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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19770913RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Special Meeting Historic Preservation Committee September 13~ 1977 The Aspen Historic Preservation Committee held a special meeting on September 13, 1977, at 1:00 PM in City Council Chambers. Members present were Larry Groen, Norm Burns, Bob Marsh, Florence Glidden and Mona Frost. Present from the Planning Office was John Stanford. Approval of Minutes The first item on the agenda was the approval of the minutes. Glidden moved to approve the minutes of August 23, 1977 seconded by Burns. All in favor; minutes approved. Bell Mountain Sports Larry Groen began discussing the Bell Mountain Sports preapplication review. The letter in the packet stated that City Council granted exemption. This is not correct. Bell Mountain Sports has to go back to Council because the entire Council was not present. Bob Sterling, architect for the project, explained the drawings which he presented. He had designed Bell Mountain Sports to be a similar Victorian structure to the Crystal Palace so that the block would be more cohesive. It would be more aesthetically balanced. Stanford had said that the block should be broken up by different elevations. The first half of the block has three different facades. This building would make four. He described in detail the physical changes which he proposed. Groen said that the Crystal Palace is designated historic. If Bell Mountain Sports copied the Crystal Palace then it would appear that the entire block was designated historic and it is not. Groen said he would like to see a more contemporary treatment. John Stanford entered the meeting at this point. Burns said that he would like to see a more contemporary treatment of the building since it can't be designated historic. By making the entire block Victorian it would create a massive effect. Mona Frost entered the room. Groen suggested tabling this application until City Council votes on it. Burns moved to table action on the Bell Mountain Sports preapplication and continue it on September 27, 1977. Glidden seconded the motion. All in favor; motion passed. Rubey Park Bus Shelter Harold Stalf, assistant to the city manager, presented the drawings for the bus shelter to be enclosed in Rubey Park. Presently there is a roof structure. Committee members were asked to comment. Marsh wondered why we always had to have this kitchy-koo stuff. The building should have nice clean lines. Stalf said that it was pretty plain. Marsh objected to the roof. Stalf stated that there were several constraints under which they were labouring: The building code requires a certain type of doors, windows and insulation. There is $600 of glazed thermal window glass in the bus barn. There is no sense to waste money on new windows. Marsh wondered why the City would stop wasting money now. Stalf said that there is as much glass available as is allowed to be used im the building. He was open to suggestions. The City only wants a functional and simple building. Groen wondered why the building should be enclosed. It would be nice to have the building open in the summer. Burns wondered if an office building was allowed in the park zone. Stanford said the park was zoned to have transportation or drainage overlaid. The 1973 land use plan gave transportation the use of a facility. The Planning Office recommends the proposal on its architectural merits. Melinda Severence, from the transportation department, said that the Committee did not want it to look like a garage. The architect did what she could do under the present roof structure which is similar to a garage. Frost wanted the bus stop left the way it presently is if there has to be a bus stop in Rubey Park. Groen said there is no longer a bus stop, Special Meeting Historic Preservation Comittee September 13~ 1977 it has become a building. Stalf said we have already decided to put a building there, all the City wants to know is what sort of building you want. Stanford said that City Council made a policy decision to enclose Rubey Park. HPC cannot deal with qhestions which do not deal with HPC. Burns suggested denying the request and letting Council override the decision. Stalf stated that nPC is supposed to review architecture and that was his reason for being at HPC. Marsh moved to turn down the application for this building. The motion died for a lack of a second. Groen said that the existing structure on Rubey Park is being turned into an office building at the request of Council. Groen wondered what sort of siding would be on the building. Stalf said it would be sealed or stained darker. It might be nice to match the restrooms. Groen said it would look like a pannebode. Stalf said he would like to copy the old railroad center in Basalt or the one at the Airport Business Center. This is only an information center not an office. Groen said that this was frustrating. Nothing will be aesthetically right with the present roof. It would be okay to make the building corney and cute with shutters, iron benches, perhaps a dorner in the roof. If it is going to be Disneyland, the City ought to go the whole way, The present plan does not look at all like adjacent buildings. More Victorian details should be added. Stalf said with the present roof only so much can be done. Groen suggested schmaltzing it up. Severance wondered what color it should be. Groen said that should be evaluated in relation to surrounding buildings. Stalf wondered if it should have an iron fence around it. Groen said if the building is done right, it might, Otherwise it would just be enclosing a monstrosity. Frost felt that only a bus stop was needed not a transportation center. Groen would not accept the proposal as presented. Burns hated to see it become Victorian. It should be more subtle, Frost hated to see it enclosed at all. If there has to be a building then it could look more like a railroad station. Marsh did not like the roof, He did not like it in any way. Stanford said that it suffers from having to be made a building. It is really ugly. An imaginative person could come up with a good design given the constraints, Groen said he thought Council wanted something nice. It is clear that the building has to be approved. If you come up with a better plan, HPC can call a special meeting. Glidden moved to table action on the Rubey Park bus shelter pending further action on the plan until next Tuesday. Frost seconded the motion~ All in favor; motion passed. Burns moved to adjourn the meeting. Glidden seconded the motion. Ail in favor; the meeting adjourned at 2:15 PM. Elisabeth Sherrill, Deputy City Clerk