HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19780124RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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A regular meeting of the Aspen Historical Preservation Committee was held
on January 24, 1978 at 1:00 P.M. in the Council Chambers of City Hall. Those
members present were Norm Burns, Jerry Michael, Terry End, Mona Frost,
Jon Siegle, Gaard Moses, Florence Glidden. Also present is Joe Wells of
the Planning Office.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the January 10th meeting were
addressed by the members. Ms. Glidden moved to
approve the minutes as presented, seconded by
Ms. End. All in favor, motion carried.
TOM THUMB
Preliminary Review
Joe Wells, present today in the place of regular
staff member John Stanford requested that an item
be added to the agenda if time permits, that being
a conceptual review of an application for an exterior
addition to the Hutch building. Ms. Frost so moved,
seconded by Ms. Glidden. All in favor, motion carried.
The firm of Copeland, Hagman, Finholm and Yaw is
representing the owners of the Tom Thumb building in
their application for extensive remodeling of the
buildings at the corner of Hyman and Mill all the way
to the alley of Sabatini Sports.
Yaw once again reviewed the drawings and application
with the members explaining the changes that have
been made since the conceptual review. The court
area was depressed about 2' at the time of the first
review. Now the street level comes through into
the court area with a drop of about 3½' around the
rear commercial spaces. The building on the corner
of Hyman and Mill has been changed in the angle where
it meets the corner. The uses of the different
floors has also been changed. The two lower levels
will be commercial space with the third level in
the proposed new building for employee housing.
The old Tom Thumb building will be only two levels.
A ramp for handicapped will be provided as required
by Code. Awnings are proposed going around the full
length of both buildings. Probably olive green in
color, but whether it will have writing on it or not
has not been decided. The newly proposed building
has been changed somewhat. In one aspect, the front
elevation is lower, the entrance doorway is not
recessed so far as before which gave it a tunnel
effect. The windows in the old building have been
changed to make them more symetrical. The new
building will have an area cut back; it will start
out at street level at the alley way, then cut back
inwards on the Mill Street side.
Bill Lukes discussed the question of signs with the
members requesting some input from them. The
applicant would prefer a directory type sign on the
north side of the Tom Thumb building, or possibly
on the south side of the old building. Probably
lettering on the glass. The awning, he stated, would
not be used for signage. Signs will be covered in
the lease document and stipulations toward regulating
this will be stated. Yaw stated that the model is
being finished at this time, and will be done prior
to the Public Hearing and will be placed in the
ASPEN HISTORICAL PPESERVATION COmmITTEE January 24, 1978
HUTCH
Preliminary review
Planning Office for the members to review prior
to that time if they so wish.
The two existing buildings will be totally commercial
space, and the new building will have two lower
floors of commercial space with the third floor for
Employee Housing. The new building will have two
large spaces of a total of 2,000 sq. ft. commercial
space. Burns doesn't have a problem with the awning
on the existing buildings, but the awning on the new
building doesn't cover anything, just comes out over
the sidewalk. Yaw, however, feels it is a definite
architectual statement and wouldn't favor seeing it
removed. It helps break up that vertical mass.
Burns suggested having the members do a preliminary
scoring (GMP) on this project so the applicant can
get an idea of where they stand before the public
hearing on February 14th.
Jon Siegle stated to the members that because his
firm will be representing one of the interested
parties in this project that possibly he should
withhold his scoring. However, both Burns and Yaw
felt that because this is just a preliminary vote,
not the official record, they would want his input.
Michael went over his scoring: his problem is with
the awning on the new building; with the skylight
windows on the new building and feels they are
incongruous with the exterior of the building and
gave the project a total of 10.5
Ms. End reviewed each category and gave the project
a total score of 14
Ms. Frost reviewed her scores, and stated that she
didn't like the awning on the new building on the
Mill street side; she doesn't like the four little
windows on Mill Street (skylight windows) and
doesn't like the second story windows in the court
area. She gave the project a total of 13.25
Ms. Glidden reviewed each category and gave the
project a total score of 14.
Jon Siegle stated that he felt the project was too
big for~the site; the Mill street elevation is a
problem; he doesn't like the skylight windows on
the new building and gave the project a 10.5.
Moses suggested a change in the set back of the
vertical area of the main floor of the new building;
would recommend matching the vertical mass on the
new building to the old building inset; feels it
makes a good contemporary statement and gave the
project a 14
Burns stated the massing on the Mill street side
of the old building line bothers him; doesn't
like the awning on the new building, and gave the
project a total score of 12.3
The average score for this project upon preliminary
review is 12.6.
Wells presented to the members sketches of the pro-
posed addition to the rear exterior area of the Hutch
adjacent to the Bank of Aspen. They are within the
FAR. He felt that the elevation is insensitive to
the surrounding buildings. The members reviewed the
plans and discussed the project. It was the general
consensus that the plans were inadequate and the
members could not really tell exactly what was
happening with this project. They suggested that
it be tabled until better, more explicit plans can
be submitted.
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Ms. End moved to
better plans are
with all members
table this application until
submitted. Seconded by Ms. ~Frost
in favor, motion carried.
Moses moved to adjourn at 2:30, seconded by
Ms. Frost. Ail in favor, meeting adjourned.
Ellen Atkins, Deputy City Clerk