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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19770614RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS A regular meeting of the Historical Preservation Committee was held at 1:00 on June 14, 1977 in the Council ~hambers of City Hall. Those members present were Lary Groen, Norm Burns, Mona Frost, Terry End, Florence, Glidden and Gaard Moses. Also present is John Stanford of the Planning Office APPROVAL OF MINUTES OLD BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS OLD BUSINESS Paragon The minutes of the May 24th meeting were reviewed by the members. Burns moved to approve the minutes as submitted. This was seconded by Ms. Glidden, all in favor, motion carried. There is nothing at this time, but may be addressed later inthe meeting. Stanford discussed with the members the Growth Management Plan, now in development stages through the Planning Office. As part of the procedure for the GMP, it is being considered to have Historic Review as part of the regular process. This would, in essence, be the first step in developing architectural review by the HPC. Stanford reviewed with the members the concept of the GMP and its goals in limiting growth. Something more definite will hopefully be presented by Stanford at the next meeting. He explained that C-1 and CC zoned areas will be directly effected by the GMP, that the residential areas have been eliminated from the restrictions of the GMP, and that he was not sure whether Main Street area would be controled by the GMP. Groen stated that an item on the Paragon has been added to the Agenda. The Paragon originally appeared before this Committee on July 27, 1976 with an application to change their windows in the front facade of that building. The plans submitted were approved by the HPC. They have since that time done one of the windows, and it has been opened all the way to the ground level, which it was explicity stated would not be done. Groen once again reviewed this situation with the members. A Building Permit is valid for 120 days, in which time over 10% of the work must be completed every 60 days. This restriction has not been adhered to by the Paragon, and technically their Building Permit, obtained after the July 27th hearing, has expired. Clayton Meyring, Building Inspector entered the meeting. The HPC is requesting some enforcement of this violation, possibly by having the Building Permit withdrawn. Meyring stated that the permit has expired, therefore it is not necessary to have him pull it. The first window was done in oak and left its natural color. It is very apparent in~[the appearance of the building. The members feel it should be painted to conform with the rest of the facade. Groen further discussed the Paragon, stating that Ted Koutsabous had expressed a desire to paint that building, as he felt it was too dark a color for the shady side of the street. The building is brick. This was discussed, and Stanford stated that the HPC cannot dictate what color a building is painted, but they can request that the natural surface of the facade be maintained. In regard to enforcement of this, and support from Council, Stanford suggested contacting the Councilmembers on an informal basis to sound out their feelings on this. Possibly, when Koutsabous comes before the HPC for his second building permit and plans the committee could discuss this problem with him. Historical Preservation Committee Regular Meeting June 14, 1977 ARTHURS RESTAURANT COMMITTEE COMMENTS A representative of Arthur's Restaurant had been requested to appear at this meeting, but noone has shown up. Stanford specifically requested David Moss to discuss the problems of Arthurs with this group. Groen reviewed past involvement with Arthurs, and their application to change the windows to make them openable. Then they decided to put in a door on the east side of the building, which resulted in a large flowering crabapple tree being cut down. A stop work order was issued by Clayton Meyring, which they ignored. The problem of the addition of the door, Groen feels, could develop into an addition to the building itself. The window on that side opens out, and if someone walks out while the window is open, some harm could result. He does not feel this is in "good taste". Meyring stated that in most instances when a stop work order is violated the only recourse is to press legal charges. However, in this situation he does not feel that he has documentation that would hold up in court. The stop work order was not poster, but delivered informally and verbally. However, if they proceede with the door and put a stoop over it, this will be enroaching into the required side yard, which would be a more serious violation, and Meyring feels he would have more luck pursuing legal action on this infraction. Groen discussed their sign in front of the restaurant, which has been added on to. It is not the original size, and is in violation of the sign code. The problems the HPC has with the restaurant are: 1. Violation of Tree Cutting 2. Sign Code violation 3. Change in doors Stanford will write a letter to the owner of the restaurant stating these concerns of the HPC. The problem of the change in windows were approved by Clayton and John as not being a major change. A copy of this letter will also be sent to the architect on that project, Weldon Anderson. Progress of the Wheeler Opera House task force was discussed by Stanford. They have gotten a report from a consultant on the WOH, who recommended almost gutting the entire second and third floors on the inside. The task force was not too excited by this, feeling that if such drastic changes were made, a new building might as well be built. A compromise of this was reached, and Stanford stated that various points in the consultants report are being incorporated into a viable plan. A Master Thesis by a person by the name of Shaw was done on the history of the WOH, giving some of their past uses for the building, which included boxing matches, wrestling, and horse racing as well as regular theatre productions. Stanford discussed some possibles, such as mezzaine area with gift shops, information booth by the Chamber of Commerce. The lease for the theatre expires in 1981, and hopefully something will be com- pleted by that time. Various activities that could take place in that building were discussed by the members. Stanford stated that it will also be used, besides for arts productions, as a community meeting facility. The theatre will seat about 435 persons. The cafateria in the basement was discussed, and Stanford stated that the task force on the Hospital does not want to consider the eating facilities at the hospital at this time, and the MAA does not feel it would meet their needs for feeding the music students. The MAA is working on main- taining the cafateria in the basement for its students, ..^=.o.=~...,..].==o.,=..v;. RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Historical Preservation Committee Regular Meeting June 14, 1977 Boat Tow Rubey Park Bus Stop La Tortue but has not resolved the problem of its use during the winter months. The idea of a seperate agency developed specifically for maintaining and running the WOH has been discussed by the task force, such as a City run agency. The subject of loss of revenue was discussed. The bulletin board on the outside of that building was discussed. Now that the Colorado Mountain College office is gone, there is no one to really maintain that bulletin board. Nor is there any. type of actual "manager". The Holy Cross building is going to be used as a visual arts center with an emphsis on outdoor exibits. Stanford explained that the task force had limited the use of that building to visual arts, not including the original idea of arts and crafts and teen activities. It was felt that there is not a suitable place in Aspen at this time for visual arts, and that that building would serve that purpose ideally. Groen asked about the status of the boat tow shelter. Nothing has been done about this by the City. He asked if it would be possible to get a group of concerned citizens or the Historical Society to follow through on this. The City just doesn't have the manpower. Moses stated that the Trolley will be placed by the Bus stop, and is in transit at this time. He asked if anyone knew about the trolley system that existed in Aspen, and was referred to the State Historical Society office. Groen stated that Arthur Hyde had contacted him about the application from La Tortue. H~e stated that he had at no time given Mrs. Hicks permission to display wares outside her building, and was concerned about the appearance. He gets no additional revenue from this activity. The Chuck Wagon is for sale at this time,and Hyde was reluctant to have it moved, feeling that the owner had a better chance of selling it in its present location. Whether he would rent it space whenever it was sold was not resolved. Hyde did express a desire to improve the visual appearance of that area, and requested a letter from the HPC expressing its concerns. Groen did not feel this would be good policy, and informally gave Hyde the recommendations made by this committee. Burns moved to adjourn, seconded by Ms. Glidden. The meeting adjourned at 2:10. Ellen Atkins, Deputy City Clerk