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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19790626RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Aspen Historical Preservation Committee, Regular Meeting, June 26, 1979, City Council Chambers The Aspen Historical Preservation Committee held a regular meeting on June 26, 1979, at 1:00 PM in the City Council Chambers. The members present were Jon Seigle, Gaard Moses, Lary Groen, Norm Burns, and Terry End. Staff representative was Jim Reents. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Seigle presented the minutes to the committee on the June 19, 1979 meeting. Burns moved to approve the minutes as presented. Moses seconded. All on favor. Minutes were approved. AJAX MOUNTAIN ASSOCIATES: Ashley Anderson was present to represent his client. Anderson stated that they were there two weeks ago and that the comments were: 1) that the building was too busy, and 2) a bit much. In response to those comments they have come up with elimination of the extra detail work on the columns, broaden the columns, eliminated the extra glass work on the roof, and produced a simpler building. They have also eliminated the kioske. The materials for the building would be metal for the roof, and brick. Anderson showed the committee examples for it. Burns asked if they are approving a whole building or half of it? Reents stated that they should approve the whole building. Moses asked about their ideas about signage. Anderson stated that they have not gotten into anything like that yet. Moses stated that the committees attitude about signs is that they try to legislate them now before anything happens. Bill Syracuse, architect for Ajax Mountain Associates, stated that it was very difficult now to consider signs considering they do not know what will be there yet. Groen commented that the Aspen Grove Building handled the signs very effectively by having every place listed on their glass. Groen stated that in this town, signs are not very important unless the business is buried in the back. Groen also added that you never use a street address it is always in some building or next to some place; everyone knows where everything is. Moses stated that he had a strong feeling for the skylights that were on the first plans. Steve Marcus, owner of the proposed building, had a few things to say to the committee. Marcus stated that he understood the philosophy of the committee about keeping buildings low key but, this particular area which relates to North of Nell, Aspen Square, Durant Galena Building, which makes the proposed building a very special building. He felt that the corner is so special that it deserves a knock-out building, Marcus stated that it was time for something exciting for that corner. End commented on the fact that they would like to have a knock-out building for that corner. Seigle asked for the defination of "knock-out" considering ~oses like~ it but some others do not. Marcus asked them not to confine the taste this time but he would go along with what they want. Marcus stated that he liked the first plans on the proposed building. Groen agreed with Marcus in the fact that it was a special site. Groen stated that they have the potential for a great looking contemporary building. Groen felt that the proposed plan looked like a set of tinker toys. Burns stated that his main concern was the weight of the structure balance. Wider columns would eliminate some of this problem. On the second set of plans, the columns are wider but the verticle feeling is gone. MILL AND HOPKINS BUILDING: COMMITTEE COMMENTS: Seigle stated that he prefered the first set of plans. Seigle commented that he would not have known that if unless they saw the second plans. Moses asked what the width of the columns were in the first building plans. Syracuse stated that they were about a foot. End stated that she liked the first set of plans better without the kioske. Seigle stated that the concensus of the committee is that they would probably approve the first set of plans absent of the kioske. Seigle said that the columns did not bother him. Groen stated that what he liked about the second set of plans is that is does have a feeling of more weight to it. He felt that he would like to see something that was not as contemporary or relate to victorian scale. Burns stated that his main problem was the columns. Burns also has a problem with the 90° corner which is located next to La Tortue. Seigle stated that when they come up for their public hearing in two weeks, they would like to see the first set of plans with the kioske gone, and possibly wider columns. Reents stated that a carnival atmosphere might be more in character than not. He felt that there is more of a carnival atmosphere there now. The contractor for the Mill and Hopkins Building was present to discuss the proposed changes. End stated that the facade for the upstairs was lower than the original plans. Groen commented that they have added a glass door. The contractor stated that they have found out later that the parapets were not required as they had first thought. On the glass doors, they are required by the City of Aspen to have air lock entries to all entrances to the building. Seigle stated that he had no problems with the change in plans. Moses stated that it was fine with him. Groen made a motion to approve the change as presented. Burns seconded. Groen stated that he would prefer that the doors match the existing glass windows. Ail in favor. Change in plans approved. Groen asked Reents if he had found anything about the structure between the Wheeler Opera House and the Mother Lode. Reents stated that he had not considering several people were out of town. Groen made a motion to adjourn. Burns seconded. Ail in favor.