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A regular meeting of the Aspen Historical Preservation Committee was held
on Januarv 10, 197~at 1:00 PM in the Council Chambers of City Hall. Those
members p~esent were Norm Burns, Mona Frost, Jerry Michael, Terry End,
Jon Seigle, Gaard Moses, Sally Parrish, Florence Glidden, and Lary Groen.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
Tom Thumb
The minutes of the November 29th meeting were
addressed by the members. This committee did
not meet during the month of December. Michaels
moved to approve the minutes as presented, seconded
by Moses.
There was no old business discussed at this time.
This is a preliminary application by the Tom
Thumb building for extensive exterior remodeling,
represented at this meeting by architect Larry Yaw.
The building at the corner of Hyman and Mill, and
the building housing Magnifico and the space which
used to house the Peppermit Tree candy store will
be effected by this remodel plan. Yaw presented
drawings of the Hyman street view, the Mill street
view, and the interior court areas to the members
of the committee. The plan would eliminate the two
business spaces previously mentioned, and create
open court area space similar to the finger mall
by Country Flower. A pedestrian would not be able
to walk from the Hsrman street mall through to the
alley by Sabatini Sports, but would be able to
traverse through to Mill Street. The space housing
the liquor store would be eliminated, creating an
open area between the main Tom Thumb building, housing
the U.S. Customs and creating a seperate building.
Yaw stated that the developers and owners felt that
the space where the candy and liquor stores are
are in poor condition, and have no historical
significance. The total estimated footage involved
is 5300 ft.: adding 3500 sq. ft. of commercial
space and 1800 sq. ft. of employee housing. The
FAR is 1.8:1. A secondary arcade will be created
relating to the commercial space in the new building.
A brick masonary work style will be used similar to
the Wheeler Opera House,-with similar colored brick.
Very shallow bay windows will be used. The glass
fesestrations are on the south court side. The
elevations in this building go from the four story
level of the Wheeler Opera building, the three story
level of the Aspen Supply buidling to the two story
level of the main Tom Thumb Building. The seperate
building on the Mill Street side will have a stairway
and window. The buildings slope downward in levels
to the level of the Hyman Street Mall. Yaw feels
it blends in very well, and from the pedestrian
level on the mall, the second building cannot be
seen. The materials are glass and brick, with painte(
wood trim on the glass of a contrasting color.
There will be a covered stairway going to the second
level of the building. The third story of the
building will be commercial space, and the second
floor will be employee housing. Probably about four
units are planned, and that area is already plumbed
for this type of use. A cost consideration is the
reason for putting the housing on the second level,
Historical Preservation Committee January 10, 1978 Regular meeting
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since it is already plumbed. The building
closest to the Aspen Supply will be set back about
thirty feet from the main building. The chimminey
on the north end of the building was discussed.
Ms. Frost asked if a third level is built, will an
elevator be required. Not necessarily, answered
Yaw, depending on the uses in the building and its
occupancy. There is a second egress in the building
that is required by fire code. Michaels stated
that he has a problem with the stairway on the
Mill street side and doesn't feel it relates well.
Burns, acting as chairman decided it would probably
be best to poll each member for their comments:
Moses: Asked about signage, and related the
problems this committee has about outside signs.
Yaw reported that he will have a plan for this by
the Public Hearing. Moses is also bothered by the
brick wall on the Mill Street side, but overall
he did like the concept. Seigle: Doesn't feel
that the Mill street drawing gives an accurate sense
of the massing, and would like to see a model. He
too has a problem with the wall on Mill Street.
Ms. End: Feels that the Mill Street building is too
massive compared with the Sabatini Sports building.
The window on the second floor over the stairway
there also creates a problem and doesn't relate.
Michaels: Feels that the Hyman Street side is
very nice. The Mill Street side creates a problem
and he feels the second building is very lonely
in appearance. Ms. Frost: Agrees with Michaels and
asked if a set back could be incorporated into the
building to break up the mass. The second story
window could cause weather problems. Snow removal
on the interior courts was discussed, and Yaw stated
it will probably be shoveled out. Burns: Likes
the removal of the balconies around the building.
The second story building on Mill - two windows
should be moved to the left. He suggested possibly
removing the space between the second story window
and stairway on Mill Street. He asked if the bay
windows would project out over the property line.
Ms. Glidden: Would like to see a model to see how
the Mill Street elevations look. Ms. Parrish:
Definitely doesn't like the window on the second
floor Mill Street side. Groen: The Mill Street
building is his main concern. The angles and
retangles dont set, especially the window. The
building on the corner of Hyman and Mill also causes
a problem with him in the angle of that corner.
He also suggested using some other exterior material
such as a mellow glazed tile.
Yaw stated that there has been some discussion about
putting in a restaurant in that building, but it would
be a cost consideration since the weight level does
not meet code requirements. Stanford stated that
he felt the building was compatible with the surr-
ounding area, and he has no problem with the stated
materials, as long as mirrored glass is not used.
He does not have a problem with the skylight. The
horizontal windows on the court side do not pose
a problem either. Nor does he have a problem with
the window on the Mill Street side.
A Public Hearing has been scheduled for February 14,
1978 on this project.
Stanford reviewed the letter included in the Agenda
Packet requesting $91,800 in grant funds for the
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Wheeler Opera Building. The City has given its
support to this request. Ail the members were in
favor of this, and Lary Groen will sign this letter
on behalf of the HPC. Ms. End so moved, seconded
by Ms. Parrish. All in favor, motion carried.
Stanford stated we should hear something by
mid-February.
Croen suggested possibly approaching John Gilmore
because they have been involed in applying for
funds to renovate the Hotel Jerome, also built by
Jerome B. Wheeler. Mabye further support could be
solicited in this manner.
Groen stated that he had seen the Trolley come
into town and asked Moses what plans there were
for storing it. Moses stated that it would be
stored at the Airport in a hanger until it can
be "cherried up" and the possibly used at the
Rubey Park Bus Stop just to get people used to
seeing it around.
This was discussed briefly by the members.
The meeting adjourned at 3:00.
Ellen L. Atkins, Deputy City Clerk