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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19790327~.~,~o~o,.~,,,,.,~.,,~ ~o., ,~,,~,~. R E C O R D O F P R O C E E D I N G S Historical Preservation Committee, March 27, 1979, City Council Chambers, Regular Meeting The Historical Preservation Committee held a regular meeting on March 27, 1979, in the City Council Chambers at 1:00. The members present were Jon Seigle, Lary Groen, Norm Burns, Jerry Michael, Terry End, and Mona Frost. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes from the February 20, 1979 meeting were presented to the committee. End moved to approve the minutes, Frost seconded. All in favor. The minutes were approved as presented. ADDED ITEM: Burns asked Seigle if he could place another item on the agenda. Burns stated that he had turned it in to the Building Inspector's office over a week ago and it concerns Groen's and his house. Seigle approved the added item. MILL AND HOPKINS BUILDING: This is a review of the substituted materials. Don Ball is the architect who was hired by Frank Woods and Tony Mazza. Ball stated that originally the building was going to have the precast concrete and they are having problems obtaining it. They would like to substitute a concrete masonry unit which is burnished instead of the precast. They would like to do this for the complete exterior of the building as well as the sunken courtyard. Originally the courtyard was designed to be in concrete which was to be sandblasted which would have matched the preposed prec~ast concrete. Ball stated that they would like to also do is to utilize glue laminated wood and hand rails which would introduce some warmth to the building. This would replace the brass. Ball stated that they would like to simplify the building by using a smaller scale. Ball stated that one of the potential functional problems that might exist, due to the south-west exposure, is extreme heat gain on the building. He would like to get a feeling from the HPC about installing an awning, which would be a single color. Groen asked where the awnings would be placed. Ball replied that they would be located at the window head and they would drop down depending on the angle of the sun. Groen asked what the window treatments be on the inside of the building. Ball stated that he did not know at this point Groen felt that it would take care of any heat problem that they might incur if they would have shades or something of that sort. Ball stated that the problem with taht is that the heat is actually in the building at that point. Seigle stated that they really did not have any objections to the awnings but the problem is that they can not approve them in the abstract. They would have to come hack and bring a sample of the material. Seigle stated that they will not give specific approval until they have something specific to present. Reents stated that there was some question as to which this was a major change in which they would have to under go Growth Management approval. Reents stated that he has talked it over with the City Attorney and he felt that this would fall under the exemption of modifications required for engineering for technical reasons. Inavailability of materials is definately a reason to change and it does not require a new Growth Management review. ARTHUR'S RESTAURANT: Michael asked Ball how big the blocks would be in inch scale. Ball stated that they are concrete masonry units which would be an 8"x8" pattern. Ball felt that it was also important that the matrix will be picked up in the color of the mortar. Groen asked Ball if the slate bands will still incorporated through the building like it was originally presented. Ball stated that the slate band was not showned on the drawing. Groen stated that it was important to know exactly what changes were made and what is approved. Groen said that it was difficult to recall without the drawing of the original plans. Ball stated that one thing with the horizontal band is that when you are changing materials, you are changing details. Things have to change with the nature of materials. Ball stated that the wooden handles would occur mainly at the garden level but also at upper level at this point. Ball would like the building to be light not dark. Ball felt that this material would be as close to the look of precast that you could get. Groen asked about the lighting on the rails. Ball stated that what they were thinking about is putting lighting into the masonry units. This would be low key lighting. The rest of the lighting on the building would be located at each bay and at the recessed areas. Ball stated that it was a very simple building that had nothing complicated about it. Ball stated that they would like to go more with a flush joint for more of the monolithic look. Groen asked if the glass would still be a clear glass. Ball replied that they would like to do a very light solar bronze glass. The reason for this would to help eliminate some of the heat problems. The total colors of the building would be the aluminum frame, the bronze glass, glue laminated wo6d, and the hand rails. Groen made a motion to approve the changes as presented. Frost seconded. All in favor. Motion granted. Reents stated that Burns mentioned a concern that he had regarding the expansion of Arthur's Restaurant. It would require a special review under conditional uses in the O-Office district. Welton Anderson is the architect representing David Moss the owner of Arthur's Restaurant. Reents made it clear the Anderson came in for a rap session to find out the feelings of the conunittee. Anderson stated that there are three basic problems with Arthur's as it stands now. .The first major problem is the trash service and parking problem. This expansion includes the existing Aspen Reservation Building would allow for a service loading dock area on the alley. The alley is vacated. This would provide an additional 10 parking spaces of the alley. The second problem is to provide an adequate kithen and storage area. The kithen at this time is occupied by 6 Chinese chefs and anywhere from 4-10 other people at one time. At the end of the season all the chefs end up in the hospital because they are driving each other nuts and then they cut each other up with the knives. Anderson stated that there was some question if a liquor license would ever be obtainable. All of the Aspen Reservation Building and a good portion of the proposed addition would be used for waiting space. Anderson stated that as the building moves up, the highest elements are furthest back from Main Street. RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Historical Preservation Committee, March 27, 1979, City Council Chambers, Regular Meeting page 2 LO COCINA: Seigle stated that he felt that the new proposed Arthur's Restaurant gives a Disneyland effect. They will have to go a long way to convince him to approve the design. Michael felt that they have a philisophical problem with massing. He felt that the board will have to make some concrete decisions about massing. Groen stated that the historic designation of Main Street was done to help preserve the existing Victorians structures. Zoning was modified to allow additional uses in those buildings to make them more commercially viable. Seigle stated that they had made some mistakes on hain Street and this would be there last great stand. He felt that if they are going to preserve the character they should start now. Groen would not like to see a row of Florodora's down Main Street. Frost stated that she did not like what she sees. Burns stated that he drew a blank. Seigle stated that they are trying to preserve something that they are losing. Frost felt that the whole design could be simplified. It is too busy. Groen stated that he does not like to be put in the position of feeling that he has to design the project for the applicant. He felt that it was not their function. As far as guidance, input, and ideas, those could only be personal subjective things. Seigle stated that he would like to see a solution where the buildings were not connected. Michael told Anderson that until the massing is dealt with, they could not deal with the details. Seigle stated that this project did not make it. Nick Lebby, the owner of La Cocina, was present to speak to the commmittee on what he proposed to do. He is thinking of putting on an addition on the back of the restaurant. This would be used for storage space and additional restaurant room. The front of the building would remain the same. Michael asked how many square feet that they were planning on adding. Lebby stated that it would be around 1200 feet. Michael made a motion to approve the expansion. End seconded. Groen asked about the trash storage. Lebby stated that it would be in the same place. Seigle stated that he would be willing to give Lebby preliminary approval. BURNS' PROJECT: COMMITTEE COMMENTS: Lebby stated that the materials would be the same. Michael stated that he would like to rephrase the motion. Michael made a motion to grant a preliminary approval of the proposed expansio~ of La Cocina. End seconded. Groen suggested that they further the motion preliminary approval be granted conditional until complete drawings could be presented to the committee. Michael made a motion that preliminary apprQvat~b~ granted conditional until complete drawings could be presented~to ~he .... committee. End seconded. All in favor. The a~enclmen~ was approved.. Michael made a motion to approve the proposed expansion of La Cocina. End seconded. All in favor. The proposed expansion was approved depended on the amendment. Burns stated that he had placed the plans with the building department on the 16th. He stated that it was approved 2 years ago but the plans were revised. Burns said that there presently there is a shed on the back of the house. What he would like to do is to is to tear it down and rebuild it. It would still be the same width. Also, he would like to extend the roof to cover the porch. The reason for this is that the water runs off the roof onto the porch, and then runs into the house. Michael made a motion to approve the additions. Frost seconded. All in favor. Seigle stated that Andre's did something that they were not suppose to do. The awnings are not what the committee approved. Reents stated that he would get ahold of Andre Ulrych and have him come in front of the committee to state why he did what he did. Groen made a motion to adjourn. Pam Realmuto,~t~ City Clerk Michael seconded. Ail in favor.