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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19770809RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS A regular meeting of the Historical Preservation Committee was held at 1:00 in the Council Chambers of City Hall on August 9, 1977. Those members present were Lary Groen, Norm Burns, Mona Frost, Florence Glidden, Jerry Michaels, Terry End, Gaard Moses, and Sally Parrish. Also present is John Stanford of the Planning Office. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FITZGERALD REALESTATE ASPEN BAR AND GRILL The roll was called and the minutes of the last meeting were addressed. Ms. Glidden moved to approve as presented, seconded by Moses. Ms. Glidden moved to add Fitzgerald Realestate to the agenda. This was seconded by Ms. Frost. All in favor. This is an application by Fitzgerald Realestate whose offices are in the first floor of the Cooper Building to enclose the planter that borders their office. They have tried unsuccessfully in the past to maintain this planter in its present open state, but it seems to end up asa catchall for beer cans, and trash. The plants have not done well either. They would like to enclose this planter so that greenery would grow year around. The window would have glass sliding doors inside so that they could be opened or closed for watering purposes. The heat from the inside would heat that window area. The exterior glass will be double glazed and there will be no additional floor area added. The planter is about three feet off the floor. Stanford stated that the Planning Office reco- mmends approval of this application but that the mullions should be vertical and done in dark colors. The advertising area will not be increased and the logo of the realestate firm will not appear through the glass. There will be some lighting, but nothing major. This doesn't encompass any open space requirements. The applicant presented the photographs of the existing planter and drawings of the proposed plans. The members reviewed these at length. No structural changes will take place, the wall will remain the same size. The window frames were discussed and whether they should be of metal or wood. The dimensions of the window would remain the same. The two outside corners were discussed, and several of the members felt they should be reinforced. Ms. Fros~ moved to approve this application, s~conded by Ms. Glidden. Burns amended the motion to include several conditions: that the window contain 13 vertical sections of galss as it does now and as shown on the plans, the exterior two corner mullions be stronger than the rest and support the added weight of the window, and that no major lighting be added. This' amended motion was voted on With all members in favor. The main motion was voted on with all in, favor, .motion ~carried. Moses moved to add Aspen Bar and Grill to the agenda. This is an application by the owners of the Aspen Bar and Grill to add a deck on the outside of their BOAT TOW Lift L ARTHURS RESTAURANT GROWTH MANAGEMENT restaurant. They appeared before City Council last evening to receive relief from the "adm- inistrative delay" which prevents any new applications. The extension would be to the west facade of the building of about 14x12 ft. and about 36" off the ground. The pylons and beams would be 4x6. The wood railing around that area could be done in something like a wooden latice so that it wouldn't look so tacked on. This was one of the main concerns of the members, that this addition be done tastefully. That exterior rear area is highly visable and whatever addition is made should look as contigious with the rest of the building as possible. Groen stated that he did not feel the drawings presented by the ~plicants were sufficient for this committee to adequately review this project. In the future, he requested that photographs of the existing conditions of the area be submitted, and he reviewed the criteria for applications that include front and side elevations. There are no future plans by the applicant to enclose this area, but the committee feels that this would evolve duirng the colder months. The Subject of the reflective mullions in the greenhouse that extends from the second floor of that building were discussed. If this addition is made, something will have to be done to tone those mullions down. With this extension, the greenhouse included, there would be a total of a 24' extension. The side elevation drawings are necessary to determine this addition in relation to the existing building. The in- adequacy of the drawings does not permit the committee to really assess the additions effects on the remainder of the building. Burns moved to table action on this application until adequate plans can be presented. This was seconded by Ms. Frost. All in favor, motion carried. A special meeting can be called if necessary. Letters and memos have been sent to the City Managers Office in reference to the covering of the Boat Tow at Lift 1, but nothing has been done. The bus shelter behind the courthouse will be used to cover the boat tow. Burns stated that they have taken down their conglomeration of signs. However, several other businesses in sign code violation still have not been dealt with. The committee feels that there is no enforcement of these regulations. Groen suggested that an overall look by this Committee at some business such as North Beach Leather, Country Flower and the finger mall be done. The sign code and possible changes were discussed. Signs posted inside businesses were discussed such as For Sale signs and "Sale" signs. A special meeting was suggested. Displaying of merchandise outside a business was also discussed. Stanford reviewed the scoring done by the members at their study session. He suggested after reviewing staff and committee scores that a minimum point of 2 points per category be set for at leas~ 5 categories, plus three for 1 cat- egory for a total of 13 points, ~,~o~,~,~,~o.,~w~ RECORD OF PROC: EEDI N GS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE Regular Meeting August 9, 1977 C.M. CLARK HISTORIC DESIGNATION COMMITTEE COMMENTS ELECTION OF OFFICERS This is a request for historic designation of the house on Block 28, Lots R & S in the west end of town. The owner of this property received subdivision exemption approval by City Council with a condition of their seeking Historic Designation of the existing Victorian. The house has been on that location since 1881. The members were unclear as to why a condition such as this would be set by Council, and wished to find out more about what was going on before they approved this request. Ms. Glidden moved to table this request, seconded by Burns. All in favor, motion carried. Groen stated that he had discussed several areas of concern with Mayor Standley. One of these was the windows in the Wheeler Opera House facing Mill Street. They had been painted from the inside and HPC had requested they be ~~ Someone had just gone in and scraped it off with a razor blade, and it does not appear at all attractive from the outside. Groen discussed with Mayor Standley the concern he has over colors such as Explore Books on Main Street. They have painted brillant "sun" colors on the front facade of that building. Groen had written to Ms. Thallberg about it but got no cooperation. Mayor Standley suggested possibly a recommendation to the City Council that something needs to be done to review these color schemes on this type of project. If each of the Victorians on Main Street did this it would take on an "amusement park" look. The by-laws state that officers are to be elected in August, but many of the members' terms are up next month, and it was decided to delay this election until new membership could be established. August 23rd will be the next regular meeting. The meeting adjourned at 2:45. Ellen Atkins, Deputy City Clerk