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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19800513RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Historic Preservation Committee May 13, 1980 City Council Chambers The Aspen Historic Preservation Committee held a regular meeting on May 13, 1980, at 1:00 PM in City Council Chambers. Members present were Gaard Moses, Terry End, Georgeann Waggaman, and Florence Glidden. Planning staff represent- ative, Sunny Vann, was also present. APPROVAL OF MINUTES NEW BUSINESS Oasis Petro Energy Corp. Main and Galena St. Final Approval 617 West Main City Hall Roof Renovation Public Hearine and Final ADproval Gaard Moses, vice chairman, conducted the meeting in Jon Seigle's absence. Florence Glidden moved to approve the minutes of April 22, 1980. Seconded by Georgeann Waggaman; all in favor, motion carried. Sunny Vann introduced the case stating that the Oasis Station was scheduled to come before HPC for review because they want to install a flagpole at the corner of Main and Galena Streets. However, Sunny determined that their request is not consistent with the City's sign code requirements and is therefore an improper ap- plication at present. He said that until application is submitted to the Building Department that is consistent with the sign code regulations, they (Bldg. Dept.) will not issue a sign permit, and cannot issue one before the case comes before HPC and is approved. Issue is dead for the time being. The item was tabled until the next HPC meeting. Sunny did present information from the City Council meeting that was held on May 12 concerning the property. Tom Sommers, owner of the property had approached City Countil offering to give the original structure to the City. City Council thought that it would be cheaper to duplicate the facade than to renovate and move the present structure to another location. Sunny said that their decision sets a precedence for removing any struc- ture along the Main Street corridor. He also discussed the relation that parking has to restoring or building new buildings along Main Street. Basically what is and has oecured is that new buildings or renovations are built with maximum FAR because it is more economical; most then do not meet the parking requirements for a building of that scale. So the people then petition P & Z for a reduction of the parking requirement. Jay Hammond of the Engineering Department and Sheree Sonfield of the Finance Department ga~e the_presentation for the re-roofing of City Hall. Sheree began by stating that she had spoken with the Colorado Historical Society who said they would not finance the renovation for two reasons: 1) cost, 2) the historical appropriateness of the Perma-Seam Metal Roofing. They felt that there was never a stand- ing seam roof so why should one be installed now. In Sheree's opinion, after talking with Jay and Welton An- derson, an architect, the standing seam is most appro- priate because of its dull color, matte finish, and durability. But the Historical Society said they wanted it to be either a wood shingle roof or a corregated metal roof. Terry asked if they would fund a corregated metal roof. Jay said yes, they would fund one-half the cost of the corregated metal. He added, "If we wanted to do a standing seam roof, we would only get one-half of the cost of doing it in the oorregated metal (not one-half -2- Gargoyle Building Sorensen's Danish Antiks 734 W. Main the cost of the standing seam roof.) Their reasoning for wanting corregated metal is that it is presently on the north side of the roof, therefore it is histor- ically appropriate." However, Sheree had spoken with the Historical Society more recently and found out that they had decided not to fund any of the project. They may reconsider if the request is resubmitted for a corregated metal roof; the funding would not be guaranteed even at that. Sunny asked if the City is prepared to go ahead, re- gardless of funding from the Historical Society. Sheree said they probably would. Gaard asked again for a price quote. Sheree said the standing seam roof would be between $50,000-60,000, the corregated metal roof being $40,000-45,000. Jay said they won't even consider a wood shingle roof because of the fire hazard, deter- ioration, and that it is even more expensive than the other two considerations. Sunny then asked if there was a preference for corre- gated metal vs. the standing seam as far as its func- tion. Jay said no, that they should both wear about the same. Gaard said that it was "safe to say that we (HPC) are not willing to take their (Colorado Historical S~r~' Society's) suggestions or their money." Sunny commented, "Since both, functionally, would be just as well, it boils down to whether you want to stick to the original character of the building and seek grant money from the State, or deviate slightly from the historic roof, and choose something else. Sheree brought up the fact that City Hall has been placed on the National Register of Historic buildings mn the 1970's. Gaard questioned Jay about gutters. Jay said that in their design decisions and plans they were staying away from the gutters because it would create a water drain- age problem at one or both ends of the buildings, and when it snowed, it would not allow for natural melting and would probably cause a snow and ice build-up and eventually damage the gutters. Gaard opened the public hearing; no comments from the public. Hearing closed. Committee comments opened and Sunny said the Committee could approve the re-roof- ing subject to bring back the working drawings. Terry End moved to approve the proposed City Hall re- roofing as submitted with a standing seam roof. Flor- ence Glidden seconded the motion. Gaard added that if there were any major changes, that Jay would come back to the HPC for approval. Ail in favor, motion carried. Terry made the motion to add the Gargoyle Building to the end of the agenda. Florence seconded the motion; all in favor; motion carried. Sunny briefly introduced the subject stating that at the last HPC meeting, Wayne Schimpf, builder for the remodeling project, had presented plans for enclosing the porch. -3- RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Historic Preservation Committee May 13, 1980 City Council ~ambers Ute City Banque 801 East Hyman Ave. Prospector Lodge 301 E. Hyman Ave. Present at this meeting was architect Welton Anderson who gave the revised working drawings to HPC. He stated that the basic changes were that the porch was extended 7 feet to the east and 3~ feet to the south. At the same time, approximately 550 square feet are being enclosed in the building. A "porchlet" (approx- imately 3~ feet in width) is left on the east and south sides. Welton said the required parking are in the back (north side) was not decreased. Terry made the motion to give pre-application and final approval to Sorensen's Danish Antiks as presented. Florence seconded the motion. Ail in favor; motion carried. Jerry Michaels, owner of Ute City Banque, requested from HPC and Dave Gibson, architect for Prospector Lodge renovation, if his case could be moved up on the agenda since it wouldn't take long. HPC and Gibson gave their approval. Mr. Michaels then requested that two pairs of bifolded windows be added at each of three openings along Galena Street. There would be four panes of glass at each existing large pane. No change to the stained glass above, or the columns alongside, or to the panels below. The windows wouls open inwardly. Patrick Hunter is the building contractor for the project. Gaard moved to pass the preapplication and give final approval to the plans as presented for the three bi- folded windows along Galena Street, maintaining the same "look" in the paint work. Terry seconded the motion. Ail in favor, motion carried. Plans were stamped for approval. Dave Gibson, architect, had been asked by HPC to return and present revised plans as well as a model of the proposed lodge. Dave explained to the Committee the main effect the new lodge would have on the City would be at the pedistrian level. A sidewalk extending around Monarch and Hyman Streets would be included in the plans. They are pre- serving and trimming the large trees so that people can walk under them. He said that, "The building occupies approximately the same envelope in terms of elevational frontage on both streets that the existing Prospector occupies." The basic changes in the plans are: 1) the entire build- ing has been lowered about 1-1~ feet, 2) the parking garage is 16~ feet below grade, 3) the stone facing on the stairway is 4 feet lower in regard to the roof than it was previously, 4) the roof is cut back to let the mass be set back from the street, 8) retaining the logo from the original Prospector Lodge (miner and pros- pector), 6) along the west side a recessed window bay, lichen rock facing and planters, timber treatment and two different board patterns have been added, 7) the 30 foot spruce tree that was going to be lost is now proposed to be transferred to another location as a screen on the south side of the lodge. The Committee reacted favorably to all the changes pre- sented. However, Gaard Moses still wanted a few more changes to the west wall but the Committee and Mr. Gibson convinced him that it was sufficient as proposed. -4- Aspen Block Corner of Hyman & Galena Gargoyle Building E. Hyman St. Gaard moved to recommend the approval of the preliminary plans as submitted of the Prospector Lodge subject to the approval of the design detail at a later date. Terry seconded the motion; all in favor, motion carried. Andrew Dracapoli, representing the owner of the ~spen Block, gave the presentation of the changes planned for the corner building. First, he showed the Committee drawings of the building as it was originally. He said that Brigitta's and Mason and Morse are or have vacated their premises by the end of this summer, and the owner wants to reno- vate the building to more of its original appearance. Planned changes include: 1) removing the existing block trash area located in the alley and replacing it with a new enclosure, 2) to remove two windows on the east elevation at Briggitta's and replace it with fixed glass matching the existing fixed glass on the east elevation, 3) to remove the window and inside planter at the center bay of Briggitt's; to provide a new re- cessed entry at this center bay and at the center bay where the bar entry is now located, 4) to create a new recessed corner entry at the 45-degree angle; new doors to match the existing doors. They are also plan- ning to re-do the landscaping in front of the building with the approval of the Engineering Department. This would include a new sidewalk and parking plan. Mr. Dracapoli said that they had applied to the Colorado Historical Society to be on the National Register of Historic Buildings. This would mean that they could possibly receive federal assistance to do some of the renovation. Specifically, removing existing steel beams and replacing with matching eolumns. However, this would be done at a later date and they would have to come back to the HPC for approval of this. Gaard made the motion to give pre-applicaiton and final approval of plans as presented. Many major changes (color, design, etc.) or deviating from the changes outlined in the letter from Thomas Wells & Associates (architects for the project)dated April 23, 1980, would be brought back to HPC for discussion and approval. Florence seconded the motion; all in favor, motion carried. Architect Stan Mathais from Robin Molny's office was having to return with revisions to their approved plan in the reconstruction of the Gargoyle building. The approval was given at a public hearing before the HPC on March 11. The changes he proposed were due to the current econ- omic conditions and that it would be financially diffi- cult to add the second floor at this time. However, the owners (Mason and Morse) do expect to add it when economic conditions improve, but in order to get a building permit now, they must show the plans of what they want to do at present which would just be as a one-story building. The building would have exactly the same facade using the same plans. Wendy Morse, owner of M & M, was also present and added his comments to the revision. He said that definitely the second story would be added at a later date. In fact, they are ordering all of the brick and mortar at one time so that it would match. -5- ...,,,,.o .... .,.,,,.,.~¢o.,o;..,;. RECORD O F PROC E EDI N GS Historic Preservation Committee May 13, 1980 City Council Chambers Sunny said that the original approval was predicated on the owners bringing the working drawings, color samples, awnings, and if the concrete block along the side was to be painted a color to match the brick to HPC for their approval. Gaard made the motion to pass the first stage of the construction amend the past application with the same criteria (i.e. external materials, colors, paint, etc.) and that they come before HPC for final approval. Georgeann Waggaman seconded the motion; all in favor, motion carried. Terry moved to adjourn the meeting, Georgeann seconded the motion. Ail in favor, meeting adjQ~rned at 3:00.