong entry design. The idea of breaking the brick parapet wall above was chosen to help separate the two stores. There was also some employee housing added to the building. Don said the building sits lower than both the Aspen Leaf and Guido's. The space between Guido'e and the proposed structure was for Guido to dump his snow off the roof in the winter. Sunny then said there were a couple of things which did not appear in the plans. There are two view planes which cross the property, the Wheeler Opera House and Wagner Park. They serve to restrict the height to below that which is normally allowed within the CC Zone. Therefore they are going to have to go through the PUD process along with GM? approval. They also have an open space requirement within the CC zone. They are proposingto trade the open space requirement for employee housing. Sunny said the Planning office has indicated they would be willing to consider this as part of the PUD process although there is no guarentee that P&Z and Council would also approve this. They are also considering a slight variance from - 3 - RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS The Paragon Constance Fisher Skylights COMMITTEE COMMENTS the view plane requ±rement. Sunny said at this time they were not sure exactly how much intrusiQn there would be but it would be minor. Jon Seigle then said he did not like the break in the front facade. Don said he had shown the two alternatives to a lot of people and almost all of them said they liked the one with the break in the wall. Jon then asked to see the alternate plan. Terry said she liked the idea of the continuation (alternate plan) much better. Sunny said Don was trying to break up the long horizontal band. Don said he wanted to indicate in the design that there were two stores. He wanted to enhance the entry area. Sunn~ then told the committee that unless Don was granted preliminary approval today he would not be able to apply for the GMP by September 1. An alternative would be that a special meeting be held before the deadline where Don could come back again for consideration of approval. Jon said he felt the Board should not be pressured to do something they would not ordinarily do because of the deadline. He said Mr. Fleisher knew about the deadline and it was up to him to meet it. gon said he felt that Don was coming before the committee today for an informal discussion and it was too premature to give preliminary approval. It was decided at this point that Don would set up a special meeting himself by calling all of the members and finding a time which would be agreeable to all and also in time to publish for a public hearing. The owner of the Paragon came before the committee to see if he could put an exhaust pipe by the back entrance to the building. Jon said he could see nothing wrong with it as long as the pipe was painted to match the brick of the building. Marjorie made a move to approve the pipe and William seconded it. Ail in favor; motion approved. Constance Fisher brought some pictures of the Herron Apartments and told the committee she would like to put in two skylights, one on each side of the dormer. She also brought a brochure of the type of skylight she was going to put in. She said they were called roof windows and they were flat with the roof. She said they would be seen from the alley side. William made a motion to approve, Marjorie seconded it. Ail in favor; motion approved. Sunny told the committe that Council did approve a temp- orary moratorium on the Main Street historic district. Jon made a suggestion that the committee get a better summary in the packets of each case which comes before the Board so they would be a little more prepared when they came to the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 2:45 PM.