HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19800422RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Historic Preservation Committee
April 22, 1980
City Council Chamber~
The Aspen Historic Preservation Committee held a regular meeting on April 22,
1980, at 1:00 PM in City Council Chambers. Members present were Jon Seigle,
Gaard Moses, Terry End, Mona Frost, Richard Cicero, Bill Clark, Georgeann
Waggaman, Florence Glidden and Marjorie Brenner. Planning staff representative,
Sunny Vann, was also present.
INTRODUCTION OF NEW
MEMBERS
Jon Seigle introduced the new members who had been
eleeted by City Council. The new members are: Bill
Clark, Georgeann Waggaman, Florence Glidden and Marjori~
Brenner.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mona Frost corrected the spelling of "metal" on page 2,
and "eave" on pages 2 and 9 of the minutes of March
28. She then made the motion to approve the minutes as
corrected. Seconded by Bill Clark; all in favor, motioi
granted.
OLD BUSINESS
718 W. Main
Public Hearing
Sunny Vann restated the proposal for the remodeling and
expansion of the existing Victorian dwelling at 718 W.
Main and construction of new offices at that location.
Preliminary approval had been granted to the applicant
on March 25; Randy Wedum, the architect, had returned
for the public hearing and to present changes suggested
by the Committee at the last meeting.
Randy presented the Committee with corrected plans in-
dicating that he had added a turret to one corner of
the building making it more dominant. He had made this
change because of the feedback he had received at the
last meeting.
The Committee disagreed with Randy and said they had
not felt that this should be changed or a turret added.
Discussion followed concerning the trees and their sur-
vival if moved; and this led to questions about how muc~
bearing trees and shrubbery have or should have on the
approval or denial of a building design or plan. The
Committee was somewhat divided on their opinion of this.
Before any more comments were made, Randy said he was
before the HPC at this meeting for final approval of
the design and to decide upon which plan was most satis-
factory.
Jon Seigle opened the public hearing; no one was present
to make comments, therefore he closed the hearing to
the public and opened it to comments from the Committee
members.
MarJorie Brenner stated that she did not feel that land-
scaping should have any bearing on the approval or
denial of a building.
Jon refuted her statement saying that many applicants
did come before the HPC with renderings that included
certain landscaping plans and that the Committee had
conditioned their approval on what was represented on
paper.
Sunny interrupted the Committee's discussion saying he
felt that they should base their decision on the build-
ing alone, but that it could be included to enhance the
building with the landscaping.
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NEW BUSINESS
Log Cabin at
2nd and Main St.
PROJECT REVIEW
Prospector Lodge
301 E. Hyman Ave.
Preapplication Review
Mona Frost said that the future of the cottonwood trees
in front of this property should also be considered;
they are very old trees and likely not to live much
longer.
Georgeann Waggaman made a final comment that she pre-
ferred the flatter roof plan if Randy would incorporate
this into his final design.
Gaard Moses made the motion to approve the revised plans
conditioned upon the landscaping remaining as similar t¢
the rendering drawing as is possible. Mona seconded
the motion. Ail members in favor; motion granted.
Jon requested that Randy bring back the final working
drawings to be stamped for approval. They (HPC) and
the Planning Department will hold the present revised
working drawings until he comes back with the revisions
including the turrets, straighter roof and landscaping.
Sunny said that he had been contacted by appraisers in
town about the log cabin located at the corner of
2nd and Main. He stated that the appraisers were want-
ing a consensus from the HPC members as to whether they
would entertain a request to remove the structure.
Sunny provided some statistics concerning the cabin;
that it was built in approximately 1940 on three city
lots and that it was in the O-Office District. He said
that future possibilities were that it could be torn
down to become a single family home, a duplex, office
or small multi-family dwelling. It was not currently
historically designated. He asked for opinions from
the Committee members.
Mona said that regardless of whether the cabin remained
or not, she did want the two large fir trees to stay.
Gaard wanted the cabin to remain; if expanded to expand
it in the same medium (lop).
Georgeann asked if the present building could be shifte¢
forward on the lot and build another building behind it.
Sunny said that it was in such poor shape that it would
be difficult to move.
Before Jon makes any decisions, he wants the appraisers
to come before the HPC with more definite plans of what
could happen to the property and building.
Sunny stated that the HPC should not prevent its re-
moval depending upon the validity of what is proposed i~
its place. However, he would report to the appraisers
that the Committee was of mixed feelings about the
cabin and that they (the appraisers) should try to give
their best indication of its future.
Dave Gibson of Pielstick and Gibson architectural firm,
presented the Committee with elevations and photos of
what was being planned for the Prospector Lodge at
301 E. Hyman Ave.
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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Historic Preservation Committee April 22, 1980
City Council Chambers
Sorensen's Danish Antiks
734 W. Main
Preapplication Reveiw
Proposals for the new building included: the conversion
of the present 21 lodge rooms to 21 deluxe lodge rooms
increasing the floor area from approximately 350 sq. ft.
to 750 sq. ft.; the one employee unit now existing woul~
also be remodeled. These changes would increase all
the floor/living areas but decrease the open space. He
also proposed hot tubs on the roof and an underground
parking structure. Gibson also said they were consider-
ing using muted grey and brown with dark brown trim for
the new lodge. Ail the new plans were under the con-
dition that the present Prospector Lodge structure
would be removed.
Committee comments followed...Jon said he objected to
the hot tubs on the roof; Mona concurred with this
objection. Richard Cicero said he was objecting to the
height of the new building and the view plane. Bill
Clark asked Sunny if the HPC could approve something
that did exceed the view plane.
Sunny said that if the HPC did approve of the plans and
the view plane, that they were lending validity to
Gibson's request to exceed the view plane. Gibson
would then have their approval when he presented his
plans before P & Z and the PUD process; he said that
there was about an eight foot intrusion of the view
plane. Sunny said he would check to see if HPC did
have jurisdiction in this instance. Sunny still sug-
gested that the HPC give some sort of indication as to
their feeling of the design.
Jon said that, as presented, the building was too mas-
sive and wanted something designed that would lessen
this feeling. Bill Clark said he objected to the
continuous building line from the east side at the Masol
and Morse Building to the corner of Hyman and Monarch
Streets. Gaard asked that some other solution be deter.
mined for the west facing wall which was solid, and he
felt, too large. He suggested a window(s) perhaps.
Jon then suggested to Dave that he present another ~
solution, one that is less dense, one that breaks up
the solid west side wall, and to break it from the
Mason and Morse building.
Sunny gave a brief description of the location and the
requested change which is to enclose and extend the
porch located on the east side of the building facing
the parking lot.
Wayne Schimpf, builder for the remodeling project, hand.
ed out plans to the Committee to review the proposed
changes. He said that the extension would not change
the parking lot. The extension would mean an increase
of about 510-515 square feet display space on the
interior of the building. One other change would be
that the main entry would be moved from the side to the
front of the building.
Jon Seigle commented that he liked the porch as it is
and that it would destroy the character of the shop
to enclose it.
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COMMITTEE COMMENTS
Mona said that the present porch had been approved not
too long ago.
Discussion followed about altering the plan that Mr.
Schimpf brought to preserve some of the porch. It
was decided among the members that Mr. Schimpf try
to redesign his plans to include more porch. Jon said
that he could be on the May 13 meeting agenda to discus~
the plan.
Mona said she would not be at any of the May meetings.
Bill Clark also said that he would be out of town.
Mona moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Jon.
Ail in favor, meeting adjourned at 2:30.
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